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Religion / Re: The Afterlife- Fact Or Fallacy? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:58pm On Jul 10
MaxInDHouse:

People going to the hospitals for treatment do die there because they aren't responding POSITIVELY to treatment likewise some failed because they are not responding POSITIVELY to their Bible study yet if someone should ask you where to take a sick person you will still insist that the patient be taken to a hospital.

Do you understand now? smiley


This is amazing
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:47pm On Jul 02
NairaLTQ:

It seems you dont know that Yehoshua is a very common name in Israel.
YHWH is only one and only one person can be YHWH

Why don't you mention the common name then?

How do you pronounce YHWH
Religion / Re: God Used Dust To Create Human, What About Animals ? What Did He Use by Aemmyjah(m): 8:56am On Jul 01
Animals were made from dust

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Religion / Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 8:51am On Jul 01
johnw47:


oh duh very dum one, it's better than yours which is fool


lost false jw aemmy

i see you are still posting in mad max's stupid thread

This is an attempt by you people to malign God's people and it's something I wish he'll see and will act

My own threads are equally stupid threads where u people have come to do nonsense

You all combined cannot stand Maxindhouse in an intelligible argument

Worst you can do is act like hyenas, peddling lies and cracking pots
You have never dropped anything intelligent to build anyone's faith on Nairaland

Maxindhouse is my brother as long as he remains faithful to Jehovah. This thread is stupid cos of people like you
Religion / Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 8:43am On Jul 01
johnw47:


you agree with Christians that this mad max's thread titled: "The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven"
is a stupid thread, .... good




Max is not mad
He's my brother
And I love him
You're the ones who are making the thread stupid cos you act so stupid

If I say the House I live is in stupid, is it the builder that is stupid or how people behave?
If I say NL is stupid, am I blaming Seun Osewa?
Folly is your surname
Religion / Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 8:17am On Jul 01
johnw47:


especially in this stupid mad max thread where he said;
Jesus began ruling in heaven in 1914 .... yeah i agree



Your surname is folly
Religion / Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 5:14pm On Jun 30
FxMasterz:


Now, regarding the Body of Christ. It did not start with Russel. The Body of Christ is bigger than any human organization. Meditate on that.

Who said it started with Russell
I see you've sold your reasoning to apostates who spit on your head and you're now trying to impress them
Continue

Pls don't tag me again
Especially in this thread
Religion / Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 5:13pm On Jun 30
FxMasterz:


When did I tell you not to mention me again? Was it in your dream? Quote where I ever said that.

So, you mean that in order to validate the Bible, you need to lie about the Bible to make it true? A lie is a lie even if you told it to validate God. God would never support it. Listen, no one needs to help validate the Bible. The Worst of God in the Bible validated itself. The Word of God in the Bible is a living Being. He validated Himself. The Bible is just the medium through which men access the Word of God. The Bible is written by men who are imperfect. But the Word of God is God. The Word of God does not originate with men. It is Perfect.

You don't know what you're saying
Old man like you

Who's the body of Christ?
If you say all Christians, why is there serious contradictions in beliefs and practices

You were the one that failed to answer a Muslim trying to discredit God's word and you said it was a mistake
Shame on you Sir
Religion / Re: Where Was God When He Created Heaven And Earth ? Can Somebody Answer Me. by Aemmyjah(m): 2:39pm On Jun 30
MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible God was never stationed in a place {Genesis 1:2} [b]the creation work started after God has created a being like Himself and both were moving to and fro [/b]but by the time God wanted to establish His sovereignty He commanded His only begotten Son and the creation of all other things began first with a place where spirits will stay with God: Heavens
And another place where other creatures (physical) will live: Earth
The only begotten Son of God who is called the WISDOM of God {1Corinthians 1:24} later explained! Proverbs 8:22-31

Hmm
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Religion / Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 2:35pm On Jun 30
FxMasterz:


Michael547, Janosky, Cornelboy, Aemmyjah, please take note. Maxindhouse said he has brought you new light. You guys should enjoy.

