tesppidd:
lol

Surely the following must move on so we can rebuild;

Pique.
Busquets.
Alba.
Suarez.
Rakitic.
Roberto.
Dembele.
Vidal.
Then Messi.

Am I right?

Pretty much the whole club imo. Too much toxicity and for Xavi to decline coming back means we need to do a lot of clearing on and off the pitch

tesppidd:
You think you have arrived because you have Vinicus.

See how you got dumped out of UCL home and away by our wife Man City.

Let's see how you will ever smell the UCL again without Ronaldo.

You dumped Ronaldo and Juve snapped him up.
Today Ronaldo is the best thing that has happened to Juve and their next project is to build a team around him.
Juve are keen on building their team around man going to be 36 years old in February.
Let that sink in!
Don't be fooled by your VARliga. Real Madrid without Ronaldo are not special anymore.


The day we let Messi go at 33 is the day we become a very average team that will struggle to be a top team and challenge for la liga.

Griezman and Dembele are not at the level of the next line of superstars like Mbappe, De Bryune, Sterling and Neymar.


Look at the stats Messi posted in la liga this season!
Messi practically bossed the whole of la liga in terms of all the individual stats you can think of.

We let Messi go and a top top top European team will grab him and build a solid team around him for another 3 years.

You don't get it do you? The world will most likely not see any player like Messi and Ronaldo in another 50 years.

They must be pampered.

If you guys had only pampered Ronaldo perhaps with the solid team you have with a lot of fresh blood, both parites (Real and Ronaldo) won't be flopping separately today in the UCL.

They might even have won another UCL together.

Even at 33, I could only think of maybe 3 players with greater ability/value than Messi today.(and that's strictly because of their ages)

Neymar
Mbappe
De Bryune
Maybe Sterlin


Barca has 2 options now;

1. Keep Messi and rebuild another fresh team around him for another 3 years.Replace The oldies like Suarez,Rakitic,Alba,Busquets and co with younger better faster players.

2. Let him go to another big European team which would definitely build a solid team around him and try to get the best out of him for another 3 years. Then manage Dembele and Griezman whom we think are our next superstar after Ronaldnho and Messi.

If Of course I know that there are a lot of us who would rather gamble with it and want Messi sold now; with the hope of rebuilding a new team.

But as we do that we would do well to remember A.C. Milan, Manchester United and Inter Milan who are still gasping even after 10 years.

Messi has given us everything he has and has actually fought for that badge by being loyal in a football world where the likes of PSG/Man City will probably pay him double of what he currently earns. It's never easy fighting the hierarchy of the clubs like he has done. Ronaldo fell out with the powers that be at Madrid and he left while Messi has stayed put. I would love for him to lift that trophy once more so leaving would totally be the right thing for him as we can't ask for much from him again. He can't partake in the type of rebuild the club has to undergo as this mess we're in cannot be fixed in one season and this is not primarily an on pitch problem.

I don't think any Barca fan should be surprised by yesterday. It was only going to take a proper team to expose the cracks in this team and Bayern knew that and took full advantage of that

We went into this season with no plan whatsoever,no motivation, lackluster performances. It has always been from one woeful on field performance to fights off the pitch between Messi and Abidal,Bartomeu sponsoring media attacks against the players,the Neymar transfer saga that apparently split the squad into two etc. Players that have continuously under performed like Suarez starting our games,Griezmann played out of position,Messi bailing us out countless times and the steady attacks on Rakitic who has not even made the first team by the fans. It has been a free fall and we needed that reality check. If not,we would've carried on into next season like nothing happened just like we did last season

We need a total rebuild starting from the office of the president down to Setien. Bart is the centre of all this problems and needs to resign. Setien was never good enough and for once we need to go get an experienced coach like Koeman who will steady this ship. Players like Pique,Rakitic,Alba,Suarez etc have served us well and we need to move on from them. We can forgo La Liga and Copa del Rey for a couple of seasons in order to get our shits right on and off the field. We're a big mess right now and if care is not taken would be looking to go down like Ac Milan

joviegghead:

Don't you get!

He's carrying the team. Only him.
What do you expect. Everyone was just playing with no drive or motivation.

