All Tinubu's policies na back to back failure. F9 all through

Happy moriage to them o, using my thick Ibadan accent

APC do wreck Nigeria

BBIA:

Omo! this your plenty grammar wey you the wire person wey you talk say na olodo, how e go take understand?

but wetin make you the yap like chihuaha like this? the nigga f0ndle your balls?

You no check the username of your daft friend. E dey pain am say dem no no rate him IQ to share key books with am on Odu Ifa

Why waste my time with a dense person wey no sabi think for himself and dey outsource him thinking to him pastors, worshiping a fellow human (pastor) as god

Before discussing a topic person with a person, such must demonstrate a certain level of intelligence

If not, the person will be giving me unnecessary stress and waste of time

Make him cry from now till tomorrow or spam my mentions all through the week, that won't change a thing. Naso losers dey do

Two m.orons dey quote themselves, Lols. Where the grammar dey?

So many daft people on this forum. Where did I call WS a babalawo? Lols, na human being pikin dull like this

Spamming my mentions like a maniac fellow. Public nuisance

MaxInDHouse:


So the occult has many facets.

The occult is what is called AWO!

Obviously

Were go rant tire. I don't engage mentally sick people

Only a severe mental health disorder can cause this spamming of mentions of complete strangers on a forum

MaxInDHouse:


There is a difference between Ifá and Awo, a Buddhist, Muslim, Churchian, Traditionalist, Doctor, Lawyer, Judaist and many more may be involved in AWO but Ifá is a religion on it's own just as all these religions are on their own.

Ifá means consulting the Oracle while Awo means the occult which any form of religionist can be their member.
There is the Olúawo, Apènà, Erelú, Asípa and the others in AWO this are the initiates while Ifá only deals with the Oracle anyone can go for a consultation the initiates are also novice when it comes to ifá they must pay for consultation just as anyone else.

All these are top secrets that most of you don't know!

Lols, afi top secret na. You must think na children dey for this board or dense people wey dey outsource their thinking to pastors

Babalawo is used strictly for Ifa priests or devotees, i.e., those that specialize in Odu Ifa or worship Ifa

But there are different kinds of awo (occultic groups), one of which is Ifa cult specifically for babalawos (ifa priests or devotees)

you don't even know the history of this subject

To become a babalawo (ifa priest or devotee), a person must do the ceremony called itefa. So they've laid down rules to join their occultic group (Ifa cult).

Odu Ifa came from Orunmila and Ifa, and Orunmila was the first babalawo or grand priest of Ifa in Yorubaland. Babalawo is strictly for the Ifa cult

But there are different kinds of awo in Yorubaland

Babalawos are Ifa devotees or priests

There are Sango cult, Osun cult, Obatala cult, and the likes built around or formed by a specific deity or the other

All these are awo, too, but babalawos belong to Ifa cult specifically

That's why it's good to research things online before going deep into them because once you join all these cults, it's extremely difficult to leave later on, just like the cults (awo) of the foreign religions as well

Why dis m0ron dey spam my mentions? Mentally sick people really plenty for Nairaland because I don't know how an adult doesn’t know how to engage others like a person that has a sound brain

Who cares about what you want to research? Is this one daft or mentally sick?

Tripe. I no dey read nonsense

Buhari Pro Max

Not here to engage an MOG slave, fighting for his gods masquerading as pastors.

Na people wey dey tell you to research and learn things for yourself online be scammers and manipulators because they don't collect a dime from you, no be the ones that tell you to pay tithes or charge you unnecessarily because you're dense

See an adult that hates to be told he needs to think for himself. Don't worry, just outsource your thinking to your pastors

There are many honest people using native knowledge systems for research/work or practicing ATR without scamming and defrauding others like your pastors

MaxInDHouse:


This is what most of you failed to realize because majority calls the building where people gather for worship "Church" doesn't mean that's correct.

Baba ònífá is the Ifá priest not babalawo.

All that's semantics, which I'm not interested in discussing. How will a person be called baba onifa without doing the rites of joining awo, which makes them a babalawo? There are laid down rules for such rites online on blogs and books on the subject about Yoruba culture and traditions

I use the term "Ifa devotees" /"Ifa priests" to refer to babalawos, and that usage has a key significance in this subject.

