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Islam for Muslims / Re: I Invite U,lagosshia To Arguement by Abuzola1(m): 9:26pm On Jan 26, 2011
Mr bilms: I should be left alone ? Thats fascinating and refulgent. I love that blathering, anyway let me not derail the thread, wishing you the best
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 11:25pm On Jan 25, 2011
congoshine:

And what have your own ancestors passed down to you?

Have you bothered to learn about your own people let alone the 'God sent ' customs of the arabs ? undecided

Imagine boasting that Islam tells you how to use the toilet ,as if that will reduce the almajiris on the highway cheesy
hahaha, congo won't spare me o, you are free to believe God doesn't exist, plz take your wahala to the next door, no vacancy here
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 10:20pm On Jan 25, 2011
toba:

Haaha. Abu, i'm not your boss but a brother. Ok u re right but i still think mukina2 is outstanding same as Jarus a gentleman
yeah they are doing an excelerating job, but if am the one i will not insidiously compromise my islam for anything that will come along my path God's willing and my people will be proud of me likewise the other religious group coz islam has taught us how to co exist with other religious group and giving them their right without making my iman (faith) mendacious, the modish thing about islam is that in whatever thing you do you are guided, from birth to burial every thing is in place in Quran and hadith, it may sound funny but is true and you can verify from any muslim, even going to the toilet, islam has taught us how to enter, how to urinate, how to hold the private part when disseminating, infact where to face when using the toilet, i decided to site this example because toilet is a less significant thing and yet is not excluded,
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 3:06pm On Jan 25, 2011
toba:

Do the bolded. Online fight makes no sense. I ve learnt a lot from your Fellow muslim (moderator) in person of Mukina2 on how she relates with everyone freely even though her belief differs from theirs'.
okay my boss, but on the issue of muki and other muslim title holders, they have to carry everybody along be it a muslim or a christian, and in the process they compromise their religion knowingly or unknowingly inorder to satisfy their employer's desire/need, and thats the criteria and ethic for an employee. So don't compare them with us
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 3:01pm On Jan 25, 2011
toba:

Do the bolded. Online fight makes no sense. I ve learnt a lot from your Fellow muslim (moderator) in person of Mukina2 on how she relates with everyone freely even though her belief differs from theirs'.
okay my boss, but on the issue of muki and other muslim title holders, they have to carry everybody along be it a muslim or a christian, and in the process they compromise their religion knowingly or unknowingly inorder to satisfy their employer's desire/need, and thats the criteria and ethic for an employee. So don't compare them with us
Islam for Muslims / Re: I Invite U,lagosshia To Arguement by Abuzola1(m): 11:09am On Jan 25, 2011
bilms:

@abuzola, plz i would prefer you just watch this thread.

i know he did copy and paste,and when you do that, it will automatically be deleted,and if u persist, your id will be suspended,but am not bothered with that,
you knew it was spambot and u were busy shouting on the mod, is this not being cunning, you want us to believe that you are right in your debate with shia and again displaying prankish attitude. God have mercy
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 10:55am On Jan 25, 2011
toba:

Abuzooooooooooooooooooooola how far? i ve not heard from u in 2011. hope u are fine. school nko? im happy u are now gentle and dont result to online fight like before. l can be your mentor if u want in any favet of life especially career/education wise.
yes o my oga, missed u too, did you read congoshine comment, being my mentor what do you think i should do to him ? (1) twist him with verbal encirclement for being an atheist or (2) ignore the brat like a dead rat lying on the road and vehicles running on it ?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 7:43pm On Jan 24, 2011
mukina2:

Salaam Abu i dey oh and i am good.how are you? been a while too, everyone is fine smiley
good to hear that alhamdulilah, sorry i just notice something in your signature, R.I.P for bawo, is bawo a muslim ? If no, then lets not forget Quran 9:113 Allah forbade the Prophet and the muslim to pray for deceased unbeliever. It is too late, too bad for them, their matter have been decided no going back, may Allah save us from disbelief
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 7:43pm On Jan 24, 2011
mukina2:

