presido1:

Are u one?

See the other thread.

presido1:

Why are u always using the word!! are u one?

If u are one i cure Osu Syndrome and am very close to you so contact me asap.

One what? I am human being as is all of Ndigbo, no one is more or less than, your apathy is enabling the perpetuation of this abhorent act.

presido1:

It seems you have something to do with this OSU. Dont let it run you down ok.
You have been following all the Osu thread all over NL.

Because people like you wanna pretend it doesn't exist!

E menyere Nwogwugwu, e menyere Nwanosike, e menyerekwa daa Nnediya no n'ulo.
Treat everyone equally.

Does this include the so called 'Osu' as well?

Hmmn, I wonder if the so called Osu are allowed to take part in all this display of cultural pride!

I find this idea sickening, i have done my research on this and I just cannot believe in this day and age there are people who enable this disgusting practise by doing nothing. I amm shocked by some of the things I have read and to be honest I cannot believe that so called christians and God fearing people would be apathetic to the ongoing discrimsination of a people because of their ancestry, There was a time we black folks as a whole were subjected to this.


Some dude just told me that becuase I am not igbod I cannot possibly understand but that is patent nonsense, wrong is wrong. It'll take action from young people to change this abhorrent practice, so be pro active in you community!

Some people, be they politicians or chiefs or ordinary folks, have a vested interest in the perpetuation of the = status quo, I mean, the so called Osu are good to sleep with but no good enough to marry? hmmn, reminds me of some sorta plantation in in mississippi,

afam4eva:

@ all

Why are you equating Lagos with yoruba.

You can be a lagosian without knowing how to speak yoruba.

How can a yoruba person leaving in the north deny his yoruba heritage because he grew up in the north.You can claim to be sokotolite(or whatever) without being hausa.

@ Afrocynic

You with your therads about how Igbos are trying to claim lagos.

Afam, why do you always get your back up when someone mentions Lagos? I do agree that you do not have to speak Yoruba to be a Lagosian,

stillwater:

Hmm you're bringing ideas to my head. This would be a good way to look for my dad's trouble.

ooh do tell me more!

simmy:

men ofoka give it a break. afro beat u hands down

I beg someone help me tell am o.

Jarus:

There are hundreds of Yoruba in the north who will tell you they are from Sokoto, Zamfara or Kebbi states. They claim to be Hausa
They were born and bred there. Some still speak Yoruba fluently, some can't speak it fluently. Some understand and can speak Yoruba but don't like to speak it so as to gain acceptance among their Hausa friends. This was another amazement I came across in my service year in Sokoto. Yoruba claiming Hausa, and pretending not to understand Yoruba. One instance: I was in an eatery one day in Sokoto University Medical school campus. There was this lady sitting in my front. One guy, a friend of hers, was speaking to her in Yoruba but she was replying in English. After the guy left I asked her whether she was Yoruba and she told me she was Hausa, that just stayed with 'them'(Yoruba) and that was why she understands Yoruba. Her dressing, and intonation(both in English and Hausa) were plainly Hausaesque, so I was left in no doubt that she was actually Hausa.
But still curious, a couple of days later, I met the Yoruba guy again at the canteen and asked him whether the lady she was speaking with two days ago was Yoruba or Hausa. He told me she was a Yoruba girl. I was very surprised. So somebody can deny being a Yoruba, claiming Hausa for that matter. 
I later met many of them like that; they are Yoruba but born and bred in the north, so feel more comfortable and acceptable claiming Hausa. I met two other guys that I heard were Yoruba, but claim Hausa. One didn't know I knew but the other knew and spoke Yoruba(smattering, not fluent) tome whenever there was noboby with us, especially ladies. For the other one, I didn't want to burst his bubble, so I also pretended as if I didn't know he was Yoruba, so I spoke English to him always.

That's interesting, I definitely think that the person has a right to claim the identity he feels most comfortable with. It's just facsinating.

So your friend is free to claim Lagos if he feels more like a Lagosian.

Ah, I see. i find the whole thing facsinating, I will try to learn more. Thanks for the answers.

Who is Diala?

tpia:


If he's that worried about where she claims then he can always set her up with an Igbo guy for marriage, instead of giving her grief all the time. imo.

If she's a grown woman then isnt it a bit too late to lament about where and how she was raised?

