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mzilakazi: The truth is : Egypt has the largest sized defense industry in Africa South Africa has the largest defense products export sales Nigeria has the largest shipyard in Africa . 1 Like |
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africaken: I raised lots of issues and suggestions here about Somalia, AU, and AMISOM in the last 30 days, but nobody took me seriously. Now it's one setback or loss after the other for our side in this war. Anyway I have decided to keep quiet about Somalia war and mind my own business. I am safe in my house and winter snow is funtime with snowmobile speed machines. |
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Henry240: Fools have taken over South African navy, incompetent Zulus-Xhosas-Bantus-Cape Colony Coloreds, a total combination of born fools. The aparthied whiteman era navy purchased 22m T-Craft as IPV, the Zulus want to purchase 50m to 60m IPV.....LOL 60m is almost a corvette, LOL the slow speed will make pirates twin engined speed boats to outrun their navy boats...a LOL 60m will run aground to sea bed patrolling shallow coastal waters as inshore, he even said the IPV will be dragging undership towed array sonar around shallow waters, that one will get hooked to shallow seabed mud and sea weed !!! Mad people all over South Africa !!! Patchesagain: Officially according to South African navy, your current IPV is T-Craft 22m speed boats. Project Biro plan of 50m is an MPV technically. An IPV needs small size, super speed. Helmod Heittman your defence expert says the 50m-60m boats are a bad choice of size for IPV role. Why won't your navy make mistakes in procurement when your past and current navy chiefs of staff were declared not to be qualified sailors, why won't they buy the wrong boats? ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
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Patchesagain: So why does your navy sail around the sea in so many little speed boats? 3 units of 22m T-Crafts classified as SAN IPVs and 26 units of 10m Namacurra classified as patrol boats that are all even smaller in size than Nigerian Shaldags? So your navy bought about 30 USELESS speed boats? Either you or your navy, one is a fool ![]() 2 Likes 2 Shares |
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Patchesagain: Yes |
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Patchesagain: ...because you have none, or you have Shaldag interceptor class of boats? Your source says OPV and IPV, no MPV, means the 50m vessel is actually an MPV, almost a small corvette size, tbat's not an IPV by standard classification even NATO countries use 47m as MPV not IPV. VTOL craft? You never even got any OPV yet ! The drone will land on empty sea water? Towed array sonar, for what? There is NOTHING like that in the source you posted, SHOW US SOURCE for your never-to-arrive 23 years on paper OPV and IPV having anti-submarine towed array sonar, show us sources to prove that ! I am waiting for your towed array sonar evidence.....now !!!!! |
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Patchesagain: You posted old fleet. We have a huge brand new fleet. ● NNS Centenary brand new stealth ● NNS Unity brand new stealth, delivery 2016 ● NNS Zaria brand new stealth ● NNS Burutu brand new stealth ● NNS Dorina brand new ● NNS Andoni I brand new ● NNS Andoni II brand new, delivery 2016 ● 1 Survey ship, construction starts 2016 ● 1 Landing Ship Tank, construction starts 2016 ● 9 Shaldag Interceptors, brand new ● 6 OCEA FAB, brand new ● 60 X-38 Stealth combat catamarans, brand new ● 300 IPVs and amphibious landing crafts, brand new purchased year 2006-2012 ● 100 IPVs all brand new purchased 2016 Jan-Feb-Mar. Even NATO envies the size of our new fleet....and Indian navy cannot resist signing the long term joint maritime patrol operations with Nigerian navy, they cannot find any other navy like that in Africa. Please remind your SAN sailors not to overstay their one week visiting visa to India, tbey do not want you there more than those few days after which South African navy becomes useless to them. Don't follow Nigerian navy men around in India, we are staying long term, our level is higher than yours. . 3 Likes 2 Shares |
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jln115: Egypt has the largest and heaviest defence industry in Africa, they produce thousands of Abrams tanks, thousands of missiles and artillery, they also produce vehicle and aircraft engines, and tens of thousands of heavy calibre munitions like howitzer and mortar shells, tens of thiusands. South Africa is overhyped. |
