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Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by 2good(m): 6:27pm On May 15, 2012 |
Frendys: Your intention is wrong and short sighted. If at this stage of your life you have become articulate at undermining your institution openly then you will never see good in anyone or anything else. You are doomed because you have no sense of gratitude and value. Public institutions are no different or better. I went to a public institution named University of Lagos where my tuition from year 1 to year 3 was 355 naira, while year 4 and year 5 tuition was around 5000 naira and 8000 naira respectively yet things were not close to as bad as the OP portrayed Redeemer University. Also, I didn't attend Unilag in the 80's but from 1999 to 2005, which is very recent. If tuition is as much as 600,000 naira, the quality of everything should be as good as obtainable abroad. You don't have to defend Redeemer University simply because it is a Christian University. 1 Like |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by lekawo26: 6:28pm On May 15, 2012 |
stagger: Anyone with complaints should go to the National Universities Commission, not Nairaland.u r a slowpoke...i attended Bowen and only cos I wanted to make sure i graduated on time. The federal schools are definaitely better but the strikes have strongly diminished their value hence the need to attend private schools if we can afford them. That being said, Christian schools are just BIG SCAMS..my chaplain impreganated a girl and accused her that she was a witch...The dude is in Liverpool on Baptist covention money..no consequences..whereas I was suspended for Strolling with my chick in the "dark" (i was right under the street light when i was accosted by the VC (jobless man) himself. If u want good education send you kids abroad but the best of bad choices in Naija na still Private Unis |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by WhyAWhy(m): 6:33pm On May 15, 2012 |
[size=13pt]I am so TIRED of hearing about PRIVATE universities [/size] 1. I 100% agree that no University runs on water so everyone shouting that their contributions didn't grant them admission into university should just park well. 2. When these universities started springing up, I actually thought there would be about 2 or 3 extremely formidable private universities that would be ssoooo packed with world-class facilities and funding (not just some make-believe buildings, like CU) that they can attract scholars from around the world and even make Professors in Fed. University turn green with envy. The result of which would be a new generation of people who can tell the government what education should be like. I AM SO DISAPPOINTED ON all FRONTS. There's no single world-class private university in Nigeria. 3. Forcing the gospel down anyone's throat will not make them good individuals when they leave the university. I have met graduates from C.U and if you know what this girls do with men, your eyes would fall out of your socket.So, what point has been made? 4. No Phones? Hello?!! Give me a break. BB is the easiest service from which a student can get access to the internet. With the ton load of information online this days.... whatever anyone now decides to do with such service is their cup of tea. I bet they will restrict their internet GATEWAY to allow only their school website, google(for what now, dem fit search porn), and probably yahoo. I shake my head and laugh in foreign languages 5. I graduated from OAU with so much freedom et al, many individuals have their lives shapened into good alumni you see around.. that's another story jare.. make i stop here PRIVATE SCHOOL MY BEHIND!!!! |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 6:33pm On May 15, 2012 |
yuzedo: This was NOT written by an aggrieved undergraduate of RUNS, or even an undergraduate for that matter!_ The Bible forbids me calling somebody a fööl . . . but wait, I don't put much stock in that so . . . You. Are. An. Absolute. Point-blank. Fööl!!! How many people write JAMB in any given year? And how many, out of those that made it, are given admission in said year? In UNN alone this year, over 70k chose it as their most-prefered institution, and out of those, only 6k will be given admission. Where the hell do you espect the remaining 64k+ to go? Your papi's arsehole? So I reiterate, you're a classical olodo! |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 6:38pm On May 15, 2012 |
walex2: The poster_ Secondary school maybe. You can't expect grown-arse men to go without the basic tool of communication. I can give you eleven-hundred reasons why that is all kinds of wrong! |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Christine01(f): 6:44pm On May 15, 2012 |
It is well!!! I also experienced some inhuman treatment for the 2 years I spent I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ Madonna University, Okija Campus. I had to leave and start afresh I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ a state university. I still regret the years and money wasted I̶̲̥̅̊n̶̲̥̅̊ that school. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 6:54pm On May 15, 2012 |
...blah,blah,blah-nobody bought the form for you,you got it yourself.so you get what you want.... |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 7:05pm On May 15, 2012 |
I felt so touched by this story, it reminds of the shit i went through in school, though not a private school but seriously, they all have serious pitfalls! |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by otokx(m): 7:19pm On May 15, 2012 |
Who forced the poster to go to the private university? Is it because he could not pass post ume and JAMB? Please stop complaining. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by WhyAWhy(m): 7:36pm On May 15, 2012 |
