airmark:


Larride, i played as a striker and i liked to play in front of skillful midfielders and wingers who make it easier for me to open for through passes, crosses, after they have dribbled those shielding our opponents' defence.

Most strikers that know how to open up, will like to play in a team with Messi or Hazard or Sancho. Most of them have high number of chances created mainly because of their dribbling skills.

Just like you I Very much appreciate dribblers cus every football player can do the basic things like pass,control,head,cross but as basic as dribbling his only few footballers are gifted with such skills.

Godx:


We know the Universe had a beginning. Atheists/ Scientist need to explain who created it? There is no rational way you can convince me or anybody that the singularity was eternal and it then caused the big bang and now we have DNA and our complex respiratory system due to an explosion that happened for no reason. The best salesman in the world couldn't even sell that. Scientist are fixated on proving their is no higher being called God that they are ready to say anything even when it's completely senseless.

I mean take a look at your yourself or even your dog. Do people you really believe an explosion occurred for no reason and with no intelligent design and eventually you came out looking like this lol. That's a tough sell and nobody is buying it.

The universe has a certain amount of rules that makes believe in an intelligent design of a God.
I have always believed that science and religion can coincide to an extent. I believe God created everything and science is his tool set. And that’s why science can never disprove God’s existence.

gensteejay:

You have no idea what the big bang model is. I don't have to correct your blunders on it here when the internet is there to educate you.

Before commenting on issues you know little of, don't make wrong assumptions about it to suit your parochial ideas. Google it first.

You are lost. Good night

Melvyn11:

You are lost. Good night

You've still not quoted the text book or journal where you saw the tripe that the big bang model states life began from nothing.

Can you see any sense in your submission?

airmark:


Don't take us to 1800s, when there was no federation called Nigeria, operating using a constitution.

We are talking about things happening now, so we can't bring things that have stopped, almost 2000 yrs ago.

that does not change the fact that what determines the criminality of an action are the laws of the land (constitution).
It is a crime to drive a dirty car in Russia,but here in Nigeria many vehicles that are not roadworthy ply the roads.
Hope You Get The Point.

Melvyn11:

He never provides adequate sourse or links in this type of discussion. He will just tell you scientist will do it in the future and that's the end of it.

This cracked me up.
Hope he will do justice to his assertions

simonjassy:

that does not change the fact that what determines the criminality of an action are the laws of the land (constitution).
It is a crime to drive a dirty car in Russia,but here in Nigeria many vehicles that are not roadworthy ply the roads.
Hope You Get The Point.

We were actually addressing why tithe couldnt be faulted, the way killing twins would be. Refer to my earlier convo with Dayo, to understand the origin and my point.

simonjassy:

This cracked me up.
Hope he will do justice to his assertions

I gave you an answer to the question you asked as regards scientific sources.

However, if you want to learn of historical/philosophical sources, you will have to check books which I can recommend.

That's entirely up to you.

Melvyn11:


The universe has a certain amount of rules that makes believe in an intelligent design of a God.
I have always believed that science and religion can coincide to an extent. I believe God created everything and science is his tool set. And that’s why science can never disprove God’s existence.

You are right, I have read a lot about scientists especially the most genius ones Einstein, Newton, Archimedes...
Einstein in is ingenious recognised the limitations of human and science, and the presence of a supreme being (God) who laid out everything, same as Newton. Sometimes I laugh when people with unexceptional logical ability are trying to rationalize what gifted people had come to conclusion that it's beyond human compression. Each man to his own though.

ToyinDipo:

You are right, I have read a lot about scientists especially the most genius ones Einstein, Newton, Archimedes...
Einstein in is ingenious recognised the limitations of human and science, and the presence of a supreme being (God) who laid out everything, same as Newton. Sometimes I laugh when people with unexceptional logical ability are trying to rationalize what gifted people had come to conclusion that it's beyond human compression. Each man to his own though.

Can you state the Einstein's law of God or a supreme being that laid out "everything"? Or Newton's version, or Archimedes' version? And let's see their empirical proofs and mathematical basis.

When you can't separate personal beliefs from scientific knowledge, based on hard facts.

airmark:


We were actually addressing why tithe couldnt be faulted, the way killing twins would be. Refer to my earlier convo with Dayo, to understand the origin and my point.

