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Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by mukina2: 12:03pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Nigerian regulators are demanding Royal Dutch Shell pays $5 billion in fines for environmental damage caused by last year’s oil spill at its offshore Bonga field. Shell says there is no legal basis for the fine. http://rt.com/business/news/shell-angry-over-demands-to-pay-huge-fine-for-oil-spill-in-nigeria-455/ |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Okijajuju1(m): 12:05pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Huh?! |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by 2sexy(m): 12:12pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Okija_juju: Huh?! stupid company.... would they try this in their own country? |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by kandiikane(m): 12:36pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Lol, that fine too kai but really shell needs to pay out. The damages needs to be looked at properly and the exact amount for those damages should be given not random numbers someone picked out for each barrel. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Tsmooth1(m): 1:02pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
No comment! |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by ifihearam: 2:46pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Who receives the money?? |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Afam4eva(m): 2:58pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Shell has the power to do anything because they've paid politicians the money bthat's supposed to accrue to the affected communities. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by stepo707: 2:58pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Pergrace: 3:06pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
ifihearam: Who receives the money??Am asking the same question too.. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by funshybam(m): 3:18pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
just like NCC collected BILLIONS from TELECOM SERVICE PROVIDERS *ON OUR BEHALF* ... With the cheated suscribers getting nothing @ NIGERIA WE HAIL THEE |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by ebamma(m): 3:41pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
this oil producing communities villagers collude with oil bunkerers to break pipelines so that the can siphon fuel and thereafter will blame it on shell. 1 Like |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Nobody: 3:47pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
afam4eva: Shell has the power to do anything because they've paid politicians the money bthat's supposed to accrue to the affected communities. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by thomasjohn: 3:48pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
before you jump to conclusion read this and judge for yourself, and besides at d end of the day where do the fines go to? [size=14pt]Shell angry at $5 bln fine demanded for spill in Nigeria[/size] 18 July, 2012, 14:06 Nigerian regulators are demanding Royal Dutch Shell pays $5 billion in fines for environmental damage caused by last year’s oil spill at its offshore Bonga field. Shell says there is no legal basis for the fine. The fine would be the largest Shell has ever received in Nigeria and is about $125,000 for each barrel of oil split in the Bonga field, about 120 kilometers off the coast. The spill which was probably the worst in the area for a decade, occurred on December 20, 2011 and according to estimates less than 40,000 barrels, or 1.68 million gallons were released. "We do not believe there is any basis in law for such a fine. Neither do we believe that SNEPCo (Shell Nigeria Exploration and Production Co) has committed any infraction of Nigerian law to warrant such a fine," said the oil company. By contrast, BP is facing a maximum fine of $4,300 per barrel in the US following the Gulf of Mexico spill, when oil had been gushing out of the well into the water at a rate of 10,000 to 30,000 barrels a day for almost a year, resulting in a an estimated leak of 206 million gallons. The National Oil Spill Detection and Response Agency (NOSDRA) said the Nigerian spill was caused by a failure in Shell's export pipe, saying that the spilled oil badly affected approximately 950 square kilometers of water surface and a great number of sensitive environmental resources. "It has a direct social impact on the livelihood of people in the river areas whose primary occupation is fishing," the NOSDRA agency maintained. Shell said last December's an oil spill occurred when a tanker was loading oil, leading to the complete shutdown of the company's 200,000 barrel per day production at the Bonga facility. Bonga accounts for around 10% of monthly oil flows from OPEC member Nigeria, the continent's largest exporter of crude oil. Production restarted in January. Oil spills are often onshore in Nigeria with many caused by sabotage or thieves tapping into easily accessible pipelines. Several communities have taken Shell to court over a failure to clean up spills. A United National Environment Programme report last year said Shell was not doing enough to clean up spills and maintenance of the infrastructure was inadequate. http://rt.com/business/news/shell-angry-over-demands-to-pay-huge-fine-for-oil-spill-in-nigeria-455/ |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Nobody: 3:58pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Shell pay d money. No waste time. If you no spoil awa land, i no go come live for this silly VGC |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by str8talk1: 4:24pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
