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Islam for Muslims / Re: "Terrorrism Is Part Of Islam" Imam Anjem Choudary by arsenalwenger: 7:17pm On Sep 21, 2014 |
vedaxcool: to conclude on anjem, naturally extremists think alike, hence you would notice extremists christians would naturally be attracted to Anjem they would insist on his extremist views as being valid despite the fact that mainstream muslim have long distanced themselves from his type. But we know pigs would always dance in a pool of stool.Mehdi Hasan wrote: "Is Choudary an Islamic scholar whose views merit attention or consideration? No. Has he studied under leading Islamic scholars? Nope. Does he have any Islamic qualifications or credentials? None whatsoever. So what gives him the right to pontificate on Islam, British Muslims or 'the hellfire'? Or proclaim himself a 'sharia judge'?", You asked all the above questions concerning Anjem because you don'agree with his view. Are you aware that the ISIS leader met all these requirements? Do you also consider him a fake muslim? Haven't you read how the wahabi faction of sunni muslim was established in suadi arabia that follow the same pattern with ISIS? I am very sure you dont understand arabic or Islam than the ISIS leader or the grand mufti of saudi arabia who said and I quote, 'no church must be seen in the arabian peninsula'. You equally dont understand islam more that the imams in sudan, iran, saudi arabia etc who said the penalty for apostasy is death. It is only in islam that the penalty for leaving is death. That a devilish policy bro! Islam supports violence bro, read the sunna of the prophet and stop applyin altaqiyya here, many of us hav come to see the ugly faces of islam via the internet. If a pastor commits a crime, he didnt do that because Jesus did it. If muslims kill and ask the infidels to convert by force or pay jizya, they follow the example of islamic prophet. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: "Terrorrism Is Part Of Islam" Imam Anjem Choudary by arsenalwenger: 5:30pm On Sep 20, 2014 |
vedaxcool: Pastors practicing Christianity according to arsenwenger;Bros you are getting it wrong. Anjem chauodary is a leading Islamic figure in the UK. He has never been arrested for commiting any crime, he only preaches Islam according to the sunnah of the prophet. Those 'pastors' you listed above did what is bad and punishable by law and their actions are not backed-up by the teachings and actions Jesus. On the other hand, Anjem chaodary claim that violence is part and parcel of islam according to the quran (quran 9:29) and the hadith and are backed up by the word and actions of the prophet. Did the prophet engage in the act of war? Yes. Did he capture slave women after his victories? Yes. Did he command muslims to fight infidels until they accept allah as the only true God and mohammed his prophet? Yes. I wonder why you can't say a simple truth. Anjem is saying the truth concerning pure Islam and you are here denying an obvious fact. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Mercy Of The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) With Kids by arsenalwenger: 5:05pm On Sep 20, 2014 |
The same way mohammed had mercy on aisha (a kid of 6) when he (at 51) got married to her. Ya, the prophet is so merciful to kids. 6 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Councillor Aicha Flees Italy In Fear For Her Life After Death Threats by arsenalwenger: 2:14pm On Sep 20, 2014 |
Tho' xtains and the west in general have their flaws, they are far more better than the hypocrite and al-taqiyya arab-muslims whose daily lives are spents on hate, lies, and killing of infidels. No wonder arabs are one of the poorest races on earth despite the large oil revenue (being embezzled by their leaders and grand muftis and ayatollahs). It is shocking that muslims will complain of discrimination while they are the master in the art. Can a xtain hold an office in saudi arabia or iran? 2 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 10:05pm On Sep 19, 2014 |
muhsin: Please see the attached. To me, it explains so much about the identity of the infamous ISIL. They need to as well convert to Islam before asking others to. Most, if not all, of their activities contravene Islamic teachings.Go and read the hadith and the sunna of the prophet concerning how infidels should be treated among the larger muslim population, and make your comparison with the activities of ISIS. I can count many verses of the koran, many hadith and the sunnah of the prophet that encourage aggressions against the infidels and non-muslims. Uthman dan fodio, kanem bornu, the mali songhia, all establish islam in west africa via war and aggression. ISIS and Boko haram became an out-lawed group only because the modern era easily exposes them through social media and international media coverage which were not in existence during the prophet and uthman dan fodio era. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 11:11pm On Sep 18, 2014 |
Empiree: watch it or leave itTruth is always hard for muslims to handle, especially when told about the life of the prophet. From the wars he fought against his perceived infidels, his slave trading and taking, his mass killing of meccan Jews, his many wives, se.x slaves and concubines, his hatred for the xtains and Jews (quran 5:51), etc. Truth is always hard for muslims to handle. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 1:55pm On Sep 18, 2014 |
Empiree:I believe you are learned in your religion. You can make your point without a youtube video. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 5:11am On Sep 18, 2014 |