For clarity, the body of Christ consists of all Believers in Christ Jesus from the beginning of the New Testament era until the end of time. Even those that are asleep are still part of His body. They'll all resurrect to meet Him in the sky at His coming.

However, the expression used by Christ regarding the gathering of the Eagles to the body was talking about the rapture. In that context, Christ Himself is the Body, and the Believers are the Eagles who gather unto Him at His coming.


Luke 17:33

20-35


"Once, on being asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, “The coming of the kingdom of God is not something that can be observed, 21 nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is within you.”[c]
Then he said to his disciples, “The time is coming when you will long to see one of the days of the Son of Man, but you will not see it. People will tell you, ‘There He is!’ or ‘Here He is!’ Do not go running off after them. 24 For the Son of Man in his day will be like the lightning, which flashes and lights up the sky from one end to the other. 25 But first he must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation. “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all. “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all. “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. Remember Lot’s wife!
Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”

“Where, Lord?” they asked.

He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”



Are you in support of your brother's new lights? Can you see his lies and deliberate manipulation of scriptures? May God have mercy on you all.

Have u now seen why I call you my boy?
U told me to avoid conversations with you and you tag me

Is the so-called body of Christ today united
Are they completely loyal to Christ
Do they avoid wars and bloodshed and conflicts
Do they preach the goodnews of God's kingdom as only solution to man's problems
Do they honor God's name


Not everyone calling themselves Christian act like one and Jesus said he will dismiss many as criminals

I only know one body of Christ


So don't tag me in this stupid thread of you're not ready for what you don't like

A so called Christian like you that cannot answer a Muslim but invalidate the Bible and attribute errors to it
Religion / Re: The Year 1914 When Jesus began ruling in heaven by Aemmyjah(m): 8:15am On Jun 28
MaxInDHouse:
In the illustration of EAGLES and BODY Jesus was so articulate in his use of words that he never said "BODIES" as in many but one "BODY" likewise he never said "EAGLE" as in one but "EAGLES" which connotes many. Luke 17:37

Let it be known today that he was referring to his disciples in the last days whose eyes will be as sharp as of EAGLES these are members of a church all of us know as Jehovah's Witnesses today and the BODY they gather around to feed on their SPIRITUALITY is known today as the GOVERNING BODY.
In another illustration Jesus referred to this BODY as the faithful and discreet slave! Matthew 24:45

Whoever has ears let him listen! Mark 4:23


If you don't drop any comments on this group
It will do more good for us
Dropping comments make it top thread and guests will be seeing all these lies from these wailers. That's what they want to lead u to do
That's what we learned on Sunday
Better we leave this group for these people and focus on others
Thanks
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:22am On Jun 26
Ken4Christ:


Mark 16:17-18
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

If you can't do any of the above, you are not a believer period.

You just practicing religion without power. Empty vessel.

I have laid hands on the sick and they recover. One happened just today. The said lady has been sick for over a week. She has taken drugs and injection but she wasn't any better. I laid hands on her and in just a few hours, she has recovered.


Raising the dead nkor
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:35am On Jun 25
NairaLTQ:

What language did YHWH speak to Moses?
Did YHWH ask you to translate His name.


His COVENANT name is YHWH!
Don't bastardise it!

What language did Yehoshua Ma·shiʹach speak to his followers?
Did Yehoshua Ma·shiʹach ask you to translate his name

His covenant name is Yehoshua Ma·shiʹach
Don't bastardise it!

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Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:19pm On Jun 24
NairaLTQ:

Slaves of some old men feigning to know Christ but who can do nothing other than enslaved them.

Take heed that no one Deceive YOU.

But Sons Of perdition will entrust their souls in the hands of wicked impostors who assume to be Apostles of Christ whereas, Christ doesn't know them.

The covenant name of God is YHWH and you make it Jehovah even when the scripture is there for you to see in black and white.

Stupidly you ask me to read the JW publications in Hebrew or French: sorry, you are LOST . Go find Jesus!


Who made the covenant name of God Jehovah?
Before the modern day JWs began, people have not heard or read of the name Jehovah?

