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Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by livingstoneony(m): 3:28pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
faithin9ja: tell his aZz... |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by chucky234(m): 4:03pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
This post is rubbish and total waste of MB, your points are completely baseless. The media and internet has always been part of life in western world and has nothing to do with how children fare because every child's behaviour is the reflection of the parents attitude,all it takes is healthy upbringing culture. The first beauty pageant in the US took place in 1932 and has since become an annual event,the American,European and Indian movie industry peaked as early as late 30s but that has not stop Oxford,Harvard and other universites from producing top scientist,engineers,zoologist e.t.c As a kid my father was working for an America company in the then South West Ikoyi and we had a satellite connected from the main building to our building in the staffs quarters. Asia and Europe has more football fans and followers than Nigeria or Africa put together yet that has not stop the Asian from producing high-tech technicians and engineers that has become the back bone of the European and American economies. In American and European countries they have many television and pay satellite channels since 1930s and that's why we can watch clips of events that took place far back as 1930 one of which is the first world cup hosted by Uruguay in 1930 and Olympics in 1932. Nigeria only embrace the internet in 2002 the same year GSM was introduced into the country why multichoice (DSTV) started selling in Nigeria few years after but 7 years after people are attributing the poor academic performances of their wards to the media. The first television station station and radio station in Nigeria came on board in 1994 while same cannot be said of American and European countries who have been enjoying those things way back,I remember watching Bill Cosby's family show in our TVs via my dad's company satellite wired to our house and that was far before the first TV station was launched in Nigeria. The issue of abbreviation is also baseless because we have different form of communication each having their rules,in a formal communication its a crime to abbreviate words like You to 'u',alright to "AIIT",Love to "luv" but that cannot be said of informal communication where all forms of abbreviation are allowed as long as the receiver of the information understands what each abbreviated word stands for. Such abbrevated words has been in use in western word since the begining of time but that has not in any way affected their writing skills,all states in US had their names abbrevated for easy use by her citizenry and you have New York (NYC),Maryland (MD),Miami (MI) e.t.c Thousands of people are musicians and dancers in America and Europe in an industry that date way back,Nigeria music industry is just evolving and the good thing is that 70% of them are graduates. In a nation with high unemployment rate such talent should be encouraged and combine with education,we have more educated and intelligent people today than in the 80s and 90s as more and more people are previlaged to go to school today. My advice is that parents should nurture a healthy parenting culture so they can be able to pilot their childre's future effectively and positively,media and internet shouldn't be an excuse when parents fail. 4 Likes |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Nobody: 4:17pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
cap28: Mossad's best weapon. It is really working. Even our so called African leaders are under the spell. One of the reasons Putin is hated in the west but loved in his homeland is because he knows all their tricks. He was/is a KGBite. Our people don't know how powerful using the media to control the mind can be. Just like Fela sang. Zombies....... |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Tropilo(m): 5:17pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
@Faithin9ja: Your very first word in reply was "Rubbish". Apparently, trashing the OP's entire write-up and observations. The body of your post did not even take critical look of his obversations. You are all in defense of the very clear wrong things he observed. You concluded by saying "the world is changing." Ofcourse the world is changing, but is it for the better? I don't think so. So wrong spelling of words, kids aspiring for lesser academic levels is part of the world "changing"? Hmmm nawa o! |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by jpphilips(m): 5:32pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
chucky234: This post is rubbish and total waste of MB, your points are completely baseless. much as i agree with the context of ur write up but some info in ur post is misleading. Verify the year Nigeria launched its first tv station because i watched NTA in the 80's. Multichoice was not launched after 2002, it was there in the 90's with the white 1.3m dish perhaps the change to DSTV may be recent, pls verify those facts. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by isalegan2: 5:43pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
cap28: Hook me up as well. cap28: isale gan !!how you dey? Good, Blood! where have you been? I've been here. Just missing each other, I guess. I saw your battle with Katsumoto a few weeks ago. lol. You're 2 of my all-time favourite NLers, so take it easy o. I bet you two have more you agree on than what draws you apart. But, I enjoyed the 'debate' sha. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Gerrard59(m): 5:59pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
