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Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by sleekch1c(f): 7:13pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
@poster, Dats too harsh,I meant ur title |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by gulfer: 7:21pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
This is a foolish post meant to make all NLders look foolish or what? |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Nobody: 7:21pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
Thats sad experience, sorry bro. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by confetti(f): 8:09pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
@ Poster, Who says Ecobank doesn't operate moneygram? That's not true. I received money through moneygram via ecobank just last month. It is true that you have to withdraw from your bank because I also went to UBA but was asked to bring a Surety or go to my bank for the withdrawal and i tell you it didn't take me more than 10 mins.to pick up my money from Oceanic now Ecobank.I think the problem is that you are sort of naive. On the other hand, what exactly does these bank mangers do if they cant put their eyes down and see what happens in their branches. How was the money withdrawn without owning an account or signing a guarantor form which is the CBN stipulation? Did the Bank Guy sign the guarantor form himself? his signature should be traceable or did he forge one? That's fraud. You made a mistake, Did he tell you he was going to remove that amount from the onset? besides it was an oral agreement. You shouldn't have left the bank without meeting their manager. If I were in your shoes, I would have gone straight to the manager and perhaps you would have gotten your money complete. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by badboym: 8:43pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
This is Nonsense.I deal with money transfer agencies a lot in Nigeria and it's true that if you don't have an account with a bank you intend to cash your transaction,you can't receive money sent to you.The guy got paid for using the back door to cash your transaction so please shut up. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by boyendowed(m): 10:08pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
papadenzel: If you read the op properly, you'll realize that in the bank the poster operates accounts, they don't have moneygram but western union. So his choice for picking @ any bank that does @ any cost. Make your investigations properly and you'll see that it is the norm for these tellers doing int'l transfers to do such manipulations. You made a valid point but PUKKAH made an important observation.PUKKAH said "Are you sure you are the real owner of the money? If you were, you would not be ready to part with 10% (out of the little amount) because you could easily have walked into the bank where you have an account". I think the poster should give a reply to that 1 Like |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by adesteve: 10:17pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
@poster I guess you dont have bankers in your family cos if you do, that means you equally have 'fraudsters' in your family too...i dont know what your grouse is...why were you so contented to part with 10% in the first place if there is no 'monkey' business in the transaction? If the police are better than bankers, why dont you keep your money with them or better still open an account with NPF Microfinance? *smh* Listen to words of wisdom- remove the 'log of wood' in your eyes before attempting to remove the speck in other peoples' eyes...you are as guilty as that crooked banker...the giver and the taker of 'kere' must be blamed equally...#fact# 1 Like |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Reference(m): 10:50pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
Poster. When you fight corruption, corruption fights back. You dare not take on the banking industry in Nigeria. You can't win. Even the Federal government that has lost trillions laundered through these banks can't find anything. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Abimbola29(m): 11:05pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
I A̶̲̥̅♏ also a victim of such |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by 3rdparty: 11:47pm On Jun 28, 2012 |
Sorry bro |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by 86kid(f): 12:03am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Oh ye victims of such! You are intended corraborators of fraud or ignorant its fraud. I'd always say that kudos should be given to the Nigerian banking system because of all systems in Nigeria it works superb even in comparison to its counterparts the world over. There are fraudsters in the system, just like you'd find anywhere in the world, and it should be our responsiblity to curb and not to aid them in thier dealings. If you have a dispense error complaint especially using another bank's ATM Machine, this could take a while to reverse and you'd need to exercise patience. For every transaction in your account, there is a description... Errors happen (The banker's job isnt an easy one), and if you or the bank notice first, it will be reverse upon complaint. If not... The courts are open. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by chucky234(m): 12:27am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Pukkah:I am not sure of you post this in regard to the OP story or another one because your post is completely riducously,the new rules sales you can cash money from Western Union or Money Gram only at any of branch of the bank you maintain an account with or look for a person who maintain an account with the bank to stand surety for you to cash the money and that the OP did explained in his story. My only problem with the OP is that the 10% is not too much to refers to him as a thief because you paying for a favoured rendered which you agreed to,there is nothing wrong with the banker taking 10% for helping cash money you needed urgently as you stated in your story. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by onatisi(m): 6:11am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Sgtkoselupa: The policy to have an account before you can cash any transfer in your favour via Western Union or Moneygram was breached by that banker for peculiarly gains. No thanks to our country specific fraud level which made this anti people policy to be introduced. Many Nigerians that are expecting remittances do not have thank you my brother pls tell tht man that is saying that because u dont want to have an accunt before cashing a money transfer that action makes u a criminal.what happens to the old woman who doesnt know and the money sent is even barely enough does that means that she too must go the rigours of opening an accunt.i believe there are better ways of catching yahoo boys than this and let it be know all yahoo boys have bankers s collaborators they dont just walk into any bank they go to banks that they know someone working in there to help them beat the system |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by onatisi(m): 6:29am On Jun 29, 2012 |
papa giddy: Most likely the source of the money is fraud or yahoo yahoo for him to allow the banker to deduct 10%. FOR WHAT!!! most banker too encourage yahoo yahoo by selling out reference form or guarantor's form at 10% off the total value.this guy is not telling the whole truth!!! bankers at the customer service table have already signed reference form obtained from unsuspected current account holder in large quantity.That is why u dont my man can i ask u a question pls are u saying that every nigerian living inside nigeria and has someone who want to remit him or her money must first open a bank account by force?what happen to the old woman that has a son who sends her some money and she needs the money urgently and has no account only to be told she needs to have an account b4 collecting her money?do u want her to turn bank or to seek help from bank official or anyone that may help?and if she does .does that action make her a yahoo yahoo too?what u guys are saying is as if u are saying the system is perfect those that formulated this policy themselves know that it will cause some problem for a few honest citizens so dont try to say that because u dont have an account and doesnt want to have one u are a criminal,the poster doesnt want an account and had to get his money by all means. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by afenex(m): 7:48am On Jun 29, 2012 |
After giving the banker 10% bribe u are out here calling him a thieve.Whereas he openly made you understand you cant pick the money without having an account with the bank or have someone with an account sign for you.You are the one who forced the transfer and the banker seeing your desperation decided to get his share by breaking the transfer clause.Simply put,you should had asked anyone around the bank with account there to reference for you.Its being done everyday in the bank and I have signed for people I dont even know.So like a some ppl said here,I think this man has something to hide or he is just being ignorant. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Pukkah: 7:55am On Jun 29, 2012 |
chucky234: I am not sure of you post this in regard to the OP story or another one because y[b]our post is completely riducously[/b],the new rules sales you can cash money from Western Union or Money Gram only at any of branch of the bank you maintain an account with or look for a person who maintain an account with the bank to stand surety for you to cash the money and that the OP did explained in his story. This is one of the reasons some ignorant posters are thoroughly lambasted on this forum. They are ignorant yet they are not aware of the ignorance. So you have become the mouthpiece for the poster? Eh? You chose only a part of my post and labelled it 'completely ridiculous'! Were you too lazy to read all the ones before that and the context? To make matters worse, you are even sure if my post was in regard to the OP story. Na wa o! SMH! What is the name of the poster's bank? Didn't he see any of the branches of his bank while he was going from one bank to the other, ignoring all the advice given to him? Is the problem that the poster does not have an account? Why was he willing to pay for a 'needless' favour? |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Pukkah: 7:59am On Jun 29, 2012 |
onatisi: Yes, of course. You can be made to open an account by 'force' if that is the requirement in the country based on certain antecedents. Is there any country that does not have its own peculiar rules? And really, no one is telling anybody to open an account by 'force' except the person wants to enjoy certain services. By the way, account opening is not the only option and is not rigid. There are other options available which have even been mentioned by a poster or two on this thread. Read over to see them. Still waiting for your answer to my earlier questions: Pukkah: Again, you have exhibited a complete lack of understanding of the poster's story by saying that 'he doesn't want an account and had to get his money by all means'. Are you reading at all? Didn't you see the following? Read again! bilms: |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Pukkah: 8:41am On Jun 29, 2012 |
onatisi: Another question for you, can you please give better ways to 'catching' 'yahoo-yahoo' boys? How come you're not saying anything about the effectiveness of the account ownership rule? I am not surprised anyway because you're even yet to answer my earlier question. The 'old woman' in the village you continue to talk about really has no problem with the new requirements because she has other options; some of which have been earlier highlighted on this thread. Besides, if what it takes to sanitize the entire system and repair the image of Nigeria which was being terribly dented by the unscrupulous 'yahoo-yahoo' boys is some inconvenience on everybody's part then what's the big deal? Do additional freedom and additional security mix well? |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Pukkah: 8:42am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Abimbola29: I A̶̲̥̅♏ also a victim of such A victim of patronizing the back door, not following due process, or malfunctioning ATMs? |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by bilms(m): 8:54am On Jun 29, 2012 |