Languages and Dialects Containing the Divine Name in the Main Text of the Christian Greek Scriptures

Language or Dialect: Divine Name
Aneityum: Ihova
Arawak: Jehovah
Awabakal: Yehóa
Bangi: Yawe
Batak (Toba): Jahowa
Benga: Jěhova
Bolia: Yawe
Bube: Yehovah
Bullom So: Jehovah
Chácobo: Jahué
Cherokee: Yihowa
Chin (Hakha): Zahova
Chippewa: Jehovah
Choctaw: Chihowa
Chuukese: Jiowa
Croatian: Jehova
Dakota: Jehowa
Dobu: Ieoba
Douala: Yehowa
Dutch: Jehovah
Efate (North): Yehova
Efik: Jehovah
English: Jehovah
Éwé: Yehowa
Fang: Jehôva
Fijian: Jiova
French: IHVH, yhwh
Ga: Iehowa
German: Jehovah; Jehova
Gibario (dialect of Kerewo): Iehova
Grebo: Jehova
Hawaiian: Iehova
Hebrew: יהוה
Hindustani: Yihováh
Hiri Motu: Iehova
Ho-Chunk (Winnebago): Jehowa
Ila: Yaave
Iliku (dialect of Lusengo): Yawe
Indonesian: YAHWEH
Kala Lagaw Ya: Iehovan
Kalanga: Yehova; Yahwe
Kalenjin: Jehovah
Kerewo: Iehova
Kiluba: Yehova
Kipsigis: Jehoba
Kiribati: Iehova
Kisonge: Yehowa
Korean: 여호와
Kosraean: Jeova
Kuanua: Ieova
Laotian: Yehowa
Lele: Jehova
Lewo: Yehova
Lingala: Yawe
Logo: Yehova
Lomongo: Yawe; Yova
Lonwolwol: Jehovah
Lugbara: Yehova
Luimbi: Yehova
Luna: Yeoba
Lunda: Yehova
Luo: Yawe
Luvale: Yehova
Malagasy: Jehovah; Iehôvah
Malo: Iova
Marquesan: Iehova
Marshallese: Jeova
Maskelynes: Iova
Mentawai: Jehoba
Meriam: Iehoua
Misima-Paneati: Iehova
Mizo: Jehovan; Jihova’n
Mohawk: Yehovah
Mortlockese: Jioua
Motu: Iehova
Mpongwe (dialect of Myene): Jehova
Muskogee: Cehofv
Myene: Yeôva
Naga, Angami: Jihova
Naga, Konyak: Jihova
Naga, Lotha: Jihova
Naga, Mao: Jihova
Naga, Northern Rengma: Jihova
Naga, Sangtam: Jihova
Nandi: Jehova
Narrinyeri: Jehovah
Nauruan: Jehova
Navajo: Jîho’vah
Ndau: Jehova
Nembe: Jehovah
Nengone (or, Maré): Iehova
Ngando: Yawe
Ntomba: Yawe
Nukuoro: Jehova
Polish: Jehowa
Portuguese: Iáhve
Rarotongan: Jehova; Iehova
Rerep: Iova
Rotuman: Jihova
Sakao: Ihova; Iehova
Samoan: Ieova
Seneca: Ya’wĕn
Sengele: Yawe
Sesotho: Yehofa
Sie: Iehōva
Spanish: Jehová; Yahvé; YHWH; Yahweh
Sranantongo: Jehova
Sukuma: Yahuwa; Jakwe
Tahitian: Iehova
Teke-Eboo: Yawe
Temne: Yehṓfa; Yehofa
Thai: Yahowa
Toaripi: Jehova; Iehova
Tonga: Jehova
Tongan: Jihova; Sihova
Tshiluba: Yehowa
Tswana: Jehofa; Yehova; Yehofa
Umbundu: Yehova
Uripiv: Iova
Wampanoag: Jehovah
Welsh: Iehofah
Xhosa: Yehova
Zande: Yekova
Zulu: Jehova; YAHWE

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Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:20am On Jun 24
MaxInDHouse:


When iron meet iron one will surely bend!

He can pretend he knows what he's saying in the presence of atheists and Muslims but when he comes near a true disciple of Christ he will see his own emptiness.