I think bros chuks deserves a crate of star. Nice one. S.korea kids play game very well,yet S.korea is very developed than Nigeria. Always throwing the blame at the youths. As if the wahala in the con3 is caused by the youth. OBJ na youth? |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Sunnystooth(m): 6:27pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
Poster |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by olumidazz: 8:41pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
Education is different from information, universities churning out half baked graduates, standard of education dwindling, yet some of these same universities denied accreditation produced over 1000 first class graduates, how on earth do we juxtapose this? |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by elcatino: 9:56pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
guyy, d one wey vex me pass na all dis reality shows wey no dey realistic in nature......mtscheeeeeeew ;Dguyy, d one wey vex me pass na all dis reality shows wey no dey realistic in nature......mtscheeeeeeew |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by samkoro: 9:58pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
faithin9ja: REPLY TO FAITHIN9JA Blacks in the united states are strategicaly relegated to sports and entertainment.Majority of black kids dream to be sports or entertainment celebrities.Sports and entertainment are not wrong,as professions but could be of no real value relative to the socio economic status of a society.That is to say that,at our level of developement as a nation we should wisely and strongly embrace the culture of science,technology,critical thinking,fine arts ,manufacturing,modern agriculture,research.These are the real sectors that will move our nation forward.Entertainment will not make us a world power,it can only help us maintain our blood pressures,if the economy is good.look at Jamaica Multinationals that sponsor talent shows do not want the black man to think abt science and technology-the pillar of civilization and power 1 Like |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by SisiKill1: 10:14pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
I can not believe someone actually said TALENT IS THE ENEMY OF PROGRESS!! It is not the facebooks and the twitters and the blackberries that will ruin our society, it is people who think like that who will destroy it. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by blacklion(m): 10:21pm On Jul 07, 2012 |
chucky234: This post is rubbish and total waste of MB, your points are completely baseless. Interesting argument but you do not address the observation by some posters that in the current global economic recession, the only countries that seem to be doing well are those which emphasize the 'hard skills' (maths, science, technology) and actually make stuff - Germany and China. Whereas those that in recent decades emphasized the financial and creative industries (IT, finance, media/entertainment etc) seem about to be relegated to the category of second tier economies. BTW I think we are going through more than just another economic recession. This looks like a fundamental re-alignment of the global economic structure towards the Far East with perhaps Germany re-confirmed as top dog in Europe and US/Canada increasingly marginal. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by dasparrow: 1:36am On Jul 08, 2012 |
cap28: I Cap28, you are one of the few forumites I respect on nairaland because you are always on point with your posts and you express my sentiments to the 'T'. I started noticing what the western media is all about several years ago. I then suddenly stopped watching television though I kept paying for cable. One day, I just decided it is waste of money and disconnected my cable and gave away my TV. The other day, my neighbor was asking me if I would like a television for free. I told her 'NO, I don't watch crappy TV programming anymore'. The most frustrating thing is that most of our people are not enlighthened. They are not aware that the reason they are in abject poverty is not only because of poor leadership but also because we have sell outs for leaders who dance to the tune of the IMF and world bank. Migrating to the western world does not always help matters either because rascism and downright in-your-face bigotry will leave you working your fingers to the bones for peanuts sometimes. America for instance has succeeded in enslaving most of her citizens and residents in debt, all kinds of debt. From credit card debt to college loan debts, to car debts to mortgage debts, you name it. The other day, I was reading on yahoo how many american college graduates cannot start a family of their own because they are in $60,000 or $70,000 or more in college loan debts. It's a worrisome situation. Signs of the end times. 2 Likes |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Burrito(f): 3:05am On Jul 08, 2012 |
Gudintent: me 2! How very ironic. Not only will you survive the New World order, you'll probably lead the pack |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by chiefbatiatus(m): 9:45am On Jul 08, 2012 |
@ Cap28, I don't know why you are so full of crap? This is the second worthless argument you are advancing, please ladies and gentlemen, the whites are not our problem, america and britain have nothing to do with the evils bedeviLling us oh! Sani abacha that looted more than any west african leader in history was he a friend to america? Babangida the grand destroyer of our economy how many times have you heard him speak good of america? Is farouk Lawan an american? The director in pension office that stole close to 100 billion -alh sani teidi is he american? -Infact as a neighbor I know him to be anti-western right from time! When NECO was created with an aim of diluting the standard who were the sponsors? Are they americans? All the oil companies caught looting our subsidy is there an american there? Are u aware the american govt has already jailed their nationals involved in the haliburton scandal while the nigerians involved are still part of the lawmakers and governors? Whatever you are reading or whatever association that is leading u towards crappy statements then you better beware cap28 |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Woke4all(m): 9:46am On Jul 08, 2012 |