You said it can't be faulted because it is not "criminal" that it is a religious practice.
I only joined the convo to explain to you that something being a religious activity does not exclude it from being or not being a crime.Butressing my point i.e criminality is determined by the "laws of the land" rather than religious activities, except in cases where the religion is the law (theocracy) ,by using the killing of twins as an example.I apologise if i have caused any misunderstanding.
Though,it is a religious practice,it was "criminalized"

gensteejay:

Can you state the Einstein's law of God or a supreme being that laid out "everything"? Or Newton's version, or Archimedes' version? And let's see their empirical proofs and mathematical basis.

When you can't separate personal beliefs from scientific knowledge, based on hard facts.

Assignment.. google it lol

ToyinDipo:


Assignment.. google it lol

popizaino:


Just like you I Very much appreciate dribblers cus every football player can do the basic things like pass,control,head,cross but as basic as dribbling his only few footballers are gifted with such skills.

Exactly. If you dribble an opponent in a vital area, you have given your team a crucial numerical advantage.

Pele, Maradona, Messi, C. Ronaldo, say no more.

simonjassy:

You said it can't be faulted because it is not "criminal" that it is a religious practice.
I only joined the convo to explain to you that something being a religious activity does not exclude it from being or not being a crime.Butressing my point i.e criminality is determined by the "laws of the land" rather than religious activities, except in cases where the religion is the law (theocracy) ,by using the killing of twins as an example.I apologise if i have caused any misunderstanding.
Though,it is a religious practice,it was "criminalized"

I didnt say this.

Some rituals in traditional religion, require human blood. I will be foolish to say they are not criminal.

What i said was that we could fault killing of twins, because it was criminal, unlike Tithing.

airmark:


Larride, i played as a striker and i liked to play in front of skillful midfielders and wingers who make it easier for me to open for through passes, crosses, after they have dribbled those shielding our opponents' defence.

I was the opposite when I played striker. I liked them to hit me straight away with long ball or channel ball, let me do the dribbling straight to goal. My favourite team mate was our right-back cos when he get the ball, it's straight ball down the channel.

Meanwhile we had one skillful Moroccan boy in midfield. Anytime he plays, they would just be enjoying themselves playing pam-pam passes in midfield wasting my time while I'm waiting for ball. I'd rather you give me a 50:50 ball every two minutes than try to give me a clean ball every 10 minutes

simonjassy:

Would you be kind enough to highlight who the deist and the atheist are?
or is it just your hunch?

gensteejay is obviously an agnostic

ibime is someone who believe in christ i guess but doesn't believe in certain doctrine ( he hates Pentecostal e.g them adeboye, t.b joshua, chris , oyedepo etc )

BlueRayDick issues is with some pastors

iamoyindamola is probably a muslim but doesnt believe in certain doctrine in islam too ( but favours islam in all his conversation )

digzz izzou airmark odizeey Greatihex ( this one is probably a pastor ) and co full blown christian who believe in tithes and will pay tithes till they die

bro dayo doesn't like modern day christian


the rest i didnt mention probably fall in any of the listed categories

Ibime:


I was the opposite when I played striker. I liked them to hit me straight away with long ball or channel ball, let me do the dribbling straight to goal. My favourite team mate was our right-back cos when he get the ball, it's straight ball down the channel.

Meanwhile we had one skillful Moroccan boy in midfield. Anytime he plays, they would just be enjoying themselves playing pam-pam passes in midfield wasting my time while I'm waiting for ball. I'd rather you give me a 50:50 ball every two minutes than try to give me a clean ball every 10 minutes

Morrocans like to showboat a lot in the midfield. I played with some of them when i was in Dubai. They were annoying with the ball. They actually told me Okocha was their best Nigerian player, because of his bag of tricks.

My style of play is like Martins', but i will say i could dribble more than him as i started as a right winger.

Before i leave nairaland, i will drop one gif of one of my goals.

airmark:


Morrocans like to showboat a lot in the midfield. I played with some of them when i was in Dubai. They were annoying with the ball. They actually told me Okocha was their best Nigerian player, because of his bag of tricks.

