TechSpot:


Thank you.

I have not been able to proceed with my baby's RG registration cos the Poupatempo's office is closed till April 30th due to the Covid 19 so I wanted to share my update with you. Is there any other way to go about it?

Hey TechSpot. Thanks. What is RG please? I’m not familiar with this word. Thanks

TechSpot:


All the information you need to apply for the Visa is on this thread. I just finished reading the thread from Page 1 cos my Baby girl arrived so I needed to refresh on the necessary documentation information here. It took me a day+ to do that, I advice you do too.


Let me give you a breakdown of living cost/ "getting yourselves to Brazil" cost cos that seems to be the only part of your question the thread does not seem to contain:

Visa Application cost: = 36,000NGN
Cheapest Flight to GRU, Sao Paulo: = 385,000NGN, about 450,000NGN to GIG, RJ.
Modest apartment in Sao Paulo with Bills (water, gas, electricity, cable/wifi): = 120,000NGN / month
Feeding: 50,000NGN per person per month.
Transportation Bus/Metro/Uber 50,000NGN/month

*NGN (Nigerian Naira)

The breakdown is just to give you an idea of what it cost to get to Brazil and to keep yourself sane. So make sure you have a good bank balance to show you can actually get to Brazil, survive the number of days you applied for comfortably, return home and your 'short' vacation wont dent your bank balance.


@adjo10... Kindly pick my PM call

Hello TechSpot. Thanks for trying to contact me and congratulations. I will kindly ask that you post your questions here so everyone who has an answer can assist. Unfortunately i do not answer personal emails from Nairaland.

I kindly hope you understand. Congrats once again on the birth of your baby. Thanks

afelouz:
Hello everyone,

About three weeks ago, we welcomed our son and I immediately kick start the PR process.

Congratulations afelouz. Thanks for sharing. You have done your very best for your children and they will thank you for it. Stay blessed.

This is a big encouragement to us all. Cheers

Namae:
Congrats Afelouz. I celebrate with you.

I also have an update.
So a scan today confirmed I had lost my 12 weeks, 3 days old pregnancy.
So, I guess this is where this present birthing journey ends for me for now.
But it isn't over.

I don't know what use my visa will be of if it is eventually approved, its been since January and no invitation for interview yet.

Ideas are welcome.

Thank you all.

I’m very sorry for your lost. God’s time is the best.
I pray for strength as you go through this difficult times. Love from us

Good day Fam. If my memory serves me right, i think we have members here who have given birth already and have already applied for PR by now. It will kindly be nice if you could give us the latest info on the process. Thanks in advance. Cheers

awash:
Hello house,

Am pleased to see the page i opened been active with information on giving birth in Brazil. My special thanks to @Adjo10, @samuelsoma, @ajokeomo and others for the contributions. I hoped i got the information earlier for my baby but unfortunately wasn't able too.

I have been following the thread for a few days back really appreciate the knowledge, though need more information on Documents needed for PR and also if you are to get Police Report from your Country or in Brazil

Hello awash. It is great to hear from you. The threat you created has been a blessing to many. Thank you very much. I think i have already posted the required documents for PR. Please click on the posts or something. Sorry I’m not too good with computers.

For the police report, you have to provide a police report that is not more than 90 days old at the time of submitting your PR application online (provided you are already in Brazil at the time of the online submission). The police report must be from your country of citizenship and any other country you have stayed in for 6 months or more in the last 5 years (not visited but stayed in for 6 months or more).

You don’t have to submit any police clearance for Brazil no matter how long you have been there. This is because your application will be filled at the Policia Federal, which in turn does an automatic police clearance check on you for Brazil as part of the PR approval process.

All police clearances must be legalised or Apostille and translated into Portuguese by a certified translator in Brazil.

Cheers

chriscole:
Okay guys stay away from royal air maroc am talking to the women especially maybe the guys can risk it unless you are Arab and can speak Arabic fluently.
The aircraft was weird no charging port old ancient movies food was okay with zero leg room
Luggage was well handled and the VO @GIG didn't check my return ticket I almost cried lol I blame Samuelsoma lol one last thing I thank God for Google translate...

