IYA NGBALI:

we dey run comot because dem no dey dance awilo and yahoozee for the church and dem no get swagger

Guitarlife: Greetings to every body,
can you kindly explain the reason why DLBC misled alot of people in the nineties claiming that the television was the devil's box?
We all know now that all branche's of deeper life at a minimum have a projector with satellite connection but, the TV was expressly condemned then.
It even got some ministers punished and I keep wondering now how many people would have had their dream of a mass communication career aborted.
Secondly, you guy's need to begin to ask serious question's about the legality of tithe.
I expect most of you to defend tithe expressly but, your revered pastors now did worse condemning TV back in the day's.
Thank's.

haibe:
Not that t.v is bad but there are some programs shown in it that can harm the state of a christian, two ways which ur heart can be contaminated with evil is ur eyes and ur ears and dats why u av to be careful wit what u watch and hear because if they are evil thats what satan wil use to tempt u to sin and u know what that means when u begin to meditate on obscene images seen on t.v, sincerly t.v is doing more harm than good and we all know that, 80% of d programs shown on t.v are nt to be viewed by a christian who has to resist the devil. I guess thats why the man of God condemns d t.v.. And the church uses projector to view the pastors message and nt t.v where one can easily switch to a station where ponography is their watch word..GOD BLESS U.

Tioluwa: The reasons why a lot of youth run away from Deeper Life Bible Church are as follows;

1.If you happen to have Deeper life as your family church,and your parents happens to be the type that imposes decision or rules on you as such, they don't allow you get the conviction as a person why you shouldn't do certain things as stated by the church, a little escape you get from the grip of your parent either by going to school or elsewhere and you begin to mingle with other youth,you will want to live the church immediately.

2.Most Deeper Life youth are not sociable as such,they don't mingling with other youths and this can be trace to lack of self confidence on the part of some of them and this does not encourage other youths t

3.They also fail to put into congnisance the perculiar,unique and natural nature of every youth for example, the craving for opposite sex attraction, adolescent trait and character, personality make up and identity, peer group pressure, social status, biological formation, quest for independence and juveline delinquency all this and many more are the factors affecting growth and development depending on how well handled.

For a youth to enjoy an environment like the church, the church needs to understand this perculiar traits of the youth and make room for them to be helped to manage this factor positively. When once the church gets to the realisation of this basic fact, it will be very easy for any youth to belong to the church.In summary, deeper life youths are being indoctrinated and this repels them.

Notwithstanding all this, the good Deeperlife has done to some of the youth who overlook all these are far more greater than the harm because,human relation can be learnt and builded through reading and exposure while all this other areas can be worked upon as one comes to realises these flaws.

Finally, I am glad I was brought up in this DeeperLife and it has contributed immersely to what I am today and I will ever live to be greatful to God for that .

emmalinks: Greetings to All,

It is glaring that TV is not bad as a box but some programs are actually bad. You will agree with me that TV promote immorality, virtually every home video we watch today only promote immorality.
If only we can be sincere to ourselves, If we have heaven to go, we MUST do away with those things. Take note, your believe cannot change the world of God.
Deeperlife is the best place to worship as youth because it will give you a better future and makes you a responsible and fulfilled man or woman.
What you see deeperlife use today is a monitor that has no station and satellite that can only show the word that can change your life.

What you keep seeing and hearing everyday will definately affect your life either positively or negatively.

Be careful.

emmalinks: I appreciate your response. To start with, I grew up in Deeperlife bible church and I have also visited many churches and came to a logical conclusion. I am still a youth that is why I can still for on the behave of the youth. God has raise up Deeperlife to build up godly youth for the future generation if Christ tarries. The reasons people are giving is just physical things; dont wear jweries, dont wear trousers as females, what again, tell me. All these are temporary things. what about feeding the soul. Have you ever thought of where you will spend Eternity. If Deeperlife can successfully prepare and qualify you for heaven, what other benefits are you looking for.

In some places of worship, youths get sexually arouse even in the Church in the name of dancing and worshiping God. Is that right?

You said that the Holy Spirit should teach us directly not church leaders if I get you well. In Acts 14:11, Berea believers will go to church and be taught by the pastors, when they also get back home, They study the scripture also. So, the Spirit will minister to us through our pastor. let me ask you this question, why cant to just sit for WAEC and pass without going to secondary school?

You also said that the Holy spirit will teach us not the bible? John 1:1-18, Jesus is the Word (Bible) we read, the Holy Spirit explain it to us better. So, we dont neglect our pastor, God has given us a Pastor that will not mislead us.

Last part of your question is on marriage, understand that God has created you into this world and He made us to understand that it is not good for a man to be alone. We need to go back to Him(God) to a life partner not to do shadding things behind the coutin. After you have prayed and pray through, you need to go through a process that the church has laid down to help us as a you boy or girl so that we can have a successful marriage. God is interested in family. If a family is not build on the Lord through a right process, there might be problem.
God bless you and grant you understanding.