My style of play is like Martins', but i will say i could dribble more than him as i started as a right winger.

Before i leave nairaland, i will drop one gif of one of my goals.

.

We can't wait to see the Hazardsque Shaku shaku technique employed in scoring the goal

Singapore1:


gensteejay is obviously an agnostic

ibime is someone who believe in christ i guess but doesn't believe in certain doctrine ( he hates Pentecostal e.g them adeboye, t.b joshua, chris , oyedepo etc )

BlueRayDick issues is with some pastors

iamoyindamola is probably a muslim but doesnt believe in certain doctrine in islam too ( but favours islam in all his conversation )

digzz izzou airmark odizeey Greatihex ( this one is probably a pastor ) and co full blown christian who believe in tithes and will pay tithes till they die

bro dayo doesn't like modern day christian


the rest i didnt mention probably fall in any of the listed categories

Yes I have issues with some pastors, I don't like pastors using people's head because they know we take religion serious in this part of the world.

That was how a family friend whose adult daughter had mental health challenge wasted her time at TB Joshua's synagogue buying oil and water, sleeping in bare church floor with no improvement in the daughter's condition. A non-religionist advised her to at least give the psychiatric hospital a trial; she did and after weeks of treating the daughter as an out-patient, she was okay.

Today that aunty is in the US married with kids enjoying her life. Imagine if the mum had sheepishly continued to buy oil and Emmanuel water instead of seeking medical help....

So yes I have issues with some pastors.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind"- Albert Einstein 1954

In the 80's Prof Keith Moore, a renowned professor of embryology in Canada authored 3rd edition of a book "The Developing Human" (one of the best medical book written by a single author) using some facts he came across in the Qur'an. Complete embryological stage of human development was stepwise narrated and Dr Keith Moore attests to this. No human without a divine origin over 1400 years ago will have predicted correctly the form of embryo & three veils of foetus darkness without a microscope. Even the Prof had no knowledge at then that the embryo in the initial stage appears like a leech, not until he observed with a powerful microscope. Prof Moore upon reading & verifying the scriptures he said, "If I was asked these questions thirty years ago, I wouldn't have been able to answer half of them for lack of scientific information, hence the verse must truly have come from a divine origin". Dr Joe Leigh Simpson chairman of Obstetrics & Gynaecology in Baylor college Houston USA even attest to these scriptures and expressed that religion may guide science by past revelation to scientific approaches.

Another Prof, Tagatat Tejasen acclaimed a scientific fact. Sense of feeling and pain was thought to depend only on the brain, not until studies prove that there are pain receptors underneath the skin. IF the pain receptors are burned & destroyed you can't feel pain any more. That's why doctors use a pinprick to verify the degree of burns. However, the Qur'an already mentioned this 1400 years ago. The Professor of anatomy after spending a great amount of time on research on pain receptor couldn't believe this when shown the verse, he verified it & converted. There are many more of the modern scientific facts in past scriptures like that acknowledged by 18th 19th-century scientists.

You can't tell me many science theories collaborated in holy scriptures written around 7th-century that relates to 21st-century modern astronomy (earth egg-shaped, the orbit of sun & moon), embryology, physics (splitting of an atom), oceanology (physical barrier when two oceans meet), biology (all creation made out of water etc), botany (everything made in pairs, plants & animals), zoology (ants lifestyle) and so on are not from a divine origin.

Every Aboki with hin kettle abeg, believe what you believe with verifiable evidence.

Anyone know whether Westerhof was sacked, or he just ghosted the squad?

Ibime:


I was the opposite when I played striker. I liked them to hit me straight away with long ball or channel ball, let me do the dribbling straight to goal. My favourite team mate was our right-back cos when he get the ball, it's straight ball down the channel.