wow^^^ Can't you see beyond JAMB? How many years down the line? C'mon the poster made many serious points that NUC ought to look into and FYI, I know people who left federal Universities(OAU where I studied) and went to private universities (Babcock and Covenant).. What have you got to say about those ones.. at least they must have aced jamb to enter oau |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Maxymilliano(m): 8:33pm On May 15, 2012 |
@ Poster, you culled this story from the opinion page of Daily Post, you only provide an addendum to suit your purpose. You should be sued for first degree plagiarism if there's anything like that. The author of the article is known to me and he's definately not this poster. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by pongwa(m): 8:37pm On May 15, 2012 |
@poster, i do not understand your problem..... is it that u do not know the vision of the school 'ni' or what... if you are not contented with their rules, why dont u just leave instead of trying to win the sympathy of people here. i was expecting u to comment on the fees and all that and ur talking trash...... go check islamic schools (core ones) and u go understand better (ode)..... i belief the rules are not compulsory, only for their students... if u nor like am comot na.... mtchewww |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by pdpiperpippen: 8:46pm On May 15, 2012 |
musKeeto: I'm not surprised. Had a friend at CU too. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by pdpiperpippen: 8:48pm On May 15, 2012 |
You are a clear case of stupidity gone on rampage. Did anyone force you to pay tithes! Mhen u suck! I'm disgusted, rubbish! Mttcheeeeww!!! |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by pdpiperpippen: 8:52pm On May 15, 2012 |
And whoever authored this shameful tale, you are stuck with redeemers cos u cldn't pass jamb, ur parents sent u to skol and rather than read u were Fooling abt like u are currently doing, u made ur bed lie on it and pls spear me the noise. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by SmartCount(m): 9:00pm On May 15, 2012 |
walex2: The poster Shattap, u don't know anything! Mummy boy like u. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by akmid(f): 9:22pm On May 15, 2012 |
papatosibe: my elder bro aced jamb,had 261 at 1st attempt but went to a private uni,the funny thing is,in his jamb form,his 1st choice of a uni was the private uni,so its possible to ace jamb and attend a private uni! |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by sigmundfreud(m): 10:26pm On May 15, 2012 |
book of lamentation...so dem put rope for your neck there too? This church bizness sef... |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by deleo16(m): 10:41pm On May 15, 2012 |
this poster of this thread is only warning others that will seek admission inthe school my advise for him is that if he is in final he should just endure or 300lvl and graduate. But it is sad that what happen in private school that pays close to .6million and more SMH well u cant expect all worker in the skl to be good but the autorities should do something abt it cause it will give the school bad name and i also wonder why people open university all in the name of profit making and not for developmental,educative driving,knowlegde base for today transformation for students. producing half baked graduate. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 10:54pm On May 15, 2012 |
hotwax: [size=13pt]Yes Church has to make money. If ya dont like it, stop paying your tithe to them. Na by force to contribute to church ? We don't see Mosque after every 5mins drive..What we are saying is, there are churches everywhere and yet we have the same problem over and over again, not one thing has been solved...Yet, they extort from us, and when it is time to fight for us, we don't see them...But we will be there laying hands to some new blessings from the, lay hands on my new car and pray for me, lay hands on my new house and pray for me, lay hands on my university, sorry, universities and pray for me, but yet, we have people dying, worse part of it, the government makes it worse... |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 11:03pm On May 15, 2012 |
solaceguy: Long write-up....did'nt care to read it With your first class, you will work in the same environment with those who had third class, and then you get paid the same salary, and you might not be exposed as they were when they were in school, what they did during their school days, you might do them now, now, if you aced your jamb and international exams, good luck to you, but then, the so-called private universities have not given them any medium to have good jobs despite the high amount of cash they pay, the country no good, but people still pay such amount, the country no good, and yet someone in the same school talks about this..With your first class and international degree you have had, i ask you to define a UNIVERSITY, and then tell me, does the private UNIVERSITY you see, or that you went to, portray such definition..Giving rules, like not having phones...not bringing cars, and according to my fellow friends, when someone comes later before resumption date at madonna, they get flogged, which do you prefer, a life that is directed for you, or a life you choose for yourself, because the former is what i see the private university in this country doing.. 2 Likes |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 11:14pm On May 15, 2012 |
