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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 6:57pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Top is Ogidi street, Below is Oba street All in Ogui Enugu. 4 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 6:59pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
biafrandream: Yes, road resurfacing is taking place in Ogui Enugu. 3 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 7:02pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Looking at the urban jungle of Obiagu Enugu, from Oba street Ogui. ![]() 5 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by biafrandream: 7:07pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Guys I find the fences inside Liberty Estate repulsive. Such place does not need internal fencing since the premises has a communal fence. We have become so obsessed with fencing to the level of stupidity. Pls pardon my language. What the estate needs in 24 hour security presence that would monitor the movement of people in and out of the estate. People living there should employ the services of 4-6 security guards instead of employing individual guards. That is how white people create jobs. By security guards, I do not mean Abokis. Our people should be employed. Then they should bring down those internal fences and give space for side walks. The problem with our fences is that they take the place of sidewalks and so residents struggle to walk freely within within their neighbourhood. I look forward to a time when every house in Enugu will not require private fencing, instead neighbourhood fencing will be the order of the day. 3 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 7:20pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
If you go to Ogui Enugu and don't stop over at Emily restaurant, na your fault ![]() ![]() 9 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by mej67: 7:22pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
kmariko: Yea, sure. This is quite smart. Instructive too. We should bring ideas of what we can do as individuals. If you say that and mean we should leave government alone, I say, em em em. Well, should we leave government completely out? And me, ordinary me nwa Omeje begin to exploit coal deposits in Ezimo, Limestone/Cement in Amechi-Idodo, Gas in Ugwuoba and so on? Okay I get the drift -leave government alone... don't even utter a word and let them do whatever they like with our common wealth -like dealing with items that don't come anywhere near the real needs of the people. Perfect! Well, crazy Amaechi once said that those in government steal public funds because we, the public, allow them. Now I am confused. I thought it was global best practice for civilians (civil society) to hold government accountable. In fact before then, help in shaping policies and programmes of government. Now it is clear that I have just been taliking to myself. Ok. Let's leave them 2 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by mej67: 7:28pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
But just before we finally leave them, I give you a case study of two States -Akwa Ibom and Enugu. Of all the differences in their financial status, etc. there is one uniting set of factors. They are States where the incumbents have pursued pipedreams for their people and backed it with heavy meadi blitz. Akwa Ibom -uncommon transformation; Enugu -massive (Enugu) urban infrastructure upgrade. Meanwhile unemployment poverty rates in the States continue to sky-rocket. Elitist -Elitism, you choose. Whats the reward? When it was time to call on the people, the people were on the other side. How come the uncommon transformer is fighting in trenches trying to get a successor in and how come Chime of Enugu is failing woefully in holding an ordinary State Chapter of the Party intact. Go also to Ekiti and find out why a PhD holder sitting governor was upstaged by a man that started as a bus conductor. The choice remains ours 1 Like |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by kmariko: 7:40pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
mej67: You give government the very leverage you complain about when you allow them to be in control of those resources. If you are in control or partly in control with many people under your employment then you have leverage over the government.All it takes is for you to be the Innoson of coal and other resources 2 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by kmariko: 7:57pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
mej67: No here are the choices for the like minds like yours. 1. William Boeing like in Boeing aircraft employs 250,000 people 2. Microsoft as in bill gates employs over 150000 people 3. Toyoda as in Toyota cars employs over 300000 people. The list is too long But the uniting factor is that they created the "common wealth" you are screaming about without the government and now when they sneeze the government listens. You know nothing stops anyone from besting the list above, but first one have to roll up their sleeves and grab the shovel or whatever and get to work with mininal noise. Thanks and be well 3 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by InyinyaAgbaOku(m): 7:59pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
spyder880: I na erikakwanu . |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by mej67: 8:30pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