He has been screaming. He fought with abidal once concerning club issues.
Bartomeu and Co were busy buying useless players and selling good ones.
They brought weak managers. Yet Messi was covering all the cracks and problems. We knew we had problems, but Messi's brilliance match in, match out made the board relaxed. Now Bayern exposed the problem.
And you're saying they shouldn't console him.

Honestly, enough is enough.

Thank God someone is seeing the real picture. Messi has done everything he has to do for this club including fighting the board for their woeful decisions. The real worry is never yesterday's results or Messi but the Board

CuteMercury:
The bitter truth is that the presence of Lionel Messi is hurting Barcelona. IT is time for this marriage to break. Let messi leave Barcelona for both his sake and that of the club. unlike contrary opinions, Messi leaving Barcelona will do Barcelona more good than harm. The reason Bayern took it personal was because of the presence of Messi in the squad and how he alone can decide the match, statements like that provokes rival players and they vow to eat Barca raw when they meet. Barcelona would not have lost by 8 goals if Messi was not on the pitch. "IT is a phychological thing people wont understand. IT happens not only in football but in life in general. for example. "USA VS CHINA" "BROCK NESNA VS THE UNDERTAKER" "NIGERIA VS SOUTH AFRICA"

Messi is not the problem. Bartomeu is the problem. He kept Valverde in the job even when he shouldve be sacked. He has treated our players badly including sponsoring social media companies to run propaganda against our very own players. The Neymar saga brought so much disunity within the squad,not to talk about his bad signings and appointments. That's the foundation of the problem of the club and imo,we should be more worried about the current state of the club than the results of yesterday

What you guys saw yesterday was the paper over cracks that has existed over the past 3 years. As i said I left for my house at 1-1 knowing fully well what was coming. From outright clueless bad signings,to bad team selections to stupid fans picking a scape goat in Rakitic when they can't see that the problem lies solely at the doorsteps of those who pilot the affairs of the clubs administratively.

I knew Anfield was going to be a child's play when we started this season with Valverde. How on Earth is Suarez still a player at this club.?? Umtiti was a backbone of our defense was totally sidelined by Lenglet cause of Injury when it's obvious Lenglet plays similarly like Pique. Why the hell did we not go for Rodri when it was obvious Busquet was in decline and both play similarly. Wtf was our scouts doing when players like Davies was available and we went and got Firpo. Auba is free on the market but for God knows what Suarez is starting a champions league match for us. At of all the players to sign,we went and got Pjanic who plays similarly to Rakitic and won't offer us anything offensively. I mentioned it here that Setien was not going to offer us anything instead we should have gone for Koemann who plays according to our philosophy. Soany bad decisions over and over again

We need Bart and his group of cronies to leave this club asap. Ac Milan will be a child's play compared to us by the time Messi leaves this club

This is what happens when we have no structure in place. I saw this coming

Nikeballer:


Resist the urge to SHALAYE my guy

Bantering is allowed tho but we've been vshit and this is no surprise

Am not surprised one bit. Went home at 1-1. This is the rolling stone of last season and this completely explains our state ATM. We need a total rebuild from the board

haymekus:


Yen Yen Yen

No big time coach will play Puig in a champions league match, but pep played foden against Madrid when he had silva, b.silva, mahrez and so on

Foden to me is just another Iwobi. They are technically average and don't offer much. They look good when surrounded by good systems and players.Him playing ahead of these players mean zero to nothing as his job could mean keeping the tempo of the game going and not doing anything crazy.

Puig has come into games we lacked creativity and sparked life into us. Changed games for us so far but Foden can't offer such

Sommyroy10:
Gnabry plays/ed majorly from the right (RM/RW) this season so no need switching. Coman would probably go against Semedo.
If Gnabry decides to turn up, we might need Vidal to help Alba. Semedo can hold his own against Coman. Now IMO Muller is their key, lewandowski is in everyone's mouth, but Muller has a way of creating space for lewandowski and opponents tend to notice late. Goretzka would love to bomb forward as he has been doing post lockdown (dude has enhanced physically) Can we make the Germans wear out? We should concentrate on our flanks, both, because they like to do their dirty work on one flank (mostly right; Gnabry(, switch immediately to the next, than, an easy tapin or header. They also should wary cos we are no pushovers. Hope for a good game.