I have adviced him several times to focus on the qualities a true religion should have but it's like he doesn't want it what matters to him is arguing to gratify himself so i left him.

Now he wants to engage me thinking it's about accusing the source of my understanding (JW organization) that he will use for his self gratification.

I remain humble under the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses but he not my match when talking about scriptural understanding any day any time!smiley


Don't mind him
Even the Jews of old or the Christians did not show independent thinking

The brothers in Galatia shower independent thinking and Paul wrote to them calling them 'O foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you that you did not obey the truth...'
Imagin me what these people would have said if the GB should write same letter to the brothers in Nigeria
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:30am On Jun 24
MaxInDHouse:


At times i just laugh at their presumptuousness imagine a misinformed churchgoer wanting to use illustrations!

He called someone a TODDLER which literally means myopic and childish, when i asked him how he came to that conclusion he said it's due to the attitude of one he labelled but at the same time he added another label WOLF which means predator in literal sense and both labels is due to the attitude of the same person!

Please what correlation is between a MYOPIC one and a PREDATOR? undecided


He can the very smart and logical when disputing with atheist and Muslims

But there's people that can tame him
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:02am On Jun 24
NairaLTQ:


Your governing body is opposed to

Gal 1:8:
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel to you other than the one we proclaimed to you, let him be accursed!"


No wonder, they said the covenant name of God is Jehovah rather than YHWH and you swallowed it line , hook and sinker!


Go and read publications in Hebrew or French, it is YHWH you will see there not Jehovah

The GB are not opposed to any part of the scriptures. We're well educated about God, Jesus, the Kingdom which was Jesus main message when he was here on earth. Your so called pastors are the ones that Paul is saying they are accursed with their fake miracles and prosperity message



Like the disciples of the first century, all of us are actively preaching the Gospel of the kingdom as Jesus foretold would happen in the last days

So rest
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:55am On Jun 24
NairaLTQ:

You say so!

I asked a direct Yes or No question

Do you worship God sheepishly?
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:54am On Jun 24
NairaLTQ:

Are you YAHWEH's witnesse or Jehovah's witnesses?

There's lands that they are known as Yahweh Witnesses. In English, it is Jehovah
In Yoruba, it is Jehovah
They are mean the same thing write

Do you believe in Jesus or Yeshua?
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:15pm On Jun 23
MaxInDHouse:


Just allow the two of them with the apostate following to reason together on what the Bible says you will see how confused they are! cheesy

It's same person
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:14pm On Jun 23
NairaLTQ:

Paul was saying that they should accept whatever he tells them without question!
SMH!

It's the same unclean spirit disturbing you and Muslims!


Should a Christian worship God sheepishly?
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:13pm On Jun 23
NairaLTQ:

Sometimes I wonder if there is an adult behind the keyboard!

Just check if this correlates with what I have been saying or this is your strawman!

SMH!

Answer the question and stop whining
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:12pm On Jun 23
NairaLTQ:


Your governing body is opposed to

Gal 1:8:
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel to you other than the one we proclaimed to you, let him be accursed!"


No wonder, they said the covenant name of God is Jehovah rather than YHWH and you swallowed it line , hook and sinker!

Proof the highlighted or remain a liar
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:33pm On Jun 23
MaxInDHouse:


It's the rebellious spirit that's killing him slowly!

How can someone abandon the religion of his own ancestors without being PREACHED to or talked to before switching lanes?

Even Abraham the father of all those having faith was called by God Himself Abraham didn't just abandon his pagan gods like that nah! smiley


TenQ
Answer the highlighted
Will you say it's by means of independent thinking

If you don't agree with Max on this, you have problems indeed
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:29pm On Jun 23
TenQ:

Why do you think they make themselves replace Christ in your life?


'... they make themselves replace Christ '
You're a joker. You should be doing AY LIVE grin grin grin

Did Paul and others replace Christ in the first century or they were acting as shepherds, governing body, giving counsel, directions?
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:26pm On Jun 23
NairaLTQ:

Why would the Apostles and Angels be included in this verse.
Shouldn't you just accept WHATEVER they say without question?

