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Religion / Re: Object Of Clarification, God Is Not You by APKevin(m): 10:50pm On Mar 14, 2006
Unfortunately enough we can always make a positive into a negative. I'm directing that toward the constant remarks toward every line of text we as believers right. The irony around what I said though is that you even made an atheistic belief of mind a false or negative statement. If oneself does not believe in a God then he/she will detest everything that one says. it is funny though that not matter how many people can surround a person and give a life experience or even show the existence of God to be true the person can never believe it. Reason, because he/she does not want to. This example is even showed to us by people who are in the "church" and say that they believe in God. although a belief in atheism maybe justified to ones only personal choice I ask you what is the proof or evidence in that belief. They have yet been able to find a link to a prehistoric man, for the supposed evidence they find is proven to be false.



P.S. I'll be waiting for the comment to comment response of my statement
Religion / Re: Object Of Clarification, God Is Not You by APKevin(m): 4:42am On Mar 10, 2006
@Kag
I don't see how the fact certain humans having mutations that others lack, is a problem for evolution. You seem to be under the misconception that it is individuals that evolve. In truth, evolution is the "change in allele frequency of a population, "

What is to determine these population affects? Yes the environment affects us in many different ways, but there is more to it then that. There is the mental environment on which we live in. This also can have a positive or negative affect in our lives; one that can cause a change within what we become. So a general population cannot be in complete correlation with one another. That makes it seem like there is some force that ties us together that our genetics are coherent with one another.

If I'm in a position where certain variables from the environment do not affect me as much (due to adaptation) as others, then the affects within my life would be completely afar from people around me. Not everyone is in the same life style or environment. Is there evolution that causes one to be immune to the negative affects of drugs (although I know your body becomes altered and tries to cope with the problem)? If so people have been drunkards for thousands of years (this is just recorded evidence, I’m sure this extends beyond what is recorded). Dont you think that things like this would cause a possibly change? That the body would be able to cope with the affects of alcohol. Now you may say what does alcohol have to do with evolution. This consumption is just like any other negative affect that can be inflected onto your body (Ex: getting cut).

REASONS WHY EVOLUTION does not make sense. First, if evolution is a continual growth in development that oneself becomes more optimum then the previous. Then how come I may over come a bacteria in my life, and that genetic code is not saved in order for the cells within the body to recognize the attack for my next offspring. We have been in disease for such an extended period of time, yet something like having the chicken pox and overcoming it can not be passed on. Now if you meditate on the issue, what causes your body to recognize a change that it would record erroneous affects so that the next offspring can uphold that optimum level of survival. If this where so then every negative aspect present we would continue to record and evolve. So we may ask ourselves, what requires change, what is suitable enough to make a change? You may say anything that causes degeneration within the body. Well, death causes degeneration, smoking, alcohol, the list can continue (these factors are also in the millions).

This shows us that a multitude of people does not affect what the outcome of the new evolved creature is going to be, the only possible variable needed is a continual negative event that would recur in that line of species. Evolution is only the belief for those who do not accept a divinity, or are not satisfied by one.

Unfortunately, we have to speak to each other in these terms. Rather, I would like to speak to you in a friendlier manner. Like why do I believe in God, or why do you believe in evolution. I really dont think what I may say is going to cause you to change your mind (although I hope), and im sure you believe the same thing toward me. Even though we are on opposite ends of the rope I would like to understand why you choose this path, and would love to discuss the principles you live for. I'm not just trying to evangelize I just want to converse, and get to know ya betta tongue.
Religion / Re: Object Of Clarification, God Is Not You by APKevin(m): 10:02pm On Mar 09, 2006
Unfortunately the thought of evolution does not justify itself. They still lack any evidential knowledge of making such as statement such as "Evolution". The only evidence they said was linking us to a prehistoric man was the Neanderthal. Even this was proven to be false, when the bone of a Neanderthal was excavated next to a Homo-Sapiens dating around the same time period. So where is the proof and evidence?