Salaam Abu i dey oh and i am good.how are you? been a while too, everyone is fine smiley
good to hear that alhamdulilah, sorry i just notice something in your signature, R.I.P for bawo, is bawo a muslim ? If no, then lets not forget Quran 9:113 Allah forbade the Prophet and the muslim to pray for deceased unbeliever. It is too late, too bad for them, their matter have been decided no going back, may Allah save us from disbelief
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 7:40pm On Jan 24, 2011
mukina2:

Salaam Abu i dey oh and i am good.how are you? been a while too, everyone is fine smiley
good to hear that alhamdulilah, sorry i just notice something in your signature, R.I.P for bawo, is bawo a muslim ? If no, then lets not forget Quran 9:113 Allah forbade the Prophet and the muslim to pray for deceased unbeliever. It is too late, too bad for them, their matter have been decided no going back, may Allah save us from disbelief
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 4:37pm On Jan 24, 2011
mukina2:

na wa.
people should know when to ignore the bot on this section.
just dey yarn opata left ,.right and centre
alhaja ekujo meta o, longest time, hope all is moving fine by Allah's grace, and the children as well.
Islam for Muslims / Re: I Invite U,lagosshia To Arguement by Abuzola1(m): 10:11am On Jan 24, 2011
bilms:

@ moderator, y is lagosshia's post deleted? Y ban him? Pls restore is account as soon as possible.
tell him to stop copy and paste attitude of his, no moderator banned him neither were his post deleted, he can only corrupt weak mind muslims who have shallow knowledge of Islam, but rather he was banned and post deleted by the almighty cyber spambot which is unfriendly with copy and paste bidders.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Sir Olabowale, Lagosboy, Jarus, Muhsin And Co Be My Mentor, What Am I Missing by Abuzola1(m): 11:52pm On Jan 23, 2011
uplawal:

@Congoshine,Mumu,its only ignorant hausa muslim that will say such,and besides,Islam dnt discriminate,pls get your bp checked.
yeee ! Uplawal don finish me die, its now 50/50, hope you have forgiven me, i have also forgiven you. Plz
Islam for Muslims / Re: Lagosshia What Happened To The Lineage Of Al-hassan(r) by Abuzola1(m): 8:31pm On Jan 16, 2011
Mrs uplawal your problem is psychological disorder, by Allah i use to pray for you, you are truely confused, the hadith you believe is evil is what your counterpart is quoting, you seem in despair, you don't even know what you are doing. Pathetic ! O ma se o
LagosShia:

the Prophet Muhammad (sa) had 2 grandsons:Hassan and Hussain (may peace be upon them both).

the Prophet said: Hassan and Hussain are the masters of the youth of paradise.

the Prophet also said: Hassan and Hussain are two imams whether standing or sitting.(this is in reference that Imam Hassan did not rise up in revolt while Imam Hussain did.this hadith tells us that both were righteous in their standing and sitting hence they are 2 imams).
Islam for Muslims / Re: Lagosshia What Happened To The Lineage Of Al-hassan(r) by Abuzola1(m): 12:28pm On Jan 15, 2011
hymen:

I'm shocked by this ? dDd you check the link I provided? The King says he's a decendant of imam hassan & you're saying he's not ? Can you provide proof of your claim?
why are you shock, didn't u read our arguement and see how he deny many of their doctrines.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 4:43pm On Jan 11, 2011
123jml:

