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GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Ngwakwe: 9:25am On Jun 20, 2012 |
Reps summon Jonathan, security chiefs over insecurity JUNE 20, 2012 BY JOHN AMEH, ABUJA House of Representatives on Tuesday summoned President Goodluck Jonathan and the security chiefs over the escalating bomb attacks in the North and general insecurity in the country. In its resolution in Abuja, the House observed that Jonathan, as the Chief Security Officer of the nation, owed Nigerians explanations on what he had done to contain the situation. The House condemned Sunday’s bombing of churches in Kaduna and Zaria, which claimed many lives. It also condemned the reprisals that followed the bombings in the two towns. The House also raised concerns over the near state of anarchy in Damaturu, Yobe State, and the wave of banditry in Zamfara State. According to the resolution, which received unanimous support, Jonathan is to appear before the House in a “closed-door session” to brief lawmakers on the security measures the government had put in place to protect lives and property. Many members, who debated the issue, feared that the country was “under siege” from terrorist groups, kidnappers, assassins and armed robbers. A member from Kaduna State, Mr. Yakubu Barde, had raised the issue under matter of urgent national importance. Barde said Nigerians were living in fear as they were not sure when the next attack would occur. He said, “How long will Nigerians continue to live in fear? “We have to give Mr. President the marching orders to get his security agencies to be more proactive.” Mr. Godfrey Gaiya advised the House to look beyond the states where violent acts were taking place and treat the crisis as “a Nigerian problem”. He said, “This is a Nigerian problem and it is sad that Mr. President is airborne to Brazil on environmental matters when Nigeria is boiling. “Over 100 people have been killed in Kaduna as we speak.” The Chairman, House Committee on Electoral Matters, Mr. Jerry Manwe, said Jonathan would have to explain to the House how he spent “the almost N1tn” he voted for security in the 2012 budget. Manwe recalled that the President, by his own admission, told the nation that the identities of those behind the violence were not hidden. The Minority Leader, Mr. Femi Gbajabiamila, told the House he was saddened to hear that Jonathan travelled out of the country at such a critical period. He said it demonstrated his insensitivity to the plight of Nigerians, who were at the receiving end of the security challenges. Gbajabiamila said, “It is very unfortunate indeed that he is out there in Brazil to engage in some sort of climate change conference. “The House has to take proactive steps; to call on Mr. President to appear and brief the House in an executive session on what he has done on the security situation.” An Action Congress of Nigeria lawmaker from Lagos State, Ms. Jumoke Okoya-Thomas, on her part, called on Jonathan to step down if overwhelmed by the security situation. She said it was an insult to Nigerians for Jonathan to have left the country for a conference in Brazil. Okoya-Thomas said, “He should step down; let him step down.” However, the Chairman, House Committee on FCT, Mr. Emma Jime, linked the escalating violence to 2015 presidential election. Jime claimed that the tension in the country could be reduced if Jonathan made a categorical statement on his plans for 2015. He argued that it was not enough for Jonathan to say that the issue was diversionary. “What is happening is an attempt to rubbish the Jonathan presidency so that it will not have the capacity to contest in 2015,” Jime said. The House rejected an amendment to the motion calling on the Federal Government to engage Boko Haram in dialogue. The session was presided over by the Speaker, Mr. Aminu Tambuwal. www.punchng.com/news/reps-summon-jonathan-security-chiefs-over-insecurity/ |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Ngwakwe: 9:36am On Jun 20, 2012 |
Politicians know what to do for the betterment of this country but have just refused to do so because of "mutually inclusive" selfish gains. Great move by the Reps, lets all put hands together to stop these bloodshed and insecurity in this country. You may not know the pain of loosing loved ones accidentally until it happens to you. PEACE, TOLERANCE LESS SELFISHNESS all we need now. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by pdozie: 10:15am On Jun 20, 2012 |
There is nothing good about the moves. - Why didnt the reps invite the president since 2011 when the bombing started till a reprisal attack occured? - Why did the house refuse a joing meeting with Senate for the briefing - has the house invited the service chiefs and feel they didnt answer the questions before inviting the preseident - Is the house constitutionally empowered to summon a president (Need to clarify that, but i doubt) Hope they are not trying to put fire in president's bombom so they can do trade by barter with the Farouk's over $600m bribe money? |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by rasputinn(m): 10:37am On Jun 20, 2012 |
[quote author=Ngwakwe]. Great move by the Reps, lets all put hands togetherquote] [b]At times I wonder who is more stupid,the gullible Nigerian public or the roguish lawmakers that feed on the ignorance of the Nigerian masses? Go and check the Nigerian constitution,THE LAWMAKERS HAVE NO POWERS TO SUMMON THE PRESIDENT FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER,in fact it's only Mr President that can write one or both houses of the NASS requesting to address a seperate or joint sitting of the house(s),the only power they have is either to accept or reject,but they have NO POWERS to summon the president. It's rash,irresponsible,immature and drunken resolutions like these that tend to lend credence to the wicked assertions by evil men like IBB who once said that the Nigerian youths are not ready to lead the nation. A bunch of ignorant, rascally rogues misfiring on all cylinders,I wonder how many of them really know what their constitutional duties are,how many of them have even taken the time to study the constitution,little wonder they assume it's ok to rob,cheat,blackmail,demand for and collect bribes[/b] |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by ochukoccna: 12:02pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
From this comments on this thread and numerous ones that relate to the office of the president, it's obvious that what Tunde Bakare said recently about Jonathan balkanizing Nigeria is true Ebele forgets Nigerians united to oppose the cabal for his elevation as acting president Regardless of the claims of scientific rigging,majority of the voters leaned towards him as president Yet he keeps giving untenable excuses about people rubbishing his presidency forgetting he's C-in-C He seems not to understand what it means to control the armed forces after 2 whole years Let him ask his godfather [OBJ] on handling security threats We saw what America did to the terrorist threat to them by reacting to 9/11 and been proactive since then Now that he's in Rio, what would he respond when other heads of government ask about Nigeria? Maybe he thinks the presidency is to take photos and junket all over the globe for dollar estacode He's Nigeria's president not a caretaker, dammit!