Gal 1:8:
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel to you other than the one we proclaimed to you, let him be accursed!"


This scripture is against you big time.

Paul was simply saying:
Verify what we are saying now with what had been said before AND if there is any difference, don't accept it.

What had been said before to us is the SCRIPTURE: and anyone Even if he is an Angel from heaven must be SCRUTINIZED with respect to the scripture.


You teach the exact opposite. Too bad!


Wrong
Paul was not saying they should compare what they said past n present
He pronounced a curse on anyone claiming to be Apostle or Angel

So were the Apostles united in their thinking regarding the gospel or they had their own independent thinking?

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Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 9:21pm On Jun 23
TenQ:

The point is that the Bereans VERIFIED from the scriptures whether the Gospel according to Paul was True.

Acts 17:11
"The Bereans were nobler than those in Thessalonica because they received the word with all readiness of mind and examined the Scriptures daily to see if what Paul told them was true."


1. Did you read that they sought from the scripture to see if Paul was saying the Truth?


How could you think that the name of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob was LORD? Didn't you attend Bible Studies in your former church?
2. The name of the God of Israel is NOT Jehovah but YHWH (Pronounced as YAHWEH). The Jews do not have a letter "J" in their alphabets.
Names like Elijah, John, Joshua are preceded by YA-
John = Yəhôḥānān = YAHWEH has been Gracious
Jesus =Yeshua = YAHWEH is my salvation
Elijah=YAHWEH is my God.

Exo 3:15:
"God, further said to Moses:»You shall say to the sons of Israel: 'YHWH, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.' YHWH THIS IS MY NAME FOREVER! This is my memorial-name to all generations."


So, if you are particular about the NAME of God, it is YHWH and not Jehovah (Greek)

Did God speak Greek to Moses or ask you to translate his name?



You are deceived by wolves in sheep skin whose power over you is complete when you cannot think for yourself.

Was independent thinking encouraged among Jesus disciples of old?
Yes!
1. This is why Jesus asked His disciples Questions like:
Who do you say I am? Matt16:15
Why are you afraid? Matt 8:26
Why do you not understand..Matt16:11

2. Are those who told you not to think for yourselves Infallible? Are they Jesus? Are they the Holy Spirit?

Why then must you entrust your soul to them rather than Jesus Himself?


Should it (independent thinking)
be encouraged today?

Yes

Because in the end times dangerous times will arise
Mat 24:4
"And Jesus answered and said to them, Take heed that no man deceive you."

When you submit you soul to an organisation or people, you are in danger of eternal damnation

1 Jn 4:1
"Beloved, do not trust every spirit , but test the spirits to see whether they are from God. For many false prophets have gone out into the world."

You are warned NOT to trust just anyone who claims to be speaking for Christ.

Mat 24:24:
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

Take heed because people will come and replace Christ as authority over your soul

Paus said you shouldn't even trust the Apostles sheepishly.

Gal 1:8:
"But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel to you other than the one we proclaimed to you, let him be accursed!"


Any organisation that forbid you from thinking is a CULT of Wolves in Sheep skin whose purpose is to lead you astray!


Why do you think they make themselves replace Christ in your life?



1. You answered this already in your first comment and it's not different from what I'm saying. Do you mean that in the Christian congregation of the first century, what the heard from the elders, missionaries, Governing Body is subject to whether it's wrong or right?

2. All the churches I went on Ibadan for 19 years said so. I was an usher, chorister, drummer. It was Lord they told us as they used references in the Bible. Abasi, Obong means the same thing in Efik and Yoruba

3. Pronounce YHWH lemme hear. The English word for it as it appears in some English translation is Jehovah. I don't know how Jesus was called in his time and I don't care but it's definitely not Jesus but that does not invalidate who I'm talking about. Same with John or whatever name you want to mention. Has your pastor or your yourself make God's name known as Jesus prayed?


You're not serious
You're not talking to Muslims and Apostate remember?