Nice topic |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by jpphilips(m): 10:07am On Jul 08, 2012 |
doe-eyed: i was seeing my dad twice in a whole week, little influence from mumsy cos it was a male dominated set up. All we needed to study was a competition to take first from the champion of the class whom by occupying the position has become an enemy to the lot. I have not forgotten in 1990 during our end of year, a boy was wailling because he came second with an average score of 98 percent can u beat that? He cried worse than the guy s that failed. That was the spirit in those days. The poster forgot that self control, peer influence are all functions of intelligence that needs the genes to be the deciding factor. Most parents now are very dull and i dont expect better from their kids. 1 Like |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Azumy(f): 10:18am On Jul 08, 2012 |
cap28: OP you are so on point (excuse the pun)the fact that you have recognised that something is wrong tells me that you are very observant and intelligent.thumbsup you are so on point! I got captivated |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by oc2fish: 11:57am On Jul 08, 2012 |
Growing up is challenging for the youth they are bundle to school even b4 they can call Daddy they transfered from one teacher to another and hardly giving the oppturnity to grow up. i pity Lagos kid who wake up 4am and sleep 10pm for five days a week. I know we can eat our cake and still have it. As a kid growing up we have time to grow up, play street football, sleep well and learn from our mother but we do not have that now. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by oc2fish: 12:16pm On Jul 08, 2012 |
@Cap28, Please stop blaming others for our fault our leaders refuse to develop the country when they have the oppturnity and all you can do is to blame some one elese. The leaders failed us and because of the current issue (Faruok Gate) they have lost the remaining trust we all know that all of them are looking for ways to defraud Nigerian by one way or the other. The tarriost of this wourld normally give this kind of reason killing innocent people while American value the life of her citizen. MR CAP28 PLEASE BEWARE OF TERRIOR GROUP CONTACTING YOU BECAUSE OF THIS LEVEL OF HATE. Nigerian leaders caused our problem and not America or Europe 1 Like |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Nobody: 2:48pm On Jul 08, 2012 |
dasparrow: You are very right. They are indebted for life. What a Giant ponzi scheme. It will soon bust. A very big problem on the horizon. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by cap28: 7:22pm On Jul 08, 2012 |
dasparrow: My brother thanks for your kind comments. Have you read a book called Propaganda by a jewish american author by the name of Edward Bernays? If not try reading it - here is a quote from him: "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons...who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind." This man is regarded as the father of public relations , he regarded the masses with contempt and felt that they were so ignorant and s.tupid that they needed to be controlled by an elite group who could use propaganda to manipulate and control them (television), the western media is based on his ideology which preys on the ignorance, irrationality and s.tupidity of the vast majority of americans and europeans who are content to follow without asking questions. Many americans and europeans have been programmed and indoctrinated to hate certain groups of people (blacks) without knowing why - the media controls the vast majority of the western populations who are 100% dependent on the television and newspapers for information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays#Propaganda the elite who run america and europe are intent on turning back the clock to the 19th century when higher education was only accessible to rich property owners (slave owners) we are now in an era of what is known as post industrialisation of the western world - ie a period where industry is either being dismantled or shipped abroad to south east asia and being replaced by the service sector ie banking, IT, legal services. what you said about student loans in america is absolutely true - have you seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxqWDsbjAzQ college education in the western world is a massive scam which is being used to bankrupt the vast majority of students who will graduate with the kind of debt that they will never ever be able to pay off in their lifetime. The truth of the matter is that the western world has run out of ideas, their economies are bankrupt, for how long can you continue to print money in order to keep your economy afloat? The handwriting is on the wall. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by cap28: 8:05pm On Jul 08, 2012 |
