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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 11:59am On Mar 26, 2019 |
Ibime: If its to play parapo bus parking defending, any defender can do that till age 70 sef. Take these defenders to play high line and let us see how that will work out When DiMatteo was bus parking to the CL final even Luiz looked okay. Barzagli was expelled by Wolfsburg, Benatia was benched in central defence by 5ft9 Kimmich he got back to parapo defence in Juventus and started looking decent again. At Liverpool Benitez will just pick any random defender from Agger to Caragher to Skrtel, to Hyypia to Finnan to Djimi Traore to Phillip Degen and will make CL final because he will play them in a low block defending, all these players will get away from community defence and turn to duds Canavaro won the WPOTY and world cup in parapo defence, 3months later he looked worse than Sodje when in Madrid defence that didn't do community defence Kompany was practically retired and left to play advisory role in City the moment Guardiola arrived and deployed a very high line, Whenever he's healthy and played he is barely mobile and resorts to reckless tackles to cover himself. This same Kompany move him to Juventus or Atletico today and he will play another 6yrs at top level. How old was Terry when he played under AVB and was totally torn to shreds in the high line? Vidic one of the great defenders in modern times, how much meaningful football did he play at 34 or even 32. He is currently 37 and sounds like he is been gone for close to half a decade 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 12:11pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
afrodoc2: Interception is highly dependent on your teammates covering space as part of a system. You cannot intercept, unless you know where your opponent is going to pass the ball...and that knowledge comes from an understanding of your own team shape, and how that would influence your opponents decision Tackling is a function of individuality. It's a skill based duel, you versus the other guy...you're pitting your ability to win the ball against your opponents ability to evade you. To me tackling is a better indicator of the individual ability of a defender...not any nonsense interception. Even in your videos sef, the only time baresi was stepping up to intercept was when he had 4 or 5 defenders behind him |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:27pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: OK 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 12:28pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 12:33pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: OK. 6 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:37pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Go and watch this world cup final clip that Afrodoc posted and see how it was dominated by interceptions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boPQNpPvJq0 There were like over 10 interceptions, maybe 5 blocks and probably 2-3 tackles A tackle is a desperate last minute attempt you make in many cases you can avoid those tackles as they are very risky That is a good defender not one depending on tackles like Gana Gueye 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:39pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
afrodoc2: I think I saw way more interceptions, blocks and just a few 2-3 tackles in that clip |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 12:47pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 12:52pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: Tried to count. But i am not sure it is even that relevant to my original point, which was to introduce defensive excellence to indomie generation. There is a time and place for tackling in the game, so i am not as down on it as you are. Having said that, there is no doubt in my mind that interception is a superior skill set to tackling. If you don't read the game properly and anticipate well you won't be great at making interceptions. If you make an interception you stand a minor chance of committing a foul, and you also keep the ball and can initiate a counter. When you make a tackle you are at a higher risk of committing a foul, you may not keep the ball and therefore might not totally avert danger apart from not being able to initiate offence. If you watch the clip you can see Baresi initiating counter attacks with his interceptions, but his tackles mainly led to his team conceding corner kicks and throw ins etc. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TalabiAudu: 1:43pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: ![]() ![]() Pls now list defenders that are good to you? Imagine Caragher, Barzagli, Cannavaro, Terry, Kompany are useless according to you... Aparisports, twale sir 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 1:53pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter: OK 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:58pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter:if you preach this message from today till forever, it will never become the gospel of truth. Low block require some skill set to excel in it as well as a high line. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 1:58pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HanksAnuku: 2:02pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 2:02pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
This 'Ok' is now the new argument dodging strategy. Nobody will know when you are saying ok because you cant counter the other person's argument or when you just don't want to argue further. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:06pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 2:06pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:13pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
TalabiAudu: We saw all of them in a highline and they were useless while they were thriving in a community defence |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:14pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
Greatihex: Its way harder to play in a highline than in low block In a highline its just 2 central defenders covering almost 30yards of space while in low block almost 5-6 players are there helping out |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 2:30pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 2:32pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 2:40pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
eph12: Even Raumdeuter doesn't agree. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 2:49pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
Greatihex:ok |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 3:12pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
raumdeuter:i am not in the mood for debate now. Maybe in future. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 3:21pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
Greatihex: Why did u type dis long epistle when a simple OK would have sufficed... 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamrosheed: 4:02pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
TalabiAudu:Best player - Hazard Most improved - Ngolo Kante Signing - Kepa Best young player - CHO Most disappointing player - Rudiger Best match - Chelsea 2-0 man city Worst match - Tottenham 3 Chelsea 1 Best goal - Ngolo Kante Vs man city 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 4:26pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
iamrosheed:That Kepa though
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 5:16pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
thorrvik55:no. I am not joining the madness yet. Maybe, in the future. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Excallibur(m): 5:26pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
Greatihex:Ok |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 6:15pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 6:24pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
eph12: Lol ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 6:26pm On Mar 26, 2019 |
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