Guitarlife: Greetings to every body,
can you kindly explain the reason why DLBC misled alot of people in the nineties claiming that the television was the devil's box?
We all know now that all branche's of deeper life at a minimum have a projector with satellite connection but, the TV was expressly condemned then.
It even got some ministers punished and I keep wondering now how many people would have had their dream of a mass communication career aborted.
Secondly, you guy's need to begin to ask serious question's about the legality of tithe.
I expect most of you to defend tithe expressly but, your revered pastors now did worse condemning TV back in the day's.
Thank's.

iv4fb: @Guitarlife, I'm sorry but u sound like a demon on mission, defending same points over and over again.

In the 90's they ban the TV set, now they accept it to 'propagate the gospel', isn't that good enough? A friend of mine will say; Jesus will sure use a jet in this dispensation and not a Donkey. I still don't know what your point is; you keep shouting 'double standards', let me explain, in the 90s, they preach against u having it in ur house and according to you, they have it in public place where the programmes viewed can be controlled. So what is your point exactly?

Again you said its wrong for women to propose to me? Are u for real? In this dispensation and age? Hmmmmm. Nevertheless on what premise lies ur argument?

Whatever reason that made you serve with them was defeated, you apparently learn nothing, whether it be right or wrong but eleven months in a path you now reject is ...

Judging from the thread and the thread alone, people go to DLBC to get the Holy Spirit but its yours to determine which spirit you got from spending eleven months with them. I really don't envy you!

iv4fb: @Guitarlife, I'm sorry but u sound like a demon on mission, defending same points over and over again.

In the 90's they ban the TV set, now they accept it to 'propagate the gospel', isn't that good enough? A friend of mine will say; Jesus will sure use a jet in this dispensation and not a Donkey. I still don't know what your point is; you keep shouting 'double standards', let me explain, in the 90s, they preach against u having it in ur house and according to you, they have it in public place where the programmes viewed can be controlled. So what is your point exactly?

Again you said its wrong for women to propose to me? Are u for real? In this dispensation and age? Hmmmmm. Nevertheless on what premise lies ur argument?

Whatever reason that made you serve with them was defeated, you apparently learn nothing, whether it be right or wrong but eleven months in a path you now reject is ...

Judging from the thread and the thread alone, people go to DLBC to get the Holy Spirit but its yours to determine which spirit you got from spending eleven months with them. I really don't envy you!

Guitarlife:

And by the way, you sound like you have been brought up to sound.
To blindly oppose anybody who seek to correct you or point out any anomalies or incoherencies in your doctrine's. In case you didn't know doctrine's are mere man made rule's. So you will be liable if you fail to weigh up all teaching's.
I know DLBC don't play the guitar but was it not the same harp (stringed instrument) that david praised God with ?
Oops I forgot, it's a crime to ask question's.

emmalinks: Dont misquote me my brother, It is not going to Deeperlife that will take you to heaven, take note. It is only those that do the will of God.

You cannt change your natural hair as a woman because it is wrong. using ordinary soap for bathing is a different thing. you also use soap to bath. ordinary soap is different from relaxing soap.

Take note, we dont make use of wedding ring at all, couples are joined with the bible.

I never told you that TV is now accepted, what was condemned in the 90's is also condemn now. I told you that it is not the box but the program there.

Take note, internet is not TV, you visit the exact website you you wish. if you now visit wrong site, you are looking for trouble.

Any where you are, once you obey the scripture and do the will of God, you will make it because that is the qualification.

Lastly, the bible says "Let him that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity"

Thanks and God bless

iv4fb: Guitarlife,

Unfortunately, you're the one who's getting worked up because you feel lots of people appreciates the truth and you don't. If only you speak with an unbiased mind, you sure would have seen the truth.
For the last time let me try to put things straight to u, in late 80s and early 90s, they ban it probably coz of over zealousness or coz they believe it is difficult to control what comes out of it. Now they know better. Again if they ban it for non-genuine reason and now found out its cool to have one and they bend their laws, what's that to you?

If you still feel its wrong for a lady to ask a guy out-its your opinion and you have right to it. I put a call through to one of them pastors, he said and I quote "a lady meets the pastor to say she feel God wants her to marry this person, the pastor meets the person and ask for his opinion, if he think so too, he go and ask the girl out". Although this doesn't make much sense to me but prove to me that's wrong? I'm tempted to ask your age for your interpretation of "he who finds a wife findeth a good thing.." Is flawed, whether the girl comes to look for you or you went to look for her, the logic is you find ur wife, you probably could find something that comes your way (u may not understand my statement though) in most part of India, the girls parents finds the husband and pay the dowry, organize the wedding and fund it-is that a sin?

As for guitars, its my choice to use or not to use, there's nothing wrong or right about it. Maybe you can choose to dance naked like david if that's what you think is right but you'll agree with me that its not wrong either.

On a final note, whether they be overzealous or double standard, its not yours to judge. Fear God and keep his commandments for from the way you speak, the frivolities of this world blinds ur judgment. Please do not allow the devil use you, I've almost never heard top management of deeperlife condemn other denomination (I'm not sure though)

After all they offer you a place to serve, why didn't you put your questions to the pastors there and probably argue it out with them? If you're not satisfy with their answers, they'll probably provide you with more explanations.