[quote author=musKeeto]I'm not surprised. Had a friend at CU too. For those who think the church doesn't make money, let me give you a hint to the amount of milllions that pour into the church's coffers. I've worked for one of the parishes of the RCCG. My parish is what's called an AREA headquarters. I had access to most of the financial sheets within our church. We'll ignore offerings(building, special, seedfaith, all other bullshit), and donations. TITHES: this is the real windfall Every month, each member is expected to pay 10% of his salary. For our case study, let's assume one church has a 100 members. Let's also assume each of them earns minimum wage. 18,000 * 10% = 1,800 1,800 * 100 = 180,000naira every month. Imagine a church has at most 10 branches in a state. 180,000 * 10 =1.8million naira per month.. There are 36 states in Nigeria, Abuja is excluded.. 1.8m * 36= 64.8m naira every month.. Need I say more.. REMEMBER OFFERINGS, DONATIONS, SPECIAL SERVICE OFFERINGS, ARE NOT INCLUDED IN THESE FIGURES[/quote If you have thought about this, well, i don't know if it is either good or bad for you...But then, lets take a different look at the south african companies, e.g....MTN.. WE have about 150million nigerians right...now lets take out 30million using MTN...if 10million buy 100naira recharge daily.....How much does that cost?.....1,000,000,000 on a daily basis...now, if the other 20million the next day buys the same 100naira...what do we have....2,000,000,000 daily, MTN now has been in this country for about 10yrs or so, now lets take out 5yrs, saying they didn't make such amount....and that 5yrs on a daily basis, they made such...if my calculation is right, 2billion for 30days, 60billion in a month, for a year, it is 21900billion, not sure some people will understand it if i right it in zillions, and then for 5yrs, we have, 109500billion,...yet, they have not made any development yet for buildings...road construction....or they didnt take it up to themselves to do something right....because it is a south african company....lets move on... DSTV....We have about 150million nigerians right...and i can remember these days..HITV isn't a competitor anymore, or the rest...now lets just have a rough statistics...lets say least..20million users of DSTV, and on a daily basis, 1million pays about 10,000, another 1million pays i don't know the other plans, we have the calculation still running into trillions, and yet, NIGERIA is broke, and how much do these people pay their staffs? I have no idea, so if you talk of the churches, my brother, everything na the same, because me don tire for the country,,,my head sef wan burst for wetin dey go on...chop make you chop na him dey happen for this country... |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by jpphilips(m): 11:26pm On May 15, 2012 |
sample042: @op, if nt 4 maturity i wuld ve used harsh words on u. 4rm ur write up u seemd enlightnd n intelligent bt 4rm wat u composed above it demeans ur personality. Complain s nt a solutn to such things. As a poster 1c said "quit d sch" if it's nt convenient 4 u. Mind u, am nt a redeemer. you sound more myopic than the lad you are castigating, this is the last paragraph of his post What’s the point of this write-up? The world deserves to know what goes on in these so called private universities. Covenant University is another university with loads of secrets. Do not be deceived. If proper investigations are carried out, who knows what can be achieved? We young people are made to endure a lot and when we complain to our parents, most of them ignore our tales in the belief that they are nothing but tales. I guess it is until something happens to the child of someone prominent in the society or military that these vices will be tackled. from the bold part, he made it clear that at the point of entry, the choice wasn't theirs but their wards, the lad from his example was just 16, at 16, how many important decisions of your life did you take by yourself if you were not an abandoned child or semi bast@rd? if this was a summary test, you could have made a mess of your IQ from ur comments alone 1 Like |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by rhymz(m): 11:35pm On May 15, 2012 |
Frendys: Your intention is wrong and short sighted. If at this stage of your life you have become articulate at undermining your institution openly then you will never see good in anyone or anything else. You are doomed because you have no sense of gratitude and value. Public institutions are no different or better.You are worse than a móro'n Mr. You are not any different from these rogues that use the bible to fleece people. You are prolly angry because unlike the brainwashed majority like yourself, the kid has refused to be tamed into a docile, mind programmed religious robot like you. If every sphere of one's life was all about reading the pages of the bible before succeeding the whole of Nigeria would have been better off morally and economically? We wont be reckoned with scam and corruption as a nation. Instead of you addressing the issues that the kid raised, you rather chose to busy yourself with insult laced sermon and stoopid ego boosting anecdote of your fictitious cousins that attended CU and his claims of working in one of the fortune 100s as if all that gibberish was related to the topic being discussed. What an eeeeeediot!! Incase the kid's article went over your head, he was trying to say:"Where is the fairness in making their parents pay so much as school fees for quality education only to get sheer mediocrity at its peak in the guise of a faith based knowledge. How does knowing the bible from Gen to Rev help you get a decent job? How come they obsess themselves with useless policies that have little or no bearing on improving their academic excellence only for them to be trivializing the main issues that will affect their performance and better their academic excellence. Did their parents pay all that money for them to learn the church's set-morals? What kind of bullshit are you sipping sef..... |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by texazzpete(m): 11:53pm On May 15, 2012 |