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Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 12:06pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
Ngwakwe: Politicians know what to do for the betterment of this country but have just refused to do so because of "mutually inclusive" selfish gains. Correction, the Politicians can only do for you what you want. So far, it seems Jonathan is still what Nigerians want. Unless Nigerians rally and call for the Politicians to force him down, expect the status quo to continue. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by ochukoccna: 12:07pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
Ms. Jumoke Okoya-Thomas, on her part, called on Jonathan to step down if overwhelmed by the security situation. She said it was an insult to Nigerians for Jonathan to have left the country for a conference in Brazil. Okoya-Thomas said, “He should step down; let him step down.”This is already been whispered by many Very soon, it will become a chorus [size=28pt]Ebele take action, no more excuses[/size] Declare a state of emergency [hey, he's done that in some LG's up north already] but do something concrete |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 12:09pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
rasputinn: At times I wonder who is more silly,the gullible Nigerian public or the roguish lawmakers that feed on the ignorance of the Nigerian masses? Do you mind providing us with information on what particular section of the constitution you refer to? |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Ngwakwe: 12:31pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
At least, let all government institutions and civil societies be involved. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 1:38pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
Ngwakwe: At least, let all government institutions and civil societies be involved. Involved in what? saving you?? Please, go read your Constitution to know what the real job of Government is and who is really in charge here. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Demdem(m): 1:59pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
Ngwakwe: Reps summon Jonathan, security chiefs over insecurity i dont know about u guys but am good at detecting fraud from far off. Though we are still in 2012, am sure this is another fraud that will soon materialise. Qoute me |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by rasputinn(m): 10:52pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: If you can ask that question here,then I may have grossly over-estimated you. In any case,I'm not here to lecture anybody on this.It is what it is,they have no such powers. Chapter 1,part 2 section 4 Jeez,the constitution is so protective of the president dammit,get a copy and peruse it closely and see the misadventure of the "rogues and armed robbers" in the house of reps |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by hardywaltz(m): 11:26pm On Jun 20, 2012 |
rasputinn:Dont be so sure. Even when the constitution is as clear as ABC people still heard to court to have the meaning of that ABC interpreted. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by rasputinn(m): 2:37pm On Jun 21, 2012 |
hardywaltz: So sure of what? The level of naivety I come across on nairaland most times is mind boggling |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 2:45pm On Jun 21, 2012 |
rasputinn: Again, where in the constitution did you read that NASS cannot summon the president. This is a clear and straight forward question. And simple too. There is nothing protective about the constitution as it is freely available, even online to the world to see. If you do not know where it is. . .. go to Google, type NIGERIAN CONSTITUTION, and google will gladly serve you up with a copy. All we would need next is for you to identity which particular section this claim of your is in. There is no need for the drawn out debate on what it contains when all you need to do is SHOW US WHERE. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by rasputinn(m): 2:56pm On Jun 21, 2012 |
Kobojunkie: So you have googled the Nigerian constitution and yet you did not understand whatever it was you googled. Mr man,quit being ridiculous,I dont want to regret talking with you,I already have a measure of disppointment in you,dont make it worse. I hav told you the house lacks the constitutional powers to summon the president,if you doubt me,go and get a copy of the constitution and study it very well or to save time,just pick your phone and ask an informed person,but if you dont want to do either and stick to your wrong position,it's a free world. I rise |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 3:08pm On Jun 21, 2012 |
rasputinn: [size=18pt]NIGERIAN CONSTITUTION -->[/size] http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm [size=14pt]What section in the Nigerian constitution do you extract your claim that NASS cannot summon the president of Nigeria. [/size] |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by rasputinn(m): 3:17pm On Jun 23, 2012 |
@Kobojunkie, can you give instances where your US congress has ever summoned their President? I can't seem for find any. Even when they wanted to "invite over" Condolezza Rice, so much trade offs were made behind the scene on what questions she could be asked and for how long she's to appear before them - if they had used the summons or subpoena it wouldn't have worked Beaf: Beaf: Beaf: From the above,I see no further need to waste my time with you |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 11:41am On Jun 24, 2012 |