We should have halt from replying to these dudes any more because of the above post by the prominent member of shikashia sect which doesn't make any sense to any responsible Muslim.
LagosShia:

am requesting the bible reference on the verse the hadith mentions.
lol, suit yourself mr dissimulation, as if he wasn't the one that said the bible was majorly distorted unlike the one Allah referred to in the Quran, if you truely believe that it wasn't the holy books Allah referred to jews and christian to hold fast to it 1400 years and i even gave you sample of uzair being the son of God missing in their current book (old testament). Once Again you displayed your stupidiy in excult and pride. Let him who have sense decide for himself the right path. May Allah open ur heart to the truth and cede arrogancy amin. Masalam
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 5:11pm On Jan 10, 2011
LagosShia:

@Abuzola!

if you can show me evidence or the reference,then we can examine it.but you cant build your case with a claim.if you lack evidence then the case is lost.

check Abu Dawud Hadith, book 40, Number 4639 , for reference
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 11:25pm On Jan 07, 2011
LagosShia:

i dont deny the fact at all that the bible is constantly edited and the original message is lost.infact plenty of what is contained in the bible is a distortion of the revelation of Jesus and the other prophets.

but i cannot verify that umar is prophesied in the bible if it is lost and i have never set eyes on that prophecy.also i am not christian.i can also use the logic that Umar could have bribed some bishops to add his name to the bible if we want to use the bible which constantly changes as the yardstick.so i think we should handle what is between our hands.and as a muslim,you dont need to refer to the bible to solve the dispute between us.the Quran and the Prophet's teachings through the Ahlul-Bayt and the good Sahaba is enough for me as shia.


lol, haba my guy, how can umar bribe a bishop, if the bishop is corrupt then definitely umar the 2nd caliph of the muslim ummah cannot be conceit, so pls stop that. And you made mentioned of umar's name not being in the bible, i thought we settled this up there and you even said that many facts were lost. Let me give you a clue for why Every single prophecy is profess by Islam, this is because so that people will be guided to the right path, before the birth of jesus the jews had every single detail of how and where and name of the next messenger to come, when he will be born, etc, the people of the book had details of the last Prophet and ambient he will sustain, now to Muhammad's prophecy , He told us of the coming of dajjal, imam mahdi, yajuj and majuj, etc and how they will ravage the earth, how they will die, their age, etc, so why don't you believe that jesus also prophesized on the caliphate if you truely believe in jesus as messenger from Allah
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 5:16pm On Jan 07, 2011
Also the story of salman Al farsi, a christian who embraced Islam after reading the identity of the last prophet,  which today is missing in the bible, i had to search for a shia website that also supported salman was once a christian since you disregard sunni hadith, and i got this
http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=5000


Who was Salman?
How did he believe in Islam? His name was Roozbah. It means "Happy". He was born at a village in Isfahan. His father was the head of the village. He was a rich man.
At that time, the Persian people worshipped fire because it was the symbol of light. So, fire was sacred to them. Thus, they had temples where fire was made to blaze forever. And there were holy men. They continued its burning day and night.
When Roozbah grew up, his father wanted him to be of great importance. So, he asked him to manage the temple and to go on burning the fire. Roozbah thought about fire.
He refused it as a god, for man takes care of it so as not to put out. One day, the young man roamed through the distant green fields. In the distance, he saw a pretty building.
He headed for it. The building was a church. The church was built by some monks to worship Allah. At that time, Christianity was Allah's real religion. The young man talked with the monks. The love of Allah's religion entered his heart. He asked them:
Where's the religion from? It's from Shaam.