deseg: Hello, anonymous reporter. Firstly, may I ask why you hid your identity if you are not afraid of opposition(s). here is another example of an educated illiterate and a brainwashed Zombie! You say God instructs us to always obey our leaders...tell me, if the disciples had obeyed the Pharisees, the Sadducees and the Sanhedrin in their commands to STOP preaching about Jesus, would you have Christianity today? Someone is bold enough to chronicle serious lapses in the way Redeemers Uni is run and instead of praises all you can babble about is curses? |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by fbabs(m): 1:46am On May 16, 2012 |
@ op pls reply to the above comments. Private universities are nothing but advanced high school and vain glorious. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 2:25am On May 16, 2012 |
At times we are too gullible to tackle most problems in our life because of fear of pastors, Άπϑ not Ǥø̲̣đ.when has complaining about a school become a sin?some religious zombie has termed any complain about Ǥø̲̣đ as sin.the poster made some salient point here, Άπϑ some people are too religious to see it.Ǎ̜̣̍ lot of sit happen in most of this religious body, I own Ǎ̜̣̍ tutorial center, Άπϑ I have some religion leaders coming to meet me to assist their wards in examinations.I am always surprise cos most of this people stand before congregation condemning such as sin. Ǥø̲̣đ Iڪ watching us. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 7:40am On May 16, 2012 |
solaceguy: this person did not attend RUN, and d person that said d writer has good vocabs is obviously a graduate of a sub-standard university. Emerole is a Professor and not a doctor. he was the first 1st-class-in-biochemistry graduate in nigeria. I saw many other lies you told about RUN, #Godiswatchingyou ....btw d past tense of 'Dive' is 'Dove' and not 'dived' Dived is also correct |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Nobody: 7:51am On May 16, 2012 |
akmid: How many people dey use dem head write JAMB nowadays with all the runs going on. I know three students on my street who scored above 250 in the last exam but can't define what a cell is |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by means(m): 7:55am On May 16, 2012 |
. Yomieluv(m): Quote Post At times we are too gullible to tackle most problems in our life because of fear of pastors, Άπϑ not Ǥø̲̣đ.when has complaining about a school become a sin?some religious zombie has termed any complain about Ǥø̲̣đ as sin.the poster made some salient point here, Άπϑ some people are too religious to see it.Ǎ̜̣̍ lot of sit happen in most of this religious body, I own Ǎ̜̣̍ tutorial center, Άπϑ I have some religion leaders coming to meet me to assist their wards in examinations.I am always surprise cos most of this people stand before congregation condemning such as sin. Ǥø̲̣đ Iڪ watching Did I hear u say you own a tutorial center? Please, close it down for your grammar alone. |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by Slyr0x: 8:10am On May 16, 2012 |
Maxymilliano: @ Poster, you culled this story from the opinion page of Daily Post, you only provide an addendum to suit your purpose. You should be sued for first degree plagiarism if there's anything like that. Here comes another slowpoke. .Did you read the part about the story being culled from http://dailypost.com.ng/2012/05/11/private-christian-universities-faith-in-deception/ ?? |
Re: Private Christian Universities: Faith In Deception? by bigcil2(m): 8:17am On May 16, 2012 |
You guys here make me sick, seriously! How dare you calculate the amount of money that a Church makes, especially a Church that has the Trinity in.... This is very bad.. I dont know your religion but non of you should have. To start off before you count the earning of any Church of God, calculate how much it would cost you to purchase Oxygen, because if not because of His mercy on your life, you'd either be dead, beggar, or even a vegetable in the Hospital. The sin that God would not forgive is sin of the Holy spirit and that is when you accuse the holy spirit wrongly, i.e when a man of God is having the holy spirit and you call him a fake,fraud etc...... If you dont believe in Hell, well, its only when you get there that you will know its fake. Like i said previously Calculate how much you would have spent for Oxygen, then calculate the tithes and everything the church has and see if its even close to your expenditure. God doesnt need your money , but He wants you to sow... You can only reap when you sow..... Please i would advice all nairalanders to detest from this act, God is watching and i pray that his grace will never cease in any of your lives..IJN...AMEN! Now about the way students are been treated in private universities, i believe its ok.....private universities in a whole including crescent which is a Muslim institution.. the world is corrupt , you have teenagers now into drugs , alcohol etc , we are moving at the fast rate to destruction, moral values have been depleted from homes, the only place that these values can be impacted are the schools, secondary..etc... You feel freedom is sweet, it is but it can go two ways : build you, or destroy you... Trust me i know...If you cant control your freedom, it will control you. Thats why these institutions take it on their selves to control students. Look the bottom line is simple , if you want to be a loose cannon go to where you would have the freedom to be /do so. Your parents that took you there arent fools, they want the best for you. ![]() |
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