I am very sorry that it took me this long to reply. I am aware that there are many bankers,brothers and sisters of bankers, aswell as friends of bankers on nl that would do anything to discredit a post such as mine,but don't worry,you can't intimidate me with your ranting and baseless accusation. Most questions being asked by these set of people have already been answered on the first post,but they ignored it willingly or unwillingly and make it seems like it was incorrect,incomplete or incredible. This lead some people to even accuse me of getting the funds from yahoo yahoo or all sort of hidden deals. ok,Lets assume the fund is gotten from a bad deal as you accuse,you, your brother or sister in the banking job are helpers to fraud since they even accept bribe from a hidden deal. Are they helping the bank, the CBN which set up the rules or Nigeria as a country? Instead of us all to condemn what is bad,we justify it because your peeps are involved. Another poster i assume is a banker accuse me trying to add to Nigeria's negative image with such post,but he was wrong, i am only trying to help change that negative image by exposing the bad things to be corrected. as i noted earlier,i am not just posting here,but contacting appropriate authorities to fix this. If a post such as this had been posted on nl,many would have been aware of such and can guide against it, this is the essence of the post. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by bilms(m): 8:56am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Some say i patronized the back door or tried to bit the right channel,but you are all wrong because if you actually read the post as you claimed, you would have seen that none of your claim was close to the truth..The post gave you what lead to what before what. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by bilms(m): 9:21am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Back to the major issue. From the first post, i made it clear how urgent the fund was It all happened this morning,i got a money gram to cash sent from the UK for an urgent assignment. For the urgency of this cash, Because of the urgency i didn't want to go to my bank because it is far away,, for this reason,i decided to branch the nearest bank ETB, At ETB when i got there,i was made to understand they don't cash money gram. I went to the next bank closeby the next bank close to it was spring bank,i went in and asked if they cash money gram and they said yes,but i was asked if i have an account with the bank which i answered no,for his reason,they made me realize they can't cash the money unless i have an account with them. It was at Spring Bank (the second bank i went) that i realized i have to go to my bank. This automatically make me realized i can't help but go to my bank. TO MY BANK OCEANIC NOW ECOBANK Straight to Oceanic bank now Ecobank,they told me they don't cash money gram too,..Someone up there said Ecobank do cash Moneygram and that he cashed some months ago,you may be right, but how was i to insist that a bank Cash Money Gram when the staffs said they don't? It is my bank for over 5 years and they said they don't, what can i do? After Ecobank (My Bank 1) i quickly head to my other bank GTB (bank 2) and they said they don't cash it too...this is the 4th bank i have been to,2 not my bank and the other 2 my bank where i had account,but both said they don't cash moneygram. I made it clear on the post that i was angry and asked why the bank won't be cashing moneygram,At this point, i was so depressed,considering all this hustle. How on earth won't you be cashing money gram i questioned and i was calmed and told to go to UBA bank. ...It was one of the staffs that calmed me down and actually gave me the UBA bank as a place where i can cash the fund. How on earth didn't you guys read this before saying i didn't want to go to my bank? i was trying to go thru the back door? i wanted to bit the rules etc? was it that you didn't read it or u intentionally ignored it?... I accept critical assessment of the post and reasonable question about it,but not such that i was seeing when all you were asking is already part of the first post. Upon reaching the UBA,i meet the guy at the Moneygram counter and i told him i want to cash money gram,he asked if i have an account with them and i replied no,he then said it would be some how cashing without account. I asked why must i have an account to cash money gram in a bank,it is suppose to be a money transfer which can be cashed anywhere,he said yes,but it is some times difficult. He said i should go to my bank or i would pay him something to do it,i said my bank don't cash moneygram and i was directed from there to come here. ..This was my discussion with him,he knew i had been to my bank and could n't cash it because i was actually directed from there to come to UBA.. Remember, i have been previously been to 4 banks without success and i made it clear that the money was needed urgently. I knew that leaving UBA would mean i won't cash it and the fund was needed urgently for an assignment. Some one did ask a very reasonable question which i noted and appreciated,he asked why i didn't insist,but i was in hurry because any delay would mean loosing what the money was meant to be used for,and the money if gotten later would no longer be valued. Another person asked why i patted with 10% since it was meant for an urgent assignment,i also appreciate this question,in fact,this was the kind of question i was expecting before they started all that panapana..As you know,the money is needed urgently,taken 10% from it mean having 90%,business wise,if you pay 90% of the supposed fee would guarantee you what you needed,i do not think it is wise of me to allow such situation prevent the usage of the money. In fact i would have not taken it if i was to be the sole person involved,but i know doing that would mean something that would hurt others who needed what the money was needed for. I had to employ the scope of the scale of preference, chose the most important and urgently needed item. Thanks you all |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Ricoluv(m): 9:46am On Jun 29, 2012 |