Meanwhile we had one skillful Moroccan boy in midfield. Anytime he plays, they would just be enjoying themselves playing pam-pam passes in midfield wasting my time while I'm waiting for ball. I'd rather you give me a 50:50 ball every two minutes than try to give me a clean ball every 10 minutes

This cracked me up

Singapore1:


gensteejay is obviously an agnostic

ibime is someone who believe in christ i guess but doesn't believe in certain doctrine ( he hates Pentecostal e.g them adeboye, t.b joshua, chris , oyedepo etc )

BlueRayDick issues is with some pastors

iamoyindamola is probably a muslim but doesnt believe in certain doctrine in islam too ( but favours islam in all his conversation )

digzz izzou airmark odizeey Greatihex ( this one is probably a pastor ) and co full blown christian who believe in tithes and will pay tithes till they die

bro dayo doesn't like modern day christian


the rest i didnt mention probably fall in any of the listed categories

I no be pastor anything. Tbh....I'm extremely far from being one. But I do believe in God and Jesus Christ as my personal lord and saviour which is my own personal kaya.

gensteejay:

Can you state the Einstein's law of God or a supreme being that laid out "everything"? Or Newton's version, or Archimedes' version? And let's see their empirical proofs and mathematical basis.

When you can't separate personal beliefs from scientific knowledge, based on hard facts.

I've had enough of your nonsense my guy. Provide empirical proofs/mathematical basis of your real god( your source) or fcxk off from this place with your confused rants.

gensteejay:

Yes, according to the hermetic philosophy, God is unknowable, meaning only It knows Itself.

In other words, the parts (humans, animals, plants, other things in existence) can't comprehend the Whole (the All).

I feel that particular philosophy is right about the concept of God.

The impostors people worship in religions as God are human-like entities. Anyone with a basic level of intelligence can spot their human-like attributes in holy books, except they're indoctrinated.

Fvck your feelings! Provide me with Empirical proofs/mathematical basis for your confused rants.

gensteejay:

Getting where? Religious people ignorantly assume everyone sees the concept of God like them.

The simple fact is, anything that exists must have a Source.

But all gods and goddesses of religions are not the Source. They're only aspects (parts) of the Source, just like everything else in existence is.

Religions are man-made tools for mind control and political control. The real Supreme God (Source) is unknowable, doesn't interfere with human affairs, and is starkly different from the advanced beings people worship as gods in ignorance in religions.

airmark:


Exactly. If you dribble an opponent in a vital area, you have given your team a crucial numerical advantage.

Pele, Maradona, Messi, C. Ronaldo, Hazard say no more.

Modified

Singapore1:


gensteejay is obviously an agnostic

ibime is someone who believe in christ i guess but doesn't believe in certain doctrine ( he hates Pentecostal e.g them adeboye, t.b joshua, chris , oyedepo etc )

BlueRayDick issues is with some pastors

iamoyindamola is probably a muslim but doesnt believe in certain doctrine in islam too ( but favours islam in all his conversation )

digzz izzou airmark odizeey Greatihex ( this one is probably a pastor ) and co full blown christian who believe in tithes and will pay tithes till they die

bro dayo doesn't like modern day christian


the rest i didnt mention probably fall in any of the listed categories

How did I favour Islam in my talk?
My point is there's no way one imam will use my head collecting money or telling to do something for the sake of Allah.
I believe in God at the same time I don't trust those imams and pastors they are human like me trying to survive 80% of them are scammers if not explain what pastors are doing in Forbes.
Is pastoring/imam an occupation?

airmark:


I didnt say this.

Some rituals in traditional religion, require human blood. I will be foolish to say they are not criminal.

What i said was that we could fault killing of twins, because it was criminal, unlike Tithing.

killing of twins was evil,but it was not "criminal" until they made a decree to include it as a crime.
Basically, i am saying if the government puts forth a decree banning people from paying or receiving tithes,then it becomes "criminal" to pay or receive tithes.
Someone hires a tax lawyer to find loopholes in the tax law that will make sure he pays the smallest tax possible.While the government frowns upon this,as it is unpatriotic.It is not "criminal" .

simonjassy:

I have seen chris angel do more than this.Btw, he is a magician.what is the difference when pastors do this and when magicians do the same.

Did anyone tell you spiritual manifestation is limited to pastors?

diggz:


No source!

And them dey call person fool, claiming elite.

Now. You not fit prove wetyn you believe.

Godx:

The big bang theory is another one of scientist must stupid theory. People actually believe in an empty space particles clashed together or combined and created space gravity and matter as we know it then those atoms slowly turned into dust and that slowly turned into life. The flaws are endless.

So how, in your own opinion did the earth as we know it,came into existence with its various life forms