The Migration
Roozbah decided to go to Shaam. He waited for a caravan The traders of the caravan accepted to take him to their homeland. The young man lived in a priest's house.
He wanted to learn the principles of the religion, good behaviour, and the teachings of the Bible. After a time, the priest died.
So, Roozbah immigrated to Mousal ( a city in the northern part of Iraq). There he lived in a church. From Mousal, he moved to Naseebeen. Then he moved to Ammuriyah.
Roozbah lived at Ammuriyah for a time. The priest of Ammuriyah was a good man. Before his death, he said to Roozbah:
During this time, Allah will send a Prophet. The Prophet will bring the religion of Ibrahim al-Khalil. And he'll immigrate to a land with a lot of date palms.
Roozbah asked him:
What are his marks? Some of his marks are: He'll accept the gift but he won't accept the alms. And the mark of prophecy will be between his shoulders.
The good priest died and Roozbah was by himself. He thought of the immigration to the Arab Peninsula. One day, a caravan passed by him. The caravan wanted to come back to Hejaz. He gave them all his money to travel to Makkah.
The traders took his money and deprived him of his freedom. They sold him to a Jew as a slave. Roozbah was sad because of that disloyalty, but he was patient. He sincerely began working on the Jewish man's farm.
Days passed. One morning a man belonged to Bani Quraidha came to visit his cousin. He saw Roozbah working very hard. The man said to his cousin:
Please sell me that slave.
Roozbah became happy because Bani Quraidha lived in Yathrib full of date-palms. In the meantime, the priest of Ammuriyah told him that the promised Prophet would appear in it. Roozbah was always counting the days.
He looked forward to the Prophet's appearance. One day, while he was working on the farm, he heard his master saying to a friend of his:
Muhammad's arrived at Quba. And some people of Yathrib have received him.
Roozbah rejoiced at the news, for it was time to get his freedom. He waited till evening. When it became dark, he took some dates and left his master's house secretly. The distance between Yathrib and Quba was about two miles.
Roozbah covered them quickly. When he arrived at Quba, he went to our Master Muhammad [s] and said:
These dates as alms.
Our Master Muhammad [s] distributed the dates to his companions, but he did not eat any. Roozbah said to himself:
This is the first mark
On the following day, he came again. He had some dates, too. He said to our Master Muhammad [s]:
These are gifts.
The Prophet [s] took the dates gratefully. He distributed them to his companions and ate some. Roozbah said to himself:
And this is the second mark
For this reason, Roozbah was certain that Muhammad was the promised Prophet. He embraced him and believed in Islam. For this reason, our Master Muhammad [s] named him Salman.


Freedom
Islam has come to free person from control of another person. Allah has given man freedom. Thus our Master Muhammad [s] said to his companions:
Help Salman to get his freedom
The Jewish man accepted to free Salman provided that he should plant him three thousand date-palms. His brothers collected him the palm shootings.
And our Master Muhammad [s] began planting them. They all lived. In this way, Allah granted Salman freedom. Therefore, he lived happily with our Master Muhammad [s].
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 5:03pm On Jan 07, 2011
LagosShia:

please dont just mention people like Talha and Zubayr.also read and find out who was Ammar Ibn Yasser (may Allah be pleased on him).Ammar was a great sahaba.


as for the story mentioned,i do believe that there is no such prophecy that exists in the Bible about any 4 caliphs.if at all they (the first 3) will be mentioned as usrupers.if you read carefully in the above,you clearly see that this is another orchestrated and fabricated story aimed at the image of Imam Ali.read very well the wordings and trick of this hadith.this is not suprising as many as such were fabricated to fight the ahlul-bayt and one clear example already discussed are the fabricated hadiths sunnis still have to this day which try to relegate the importance of ashura in regards to the matyrdom of Imam Hussain on the 10TH of Muharram.

regardless,i am very open to read everything and that is why i am muslim.the hadith should have mentioned where the bishop got his references from.for example,when we muslims say the Prophet Muhammad is mentioned in the bible,we are able to point where in the bible mention is made and why the prophecy is about the man called Muhammad.likewise,we need references to check where Umar is mentioned in the bible or prophesied and in what light,good or bad.very simple!chikena!!!if you simply tell a christian that a bishop says this and that about the bible and you cannot prove where in the bible something is mentioned,then you or anyone can be accused of lying.

also the hadith is illogical because how can a bishop who is a mushrik (believing Jesus is god) explain that there is a prophecy in the bible about Umar or lets say about Islam and that bishop interestingly is not reported to have embraced Islam after he found in the bible prophecy about islam.this is a half and tailored story.for example,in the early 1990s we know that a bishop became muslim.and we know the name of the bishop and how he became muslim.check about David Benjamin Keldani.he became muslim simply because of the prophecy found in the book of John which described the prophet to come after Jesus.this is convincing.and many more authentic stories can be found even in the days of the Prophet and the 12 Imams where christian and jewish figures embraced Islam.we know in detail about those men.but for you or anyone to report a make-up story,that story upon examination will no doubt be rejected.