Coman plays more on the right than left and games he doesn't play,Muller occupys that area. Coman is a less technical player than Gnabry so I doubt he will start as RW. That's the area Bayern will look to hit us this evening as they won't really commit from the left hand side in other not to leave space for Messi.

And yes you're correct about Muller. Lewandoski isn't really much of our headache in this game. He's movement off the ball is good but we know how to deal with strikers such as him. The problem is Muller,as those spaces he creates can enable Lewandoski get in those areas for him to explore

Vidal needs to start this game to be able to cover Alba and De Jong on the other side. Fati for me should start ahead of Suarez. Suarez is a liability and will not offer us much going forward. Dembele can then be brought in the second half

jonsnow92:
We gotta let this go.

That's my worry and I saw shades of that night against Napoli

Taguchi:


Firpo? Nah

Alba is a weak link but firpo has not proven to be better mentally and in terms of abilities and play alba might be one dimensional but firpo has no dimension at all

Did you watch our Napoli game?? Dude wasn't comfortable with the ball and gave away a lot of loose passes. He had De Jong covering for him all game and was very slow tracking back. If Napoli had hit us from that flank,we would've at least conceded another goal.

The thing is Bayern is not Napoli. I don't honestly see Davies overlapping cause of the space he will create which will allow Messi explore and Gnabry pace for pace can be matched Semedo. This will lead to Gnabry switching to the right where he will now meet Alba which is where our problem will come from

Last thing we need in this game is a player who'll start crying after halftime

Taguchi:


Insha Allahu we go win ....it will be very interesting, I will be watching with a very relaxed mind

My worry in this game is Alba. He's mentally too weak for this kind of games and I would rather play Firpo to be honest. He won't offer us what Alba will give us up front but he will be more solid than Alba who usually capitulates under pressure

joviegghead:


You forget too quick, my man. That period, Messi wasn't fit. Barca was out of steam because they had no idea of what to do on the pitch. I remember vividly how analyst completely wrote off barca and they were right. Everyone knew bayern would qualify.
Besides, the Robbery squad(Ribery and Robben) were the best wingers. Oh Lord, we suffered.

Do you know that, barca struggled on the previous round against PSG that season. Messi had to come on with an injured leg to help us get a goal(he created the chance).

Correct me if am wrong but wasn't that the time Villanova was recently diagnosed with Cancer and had our inexperienced assistant take over?? I didn't even expect us to win that tie plus the fact Messi was injured. We went into that match on the downside and the only regret was just about how much we conceded over the two legs. We lost even before the tie started

tesppidd:
The only reason I have a fear about this game is Luis Suarez.

Luis Suarez is finished as a striker.
We don't have a striker.


Borrow us Auba or even Firmino and i beat my chest we beat Bayern.

Tbh,our board is very terrible. We can sign old man Pjanic that's on decline but can't sign Auba who is a tested and trusted striker that has shown that he can adapt for a lot less and will happily play with Messi behind him. If we insist on signing aging players,Auba will get us at least 20 goals for 3 seasons.smh

Taguchi:
When was the Last time Barca played a UCL game as clear underdogs

Don't think I can remember

Anyone?

I think that's to our advantage. We've buckled under pressure for the past two seasons as favorites so perhaps as underdogs,that pressure will come off. Plus Bayern have been very cocky this past few days and I have a feeling of 2015 happening once again

williams10101:
Having Griezmann in the lineup today was like playing with only 10men, my worry is how only Messi provides the attacking threat, with very rare glimpse from Suarez. Once Bayern can close down Messi, it's game over for Barça!

Can someone explain why rakitic got the nod ahead of Puig in the midfield? I thought of it and experience was the only answer I could provide. The penalty he gave away didn't reflect the 'experience' factor tho

Finally, going by Setiens lineup today, I wouldn't have my hopes up on seeing dembele against Bayern.

Which one is ten men again?? Griezmann did his job well today. He's hold up play was good and he tracked back.Didnt play any unnecessary pass.

See of us are just hating for no reason. Seeing the whole Rakitic criticism is just crazy. Maybe some of us didn't watch the game and just because we saw some highlight,we immediately assume he was bad. Alba,Suarez and Roberto were the players that played badly today. Saying Rakitic was bad but no one is talking about the fact that he assisted a goal. Nawa oo

FirstbornWds:


I'll prefer a wingback of both Roberto and Semedo.