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Patchesagain: About a total of 2 billiion Rands to be paid by SANDF to the team of 100 mechanics from tiny Cuba that teaches your army engineers how to repair vehicles your overhyped South African defence industry built inside your own backyard !!! Shame !!! 100 Cuban mechanics X 360,000 Rands X 3 years...add free house, free transport, free mobile phones = about 2 billion Rands total project cost of Cuban mechanics team. Show me a Zulu mechanic that earns that much in his life time !!!!! |
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Patchesagain: 60m IPV ? Even the great Shaldag Ocean Interceptor is abiut 24m only ? When standard MPVs measure about 40m ? IPV with towed array sonar that ASW Frigates struggle to carry ? Are you cräzy ? Okay SAN has not bought IPV in 30 years so you need to travel to Nigeria to see what a standard IPV looks like. 1 Like |
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Patchesagain: For what? I proved you wrong. You are a known liar all over Nairaland |
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Patchesagain: To export more into your market like they sold Gripen to you and make money from you by overpriced stuff |
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Patchesagain: IPVs are usually like speed boats dummy, or you use Frigate as IPV for inshore shallow waters patrol? Fool. Nigeria bought 100 IPVs in 3 months , South Africa is still seeking to buy 3 IPVs in 23 years ![]() ![]() India signed a long term joint operation deal with Nigerian navy, but for you, they gave 1 week visiting visas ![]() ![]() . |
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Henry240: Bang ! Super ! |
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Patchesagain: Nigeria is buying 1 new Survey vessel and building 1 news Landing Ship 2016. Nigeria just bought brand new 100 IPVs in 3 months of 2016, Jan-Feb-Mar 2016....you have not bought 3 IPVs after 23 years of struggle on project Biro....your navy is dead, that is why India bypassed you to sign maritime security working deal with Nigeria. |
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Thiza: Dude, THALES is an European company owned by France. They only opened branch in South Africa. They own you actually. If France withdraws the technology you import from them, THALES South Africa will collapse totally. Your long list of SA defence industries is mostly full of those producing police batons, uniforms, kit, etc The only strong companies are Denel, German Rheinmetall, French THALES, Swedish SAAB Grintech, British BAE, The rest are too tiny. Meanwhile, check out Nigeria's shipyards where we make IPVs, MPVs and soon to build a Landing Ship LST !!! I am sure you never expected such huge defence manufacturing and maintenance industry to be in Nigeria. Shock you !!! . 2 Likes 2 Shares
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Henry240: South African NAVY is 50% obsolete....Oh my ! This comment makes me start my weekend fun today, can't wait till Friday o ! . 1 Like
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Patchesagain: Which tank did SA build? Used by which army? In service from what year? What is the NAME of the tank ? ![]() ![]() . |
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jln115: 30 year old obsolete ship, big metal junk ![]() ![]() |
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Patchesagain: Nope, you NEVER posted it ! Each Cuban mechanic is paid 360,000 Rands per year plus free house, free transport, and free mobile phone, How many Zulu mechanics earn that much? Even your senior army officers earn far less than that ! 100 Cuban mechanics X 360,000 Rands X 3 years...add free house, free transport, free mobile phones....Show me a Zulu mechanic tat earns that much in his life time !!!!! SANDF is paying Cuba heavily because South African defence industry CANNOT repair it's own Samil truck product, you need Cuban help ![]() ![]() . |
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Patchesagain: Show us proof that foreign expatriates are cheaper than Zulus. Each Cuban mechanic is paid 30,000 Rands per month plus free house, free transport, and free mobile phone, How many Zulu mechanics earn that much? Even your senior army officers earn far less than that ! South Africa has NO mechanics capable of repairing the SAMIL trucks, your own home made defence products ![]() ![]() Show us proof that the Cubans are cheaper, show us the salary scale evidence or a source that confirms it. Liar. |
