raumdeuter:


You mean places where 15yr old can register and vote? Just by reading wikipedia without seeing either

Rio is English and on TV everyday vs Vidic that disappeared over 5yrs ago

Eh...
And skysports doesn't have teens voting?

Epl is next

raumdeuter:


How will this nolstagia work when comparing Vidi and Rio who played around the same time?

Vidic had weekness that where sometimes exploited by mostly quick players .
But according to you, he was superhuman

kendrick93:

Do you disagree with Maldini then?

There are situations you can use tackles e.g when another teammate has made an error and you have to cover ground to correct it

kendrick93:

Vidic had weekness that where sometimes exploited by mostly quick players .
But according to you, he was superhuman

Which footballer or defender didnt have weaknesses? Vidic was superhuman because despite his limitations he played at the level no EPL defender has ever done. He was the one covering up for Rio

kendrick93:

Eh...
And skysports doesn't have teens voting?

I don't depend on votes for anything, Since there is bias. I use what I see on the field and their impact on their team. Vidic held the entire Man Utd defence like no one has ever done before

Vidic will take the responsibility himself, because he is assured of his abilities, he won't just stay and be pointing claiming he is organizing

raumdeuter:


There are situations you can use tackles e.g when another teammate has made an error and you have to cover ground to correct it

Situations, not all the time...
Which is why comparing CB by the amount of tackles they make is wrong..
A great defender is proactive not reactive

kendrick93:

Vidic had weekness that where sometimes exploited by mostly quick players .
But according to you, he was superhuman

Just like Owen and Rooney....Ferdinard peaked early...
He had already played 10 seasons in the world toughest league at the very top, ....Vidic was in farmers league then...

All those 2010 upwards, ...Ferdinard legs were almost gone, just using brain to defend...

BlueRayDick:


If I were to be a medical doctor or health worker na "Young shall grow motors" night bus me sef go enter commot Kano at this critical moment.

I hate nonesense. How can I be endangering my life for people who don't want to be saved? Their governor and political class keep playing politics with the virus, the citizens will not stay indoors but rather pray in hundreds in mosques everyday and somebody expects the doctors to be the heroes. It won't happen.

Prior to recording their index case Ganduje was smiling all about posing for the Camera in the isolation centre claiming they are more than prepared. Now less than 2 weeks of recording their index case they are already losing the battle and asking federal government for 15 billion.

In fact if I be doctor for federal government hospital in Abuja and other states and I was transferred to Kano sef at this time I will resign and wait till after pandemic and travel out of the country. Those people's refusal to ditch their age-long cultural and religious practices will endanger the lives of health workers

That Kano and Kaduna axis the problem brewing there ehn. Anyway this is Nigeria we no too value human life like that.

You will hear stuff like only 200 people died not 300. And nobody wants to find out what killed them.

If I were a medical personnel I go japa from that axis faster than you can say Gandollars

Expert17:
De gea and I can also put Courtois there...
Forget abt David luiz.
I like Ramos personally, but his defending is not that solid...

If Ramos has won with Navas Casillas with him leading the defence, So how is DeGeas failure on Ramos. Last CL without Ramos, Madrid conceded 3 at home to Ajax

kendrick93:
Situations, not all the time...
Which is why comparing CB by the amount of tackles they make is wrong..
A great defender is proactive not reactive

We compared their defensive contributions not just tackled and saw how Vidic in 09 bossed VVD in his best season

Expert17:


Just like Owen and Rooney....Ferdinard peaked early...
He had already played 10 seasons in the world toughest league at the very top, ....Vidic was in farmers league then...

All those 2010 upwards, ...Ferdinard legs were almost gone, just using brain to defend...

Ferdinand was slightly above average then he was like John Stones at Everton

I watched him at Leeds then and he was just like Stones, The same way Stones was bought for a record fee was how Rio was bought, given he was English and he flopped badly until they brought Vidic beside him to stabilize him, The highest point of Rios career was when Vidic played beside him

You are asking what Vidic did in Spartak? What he did was what led Man Utd to sign him from Russia and throw him into the first team immediately

raumdeuter:


If Ramos has won with Navas Casillas with him leading the defence, So how is DeGeas failure on Ramos. Last CL without Ramos, Madrid conceded 3 at home to Ajax

De gea perform better with Man utd than Spain...

Courtois perform better with country than Real madrid...