rasputinn: So I interpret that to mean you have been lying all this time since you are still unable to show us that your claim is based on FACTS. The request for you to show where it says NASS has no such power, was never on ascertaining when the power has been used in the past, but on the existence of that power. It does not matter whether a law has ever been applied or not-- Laws are usually only invoked when circumstances call for them to be --- what matters is whether the law exists, and clearly you have failed to show in this particular case that the laws baring NASS from summoning the president exist. Clearly you LIED, and so I rest my case too. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Nenum(m): 12:56pm On Jun 24, 2012 |
@ Rasputinn and @ Kobojunkie Lol. The constitution on the right of attendance of the president can be found in Chapter V, Part 1, section 67(1-2). And from my understanding it is not expressly stated if eithEr of the houses has the power 2 summon the president, however if they do, He has the right 2 decide to attend unlike his minister's. Cheers |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 1:00pm On Jun 24, 2012 |
67. (1) The President may attend any joint meeting of the National Assembly or any meeting of either House of the National Assembly, either to deliver an address on national affairs including fiscal measures, or to make such statement on the policy of government as he considers to be of national importance. 67(1-2) does not tell you anything about summons. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 1:15pm On Jun 24, 2012 |
Nenum: @ Rasputinn and @ KobojunkieI don't believe section 67(1-2) is it. More like 89(1-2). There the constitution highlights the fact that the house does infact have the power to summon ANY PERSON IN NIGERIA -- if the President is in Nigeria, he can be summoned because he qualifies as an any person. 89. [size=13pt](1) For the purposes of any investigation under section 88 of this Constitutional and subject to the provisions thereof, the Senate or the House of Representatives or a committee appointed in accordance with section 62 of this Constitution shall have power to -[/size] Nenum: however if they do, He has the right 2 decide to attend unlike his minister's. Cheers NOT Quite true! ANY PERSON has a right 2 decide to attend(NO EXCEPTIONS MADE FOR THE PRESIDENT IN THIS CASE BY THE LAW). However, I re-direct your attention again back to what section 89(1d,2) has to say. 89. A major decision we as a nation have to make is how much respect we want to accord our laws. Do we want to abide by the laws of the land, or do we simple want to let chaos continue to reign. Is it our goal to build and live in a structured society, or do we just want to continue with chaos and uncertainly that has plagued generations? A clear decision for Nigerians to make. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Nenum(m): 2:35pm On Jun 24, 2012 |
@Kobojunkie Well said........ According 2 Section 89, is the president or presidency under direct investigation by d house? If not, then Sec 89 cannot be said to be valid In this circumstance Please note, am here with the clear notion that I can and am willing 2 learn 89. (1) For the purposes of any investigation under section 88 of this Constitutional and subject to the provisions thereof, the Senate or the House of Representatives or a committee appointed in accordance with section 62 of this Constitution shall have power |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 2:47pm On Jun 24, 2012 |
Nenum: @Kobojunkie Section 89 essentially gives the House/Senate the power to call on ANY PERSON in Nigeria. Any Person/the President is not required to be under DIRECT INVESTIGATION by the house, to be summoned by the House according to Section 89 there. Section 89, does not stipulate that the House can only summon those who are directly under investigation, so we need to be careful that we do not add to the law or modify it in anyway if the hope is to end the chaos and let rule of law win. Section 89 is valid as long as section 88 is. And since Section 88 reads 88. . . . I am lost as to where you got your statement suggesting direct investigations only. If you do have a section in the Constitution to back your line that if the President or presidency is not under direct investigation, then it is exempt, please show us, let us all learn of the existence of this loophole/exemption. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Nenum(m): 4:32pm On Jun 24, 2012 |
@KObojunkie I do not think me or you or anyone can add 2 an existing constitution and it would become valid, so at this junction I would humbly ask for a vivid interpretation from a constitutional lawyer on this one. As I do understand that the major difference or obstacle as u may have it between a written and applied constitution it's in it's interpretation. Thanks |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 4:36pm On Jun 24, 2012 |
Nenum: @KObojunkie I am sorry, what? What further interpretation do you require of what is written in clear language up there? What part of all that are you having a problem with? The context is made clear and the details are made obvious, what more information will you need from a constitutional lawyer, if I may ask? You know what, forget I asked. I think I have accomplished what I set out to here and that is to show people what the Constitution really says. It is now up to individuals who have read this to then decide what they will do with the information set before them. |
Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by 401kk: 1:10am On Jun 25, 2012 |
Oh damn! These house of ràpes members are getting crazier |
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Re: GEJ should stepdown? Reps Summon Jonathan, Security Chiefs Over Insecurity by Kobojunkie: 2:47am On Jun 25, 2012 |
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