Nice one. Now here is the reason why most people who have returned tickets are almost always never asked by the VO. When booking your ticket, you may or may not notice that Brazil is one of the countries that ask for information about arriving passengers from the airlines. We often overlook it. So you are most likely not going to be asked because the VO knows you have a return ticket.

You will most likely be in trouble if you don’t have. Americans, Europeans can take that risk and talk their way out but a Nigerian + no returns ticket = disaster lol. Don’t risk it.

Cheers

iwanvisityankee:
@Adjo10,
Regarding the document upload, since one has hard copies of all the required documents, which document among them need to be uploaded. Thanks

Hello iwanvisityankee. The list is this long because different Brazilian consulates ask for different documents depending on the conditions of the country they are located and the type of visa being applied for.

Please upload those documents stated by the Brazilian consulate in the country where you are applying from. Cheers

Namae:



Thank you Afelouz, she did just that and will be submitting by early February.
This thread seems a bit dull, so let me share my application submissiom experiences.

Nice one Namae. Every visa interview i have ever attended (for various countries); (thank God i don’t have to attend any of them anymore), I have come to the sad realisation that the rudest people are our fellow Africans at the gate or receiving applications in this case.

This is super ironic because, their attitude is the direct opposite of how Brazilians behave in general. Brazilians are one of nicest people on the planet and these guys at the gate have actually never been to Brazil before trust me.

Nice story. Cheers

chriscole:

Do you pay the fine when applying for PR or when you traveling out of the country?

You pay the fine when applying for PR. Cheers

chriscole:

Please am trying to book a flight with royal air maroc they'll be making a stop at casablanca will I need a transit visa?

And the issue of return ticket since am going for the PR I'll be spending nothing less than 6 months to a year maybe so how do I go about it?

Generally, if you are not leaving the international area of the airport and you are only connecting to a flight, then you don’t need a visa. I will however suggest you contact air Morroco to be on the safe side.

You need a return ticket because you are going in as a tourist. You can cancel your ticket once you enter Brazil. The immigration officer at the point of entry can refuse you entry without a valid return ticket. Some officers check, some don’t. I advice is to purchase a return ticket to be on the safer side. We personally lost money because our return ticket was refundable. The officer never checked but that was the price we had to pay to give our child options in life. Don’t risk it. Cheers

OneNaija:
Adjo10, Which cities between Porto Alegre and Curitiba is the best to live, Rent, Standards of living and Education you would prefer?

I will personally choose Curitiba. It is classified as one of the best cities in the world.

TechSpot:



Yes, Like mine is 90days validity

Well said. Also note that for Nigerians, you can extend it for another 90 days at the Polícia Federal office in Brazil. Just make sure that when you go for your renewal, you still appear like a tourist if your baby is not yet born. If they suspect that you have other motives than being a tourist, then they will not extend it for you because your original visa itself is a tourist visa.

Cheers

sappy1981:
Good day Adjo10 - você é uma bênção

I want to also know if the validity of the visa is 1 year of more to aid in my preparations.

I hope i am not bothering you.

In most cases, the visa is valid for 1 year and you can stay in Brazil for a maximum of 180 days within that one year. There can however be exceptions where it can be issued for a shorter period.

sappy1981:
Good day my great family. I would like to ask some question. Abeg make nobody yab me oooooo.

1. For people travelling with toddlers. How can one cope with the language barrier and i hope a new language wont confuse the little one.

2. Can one get a nanny there to help with the new baby as i might not have a support system coming with me.

3. @ Auntie Adjo10; is it possible to make payments for Private hospital care whilst in Nigeria.

Obrigado

1. New language confuses everyone lol, even adults. But children can quickly adjust and it makes your children open minded by being outside their comfort zone.

2. Yes

3. Not recommended. Get here first, visit the private hospital yourself and ask for a tour of the facilities and secure a better deal.

Cheers

sappy1981:
Good day my great family. I would like to ask some question. Abeg make nobody yab me oooooo.