Firpo is too slow.

Anything not Alba is welcomed by me tbh

Olamyyde:

He caused the penalty


Baba just dey pass back throughout just like at anfield.


He had a lot of misplaced passes. He also lost possession.


Alba was also mediocre.

As I said,apart from the penalty,he didn't put any other wrong foot in the game. He even gave an assist in this game and didn't pass back like you suggested. He may have been mediocre for a while but seen the restart he has stepped up and played well today

haymekus:


Baba was just running up and down, no real dominance, no key pass, no control


We midfielder that will stamp their authority on games

Vidal was our best player at Anfield and Valverde had sense in that match,should have removed Coutinho and played Arthur. Switch Arthur and Vidal so Vidal would cover Alba and that game would've been done and dusted. Klopp saw that Alba was our weak link and pushed the ball through this position. Instead of Valverde to adjust accordingly like he did against Madrid by putting Vidal to help out Semedo who was having a hard time again Vinicus,he just left Alba was was mentally weak for that game. That was what cost us at Anfieldand sadly,I see us repeating the same mistake against Bayern

Firpo should better start against Bayern cause Jordi Alba is mentally unreliable. That confidence for these big games are gone from him and he will cost us another tie

Olamyyde:
As far as I'm concerned Rakishit should start packing his bags. I'm tired of seeing his horrendous performances in the Ucl.


He always displays disasterclasses in the knockout stages.


If only our r£tard president forced him out instead of arthur.

Rakitic played bad in this match?? What match were you watching?? Bar the penalty he conceded,he didn't put any wrong foot in the game.Drove the ball forward,passed excellently well. Please let us criticise constructively.

I don't see you saying anything about Jordi Alba that was wasting our balls going forward and was so slow tracking back. Couldn't pass the ball in the final third. That is where the real problem is not Rakitic

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NinjaMetahuman:
yeah beating school boys.. yen yen yen


When you met Liverpool last season , we all saw how it ended

Oga shut up and take your L. Giving excuses doesn't count

Why can't wee see that we have a problem with Jordi Alba?? Dude cost us last year and he's currently playing rubbish

5'2 is really short

post=91506762:

I haven't gone there yet, I will update you later

Ok bro. Quick question. What exactly is the govt doing in that area?? Are they building the roads or do they plan to develop the area. Please an aptanswer will be very much appreciated

lilyheaven:


This thing’s you are typing are unnecessary.
Have you seen asthmatic patient before?
There’s nothing to hide about asthmatic attack, if after eight years of marriage and he has no idea, it simply means they have a lot to do in their marital life.
If I’m the husband, I will feel bad for not being observant.

I already gave an example of men fathering other men's children and I don't see you saying why wasn't the men observant. Afterall there are certain physically attributes which could trigger suspections.

People have certain health conditions in which unless they tell you,you won't know.If she took her drugs regularly and didn't have those triggers, there's no way the man will know.

oluwaseyi0:


All this Mama's boy online wanna be alpha male

Your WIFE is not just any 'woman' I'm sure people like you will probably stay with a woman for 20 years and won't even know when she ever did period, infact you will defend a man that claim she didn't notice his wife was pregnant until the woman gave birth then go ahead to blame the woman for not telling her live-in husband that she was pregnant

Shut up. If his wife refused to tell him,had perfectly hidden the condition from him and there has never been a situation to suggest such,how on Earth will he know?? Women give birth to another man's child and hang it on the husband's head who lives with kids for decades without even suspecting anything. Wasn't he careless to have ran his own DNA on the kids to ascertain whether they were truly his. Dude stop being a blue pill simp by defending the wife.

oluwaseyi0:
If after staying with an asthma patient for 8 years you didn't know about it you should question yourself if you really deserve to be call a husband and a partner, it shows you are a completely absentia and unless man. The woman deserves something better

I won't be surprised if on your daughter wedding day is when you will discover you child has been asthmatic all along, but deadbeat absentia father like you can't be in the know of such obvious things

SIMP. Defender of women affairs

post=91506207:
Services sector accounted for 67%, while agriculture accounted for 22% and industry, 11% in states

Bro,how far that Obelagu/Nkisi Onitsha erosion project that the govt is carrying out?? Any major news or latest pictures on that will be very much appreciated