kmariko: You know quite well that I decided to take it easy with you. Comparing apples to oranges is a crafty tool of disinformation. Nothing, hear me loud, NOTHING, can substitute the role of the State. I was interested in how to better focus the role of State. Mind you, Enugu has an economy that is dominated by State. So better society is much plausible if those in charge of State craft are properly focused and primed to serve the people. Now you have listed American success stories, which are naturally in America that has remained the world no 1 success story. Toyota brand named after the city of Toyota in Japan is agreat success story of Asia's greates success story, Japan. In each of the examples you gave, there is a nexus with a government that is able to carry its own weight. For instance, would you also list out the number of schemes that US Govt has for supporting entrepreneurs and budding entrepreneurs, not venturing into a vibrant venture capitalism sector that basically hunts down upstarts with great idea. An earthquake occured in Japan, destroying major arterial roads and the over 200km road was fixed within a span of 10 days. Your government is still telling stories on East-West Road, Enugu-Onitsha Road, Okigwe Port Harcourt Road, etc. and your solution to it all is leave them alone. Just like we were told then, as biafrans, that we could defeat well-armed federal troops with cutlasses and clubs. Bros, if you were part of Ojukwu's propaganda machine headed then by Chukwumerije with late ace spin doctor radio announver, Okon Okon Ndem, pls say so. But the shocker for you is that it is over 45years dated. It won't work in modern day society. It will help for us to define and agree the role of the State. I do not agree with you that all we need to do is to leave government alone to do what it pleases. That is not what happens in the US. Get your facts right. When we have a thread to discuss individual ingenuity and what people can do with their bare hands, we all head in and bring in beautiful thoughts. Right here, I was of the belief that the nice pics courtesy of goodman Spyder880 could be put in context, in the right frame as a lopsided effort of a team that could have done much better. Now, you won't go far tutoring me or anyone about how to be self reliant. Reason, you sound clearly as a salaried worker and your examples are rusty -why pick the Rockyfellas, the Boeing and Microsoft when you can mention Peace Mass Transit that has over 2,000 buses on different routes all over Nigeria. Who are you trying to intimidate by your google search, eh? Just pack well 1 Like |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 8:57pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Ogui road end, the billboard says the rest......... 5 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Unemadu: 9:00pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
mej67: Pls go and keep your evil partner company on the thread he created. He has been talking to himself ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by kmariko: 9:53pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
mej67: Oh Google, I really forgot about them. Besides the founders, the next richest among them was a university professor who contributed financially to their start up. Hint here. It is not the government .If in doubt ask our very Seun. Seun please how much did the government give you to start this forum?.will make an interesting answer I believe. Last I checked we are a capitalist society. And the role of government IS TO PROVIDE ENABLING ENVIRONMENT..NOT TO FEED YOU. So please stop waiting for government to feed you, because it wasn't meant to...it is not their role to feed you, clothe you or find you a wife or husband. If you really care about the poor in your state. Then start a large company to employ them and stop waiting for someone to do it for you. 5 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 9:57pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
spyder880:Sh*ts are in everywhere in Enugu! I don't know how those represent the pride of the East! BLEH! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 9:59pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
spyder880:Is it true there are cannibals in Enugu? I am curious to know. Thank you. |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by spyder880(m): 10:27pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Holy Rosary College, Uwani Enugu. 7 Likes
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Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 10:32pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
spyder880:What is going on in Enugu? That everywhere has to look dusty and dirty. Huh! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by B2mario(m): 10:49pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
OkijaAmaka: my dear i love this, if all of us can think like this then what's the problem of some states being superior to others. My stand has always be that all Igbos are equal irrespective of the state you come from. |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by B2mario(m): 10:53pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
liberty300: Your post is as truth as it's said 1 Like |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by B2mario(m): 10:58pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
EASTVIEW:. You've not been to the 2cities in recent time, bro Abakiliki is far better everybody knows he truth even right inside you. Though Obiano has good agenda for Anambra but lets wait till he actualises them. |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by B2mario(m): 11:10pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
OdenigboAroli: Look at the real enemies attracting more enmity to themselves, your problem is pride due to some perceived greatness which are not real. Don't 4get that the same scripture you incited also states that pride goes before a fall. Still be hovering in 'Aqua' of pride. 1 Like |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by PROUDIGBO(m): 11:16pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
spyder880: ^^^I think that street wasn't spelt right! I should have been 'Ogunbiyi'! ![]() |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by B2mario(m): 11:20pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Kasyn: ![]() |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by PROUDIGBO(m): 11:25pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