1. For people travelling with toddlers. How can one cope with the language barrier and i hope a new language wont confuse the little one.

2. Can one get a nanny there to help with the new baby as i might not have a support system coming with me.

3. @ Auntie Adjo10; is it possible to make payments for Private hospital care whilst in Nigeria.

Obrigado

Hello sappy1981. Thanks. I would clarify something general then answer your specific questions.

First and foremost your Brazilian baby passes on PR and or Provisional citizenship to both parents, siblings- (past, present and future) and grandparents irrespective of where the category of people mentioned were at the time of birth. This means, your other children will qualify for PR even if they don’t accompany you to Brazil at the time of birth.

To however apply for PR or Prov Citizenship, they will have to visit Policia Federal in Brazil for application. So in summary, you don’t really have to take them along now if you have the option of leaving them with their Dad in Nigeria. The most important thing is that your baby is born in Brazil. They older children can always obtain a family reunification visa at the embassy later to come to Brazil to apply for their PR or Prov Citizenship. The embassy cannot deny them because it is their constitutional right. This fact i just stated is valid as of today and it will be valid unless anything changes in the mere future.

If you can take them now, them please do but if you can’t please don’t force yourself. The most important thing is that your newborn is born in Brazil, everything else is “easy” after that. Cheers

uchman:


Brother,
What's the survival tip in Brazil for a guy waiting for his wife to give birth?

The surviving tip is to take good care of your wife and to be born child and make sure they are as comfortable as possible. The future of the entire family depends on these 2 people. So come to Brazil with enough money and time and look after your family. Everything else will fall in place when your baby is born. That baby is the key and do not play with that key. My humble view . Cheers

afelouz:
Thanks alot.
One more thing, I have been searching for a language School Where I can learn Portuguese here in Sao Paulo and the ones I have been seeing online are too expensive, they also charge weekly, Lol.
Is there a free or affordable school I can attend??
Remember I don’t have protocol or a PR yet, I’m just a tourist for now.

I understand. The reality is that as a tourist, you will have to pay especially that you are competing with the same classroom space with Western tourists. You even pay more for accommodation as a tourist lol. Things will only change after the little angel is born.

Unfortunately, i don’t know of any affordable one but you can ask your Airbnb host. They are usually super helpful. Cheers

afelouz:


Good day and thanks for your well wishes. I think by far this is the best decision I have ever made.

I have some concerns regarding the PR application based on the brazilian baby.

Presently, my wife Int’ Passport has her fathers name as her surname and her birth certificate. We are yet to change the Int’ passport to my surname. I know there wont be an issue having my surname on the new born birth certificate as im physically present in Brazil but is it advisable to change my wife’s name to my surname for the PR application? if yes how best can we go about it.

I came with our marriage cert that is legalized at the ministry or foreign affairs. Thanks alot

Hello afelouz. Your wife not having your surname is not a problem at all in PR application. In fact, you guys don’t even need to be married to apply for PR base on your baby. So far as both of you are the parents, you can apply for the PR.

If you guys already had plans to change your wife’s name to yours then that is another thing all together. For that, i will personally recommend you guys waiting until after the PR application. Your wife’s name must match that of her passport and birth certificate. Of course she can legally change her name but if the legal name change has not yet taken place, then please let her us the name on her passport to make things easier for you guys. Both my husband and I have different surnames but we got our PR and now citizenship without any problem. Cheers

Queenbeloveth:
Good morning, please like how much can one have in his/her account to be able to apply for tourist visa? Thanks

Good morning Queenbelovet. Sorry I have no idea. The Brazilian Consulate did not specify any amount. Thanks

juliusocean:

I was chatting with someone in Brasilia he was explaining the process he kept referring to it as a family

This is going to require a very long explanation but let me try and make is simple for you. In fact there is no more RNE. The 2017 immigration overhaul changed the name and category of many things. Since 2017 RNE as been change to CRNM card. Your CRNM card will have an “RNM” number on it. You will never receive a visa inside Brazil. What you receive is call CRNM card or residency card. Since 2017 there is a new category of naming of residency permits. There are 3 categories: Temporal residents (Students etc etc), Resident (Formally know as Permanent Resident) and a 3rd category i don’t even remember the name.