Let’s say that all of this was proven to be true though. That there might be an earlier period of man. Well if evolution is the passing of genetic DNA that causes change within oneself structure that is birthed in the new off spring from the inability to cope with the environment, then there should be more species of man. From what I hear people don’t believe evolution within man is still taking place anymore, since man has the ability to change environment. So from an evolutionist stand point you’re technically wrong, and from a Christian stand point you are still incorrect.

Lets even play with the word evolution a little more. If I was to continue to pass genetic data to my offspring in order to make a positive change within there lives from the negative ability to cope that I go through. There would be certain humans carrying genes that others lack. This would cause not one species of Homo-Sapiens, but rather many forms of humans. So evolution does not justify itself on the principles it stands on.
Religion / Re: Religion Befuddles The Mind, Its : Mindless. =/ by APKevin(m): 10:33pm On Mar 06, 2006
If I must say so myself, reading these post dumbfound me on the eyes of what "Christians"(me being a believer myself) say and "atheist" alike.

More people talk about their own personal beliefs about how life should be and what they see out of life, then the truthful facts of what is going on in the world, and the lives of others. As a "religion" Christianity is something that is a joke, because no one can keep something they live just out of command. I do not believe in religion, I believe in a lifestyle. A lifestyle that professes the name of God not out of law, but out of love; for that is the true Christianity.

The reason why you see the people doing radical acts in the name of "God” is because they cannot channel their anger in the right way that the bible teaches them. They are without no true foundation of love in the Word of God. For the word tells me that I should not JUDGE others (Matthew 7:1-6), that I should turn my cheek in times of anger (Matthew 5:39b), that I should not be angry without cause (Matthew 5:22-24), and I can continuously speak the truth of what the word professes. Unfortunately the people who say they are "representing" God are not justified by their actions, so do not let them be something that taints our name. Instead, overcome evil with good (Romans 12:21)! For those of you who say that religion is the "root of all evil", justify your malicious gibes at what the word says that is erroneous or fallible. I will me more then glad to listen and respond.

To the people who say "singing and mumbling prayers", do not comment on what you don’t know. For religion is following a template of laws that "mumbles" premeditated prayers. But true fellowship with the Father (God) is something just as genuine as taking to your best friend. I do not appreciate that comment.
Religion / Re: Is Suicide A Sin? by APKevin(m): 5:04am On Mar 06, 2006
Just to clarify all the conflict that is going on right now. This is a life, not a debate team. Let’s keep matters of religious belief where religious beliefs are due. You don’t need to evangelize to this question; he asked for the bible we shall give him the bible.

First the bible says in the Ten Commandments that "You shall not murder" (Exodus 20:13 KNJV). Although you may say this is not murder your taking something that is not yours. The bible says that we were bought at a price (1 Corinthians 6:20), and we are that property of God. So by committing suicide we are not just murdering ourselves, but stealing from God. Also the bible says in 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 "Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone defiles the temple of God. God will destroy him, for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are." Notice the statement said that "if anyone defiles" meaning that you can commit that defilement yourself, showing that any negative alteration to what your body is a sin.

I also what you to know that God has a great calling for all of us. He has given us all gifts and abilities, not just to use for ourselves but for others. That’s why there are people who sing, dance, worship, in the edification of the church ( believers) that we may all grow strong as one body of Christ. So by anyone committing suicide the body of Christ is suffering. So know that there is a reason why struggles are in our lives, for through it the wisdom and knowledge will be gained to help others. Also to say this that the Lord does not give you anything you cannot bear. Although the situation is unknown to me, there is a way to continue to cope. Just believe God always delivers. 1 Corinthians 10:13 "God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape that you may be able to bear it."
Religion / Object Of Clarification, God Is Not You by APKevin(m): 3:51am On Mar 06, 2006
As I go on reading the post and comments of people and their beliefs towards Jesus and God. I notice one flaw within all their arguments. This one FLAW is the fact that they assume how God should be. Saying things such as "if Jesus was really God he would do, or say, ". Well just to direct the answer to these arguments you are not Jesus nor God (although one in the same). So understand that we do not know the reason behind why God does something the way he does. But just like Peter did not want Jesus to go die on the cross because he did not understand the reasons behind the way Jesus acted. We need to understand that the way God did something was for his purpose and for that purpose not to be altered and accentuated into "oneself" only beliefs.