maclatunji:Marrying first cousin is an ince,st in our african society. It is a criminal offense for a christian or a Jew to own or carry a bible in saudi arabia. Bible is an illegal material in saudi. African culture is traditionally against child marriage while the age difference bw the prophet and aisha is 45 years (according to islamic sources), Any saudi citizen that leaves islam for christianity, or any other religion, will face a death penalty. This only happen in a cult where there is no other option once you join. Islam teaches cultural supremacy and are always at war will other cultures or religions where both of them mix or meet. We never heard christians fighting hindus in India, we never heard christians fighting bhudist in china, we never heard christians bombing mosques in Nigeria. You understand what im saying here. No other religion in the entire world is advertising its religion to be a religion of peace, except Islam. This is an image laundary statement: I AM WHITE FORGET ABOUT MY BLACK SKIN. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 5:57am On Sep 17, 2014 |
Empiree: may God of Abraham deliver us from the shackles of ignorance and deceit from among jinnkind and mankind.May the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacoc deliver us from the shackles of ignorance and deceit from jinnkind and mankind. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: "Terrorrism Is Part Of Islam" Imam Anjem Choudary by arsenalwenger: 4:50pm On Sep 16, 2014 |
vedaxcool:Can you confirm any of rev king's words or actions that can be attributable to the teachings or actions of Jesus? Rev king is a known thief using christianity as a cover. Anjem chaudary words and teachings are very compatible with the live of the prophet. Is it the war doctrine, sharia in the UK doctrine, child bride doctrine, islam take-over of UK doctrine\illusion? Anjem's teachings are all compatible with the sunnah of the prophet. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 6:38am On Sep 16, 2014 |
Recently world powers asked the arab to form a military coalition to defeat ISIS, but the sunni dominated arab and muslim world are reluctant to do that. This is because muslims are not koranically permitted to fight their fellow muslims. The western powers, tryin to fool the muslim world in order to gain their support against ISLAMIC STATE, are singing that 'ISIS are not true islam', 'they do not represent large numbers of peaceful muslims'. However the muslim world do not buy into the western power's hypocrisy hence they refuse to mobilize force against the ISIS. The muslim world will go against the koran if they fight the ISLAMIC STATE. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 5:55am On Sep 16, 2014 |
Empiree:No sane person will accept a religios teaching that sanctions the killing of infidels as a religious duty. No logical person will sanction a religion that sees nothing wrong for a 54 year old man to sleep with a 9 year old girl. No sane african can accept a religion that approve marryin a first cousin, it is incest to African culture and good in islamic and arab culture. I wont accept a religion that teach pupils, from their childhood, to view xtains and Jews as eternal enemies. I wont accept a religion that is widely known to have conqured lands, via war, before establishing mini-caliphates, especially in africa and asia. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: "Terrorrism Is Part Of Islam" Imam Anjem Choudary by arsenalwenger: 9:19pm On Sep 15, 2014 |
vedaxcool: Anjem is speaking his own desires may Allah guide to the right path that is, if it is true.Anjem choudary understands islam better than all NL muslims. He speaks the truth as contained in the koran. Pls do not condemn him for saying the truth. And remember, he is still a devout and a practicing muslim known globally. |
Religion / Re: The Alleged Corruption Of The Bible (Not For Atheists) by arsenalwenger: 2:04pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
truthman2012:allah is a manipulative arabian idol exhorted as a god. Anywhere allah is memtioned, wat you see is killing and destruction of 'infidels'. Ask the ISIS leader or anjem chaudry (a british-pakistani muslims zealout), you will get an honest answer. NL muslims are here to whitewash and launder islamic mess. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: What The Quran-bashers Don’t Want You To Know About The Bible by arsenalwenger: 1:57pm On Sep 14, 2014 |
BossTtdiamonds:Edit: blood suckin' Muham MAD (peace be upon me). |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 6:40am On Sep 12, 2014 |
Empiree: Okay, now you seem to make sense. I hope you will think and respond intelligently. My responses in blueDo you have koranic verses, alhadith and the sunna to back-up your response since the ISIS are backing up their actions with the afore-mentioned islamic materials? Note that their leader has a phd in islamic studies (with the information i have), so he is an xpert in islamic knowledge\teachings\escathology and also a devout muslim. As I said earlier, muslims world over will usually go to the street protesting, burning and killing anytime the prophet is insulted, the koran is desecrated or Islam is spoken against. So if ISIS is not an Islamic group, why cant muslims also violently protest on the street condemning the activities of the ISIS. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 10:41pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
Empiree: You are not that smart. If you are, you would know this is admonition, and perhaps, proverb. Subject of ilm Akhir zaman is sensitive one. Care must be taken while studying it. The thing is many of you christian people only intend to mock. I knew that from day one and that's exactly what you've being doing. So i better just mute.The topic is: Is ISIS\ISIL Islamic? It is expected of you to shed more light on the activities of this Islamic 'calipahte' terrorist and proove that they do not serve the interest of the larger muslims population (especially the sunni muslims in iraq and syria). Your unbiased and objective contribution will be welcome. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 5:13pm On Sep 11, 2014 |