Jesus was asking their opinion and he praised Peter for his correct answer. Was Jesus trying to ask their own opinion or just encouraging independent thinking. If it were so, whatever anyone thinks of him does not matter and that would only bring about misunderstanding.


If Jesus Christ caution his disciples to take heed that no man deceive them. Is he not acting like a cultist as u said. Independent thinking should allow them listen to anyone and make any decisions they Wish.
Is Paul not also discouraging them to think for themselves?


If someone is questioning your authority as a father and teaching your son to do so. But you tell your son not to listen to such one. Are you or that person encouraging independent thinking on your child?

Is Christianity of the first century not also an organization? Should I define organization for you? In your own terms, all Christian then were in damnation


The GB does not encourage us to trust them sheepishly. Many of us don't even know any of their names or their number and that is cos we don't give undue importance to them which is unlike your own church where the Overseers are even more popular than the name of the church. The GB too will render an account to Jesus and Jehovah. Paul only said if they bring another message not in line with the scriptures. Why will I put faith in them if they are teaching outside?
Paul is not saying they should leave the faith even if one of the Apostles teach something different. One will not say ’Paul said something completely out of harmony with the scriptures, so I am not a Christian again, lemme go read my Bible at home or I'm gonna do my own things my own way'...


I don't submit my soul to the GB, mention one JW that does so
The scripture u quoted said they should test whether the spirit came from God. According to you, no spirit comes from God, all are false. You're looking ridiculous

The GB do not encourage us to listen to them sheepishly. They don't even encourage us to believe in the Bible, Jesus or God sheepishly. Don't you reason well? Does your child listen to you sheepishly?


You said our organization doesn't allow us to think independently
Now you say, they don't want us to think
The ridicule is on you
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:08pm On Jun 23
MaxInDHouse:


Exactly so did your own ancestors abandoned their pagan gods to accept this church religion without being PREACHED to? smiley

I wanted to ask him if the Eunuch kept some of his gods
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:07pm On Jun 23
TenQ:

Your comprehension of scripture is at kindergarten level.

A non Jew becoming a Proselyte is EVIL!?
SMH!
Of course, you don't know who a Proselyte is

Exo 12:47-49:
"All the congregation of Israel shall keep it. And when a stranger shall sojourn with you, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof. One law shall be to him that is home born, and to the stranger that sojournes among you."


A Proselyte is ANY non Jew who loves the God of Israel and decides to abandon the gods of his people and have only YAHWEH as his god and obey all His laws.

They didn't teach you this!!?


You don't know what you're saying
You think scriptures is like computer science

Is the Ethiopian Eunuch the only proselyte you know in the Bible? There are many
Is Ruth not also a proselyte


Bible says that he was returning from Jerusalem to worship
Did you consider what that means

Go and do research before you start to misyan

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Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:59pm On Jun 23
MaxInDHouse:


Of course he was preached to that's what made him a Jewish proselyte who believe in what the Israelite prophets penned down.
What he never heard is about Jesus of Nazareth who has come to fulfil the prophecies about the Christ and gone back to heaven.

Regarding the scriptures and about the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob all Jewish proselytes were PREACHED to before they became worshipers of the Bible God that's what Jesus said about the Scribes and Pharisees! Matthew 23:15

It's the Good News about Christ that those proselytes haven't heard! smiley


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Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:55pm On Jun 23
TenQ:

The Ethiopian Eunuch did NOT know ANYTHING about Jesus UNTIL his encounter with Philip. He was reading the Book of Isaiah and Philip used the same book to preach crucifie :Pd and risen Christ to him.

I don't know what your argument is about the Berean Christians.
Which of the three facts I presented was wrong and Why?
I SAID:
1. They did an independent STUDY of the Bible by THEMSELVES: they did not assume the Apostles cannot lie are say that which is UNTRUE.
2. They did an independent VERIFICATION of the Scripture by THEMSELVES: they did not assume the Apostles cannot lie are say that which is UNTRUE.
2. The came to an independent CONCLUSION by themselves through Reason , looking at the SCRIPTURES and they did not in the name of SAMENESS follow Doctrines of their Teachers.