So in short, your CRNM card will have a classification of “Resident” written at the back. Don’t be sad, that is actually your PR just that the name “Permanent” has been deleted according to the 2017 immigration law. To receive the “Residente” status, you must meet the requirements just like a person applying for PR in the past. There a many category of people who can receive PR (now “Residente”) in Brazil. These people are parents of a Brazilian child, investors, professionals with special skills and the spouse of a Brazilian.

Here is what confuses people and they keep referring to it as a family reunification residency card. Like i said, many categories of people qualify for PR and PR (Residente) leads to citizenship. Even though you will have the same PR as someone else, you are still not equal in terms of the duration of the PR card (CRNM card) itself, and the amount of time you have to wait to apply for citizenship. Your PR card(CRNM card) as a parent is valid for 9 years, that of an investor is valid for 2 years etc etc... Whiles you have to spend only 1 year in Brazil to get citizenship, an investor has to spend 4 years. Remember that you both have the same physical looking PR card in hand which is blue-green in color while temporal residents is another color all together.

Now, to differentiate your PR card with other PR cards, since there is no physical appearance difference, there will be a little writing at the back indicating the section of the immigration law that applies to your PR card. So yours will be that of family reunification. This is to make sure your application for citizenship is after 1 year of residency and not 4 or 15 years like others who have the same PR card.

Voilaaaa... some people call it family reunification permit or whatever. At the end, the name doesn’t matter. It’s the value of it.

Let us know when you get your card so that everyone here will understand if the information I’m providing is correct or not. Cheers

juliusocean:
@Adjo10 Feliz anos novo
I wanted to know applying for a permanent residence is it different from applying for a family reunion visa in Brazil.. They both very similar

Happy new year juliusocean. Hope this year is full of blessings to all of us. There is nothing like family reunion visa inside Brazil. Like the name “visa” suggests, visas are only issued outside the country you want to enter. Maybe you meant something else. Cheers

TechSpot:
Special thanks to all the contributors on this thread especially her Excellency @Adjo10, @afelouz, @ajokeomo, @samuelsoma.

Thanks to you all cos I got the visa.

Congratulations. God bless you.

afelouz:
Good day house.

So I arrived Brazil with my family last week. We came In through Rio GIG airport and everything was smooth.
Initially the plan was to head to Floripa but I realized its not going to work so I made plans for Sao Paulo and here we are.

Special thanks to @adjo10 @Samuelsoma @ajokeomo and everyone who contributed to this thread. Thank you all

Congratulations afelouz and to your wife. Well done. I am happy the year is ending well. Please take good care on Mum and baby. Let them be as comfortable as possible. You have taken a wise decision that will change the course of history for the future generations to come. Your children, their children’s children will be grateful to you and your wife.

Feel free to always contact us here if you have any questions and also update us on the latest. Best

MrBrownJay1:


Floripa is a seasonal island...during the summer month (nov til march) the city quadruple in population and gets all the tourist from SP, RIo and Argentina therefore lots of tourism jobs (hotel/tour guides/sales etc) but as soon as the season is over, then its right back to being "boring" as a city IMHO.
it also really depends on what languages you speak... if you speak Portuguese and English then you can easily find a job in a hostel/restaurant/bars or better yet start a small biz selling something original on the beach (although the sun aint for the faint of heart) but you will be surprised to see how much money you can make from buying a cooler and selling cold beer on the beach. depending on your background, you may also go to the foreign companies established in Floripa (or Brazilian companies that do business outside of Brasil) to drop your CV (you got nothing to lose). go to all the major hotels on the island to drop your cv and same with the countless hostels. most tourist stay closer to the beaches of Canasvieiras or Campeche while the city center is on the opposite side of the island, so you have a very wide area to drop CVs, but stay positive and always try to speak Portuguese even if you dont know much, it will show that you wanna learn and are trying. if you dont speak Spanish then i suggest you learn it if you want to stay in Floripa longer. btw the state of Santa Catarina is huge, and you should check the job ads for nearby cities, like Camboriu/Lages and further away.