cloudstar:It is the Judeo-christian alliance (quran 5:51) that made the sunnis (ISIS finances by saudi arabia and qatar) slaughter the shia in iraq (finance by iran). |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 5:03am On Sep 11, 2014 |
I have seen violent protest whenever the prophet is insulted. I have seen street protest whenever islam is spoken against. I have seen killings as a result the desecration of the koran. I have heard of blaphemy law to protect the prophet and islam from being spoken against. I have seen street protest against the israeli 'occupation' of palenstine. I am yet to see any violent protest by muslims (as being done anytime islam or the prophet or the koran is insulted) against the killings perpetrated by ISIS on the infidels and shia muslims (considered apostates). I have not heard that fatwa has been issued against the leadership of ISIS for misrepresenting islam. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 6:53am On Sep 10, 2014 |
INJESUSNAME: Islam was never and can never be peaceful; muhammed fought till he died and muslims must continue to fight as Genesis 16:12 predicted. Islam is a spirit, when it enters yu ,yu become a 'wild man' and descedant of ishmael, just like anyone dat accepts Jesus becomes the son of God and descendant of Isaac. Until Jesus comes, 'no peace for d wicked saith d Lord'. Islam is antiChrist, yet has its own fake isa, musa, daud etc. All my confusion about which book tells d truth about Jesus, moses, Abraham etc went away d moment i realised allah (satan) is a lier who always decieves men to bow to him rather than to God. Imagin a sane man bowing to a stone structure! Here yu are defending a man dat married a 9yr old child, raided caravans like highway robber etc.Gen 16:12, He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers." This above prophesy is for the generation of Ishmael, the present-day arabs or muslims, who will be in perpetual conflict with the world wherever they find themselves. This prophesy was pronounced long before islam came to light. Islamic hostility can never stop if the bible on tnis matter is true. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 10:12pm On Sep 09, 2014 |
cloudstar:Lol. This is dangeruosly funny. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 9:21pm On Sep 09, 2014 |
maclatunji:Bros u need to take a course on demographic distribution from a larger population, and note that 5% is the world standard for hypothesis testing to determine whether a test is null or not. The sample of 5% is always used in determining the general characteristic of a population. You can never get an accurate population from any cluster group (like radical muslims among moderate muslims). I based the estimate of 5% as the smallest mininum average radicals we can get from a 100% muslims community (the % might or will be higher). Note that this analysis was based on the fact that most 'moderate' muslims have always write to condemn ISIS as 'non muslims, extremist or radical muslims'. It is not we christians that did the categorization, but the moslem world, in order to tell us that islam is a 'religion of peace' being hijacked or given bad names because of the activities of the radical muslims. So, to solve this extremist problems, there is need to hav a rough estimate of how many muslims have been radicalized in order to make proper provisions for their de-radicalization for them to live a peaceful life. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 6:06pm On Sep 09, 2014 |
maclatunji:If an estimated 5% of 1billion muslims are considered radicals, that amount to 50 million muslim radicals world wide. 50 million dangerous human beings are unnacceptably high, capable of unleashing terror world wide. 2 Likes |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 12:37pm On Sep 09, 2014 |
Mee234: Don't you think if any body or group of persons consistently incorrectly apply acquired knowledge, the source of that knowledge or teacher interpreting that knowledge should be question?.I think I fully agree with you here. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is ISIS/ISIL Islamic? by arsenalwenger: 8:52am On Sep 09, 2014 |
Islamic State is Saudi Arabia at war. Saudi Arabia is Islamic State at peace. Look at sharia laws in Saudi Arabia and tell me I’m wrong, it is in line with IS religio-political ideology which SA is not implementing but IS is doing exactly that. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Sunderland Vs Chelsea - Capital One Cup (2 -1) On 17th December 2013 by arsenalwenger: 5:33am On Dec 18, 2013 |
Pls when is the return leg? I know chelsea might still qualify. *praying that FA should arrange second leg* 1 Like |
Politics / Re: Any Hint Of A Coup Will Disintegrate Nigeria by arsenalwenger: 8:46pm On Dec 17, 2013 |
payless:Please save us this crocodile response, any1 has the right to air his view, being it a moderator or ordinary member. In an organized society, the likes of Obj and IBB will be in jail. In china or north korea, they would have been purged for the society to progress. It is only in African that leaders who have stolen the country blind, destroy the economic insfrastructure, social order and what have you, that will still be regarded as elder statemen. Obasanjo and Ibb have no moral leverage to advise Gej. They are worst demon that should be purged from a sane society. 1 Like |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is Quran Copied From Thebible? by arsenalwenger: 12:59pm On Dec 17, 2013 |
Emusan: This is where you suppose tell yourself the truth by knowing that the God who inspired Moses to write Torah was different from the one who inspired Muhammad.Guy dont mind them, a copy-cat can never get the full details. |
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