I didnt expect less 4rm Shell. Y? our rulers hv sold dia souls 4 money,so dey r just talking out of coma. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Nobody: 5:30pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Where are SHELL advocates and vindicators on Nairaland? I have been going against Shell failures to see their deadly impact on the Niger-delta region. It saddens me to see those with half-baked evidences coming here to support the oil company position, to deplete and degrade the environment of the region with their poor environmental practices. SHELL needs to leave that region alone and may come back until they are ready to change their poor environmental practices.And, they must be made to pay heavily on the damages done so far. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by friedrice1: 5:38pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
if the money can be paid directly to the locals affected by the spill.. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Beloved2real: 5:43pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
It is very sad that no good news exists in this country of ours more than corruption,bribery , scandal and cyphoning and other vices of crafty means.Therefore,an argument over the discourse is not called for and the Shell company must go for the damages. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Nobody: 6:29pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
I have followed the Bonga FPSO 'disaster' (even if no one wants to accord it this status) closely and I must say that the environmental as well as socio-economic impact makes me cry within - it is Disastrous to say the least and a shame to Nigeria as a country and disgrace to Shell's corporate governance and responsibility. Hence, in as much as the spill was colossal, I cannot help but wonder where and how did the FG and its 'relevant environmental agencies' arrive at this bizzare amount of 5billion dollars. Certainly Shell can claim that there is no legal basis as the FG has left the planning, response and recovery processes of spillage to the multinationals. The main problem here is simple, not only is the sum irrational and conflicting with the FG having a vested interest in the regulation and operation of the oil industry without an 'independent' institution, there is no Scientific correlation between the spillage and the damages to our environmental resources. Until we begin to tackle this vehemently and collectively, not waiting for the UNDP and international organizations to prepare for us the first and comprehensive (scientific) report on the Environmental Assessment of Ogoniland and beyond, we won't make a headway in managing spills especially of this magnitude. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by gbengalite(m): 6:57pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
By contrast, BP is facing a maximum fine of $4,300 per barrel in the US following the Gulf of Mexico spill, when oil had been gushing out of the well into the water at a rate of 10,000 to 30,000 barrels a day for almost a year, resulting in a an estimated leak of 206 million gallons. This is just last week..... So i believe we too should take a precisive step |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by debosky(m): 7:28pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
Is there a legal basis for the fine? How did NOSDRA arrive at that figure? Or are they disputing the quantity of oil spilled as reported by Shell? In other countries there are set out penalties for each barrel of oil spilled, along with further penalties if gross negligence is established as a cause of the spill. Furthermore, any damages that occurred as a result of the spill would also be quantified in order to seek financial compensation. It would be useful to understand the basis for the $5bn fine - simply mentioning a big figure isn't good enough. This is what was said in the National Assembly: The Director-General of the National Oil Spill Detection and Response Agency (NOSDRA), Dr Peter Idabor, said while appearing before the House of Representatives Committee on Environment last week that the amount represented “administrative penalty” prompted by the environmental impact of large quantity of the oil spilled from Shell’s Bonga facility. Idabor said the regulatory agency was guided in reaching that decision in line with international best practices in the oil and gas industry, saying it was in tandem with what was obtainable in oil producing countries like as Venezuela, Brazil and the United States of America (USA). Administrative penalty of $5bn for a 40,000 bbl spill? Like I said, the basis for such a claim would be a good starting point. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Nobody: 7:33pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