check websites such as INDEED .com.br, TRABALHABRASIL .com.br, FLORIPAEMPREGOS .net, OLX or good ol' Floripa Facebook groups

meet locals, make friends with the locals as they know more about whats happening than us, and may be of more help than anything we may think of.



just cheer for the country that makes your heart beat the fastest, it will be a fantastic day regardless. i went to the France/Nigeria match during the WC in Brazil (I am born and bred from Paris) and although my heart was equally on both sides, i wore my French shirt and partied with my Naija brothas and sistas at the stadium, like there was no tomorrow (even though most Brazilians were cheering for Nigeria). if Nigeria ever eliminates Brazil in a WC match in Brazil, then unless you wan die, i suggest you jejely remove your jersey and quietly go home without celebrating.

Well said. I guess i will have 2 jerseys in my bag and wear them according to who wins lol because if Nigeria should win against Brazil, i don’t think i will make out of the Stadium alive. The way football is important in Brazil

Cpearl4u:
Thank you so much for your untimely efforts in answering all questions posted on this thread, I have read this thread over and over again but I still have a question. Do you have any idea of the current thriving jobs or businesses in Florianopolis precisely, I’ve checked online, saw mostly English teaching jobs and tour guide jobs. If you don’t mind can you kindly tell me other types of jobs or businesses that might boom their. Thank you.

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Yea i can understand. But it is best to go for PR because it is the best way of ensuring that you don’t go through all these visa issues again next time you want to give birth in Brazil. PR is somehow an assurance that your future children will be Brazilians at least. It is worth the fight.

Unfortunately, most if my friends who gave birth heard about Brazil late in their pregnancies so they came in a rash. They had no time to plan well. So it will definitely take them longer to get their citizenship. Most people think of US or Canada when it comes to giving birth. But they will make it at the end. They will all wave the beautiful Brazilian flag one day. At least before the next world cup lol. I wonder who i will support if Nigeria and Brazil should face each other at the World cup

Cheers

Sorry have no idea about jobs in Floripa. Thanks

Cjleks:


when you say they had no time to plan well what actually do you mean?

How does not planning well affects the duration of them becoming citizens?

Which city did you give birth?

Good question. Naturalization requires you to have PR. The only exception is if you have lived here continuously for 15 years. Applying for PR requires you to provide specific documents, translations and legalisation. If not well prepared, this can take you an eternity. So ultimately, you are delaying your naturalization process by delaying your PR. Note that, the number of years required for you to naturalized starts from the date you receive your PR card and not from the day to entered Brazil.

Secondly, after PR there is a language requirement to naturalization. If you don’t plan well, you will spend 10 years here without getting to the required level for naturalization.

chriscole:

I feel most people don't really go for the PR tho, due to the language issue and all they just want to secure the child and they fall back after birthing... How about your friends who applied hope they made it through are they citizens now? The wait is not easy o

Yea i can understand. But it is best to go for PR because it is the best way of ensuring that you don’t go through all these visa issues again next time you want to give birth in Brazil. PR is somehow an assurance that your future children will be Brazilians at least. It is worth the fight.

Unfortunately, most if my friends who gave birth heard about Brazil late in their pregnancies so they came in a rash. They had no time to plan well. So it will definitely take them longer to get their citizenship. Most people think of US or Canada when it comes to giving birth. But they will make it at the end. They will all wave the beautiful Brazilian flag one day. At least before the next world cup lol. I wonder who i will support if Nigeria and Brazil should face each other at the World cup

Cheers

I think, It will also be nice to hear from those who recently gave birth here. I think we have few of them in this thread. How was your PR application? Cheers

juliusocean:



Spoken like a real G
Allow me to ask why do Africans like asylum
I don't like the word asylum it's a huge turn off for me I just stopped watching

I stopped watching too lol