So Ramos will stop ajax from scoring The best Ramos can do, is to score for madrid....he is good in that

raumdeuter:


We compared their defensive contributions not just tackled and saw how Vidic in 09 bossed VVD in his best season

The league has changed completely. Using stats from over a decade ago when the game and environment was completely different is ridiculous. This doesn't even make your case

raumdeuter:


Which footballer or defender didnt have weaknesses? Vidic was superhuman because despite his limitations he played at the level no EPL defender has ever done. He was the one covering up for Rio

They both covered for each other which was why it was a great partnership....
And what exactly does Vidic have that Terry didn't?
They both had similar strengths and weekness (pace)..
Though Terry was very comfortable on the ball unlike Vidic...
What level has Vidic reached that no other has?

Godx:
The league has changed completely. Using stats from over a decade ago when the game and environment was completely different is ridiculous. This doesn't even make your case

What has changed and what then makes VVD better than Vidic?

Godx:


The league has changed completely. Using stats from over a decade ago when the game and environment was completely different is ridiculous.

Really really ridiculous....
Different times, different situations, different teams etc

kendrick93:
They both covered for each other which was why it was a great partnership....
And what exactly does Vidic have that Terry didn't?
They both had similar strengths and weekness (pace)..
Though Terry was very comfortable on the ball unlike Vidic...
What level has Vidic reached that no other has?

Terry was another pointing defender though still better than Rio. Who was just covered. Chelsea only won the CL when Terry the liabilty left the field

Expert17:


Just like Owen and Rooney....Ferdinard peaked early...
He had already played 10 seasons in the world toughest league at the very top, ....Vidic was in farmers league then...

All those 2010 upwards, ...Ferdinard legs were almost gone, just using brain to defend...

2007-09 was his peak.....

raumdeuter:


Ferdinand was slightly above average then he was like John Stones at Everton

I watched him at Leeds then and he was just like Stones, The same way Stones was bought for a record fee was how Rio was bought, given he was English and he flopped badly until they brought Vidic beside him to stabilize him, The highest point of Rios career was when Vidic played beside him

You are asking what Vidic did in Spartak? What he did was what led Man Utd to sign him from Russia and throw him into the first team immediately

Even Maldini/Nesta/Cannavaro will flop with this players.

Caroll

G neville. Sylvester. Oshea.

Expert17:
De gea perform better with Man utd than Spain...

Courtois perform better with country than Real madrid...

So Ramos will stop ajax from scoring The best Ramos can do, is to score for madrid....he is good in that

Ramos played Ajax in Amsterdam in their own stadium and they scored once.
He played many top teams when Madrid won the treble CL and stopped a lot of them

raumdeuter:


What has changed and what then makes VVD better than Vidic?

Posting that comparism ten times doesn't make your case. Talking of pure defense ability those two are on par.

raumdeuter:


Ramos played Ajax in Amsterdam in their own stadium and they scored once.
He played many top teams when Madrid won the treble CL and stopped a lot of them

And got a red card which cost his team....
Is that a sign of a good defender?

raumdeuter:


Ramos played Ajax in Amsterdam in their own stadium and they scored once.
He played many top teams when Madrid won the treble CL and stopped a lot of them

The only thing we will remember Ramos for, is those UCL goals, he do score at critical moment...

You can't say Ramos did something spectacular in defence.....

Expert17:


Even Maldini/Nesta/Cannavaro will flop with this players.

Caroll

G neville. Sylvester. Oshea.

But Vidic in 2011 was leading Evans Oshea Brown to win the EPL without looking like a disaster

Godx:

Posting that comparism ten times doesn't make your case. Talking of pure defense ability those two are on par.

There is nothing defensive about VVD that runs away from attacker and avoids players

kendrick93:
And got a red card which cost his team....
Is that a sign of a good defender?

Its what he does while on the field that counts not what he couldnt do when he is off the field. On the field he limited Ajax to 1 goal, off Ajax scored 3

raumdeuter:


But Vidic in 2011 was leading Evans Oshea Brown to win the EPL without looking like a disaster

Haaaaaa

Van dersar, Ferdinard and Evra are part of our first choice defence in 2011......

I dnt know where you get this ones from oo

Expert17:
The only thing we will remember Ramos for, is those UCL goals, he do score at critical moment...
You can't say Ramos did something spectacular in defence.....

How did he now lead Madrid to 3 CL titles being the defensive kingpin

raumdeuter:


There is nothing defensive about VVD that runs away from attacker and avoids players

All your posts recently are clouded with bias and agenda driven. Ride on boss

Expert17:


Haaaaaa

Van dersar, Ferdinard and Evra are part of our first choice defence in 2011......

I dnt know where you get this ones from oo

Ferdinand was out injured playing 1700mins, and Vidic partnered Oshea Evans and Brown in Center defence without looking like a clown

Godx:

All your posts recently are clouded with bias and agenda driven. Ride on boss

Everyone who watches VVD knows he runs away from attackers to avoid getting dribbled while Vidic and Ramos are the opposite, they go to where its hot and throw themselves in it