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| Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by WadeFTW: 10:49pm On Dec 10, 2007 |
Who was greater? |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by OEPHIUS(m): 10:59pm On Dec 10, 2007 |
when you say greater that has a lot of gravity it means by all means better and the person is like a legend so if you talk legends olajuwon is one cos of him being a nigerian and in the game shaq has brought a lot to centre play so graeter i would not comment but better shaq |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by davidif: 4:28am On Dec 11, 2007 |
I think Shaq is definitely the most dominant centre of all time, with no disrespect to Bill Russell, Wilt chamberlain and Kareem Abdul Jabbar who played in different eras. The dream too is also one of the all time great centres. He is by far the most athletic centre ever. He was like a guard trapped in a centre's body. The guy could what all these guys couldn't (did you ever see this guy running the floor on a fastbreak  ). Plus, the guy schooled Shaq when he came into the league, and he ate David Robinson for dinner in the western conference finals. Also, who can forget that gloriously unstoppable "dream shake"?, till today, nobody can stop that move ha ha. If Clyde "the glide" Drexler had stayed with the dream instead of going to portland, who knows how many more championships they would have won. |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by WadeFTW: 2:45pm On Dec 11, 2007 |
davidif: Couldn't have said it better myself. Dream was more skilled and had an array of moves. But Shaq was the more dominant player, Defense, it's not even close. . .Olajuwon>>>Shaq. I believe Dream was the better individual talent, but Shaq was the greater player because of I believe he had the better combination of invidual accolades and team success. |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by A40(m): 4:56pm On Dec 11, 2007 |
That is a tough call i will slightly go for SHAQ because he won more rings and was more dominant but when it comes to post play Olajuwon was a don |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by folahann(m): 5:48pm On Dec 11, 2007 |
Both should we be comparing and what are rhe basis for chosing these two |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by WadeFTW: 5:59pm On Dec 11, 2007 |
A-40:Actually, you've got it the other way around: Post play went to Shaq hands down. Everything else is Olajuwon (Defense, Passing, Rebounding, Playing w/o the ball, Dribbling, etc, ) Obviously Dream was more skilled. Shaq was so dominant, that's why he gets an exception. But, let's not forget that these cats went Head-to-Head in the Finals w/ Shaq having Penny, and Olajuwon not having nearly as good of supporting cast. Basically, all Dream's supporting casts were nothing more than 3-point specialists. Dream humiliated Shaq in that series. But I say Shaq is GREATER (not better) because of the better combination of team success and individual accolades. Talent/Skill wise, Dream is obviously better. Shaq himself said that Dream is better and Michael Jordan included Dream in his all-90's starting 5, leaving out Shaq. |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by A40(m): 6:20pm On Dec 11, 2007 |
Hmm i dont agree man i still think Olajuwon was the best post player.Olajuwon had more skill even though Shaq was somewhat hyped so you could say Shaq was greater but in an average team i would rather have Shaq his presence intimidates defenders a lot |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by WadeFTW: 7:51pm On Dec 11, 2007 |
A-40: How can Dream be a better post player? All Shaq had WAS THE POST MOVE in his offensive repertoire. His post moves are regarded the most dominant (along with Wilt Chamberlain) in NBA history. Maybe you meant that Dream had so many moves in the post was more[i] versatile[/i]. Then I would agree, but Shaq's post game were far more dominant. I mean, the advent of the anticipation "Hack-a-Shaq" was b/c Shaq dominance in the post |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by BlackMamba(m): 9:57pm On Dec 11, 2007 |
Both are great, but Shaq is greater. Simply because, put in the same condition, Shaq will deliver more championships, which is the bottom line. |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by WadeFTW: 10:38pm On Dec 11, 2007 |
BlackMamba: I still believe that Shaq is greater. But, understand that Shaq had Penny, Wade and Kobe. Without Kobe and Wade, I question the titles. Dream never had a guy (other than an over-the-hill Clyde Drexler) with the caliber of those 3, yet he still won championships. Imagine Olajuwon with a Penny/Wade/Kobe on the same team. That would be scary. Also, remember that Dream won all his championships in an era full of dominating centers where they weren't any handcheck rules (Ewing, Admiral, Shaq, etc, ) whereas Shaq won his rings playing in a watered down era for centers where you had the handcheck and the defensive 3 second rules. You have to become a walking NBA encyclopedia like me to root out some variables. 1 Like |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by OEPHIUS(m): 10:34pm On Dec 12, 2007 |
You have to become a walking NBA encyclopedia like me to root out some variables.17 posts and i already dislike you and your arrogant self swear that you did not dig that out of some website you make me sick |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by WadeFTW: 7:15pm On Dec 13, 2007 |
OEPHIUS: . . .and it looks like you need to search a website on enhancing your grammar |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by davidif: 4:50am On Dec 14, 2007 |
How could Shaq have better post moves than "The Dream" have any of you seen the "Dream Shake" y'all need to check it out on Youtube, it was absolutely (i mean absolutely) indefensible in other words, UNSTOPPABLE. Shaq had raw power; he is a freak of nature, his combination of size 7'2 over 300 pounds and athleticism made him dominant (look how he bullied Dikembe Mutombo in the Finals in 2000)  . But Olajuwon for me was the more skillful centre and by far the most athletic and was overall the more complete centre.@wadeftw The dream had some good players like Sam Cassell, Big shot Bob, and the glide, but never had a D.Wade or Kobe but like you said Hakeem ate shaq for lunch, hakeem was never one of those players who flopped when he faced shaq, he stood up to him as a man. |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by A40(m): 4:48pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
Shaq was a bully and always had great supporting cast.Kobe,Wade same cannot be said for Olajuwon i agree with Mr Wade but when it comes to the post play i insist Olajuwon was the master and when they faced head to head Olajuwon easily whooped Shaq's ass |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by WadeFTW: 6:06pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
A-40: Hakeem post play had more variety. Shaq's post play was more dominant and effective Both of their post plays was the greatest I've ever seen, but Shaq's post play was unrivaled by anyone not named Wilt Chamberlain. Fact. Olajuwon did abuse Shaq in the '95 Finals en route to a consecutive championship win. However, don't try and act as if Shaq didn't have his way against Dream either (28 PPG). Also, I would also have a prime Shaq (circa 2000) than a prime Dream (mid 90s), although I do believe that Dream was the better individual player (by far). Shaq, in his prime consistently commanded triple teams, making it easier for guys like Kobe and Fisher to penetrate under the wing. I don't believe anyone forced opposing coaches to change their gameplan more frequently (other than MJ and probably Wilt) than Shaquille O'Neal. |
| Re: Olajuwon Vs. Shaq by WadeFTW: 6:12pm On Dec 17, 2007 |
How could Shaq have better post moves than "The Dream" have any of you seen the "Dream Shake" y'all need to check it out on Youtube, it was absolutely (i mean absolutely) indefensible in other words, UNSTOPPABLE. Shaq had raw power; he is a freak of nature, his combination of size 7'2 over 300 pounds and athleticism made him dominant (look how he bullied Dikembe Mutombo in the Finals in 2000) . But Olajuwon for me was the more skillful centre and by far the most athletic and was overall the more complete centre. So what you're basically saying here is that Dream's post play was much more versatile (more moves), which I agree 100%, but, other than Wilt, NO ONE had a more dominant post game than Shaq. If you disagree with this statement then there's no reason to argue. If you don't believe that Shaq's post moves wer more effective (not versatile) then you need to ante up some of that crack you got there |
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