Do you think the bible is accurate from muhammad (P.B.U.H) to date, well there was a dratastic change aforetime:

Quran 9;30 The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah ." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?




Today the jews are saying that prophet muhammad was hallucinating and was confused because today's jews consider it a blasphemy for God to have a son not to even talk of attributing it to them, as a matter of fact it is not even in their book, does that mean that Allah was ignorant ? subhannallah, no, it is because they changed many things in their book from Prophet muhammad's era to now.


why would Allah revealed this if their book were severely corrupted to that of today

Quran 5;66. And if only they had acted according to the Taurat (Torah), the Injeel (Bible), and what has (now) been sent down to them from their Lord (the Qur'an), they would surely have gotten provision from above them and from underneath their feet. There are from among them people who are on the right course (i.e. they act on the revelation and believe in Prophet Muhammad like 'Abdullah bin Salam ), but many of them do evil deeds.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 11:54pm On Jan 06, 2011
Lagos shia- i want to share what i sent to one of my group members in Abu Dawud Hadith, book 40, Number 4639 , though i know shia reject bukhari, muslim and abu dawud they have their own hadith, In the hadith Aqra the muadhan of umar ibn khattab narrated the conversation of umar ibn khattab and a bishop, he said umar ibn khattab asked the bishop if his name was in their book and he replied in the affirmative, he said umar was described as severest trustworthy, and asked about the next caliph if his name was mentioned in the book, he replied in the affirmative, the bishop said the next caliph will be pious but will favour his relative. (In ibn kathir Al bidayah wan nihayah uthman gave many post of ministry to his relative). Umar said may Allah forgive uthman three times, And the bishop was asked about the next caliph, he said it is in their book, He said (ALI) the next caliph will be rusty iron, though a pious caliph, when he becomes the caliphate sword will be unshealthed and bloodshed. Umar said 'filthy ! Filthy' End of quote. Indeed, Prophecy came true, it was doing the caliphate of Ali that he had the guts to fight Prophet muhammad's family i.e his wife, the first time that muslim and muslim fought each other, the first time that sahabas and sahabas slaughtered themselves like enemy, great and prominent sahabas were killed in the battle like Talha and zubair.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 5:56am On Jan 05, 2011
LagosShia:

oh so i see why you now behave worse than the missionaries themselves.you have being contaminated with their systemic lies and imaginations against islam.you are here using those tactics against fellow muslims to create some sort of euphoria for yourself.

defending the truth is an obligation for muslims and you dont have to buy my credit for doing that.a muslim must be cool-headed enough and must have the ability to discriminate among issues as to what is wrong and right with a sense of fairness and justice.


from your above,are you saying/denying/doubting/asking tijaniyyah and qadiriyya are not sufis?
go and check the meaning of sufi or rather go to Ayatollah for more information since you have been inculcated with cancerous teaching and don't drag me into your factious point of view. Thats my boy, just go and ask him and be cogent
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 6:10pm On Jan 04, 2011
uplawal:

Its you and the Alhe Sunnah group that says so,you all lied that the Quran  Surah Ahzab is incomplete,we have provided you with proofs based on your taftseer,its in the thread,locate it,i cant be bothered about such again for now am busy, i need to cook supper
now you are talking, why did you say hadith in the first place, anyway i have forgiven you lol my sister, whatever tafsir you read is incorrect or was made to tarnish sunni's image. I never heard itqan and co in my life, tabari and ibn kathir are our respected tafsir scholar and not balogun and sodiq or itqan, hope you ain't still angry with me, ma binu jo
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 5:55pm On Jan 04, 2011
LagosShia:

you never bring up any accusation or allegation that you can prove yourself correct.all you do is go wild by spamming the thread with irrelevant posts,remarks and words,insults and lies.

you accused the shia that they believe in 2 extra surahs.i brought you a sunni website defending the shia against that particular claim about those surahs.that claim is mostly repeated by christian missionaries to doubt the Quran and those 2 surahs are plain forgeries.

your aim to repeat the lie of the missionaries is a way to cast doubt on the shia belief in the Quran.remember what the Prophet said:i am leaving behind with you the two weighty things-the Quran and my Ahlul-Bayt,my Propgeny.if you hold on to them you will never go astray".there is no muslim group that holds on to both the Quran and the Progeny other than the Shia school of thought.that is the will of the Prophet the shia obey.

when you presented those two forged surahs,i then in retaliation presented from your own sunni "sahih" books hadiths which says that the Quran has missing verses.i am still waiting for an answer from you regarding those hadiths.you are accusing the shia of having extra two surahs.but your sunni hadith book have hadiths that say the Quran is missing.explain to us how you can deny those hadiths.those hadiths have being presented by me.read the previous page of the thread,you will find them there.

i have told you that what makes a shia is the wilayah of Ahlul-Bayt and the belief that Imam Ali was the first of 12 legitimate and divinely appointed Imams in succession to the Prophet after his death.anyone who believes in that is a shia.you keep passing judgement about me being a shia because of stonning.if you accuse me of not being shia based on that (my denial of stonning for adultery),then i am not also sunni and you can altogether say i am a kafir for not believing in stonning.that my dear old man is not a criteria for passing judgement on peoples' iman.what makes a muslim is the shahada and not the stonning for adulterers.

the early muslims have even forged a hadith from Aisha that there was a verse of stonning which was left out of the Quran.all that was in a bid to justify stonning.you personally even believe that verse was left out as you supported that fabricated hadith.how can a verse be left out when people remembered the name of the verse and what it says?i am not being adamant.i am only saying that you should not cast doubt on the Quran in order to make a point.that is wrong.the shia too believe in stonning but they reject that your sunni hadith that the so called verse of stonning is missing.if anyone can prove to me why stonning should be used and accepted,i will accept it.so instead of name calling and trying to be argumentative,try and present your evidence and logic why i should accept stonning.convince me if you can.

in another post,you were bragging about being sunni.you grouped the shia with the tijaniyya (sufis who can also be both sunni or shia as sufism itself is not a sect per se but a deviation) and ahmadiyyas who believe that Muhammad (sa) is not the last prophet and they believe in Ghulam Ahmad as a prophet.you also mistook the tawassool of the sufis like the tijjaniyya for shirk.that shows how wahhabi your brain has been washed and how deficient you are.you simply grouped the shia with the other "deviant" sects because the shia hate the first 3 caliphs.on that ground,i want to tell you that you should also believe that many sahaba were deviant because they themselves (the sahaba) hated themselves and even fought against each other.what about that?is that not a proof for their deviation and a vindication for the shia hate against some sahaba including the first 3 caliphs?

my advice as ever is for you to read from wide range of sources and angles."read" is the first verse of the Quranic revelation.so please help yourself and do us a favor by reading.you will spare my time and dont have me here wasting my time replying to ignorance.
hahahaha, tijaniya, qadiriya are sufi ? Is a mistake argueing with you in the first place, i have been arguing with a coconut head all along, how many times have we defended shia in this forum when christian lambast muslim, go and ask uplawal, she was here when we confabulated the issue of Ayatollah sleeping with a 4 years old girl, and now you are here cheering that sunni refute the 2 additional chapter of the shia Quran which the christian always illustrate. Henceforth since i now peruse your methodology and wisdom i will treat your post with baloney and catch my fun now that i know that you are myopia. Be my guest
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 5:38pm On Jan 04, 2011
uplawal:

@Lagosboy,Abuzola,,chackula and co,but is there really a problem to the reason why i refused to support the evils your heros did while alive,how they forged hadiths to support stoningAdulterers,Apostate,Suckling when they are so absent in the whole of Quran,isn't it that they directly says the Quran is deficient and incomplete with those evil hadiths supporting those barbaric devilish doctrine,and to make matter worst is for them to now say in thier book,that surah Ahzab is not complete and it supposed to be 200,but its 73,meaning a whole 127 is missing,how can they alledgely lie that the book from Allah is incomplete,you people should fear Allah and dnt include manmade punishment to Divine laws,

Or why should it annoy you when i refuse to support the evils your heros did regarding the household of the prophet,how the specifically burnt down fatima's house and kill her hubby,and kills,while you turn blind eyes to it,and some people remember it with passion,should that now cause you to maliciously hate whoever loved the prophets household,and anybody found loving the household is "tagged confused or not guided as you claimed"
big sister, plz show us the hadith that says azhab is incomplete, why are you excult of lying,
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 1:55pm On Jan 04, 2011
Lagosboy:

@Abuzola

Brother please let us stop this conversation as you can see i have stopped contributing to the thread. Believe me bro nothing good will come out of this conversation except bickwering, hatred and more confusion. Lagosshia is shia and he his happy with it so please leave him to his beiliefs. Uplawal is unfortunately confused please let her be, with time she will learn more about the deen inshallah.

You can only educate someone willing to listen, otherwise it is wasted effort and energy. We are making a fool of ourselves and mockery of our religion with our confusing postings and bickering.
alright
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 1:52pm On Jan 04, 2011
tbaba1234:

Salam,

Ibrahim(AS) was muslim, not shia not sunni
Musa(AS) was muslim, not shia not sunni
Isa(AS) was muslim, not shia not sunni
Mohammed(AS) was muslim,not sunni not shia

The prophet predicted that his ummah will divide into sects, unfortunately that is the case today.

Let's focus on the things that unite us as muslims and serve Allah to the best of our ability. All these bickering is unwarranted.

Salam aleikum
neither am i a party of two sect, but i relie on sunni for guidance, if there wouldn't be any group of ulamas with pure belief, holding fast to Quran and sunnah there is no way to make prejudice judgement, ijma, Qiyas and fatwah. This group is named Ahlu sunnah, and the members 'sunni'. There is no way to call up muslim with adulterated iman/ideology into the group for dissemination of verdict, a shia believe the 3 guided caliphs are accursed, ahmadiyya believe muhammad wasn't the last Prophet but ahmad Ghulam the founder of the movement contradicting the Quran, Quraniyun reject hadith, Qadiriya and tijaniya believe that their founders were waliy, their followers commit shirk by calling on them in terms of dolour and distress. The strict followers of Quran and hadith are called ahlu sunnah. So don't be mistaken, i do not belong to any sect but authomatically am sunni since Quran and hadith is what i clenched
Food / Re: Food Supplements That Promote Eye Sight by Abuzola1(m): 12:43pm On Jan 04, 2011
bijelee:

Will like to know meals, supplements or food that promotes eye sight, longsighted ness to be precise.
eat meal that contain vitamin A, like meat, egg, unskilmed milk, carrot and vegetable. Or you can go to a pharmacy and buy vitamin A capsule with a doctor's prescription excess taking of vitamin A capsule will deteriorate your abdominal system
Islam for Muslims / Re: Somali Rape Victim, 13, Stoned To Death by Abuzola1(m): 9:46pm On Jan 03, 2011
uplawal:

Muslims that are justifying the laws should really becareful,the stoning law is not in the whole of Quran, but in the hadith,Sharia should only be based by the laws in the Quran and nothing more,anyone or group that act contrary will have to answer big question on judgement day.
Do you think islam is something extempore that you decide to reject what favours you or seems right to your wisdom. Islam is far from that.  I pity you, if you are proud of what you are upholding then boast of it and be exult, why are u dissembling your belief if you are truthful. Am hopeful one day you will be away from the brink of herectism
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 9:31pm On Jan 03, 2011
Sweetnecta:

@All muslimu wa Muslimatu: I think is high time all of this ended. Do it for the pleasure of Allah. No more bickering. Salaamu alaykum wa Rahmatulah.
wa'alaikum salam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 9:25pm On Jan 03, 2011
uplawal:

Are you sick or something,is anything wrong with you?do you think because i dnt send mail to you on facebook again means i dnt know what am doing,in your entire life and i repeat,dnt you ever and ever call me by my name on nairaland,have i ever called you your real name on nairaland?just make sure you erase my name or else i will report you to Allah and he will answer because you are trying to implicate my personality,which you already did on facebook anyway,you called me all sorts of name,you actually said me am not normal mentally, you and i know facebook is entirely different from nairaland,you exposed me to public,walahi it will be difficult to forgive you trust me,and youre in for it.

You just said rubbish all long on facebook anyway,i just decided to ignore you,have you read the post well upthere,did i ever say the Quran to be incomplete?i was actually fighting that the Quran is complete,then you stated saying stoning verse,and some others are not in the Quran,that they were meant to be there, does that not show you meant the Quran to be incomplete?is it not so absurd for you to say i said the Quran is incomplete,when you  actually said it cos you said some verses like stoning verse is not there,pls tell me now,who is implying the Quran not to be complete?thats why i went and brought your evidence of what you and your people said and thought about the incompletement of the noble Quran,and i dnt know the person that told you  that i said uthman removed 200 verses,or maybe youre reading upside down,if you cant see clearly your hadith was the one that says Ayesha said the Quran Al-ahzab actually contain 200 and Uthman removed 127 verses and left 73 verses,thats why i brought it to you to see,its  your book that wrote it and i simply brought it for you to read and youre here telling i said the Quran to be incomplete,or is it me that says is not complete or your Heros above that said it with thier own mouth in the hadith.And you know you made mention of my hubby the last time,you said my hubby is the one that was mentoring me,i dnt talk cos i felt since nobody is mentoring me, i dnt need to be loud about you insulting my hubby,my hubby that you dnt even know,imagine,youre so mannerless to include my hubby in matter that he does not know anything about and you dnt even know him.

i almost wee wee in my boxer, wallayi and Allah is my witness that i never mean to humiliate you like you insinuated, plz and plz forgve me for any ill word, i thought you too wouldn't be ashame of your stance regarding your belief unlike lagos shia thats why i posted all that, besides, you were the cause because since you know that you don't believe in hadith why did you challenge me by asking me why i believe in the hadith i quoted since Quran doesn't support it, for you to ask me this on facebook in public when you know we are tackling it here meant that you don't feel infringe if we carry on there, but am really sorry for whatever inconveniency. You have not shown me any hadith of 200 leftover Quran, itqan and co are historian and not hadith transmitters.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Refuting Shia Baseless Theology by Abuzola1(m): 9:02pm On Jan 03, 2011
uplawal:

Why should a muslim even accept stoning when is not even in the Quran,its basicly implying the Quran is deficients and the was are not complete,when in reality and ritually is perfect and complete,anyways all muslims cannot be fooled altogether though.

Lagosshia,that Abuzola is something else

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oh my, i again repeat that hadith contains reported words of Allah by the Prophet, i gave you a couple of hadiths as an example yesterday, haven't u read hadith that prophet muhammad says Allah said this or that ? Thats your own palava

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