POSTER,.MY OPINION IS THIS,.THAT YOU ARE A PERSON OF LOW INTERGRITY, POSSIBLY A FRAUDATER COS IF INDEED THIS WIRED MONEY WAS YOUR'S, THE SAME WAY YOU COMPLAINED TO THE BANKS OVER ATM DISPENSE ERRORS,WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME WAY U SHOULD HAVE COMPLAINED TO THE MANAGER OF THIS BRANCH WHERE YOU CASHED THIS TRANFER. FROM MY EXPERIENCE AS A BANKER, I KNOW THAT INDEED, SOME BANKERS ARE OF QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER AND SUCH PEOPLE USUALLY PREY ON CONMEN LIKE YOU WHO DIVERT OTHER PEOPLES' TRANSFERS. SO AM VERY SURE YOU HAVENT BEEN TOTALLY OPEN OVER WHAT TRANSPIRED BETWEEN YOU AND THE CASHIER..I'M ALSO VERY SURE HE SAW THROUGH YOU AND HAVING SENCED THAT THIS TRANSACTION WAS A "JOB" HE THEN DECIDED TO CASH IN. ANYWAY, YOUR'S IS A CASE OF "CUNNING MAN DIE, CUNNING MAN BURY AM"...NEXT TIME YOU WANT TO THROW MUD PLS MAKE SURE YOUR OWN HANDS ARE CLEAN,.MMMSSHHEEWW!! |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Pukkah: 9:57am On Jun 29, 2012 |
bilms: Back to the major issue. Do you expect discerning people to swallow your story hook, line and sinker? Expect your story to be x-rayed. I've already provided a link to prove that GTBank offers Moneygram services. See the one for Ecobank: http://www.punchng.com/business/business-economy/moneygram-rewards-scholarship-scheme-beneficiaries/ Which GTBank and Ecobank branches did you go? Are you willing to disclose this information so that we can turn the heat on them as to why you were unjustly denied of service? You see, we should be fair to all. You don't expect to come here and make a sweeping, unsubstantiated and damaging allegation against a whole group of people and yet expect to be patted on the back. Of course I've not been trying to excuse the so-called banker at UBA but he was not more guilty than yourself. You were in a hurry and could not comply with the requirements, for whatever reasons, so you agreed to pay him 10% because he offered you a service. He looked for a way for you to meet the requirement. He is unscrupulous but you can't also be exonerated on the basis of 'urgency' reason. You're also guilty. If this case goes to court, do you think both of you would not be prosecuted? Again, just out of curiousity, how much is this 'small' amount of money that was needed for something so urgent that could not wait yet you were willing to let go 10% out of; moreover, the 'small' amount of money could not be taken from either or both of your accounts in GTBank and Ecobank? |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Pukkah: 10:00am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Ricoluv: POSTER,.MY OPINION IS THIS,.THAT YOU ARE A PERSON OF LOW INTERGRITY, POSSIBLY A FRAUDATER COS IF INDEED THIS WIRED MONEY WAS YOUR'S, THE SAME WAY YOU COMPLAINED TO THE BANKS OVER ATM DISPENSE ERRORS,WOULD HAVE BEEN THE SAME WAY U SHOULD HAVE COMPLAINED TO THE MANAGER OF THIS BRANCH WHERE YOU CASHED THIS TRANFER. What an apt summary! ::Andrew::: Another hilarious summary. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by kingPINN(m): 10:27am On Jun 29, 2012 |
@ Pukker, GT does not offer money gram but weetern union. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by othenok(f): 10:33am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Am still trying to understand why you re feeling so self righteous. The cashier told you upfront that it was going to cost you and u willingly agreed. Haba! GiveR & Taker = Same of same |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Nobody: 11:29am On Jun 29, 2012 |
Its a pity it happened to you and its also a pity the criminal minded banker had to do this to you. To start with, it is CBN's policy that to cash Moneygram, Western Union, Coinstar, Money-express and any other cash transfers, you must have an account with the bank you want to cash the money from. However, if u dont have an account with the bank, you can get someone who has an account with the bank to do a third party identification for you. This is to reduce the occurence of fraud relating to Moneygram and western union. Its so unfortunate this has to happen to you. i will advise that you take the matter up officially as the young man wants to rubbish the image of bankers in the public. I am also a banker with Mainstreet bank and even handle all these products. I have never and will never ask my customers to pay a certain percent before i transact for them. This is so sad and i will just appeal to you that you dont judge bankers by the act of just an individual. Please take the matter up officially. it is a breach of the bank policy and a punishable offence. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Pukkah: 2:35pm On Jun 29, 2012 |
@OP, are you ready to take up the matter now? Report to the bank where it happened. |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by Ofuks(m): 5:37pm On Jun 29, 2012 |
@OP and friends: The CBN policy that recipients of money transfers to Nigeria through WUMT & MONEYGRAM must have bank accounts is to enable the authorities follow the trail of yahoo-yahoo guys, terrorists and like minded folks who are hell bent on destroying the image of this country. http://www.cenbank.org/419/ @OP: I am embarrased that you brought this here... |
Re: Bankers Are Frauds! by BAMMZ(m): 7:30pm On Jun 29, 2012 |
Pukkah: |
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