Well her situation just got me thinking, I think it is wonderful if people are free to identify with where they feel comfortable as opposed to having an identity imposed in them. Her case is just odd because she is so adamant in saying she is a Lagosian of Igbo descent.

iReport:

Whats racist about it?. Did you also find his wish to help the poor in Africa racist?. It's a shame that a white man is looking out for your people when your fellow kinsmen will rather buy a jet with church money than help out his kinsmen.

Please see the post after the one you quoted.

Can someone please tell me origin of the red and white bauble hat? it seems unafrican, i do not mean this in an offensive manner but it just strikes me as odd.

To the above poster, I do not have a problem with it but her uncle gives her hell about it every time. To me, there is nothing abnormal about it, I'd just like to get other people's view on it.

tpia:

if you're Lagosian you can claim Lagos as well as any other part of your heritage you want to.
why do you feel it's abnormal for someone to identify with their state of birth?

ChinenyeN:

AfroCynic, you questions are welcomed.

1. You can't know who is and who isn't Osu, unless you're familiar with the different village communities, and/or the different families' histories.

2. Not very prevalent, if people are constantly hanging with them, dinning with them, accepting things from them, sleeping with them, and marrying them (all of which are traditionally forbidden).

3. There have been (there are) plenty.

Thank you.

One more, are people of 'Osu' lineage still maltreated in their communities?

I think so too but it seems to be controversial in some quarter though I do not understand why.

I have a friend always says that if she asked, she will say she is from Lagos even though her parents are Igbo. She speaks Igbo and Yoruba but she says she feel more like a Lagosian than some one from Enugu. I have no problems with but she gets a lot of stick from her extended family when they visit.

My question is this, do you think it is normal, ok, for someone whose parents are from another state to identify with their state of birth than their state of origin?

I am not Igbo, so please pardon the questions;

How would you know that someone is an 'Osu', is it by their name(s) or the village or town they come from?

How prevalent is discriminations against 'Osus' by young people?

Is there (or has there ever been) a prominent person who has been labelled 'Osu'?

agabaI23:

Why is it racist? Choose another adjective to qualify the 'no-contraceptive preaching.'

He has preached the same in Ameerica and other majorly while countries.

Perhaps you're right racist is a little strong but it is higly naive and destructive and in the end it'll be women of colour that suffer the most. I find that the church as well as preaching morality has to be realistic about the world we live in and I feel the anti contraception stance is not one that is conducive to the poor people in the most affected countries.

This issue leaves a bitter taste in my mouth to be honest but I think it is in line not only with the patriachial interpretation of religion but of African culture as a whole.

Can anyone tell me if Paul's letter were directed by God of if they were his own beliefs, thanks.

With all due respect, I am rather dubious about this pope and his anti contraception preaching, I find it kinda racist.

Chicbic, until you learn how to string words together you ought to leave me be, stop stalking me, it is getting boring now,

Read the opinions of the posters, and you'll see who the winner is.

chibic:

I thaught afrocynic was lyrically pregnant of twins/
but the stomach bulged n was basically stagnant from drinks/
apparent femenish lines, breast flat and pendulous/
said I'm a give it a good suck? shit! don't be credulous/

Lol, you keep trying hard, you're just not on my level, with your b.s. ryhmes.

afam4eva:

@ Afrocynical
So you are still in nairaland after what chibic did to you in the music section u still have the gut to stay on.
Anyway you can stay but play smart this time around and don't be the story of a pot calling a kettle black.

Lol, Afam, Chicbic is some weirdo who thinks she can rap, you gotta possess a certain level of skill before I respond ( a criterion she does not meet) or I'd have to be really bored and right now I am not, so we'll see.

I see you're still clinging to your myopic way of looking at the world, oh well!

M.J. is Igbira and she speaks five languages, one of which is Yoruba, she is going to be in a Yoruba flick this year.

Doris Akintimilehin? who is she, or do you mean Doris Simeon A.?

I love Nollywood right now, two out of the top five actresses on the English speaking side are non-Igbos i.e. M.J. and Ini Edo. That's some progress I suppose. Till last year, the top actress in the Yoruba speaking side of Nollywood was Fathia and she is not Yoruba, so there some progress being made all around, there just has to be some patience exercised by all sides.
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I think the fact that it is Igbo dominated stems from the mis-guided belief that they speak the best English , I think that is gradually being shown to be false but it'll take some time. (I am talking about the on screen side of it.)

Hey, Nollywood rules in the black diaspora and that is something that we can all be proud .

Try some online stores because those films are very old.