If anything we should come into agreement that there is something greater out there. That man did not evolve from a "theory" of evolution. If you have a comment to say about your personal "beliefs" toward a religion, state them. But do this not to gibe, but rather to inform oneself of the way they believe in. For if we understand that Jesus came not to condemn, not to argue, but rather to do the will of the father, and bring the laws to light. Then we would know that as "men" and "women" of God our purpose is to spread the truth, not argue it. This is why Jesus at times did not reveal his deity through words, because he recognized it would be a waist of breath, they would come against him anyways. The people at the time had hearts of stones, even through the miracles people came against him. Also just to state the unseen obvious the bible does say Jesus is God.

Though I must say, if anyone does have a question toward the belief of Christianity (only under what the bible strictly says) then message me; post it up. I do not want to argue, I do not want to condemn, I want to save.
Religion / Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven? by APKevin(m): 12:32am On Mar 05, 2006
Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
The question we need to be asking ourselves is can even a Christian go to heaven?
I say this not because im not a believer of Christ, but that religion is not something that allows you to pass into heaven, but instead locks yourself into chains.

If you where to ask me on the street what do i belong to (as far as religion), i would most likely say "im a Christian", because i believe in the principles of Christianity, but even at that i can be disappointed at the term "Christian". For God did not come to set up a religion, but to make followers and disciples of his Word. The term "Christian" was not even used while Jesus was here on earth. It was a term that was brought out later in the Antioch church. See the thing is a Jewish person can go to heaven, a Jehovah Witness, and Christian alike. As long as you accept Christ into your heart recognize he is God, Lord, and savior, you can be saved. But there is more to it, everyone must maintain that gift of salvation by living for Christ in continual obedience to his word, because there are many people out in the world today who recognize Christ as those and everything that he is yet go to Church in the morning and leave for the strip clubs at night (WARNING: LUKE-WARM alert). Showing that we must continue to strive to be "Christ Like" (this is what the meaning of "Christian means"wink.

Recognize this that God is for everyone! He came to the Gentiles and Jews alike, giving both that same promises. I must say though that if you follow "religion" then you will have a much harder time in life then if you just follow his word out of love. For even Christian's denominations, Catholics, and other religions that derive from the belief of he bible have flaws within them. Only go by God's Word and what it says for that is the only truth. You can only complete God's will if you have the love to do what his word says, other wise you would just be following rules and regulations with a cold heart. Falling constantly because there is no love to drive oneself.

p.s.just continue to be in the Lord and he will be in you
Religion / Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven? by APKevin(m): 12:32am On Mar 05, 2006
Softe to the post that you made, i do have a disagreement.

You cannot be the judge of a scenario (referring to the statement of "disabled and "Muslim" people), all you can judge is that if Christ is in their life and they live for him, then they can be saved. Yes you do need to be born again, but to state the "What if" shows lack of faith. I'm referring to this statement said "what if God doesnt deliver her". How is God not going to deliver her? Is that not what Jesus represents as a savior? For the bible does say in 1 Corinthians 10:13 "God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it." Meaning God will not put you in a situation that you cannot handle, for you are a child of God, and although your parents could be Muslim the authority on this earth is given to you. Why? Because Christ lives in you and he has overcome the earth (that’s biblical). Therefore the enemy does not have the authority over oneself unless that authority is allowed by God, "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." (Ephesians 10:13) Remember the bible says that if your not a child of God your with the evil one. So to say that those who are with the evil one are going to prevent you from receiving deliverance from God's spirit shows that there is little biblical foundation or belief in God's power to overcome.

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