chief batiatus: @ Cap28, I don't know why you are so full of crap? This is the second worthless argument you are advancing, please ladies and gentlemen, the whites are not our problem, america and britain have nothing to do with the evils bedeviLling us oh! Sani abacha that looted more than any west african leader in history was he a friend to america? Babangida the grand destroyer of our economy how many times have you heard him speak good of america? Is farouk Lawan an american? The director in pension office that stole close to 100 billion -alh sani teidi is he american? -Infact as a neighbor I know him to be anti-western right from time! When NECO was created with an aim of diluting the standard who were the sponsors? Are they americans? All the oil companies caught looting our subsidy is there an american there? Are u aware the american govt has already jailed their nationals involved in the haliburton scandal while the nigerians involved are still part of the lawmakers and governors? Whatever you are reading or whatever association that is leading u towards crappy statements then you better beware cap28 You are very ignorant and i will not spend too much time on you. Who is responsible for stealing over 90% of our able bodied men, women and children in order to develop their own economies? who is responsible for carving africa up and appropriating our natural resources? Was any african country present at the negotiation table of the Berlin Conference of 1885? You are a brain washed fool with zero knowledge and understanding of where you came from and where you are headed. Sani Abacha's crimes pale into insignificance when measured alongside the crimes of slavery, colonialism and neo colonialism perpetrated by the people whose arses you are intent on licking. If you can, try and work out in your small mind why Babangida was elevated into the corridors of power despite the fact that he was known to the western powers as a prolific drug baron, Abacha's supposed misrule was nothing compared to the tragedy of Babangida and later Obasanjo. Have you any idea of how badly Babangida and Obasanjo destroyed the economy of nigeria? Have you any idea of the billions of dollars that Obasanjo transferred into the hands of western banks and multinationals under the guise of debt repayment? If these europeans and americans were your friends as you think , how come they allow these nigerian leaders to stash away billions of stolen money in their banks, do you have any idea how easy it is for western nations to trace stolen money? do you think that obasanjo, ibb and ibori could stash their money in these foreign banks with out the collusion of foreign govts? See how easy it was for them to seize and freeze Ibori's loot - why havent't they done the same thing with Ibb and Obasanjo's loot - do you think they dont know where it is? YOu sound very naive - halliburton is a criminal organisation owned and run by criminals - how come di.ck cheney the chief executive of halliburton is not behind bars in america? all the main culprits who were implicated in the nigerian halliburton scandal are walking the streets of america today while the low level nobodies aka fall guys have been forced to take the rap. Obasanjo was the main facillitator of the halliburton bribes but continues to be worshipped as an elder statesman in nigerian today, the reason he remains a free man is because he is still selling out his own country to the americans and europeans, the day he stops doing that and develops a conscience is the day he will be demonised and thrown to the dogs by the western powers, they have done it to so many former accomplices who turned against them eg Manuel Noriega of Panama - served over 30 years in a Miami jail after refusing to grant concessions to US companies in Panama, Saddam Hussein - eliminated by america after trying to sell iraqi oil in euro instead of dollars, qadaffi - trying to create african single currency and sell oil in african currency rather than us dollar, mugabe - giving land stolen by british govt back to zimbabwean indigenes - the list goes on. Keep being bamboozled by their tricks and lies - Mobutu looted over $32 billion from his country and was kept in office by the americans and belgians for 32 years, Omar Bongo of Gabon looted billions from his people and was kept in office by France for a mind boggling 42 years until his death, now his son has taken over the mantle of power, do you hear any western nation criticising this? Keep being a fool. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by cap28: 8:16pm On Jul 08, 2012 |
Azumy: thumbsup you are so on point! I got captivated thank you |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by cap28: 8:21pm On Jul 08, 2012 |
oc2fish: @Cap28, Please stop blaming others for our fault our leaders refuse to develop the country when they have the oppturnity and all you can do is to blame some one elese. The leaders failed us and because of the current issue (Faruok Gate) they have lost the remaining trust we all know that all of them are looking for ways to defraud Nigerian by one way or the other. The tarriost of this wourld normally give this kind of reason killing innocent people while American value the life of her citizen. I will continue to beleive that ignorance is the root of all evil and stu.pidity in this world. It is not by force to keep tapping away at a keyboard when you are ill equipped with information to back up what you are typing about. Who told you that the american govt value the life of their citizens? Are you aware that many american citizens beleive that their govt was responsible for 9/11? try googling "operation northwoods" - a plot by the US govt to kill their own citizens and then blame it on Fidel Castro of Cuba in order to justify a subsequent invasion of cuba - sound familiar? |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by nipeks001(m): 8:50pm On Jul 08, 2012 |
apocalypse:I don't know why pple like been disrespected,well i will reserve my comment |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by nipeks001(m): 9:00pm On Jul 08, 2012 |
pauloman:so you think you've made your point.I will try as much as possible not to be abusive.I was just trying to say that there are many other ways you can correct them rather than failing them or do you think they will change by failing them,this students dont even get to see their script,so how is failing them going to make them change. Their are many ways they can be corrected other than failng,failing students does not have any positive effect but rather some negative effect like female selling their bodies to get mark or males joining cults |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by jpphilips(m): 4:50pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