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Patchesagain: You make Rooivalk engines? Badger engine is from Finland. REVA, Casspir and other MRAP engines are from Germany....and so on ! SA defence industry is NOT self sustaining, you are as exposed to risk of war time arms embargo as any other African country ![]() ![]() . |
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Patchesagain: Nope, liar ! According to the official website of SAAB Grintek, the company is 100% SAAB of Sweden technology imported into South Africa, they have similar branches in Australia too !!!! "Saab AB-Sweden serves the global market with world leading products, services and solutions ranging from military defense to civil security. Saab has operations and employees on all continents and constantly develops, adopts and improves new technology to meet customer’s changing needs. Research, development and production are carried out in Sweden, South Africa and Australia. Saab in South Africa has capabilities ranging from electronic warfare, sensor technology, command & control systems, training systems, radio communication equipment, aviation, telecommunications and support solutions." http://www.saabgrintek.com/about.php Glory thieves, they want to steal Sweden's technology and call it proudly made in South Africa, later you will say you built Gripen jet and you built Volvo automobiles ! Thieves of Soweto ! .
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jln115: How is SA self sustainable? You import ALL vehicle engines for your MRAPs and IFV....you also import Cuban mechanics to teach SANDF how to repair your own SAMIL trucks that you claimed to have built locally, but need white Cuban boys to teach you how to repair and maintain your own product ![]() ![]() ![]() # FVCKING WRECKED |
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DieVluit: Show us the factory workspace of Denel where they make armoured vehicles, show us your own photos, foolish boy-girl |
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Patchesagain: You spend most of your money buying huge quantities of expensive anti-HIV drugs for your 30 battalions of half-dead HIV infected soldiers and paying fat salaries and wages to idle soldiers who fight no war, 99% of SANDF sleeps at home jobless ![]() ![]() |
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DieVluit: Fool, you entered Proforce factory to measure their workspace size? You just google searched and grabbed a tiny photo of 3 vehicles under production in one corner of the factory. Show us the factory workspace of Denel where they make armoured vehicles, show us your own photos, foolish boy-girl ![]()
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Patchesagain: Your Mamba APC is a simple machine too, how many units does your factory produce in a year based on installed capacity? It's a simple machine, even Ethiopia makes MRAP more complex than your Mamba. How is a tracked 4F APC simple? It runs on battle tank heavy steel tracks not rubber tyres, and you have no steel tracks APC production factory in the whole of South Africa. Nigerians make the 4F APC as DICON has technology trsnsfer, we stopped production because we have fulfilled the 250 units ordered by NA, if we get a new order today, we produce more, or is your own RATEL IFV fsctory still producing RATELs today? Fool ! South African defence industry CANNOT produce tracked APC, Mortar Carrier, Command Post armoured vehicles like Nigerian defence industry. We bëåt you on this one ![]() ![]() .
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Patchesagain: Nope SAS Drakensberg is a 6,000 ton ship empty weight. Nigerdock builds 10,000 ton ships empty weight. Thanks for confirming that ANC governmwnt law forced SAAB to employ unqualified blacks as directors under BEE...well SAAB remains 100% Swedish technology imported from Europe, never mind who holds shares in South Africa. Sweden owns SAAB. |
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mzilakazi: Okay, should I also add Nigerian companies that produce equipment for our private security and police too? We too have them aplenty. Show us the production factory and sales revenue of those your tiny tiny 100 companies and let us see how many of them can build a 10,000 tonne ship like Nigerdock and produce almost 500 armoured vehicles a year like Proforce !! ....and your website of South African 100 defense companies is showing SAAB on the list, so South Africa owns SAAB of Sweden ? Thief. Sweden owns their technology, you feed under their table, don't come here and claim Swedish technology as your own. Thief ! . 1 Like 1 Share |
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