debosky: Is there a legal basis for the fine? How did NOSDRA arrive at that figure? Or are they disputing the quantity of oil spilled as reported by Shell?Right. Should that now be an excuse for the multinational negligence and poor practices for years to destroy the Niger-delta? |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by thomasjohn: 7:58pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
gbengalite: By contrast, BP is facing a maximum fine of $4,300 per barrel in the US following the Gulf of Mexico spill, when oil had been gushing out of the well into the water at a rate of 10,000 to 30,000 barrels a day for almost a year, resulting in a an estimated leak of 206 million gallons. u are grossly misinformed, u cant even differentiate between a spill and a leak? is there a difference? and who told you it happened last week? BP Warrants Cautious Stance As 2010 Spill Risk Remains http://seekingalpha.com/article/729741-bp-warrants-cautious-stance-as-2010-spill-risk-remains |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by texazzpete(m): 9:07pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
2sexy: Did BP not record a spill off the coast of the US? The article makes it clear that the spill was not deliberate... |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Nobody: 9:10pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
texazzpete:We are talking of the poor practices. Not spillage due to ring explosion. Don't just go there to compare the bad environmental practices indulge by Shell in Nigeria to BP mishap/accident in the Gulf of Mexico. The air pollution in the Niger-delta is enough testament to that. There are no good records of cleanup done by Shell after spillages. |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by thomasjohn: 9:15pm On Jul 18, 2012 |
all4naija: We are talking of the poor practices. Not spillage due to ring explosion. Don't just go there to compare the bad environmental practices indulge by Shell in Nigeria to BP mishap/accident in the Gulf of Mexico. The air pollution in the Niger-delta is enough testament to that. hear urself, who will spend money to get crude out of the ground so he can just discharge it into d environment? Alot of ppl hav so much hatred for IOCs, nd i dnt know why, same ppl keep on praising our clueless govt. u think IOCs ar ran like ur clueless govt? 1 Like |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by pomporiking: 1:11am On Jul 19, 2012 |
Pls dis militants shud come bak joor..na only jungle justice fit work 4 naija..only if boko haram can be smart and bomb d rite people |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by jpphilips(m): 5:30pm On Jul 20, 2012 |
thomasjohn: u dey mind am? lets start with the ownership of the bonga facility, the NNPC/Nigeria has the majority stake or are we sanctioning shell as operators? if so, what is the sanction for the regulators? furthermore, accident or not, someone has to be responsible for that, now, at 5b usd, shell has bought the environment i guess, 40,000bbls of crude is worth less than 5million usd and NOSDRA cleans it up with 5b usd? NOSDRA NOSDRA NOSDRA!!!!! how many times did i call you? 1 Like |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Nobody: 8:42pm On Jul 20, 2012 |
thomasjohn:What's in poor practices you don't understand? You are indeed very short-sighted! |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by thomasjohn: 9:18pm On Jul 20, 2012 |
all4naija: What's in poor practices you don't understand? You are indeed very short-sighted! u ar d one who is short sighted, how do leaks happen, they happen as a result of damage of pipelines, will a company go and deliberately damage their pipeline? NO. If you car breaks down will i say its cos of ur poor practice that it breaks down? No, it could be due too several reasons,which might be beyond your control. 1 Like |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by Nobody: 1:52am On Jul 21, 2012 |
thomasjohn:Dude,that is very funny of you! What is poor practices in what you've just explained? I can't imagine somebody who claimed to know what he his defending only to be mixing things up. Poor practices in this case mean resorting to positions or practices that would put the area they are operating or workers in anticipated dangers. Like using equipments which are not in good conditions, nor taking the environment serious regardless of provided guidelines and regulations by the government of Nigeria. Your argument is when oil spillage happens it is due to accident without questioning the causes and what measures have been in place to check the problems. Niger-delta has the worst oil spillage damaged region in the world. People who have traveled around the world working for Shell testified to the fact Shell does not operate in Netherlands the way it does in the Niger-delta region. Your mind is made up and I doubt if you would still grasp this piece of explanation |
Re: Shell: $5Bn Bonga Field Spill Fine Unjustified by StarrMatthieu: 2:25am On Jul 21, 2012 |
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