tete7000: don't mind the poster, failed parents want to hide behind technological advancement to shield their failure. @ cap 28 i tell you what, America is too busy to bother their head with Nigerian youths whose parents by default have "zombied" their well being through poor parenting. who are these kids that the poster is blaming DSTV and black berry for their woes? the same kids that sit tight in air conditioned cars on traffic every morning looking obese and over fed, that cannot even take proper 3 steps without staggering? armed to the teeth with different sizes of food flask even as teenagers? how do you expect such pet of a child to be useful? this is a child that most likely has failed the previous term and the parents still treat him like a king, why wont he fail again? during our time, you will only have the privilege of going to school in popsy's Peugeot 504 or mumsy's Volkswagen beetle if you make an average score of 70% and above. anything short of that is trekking for the rest of the term. i can still recall vividly when i registered for jss1 at 11yrs, i was given directions to travel to another state to register my self in my new school, i thought i was alone in the world not until i got there to see 3 of my primary school mates who equally came on their own, a hand full of other boys who came with parents, the school being so kind registered us first before the ones that came with their parents so we wont stay long in the queue on that sunny afternoon, that was our own days which i am very proud of, liken it to what is obtainable today. both parents will clear their schedule because a son of 22 years is sitting for Jamb exam, after the stup!d "write well we are with you" hugs outside, the "pet" of a son is escorted into the exam hall armed with two different status mercenaries. on the right flank is a university undergraduate while on the left is a polytechnic undergraduate after spending millions giving him different models of private tutors and cash to "sort" his way out in case of emergency. should we not be ashamed? how can such a son make it in life? how do you expect him to be useful? during our days we are told that matriculation was a step to the big world, i can recall when i gained admission into the university, my popsy bought me a gold Rolex wristwatch (still in my collection till date) and that was all, when i mentioned matriculation, he said it is easier to enter but graduating with a good grade is only worth celebrating, that he owes me convocation not matric. i accepted my faith and moved on. conversely, our present day parents are a total waste, a son that could not pass jamb on 5 sittings is escorted with a cultural dance, orchestra, fan fare to a private university where the parents spend almost a million bucks to buy admissions for them. in a very colorful ceremony, the waste of a son is deposited with his block head in the arms of the school authorities, tell me, why wont such a child join cult? knowing fully well he has the support of his parents if anything goes wrong. today, parents encourage their kids to give birth at home with impunity while still under their control, in our days, an attempt to sleep with a man under your father's roof is outright disowning let alone coming back with fruit of recklessness. parents no longer frown at having sons and daughters that were rusticated for improper conduct from the school, they go home and tell their wards that they had a problem and that is the end, parents will immediately mobilize resources to start looking for another admission. A 25 year old son (an over grown baby elephant) comes home to demand 400k for books and the modern parents will oblige without even asking questions or even making an attempt to verify the veracity of the stories sold to them,5 yrs on he comes back as a drug addict or armed robber. why wont he have a gun? when your cavalier as a parent has already paid for one. then you take him for "deliverance" in a celestial church. during our time, popsy will write to the school with his official letter head demanding for your previous year result,required text books and school fees for the next academic year from the school admin, paste it on his reading table, for every demand you make at home, there will be a cross reference of what he has with the story you are selling, God help you if there is any discrepancy.the list is endless it is a shame!! the modern parents have failed woefully. it is the senseless decisions taken by the modern parents that marooned the future of their kids, DSTV can never take the fall. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Skii(m): 6:03pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
Cap28, abeg softly softly, before they locate you and ..... Just by the side, could I hear your thoughts on KONY and the Wiki leaks guy? If you don't mind? |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by Nobody: 6:05pm On Jul 09, 2012 |
jp philips:well said. |
Re: Sad Facts About Modern Family Life by silica(m): 7:29am On Jul 16, 2012 |
doublecross: parents are not supposed to be blamed. you all should put the blame on the society. the parents have to clear bills. the whole problem lies on the society and a very week governing policy. Our Governments are a bunch of trash.You are obviously one of the teenagers we are worried about. We should blame society and not parents abi? So who is this society? If parents are not part of the society then who is? Its people like you who prefer to blame others rather than take responsibility for your action or inaction.....such persons never do well |
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