Because of these, they were NOBLE

Any Organisation that forbids INDEPENDENCE of Thought, Reason and Conclusion on Scriptural TRUTHS is a CULT!


I never said he knew anything about Jesus Christ. Did I? Did he get to know about Jesus Christ by independent thinking or he was guided by someone?

1. True. But before they became Christians. So you assume the Apostles can lie right? Did the Apostles assume that Jesus can lie?

2. True. But the last word is your own thinking

3. You're not serious. Did Paul not play a central role which helped them to become believers? It's like me coming to tell you that your land is sitting on a water passage and building a house on it will be illegal. You do an independent investigation to see whether I am telling the truth or not. You see it was true and you refrain from building on it. If someone asked you what influenced you not to build there? Will you say it's your independent thinking or that you did investigation based on what someone told you. Will you say it was you cos I did not bring a map to start showing you things?

Lemme give a personal instance
I always thought God's name was Lord. I was shocked when Jehovah's Witnesses told me that it appeared over 7000 times in original manuscripts. I did my own independent research and it was so. I began to mention the name everywhere. Did any JW sit with me and told me what to search or how to search? No. Who guided me to know about God's name as Jehovah? It was the JW but my research only added to the conviction. Now that I'm a JW, should I adopt independent thinking cos everyone says God's name is Jehovah and begins to call him whatever I like? No...


I'm not a Muslim or an atheist
Now tell me,
Was independent thinking encouraged among Jesus disciples of old?
Should it be encouraged today?
Religion / Re: The Beroeans: What Can We Learn From Them? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:56pm On Jun 23
TenQ:

You are not much different from Muslims with telling blatant lies in twisting the scriptures to fit your preferred narrative.


The Eunuch came to Jerusalem for worship as a Jewish proselyte .

Acts 8:27-35:
"And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship, Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet. Then the Spirit said to Philip, Go near, and join yourself to this chariot. And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understand you what you read? And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him. The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth: In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth. And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray you, of whom speaks the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached to him Jesus."


He heard of Jesus for the first time through Phillip sir.

Did the Bereans study the Bible WITH the Apostles ?

No sir!

BUT, since your claim is that they were having Bible studies with the Apostles,
With which of the Apostles did they study the Bible with: Mr Liar!

With Judas!?


Actually
No one preached to the Ethiopian Eunuch.
Maybe someone did when he was in Jerusalem but the Bible does not mention. He may have heard about Jesus but he was not preached to
He was coming from Ethiopia and the goodnews has probably not reached there.
Note that the Eunuch himself said to Philip that how can he understand what he's reading unless someone guides him. Through Philip conversation, he was guided to learn about Jesus and get baptized.
How did he learn about Jesus? Through independent thinking or being guided by Philip?


You're wrong about the Beroans thing too
Now, Paul went to the synagogue to preach in Beroa. So, we can guess that his audience were the Jews there since it's Jews and Proselyte that worship in synagogues
Paul always makes references to the scriptures whenever he preaches to the Jewish audience (Acts 17:2)
The Jews who heard him and were familiar with the scriptures went back to examine the scriptures if what Paul told them was true. It was and they rejoiced and they became believers. Without Paul, would independent study or whoever is teaching them in the synagogue help them know about the role of the Christ and the resurrection? No.

How did the Beroans become believers?
By independent thinking? No
Did Paul play a part? Yes

Was it a Bible study? Well, he always make reference to the scriptures whenever he preach to the Jews since they were familiar with the Holy writings

Was independent thinking encouraged among Christians in the first century? See the following verses and examine the scriptures carefully to answer


2 Corinthians 13:11
Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with you.

Ephesians 4:3
earnestly endeavoring to maintain the oneness of the spirit in the uniting bond of peace.

Philippians 2:2
make my joy full by being of the same mind [/b]and having the same love, being completely united, [b]having the one thought in mind.


1 Peter 3:8
Finally, all of you have unity of mind, fellow feeling, brotherly affection, tender compassion, and humility.

So independent thinking was not allowed in the Christian congregation and it is not allowed today. Only apostates gave in to independent thinking and introduced sects and division

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