biafrandream: ^^^My own bugbear has more to do with the lack of sidewalks than walls/fencing! In some streets they have extra-large roads with open gutters on either side......with just a little more money, they could have constructed underground drainage with pavements on top! Anything worth doing is worth doing well! 1 Like |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Unemadu: 11:51pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
all4naija: Ibadan boy! Hows ur hood ![]() |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 11:53pm On Dec 06, 2014 |
Unemadu:I don't live in the hood! Ibadan is a Nigerian city and it is not different from other cities there. |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Unemadu: 12:00am On Dec 07, 2014 |
all4naija: Ok, Ibadan boy, how are u ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 12:04am On Dec 07, 2014 |
Unemadu:I am not feeling good looking at the images on this thread. They are ruining my eyes! Jeez! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by mej67: 12:06am On Dec 07, 2014 |
kmariko: When I was discussing expanding the economy, I was talking about the role of State, and not for me to be fed. I was precisely discussing the 'environment' -the enabling environment, Sir. There is a fundamental flaw in your pitch and I fear it may not be fixed b'cos I read you as a theorist. For the umpteenth time, we allow the State to drift when we fail as a people in the role of civil society in shaping government action. We cannot leave them alone. We have to be part of policy debates, public presentation of draft statutes, public finance and appropriation reviews, etc. That is is how it works best. In your first post, you said you failed to see the most essential ingredient being the role of the individual (You and I). I left it because it was unfortunate that you failed to see it in the ensuing act of engaging in debates that is capable of transforming public policy. If we had progressed to discuss rural development, perhaps the next commissioner for rural development could pick a few points. But you chose to debate out of context. That is what, in the olden days, was termed op. Now op, especially here means original poster. I actually meant the old "out of point" Now if you wish to switch the discussion to how individuals can excel, fine, but it is a different topic and I would most likely take a different pitch than asking Enugu kids to emulate Ford or George Soros when we lack the enabling investment plank form. With hope that you will retool and refocus on what will be beneficial to very many, can we now discuss "the role of government which IS TO PROVIDE ENABLING ENVIRONMENT". Or would you, in your usual character, say it is entirely up to me? Retool and the discussion will become useful. How can government perform its role, which is, to provide the right environment for private enterprise to thrive? How can next government in Enugu State improve the overall competitiveness of the State in the global market place? And lets see whether the answer will be macadamized thoroughfare and patachy, overpriced made in China traffic lights basically dumped on hapless ignorant people whom you wish to continue to be ignorant so that the fleecing of our commonly owned wealth will continue endlessly. |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 12:25am On Dec 07, 2014 |
mej67:I lost strength to reply you after reading your posts because you keep roving. But to give you the appropriate psychotic pills, I decided to reply you. Don't think I've forgotten who you are. You're a die-hard loyalist of chimaroke nnamani, and any thing positive from sullivan chime gives serious palpitations. If Chime was an average nigerian politician, with his power of incumbency, he would tear enugu apart and frustrate Ekweremadu, after been denied senatorial seat. Politics has never been cool in enugu as it is in the last 8years, we all know how it was during chimaroke's government. We are not appreciating chime's government for only infrastructure but also for non-infrastructural changes he's made in enugu state. Some of your posts has minutes of sense but your bitter heart will not allow you present them in a manner that will incite constructive discussion. Like someone said earlier on, government provide enabling environment for investors, that's the way forward for nigeria. Where is nipost, nitel, nigercem, anamco?? Now, compare those companies to DHL, MTN, ibeto and innoson that are privately owned. Chime is not a fool for the direction he took, he clearly knows what he is doing for the state. And by time the merits of his 4 point agenda start coming, you would have forgotten him. I bolded that part of your post because I want to bring to your notice that I don't engage people that resort to insult. You've insulted a lot of people on this thread, you are lucky to be replied, 'cause we usually hold down our ignore button for people like you. Desist from insults and have a civilised discussion, that's what we do here. We say the wrongs and most time proffer solutions. No one said chime is an angel or enugu is now london or free of problems, but we appreciate what see, commend conscious effort been made by chime's administration, keep hope alive, and believe that we can still have a politician close, in qualities, to those we see in countries with advanced democracy. Read eaglechild and cjrane post again, this time, slowly and think deeper into what they posted, cheers! eaglechild: cjrane: 5 Likes |
Re: Enugu, The Pride Of The East. by Nobody: 12:51am On Dec 07, 2014 |
Spyder880, thanks a million for the pictures. Please, spyder, there's a spot opposite IMT gate, at the hill top, facing the liberty estate and also facing IMT, you can get aerial views of enugu. I enjoy those views whenever I pass there. I think your fans here will love it too. ![]() 2 Likes |
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