Ifa devotees or Ifa priests (who I call babalawos) are different from other people, for instance, students or researchers, who know Odu Ifa alittle or a bit more but don't belong to any awo (occult) and don't worship Ifa

Such people may even be a descendant of Ifa or Orunmila directly or indirectly but still they don't worship them

Don't mix things up. Even Ifa priests/devotees don't recognize such people as individuals (members) within their fold because such people are often quite objective about Odu Ifa, which the priests or devotees usually find offensive or disrespectful

Look at the individual talking about Ifa earlier, which I think the mod banned; such people are mere researchers, not in any awo. No Ifa devotees/priests will tell you that Odu Ifa has limits (only people into academia do such)

In fact, the priests hate hearing such, and they don't usually consider researchers of Odu Ifa as belonging to to their fold

Researchers don't know or observe their codes of conduct

There are scientists, doctors, teachers, chemists, even a Nobel laureate, writers, historians, artists, and many other professionals supporting/using African native knowledge systems or practicing ATR and making a good living honestly in Nigeria and overseas

Popular examples are the renowned professors whose pictures are shown below.

Nairaland needs to upgrade itself and stop allowing mischievous people to clamp down on the rights of other members of this forum.

You mentioned random people (strangers) to share their insights on Odu Ifa. When they answered your question honestly and told you to use online resources to learn, you called them scammers and manipulators. Yet, no one asked you for a dime or cares about whether you learn Ifa or not

There's a reason people like me don't recommend books of Ifa to people. It's to prevent situations like this

Once a person supports indigenous knowledge systems, automatically the mischievous adherents of the foreign religions will be looking for all means to set them up

Yet, there are many people supporting indigenous knowledge systems or practicing ATR that live and treat people with honesty and integrity and have good jobs.

epainos:

Read the bolded part again. And you mean you have gone through my posts. Lol. You are not serious at all.

It is obvious that you are either:

1. An inexperienced Ifa scammer, or
2. Ifa maga.

Hahahha! Even guys are asking me behind the scene how I got so much info...so, in your brain, you still think I I don't know things.... You are damn so slow mehn. Babalawo will keep scamming you. You are damn just too slow. Damn. Mehn! People just don't read to understand. Mehn! Chai! Ifa maga.

This fellow needs to be banned for posting wrong information on Nairaland and harrasing other members.

You're advised to do your own research using resources online, but you're calling people scammers, manipulators all about without any single proof.

How did I scam you? You go about calling random people you just met on a forum scammers without having any dealings with them.

Rules 2 and 8 broken. Telling you to do research yourself online on a subject yourself is not called a scam anywhere.

Cc: Seun, Nlfpmod

epainos:

Title recommendations are perfect also. If you can share it here...fine...if you need me to send you a private message....it is fine by me. I have started with Google, but it has its limitations. I don't want to dive into the ocean without any roadmap; therefore, the titles of good materials will be appreciated.

Rule 8 broken. I don't know why Nairaland allows this sort of people to harrass other members anyhow without any justification. He was even trying to contact another member off Nairaland, breaking Nairaland's rules

Nigeria will win

epainos:

All babalawos understand my post, na you no get am, but I will explain here. I teach, and I don't hide info. Information that we will leave behind. No matter the knowledge we have we will leave all behind in this world.

What have you taught here so far that's not available online. Someone advised you start learning Ifa online, but instead you're trying to contact them off Nairaland and coercing them to send you books.

You want to be spoonfed. There's a reason that person recommended you should learn using Google and didn't state going to one babalawo (ifa priest) or the other to prevent falling into the hands of fraudsters, which are in every religion, including ATR.

But no; it's lies and get-rich-quick schemes you're looking for all about. You said they're manipulating you because they told you the simple truth.

What people spend years to learn, he wants to learn that in a day here on Nairaland. Na why dem dey scam this kind of people easily, always looking for shortcuts where there are none

I don't know why people are not being reasonable. Even when you gain admission into a uni to study any course, you're not taught everything at once but in batches or levels.

Also, there are books of Ifa online both free and paid. But you expect to be spoonfed. You want everything to be posted here on Nairaland.

No one will teach you how to do research on things yourself

Someone told you not to worship Ifa, but still, they want to enslave you. Nairaland Church propagandist

The person you mentioned did not advertise or call you to come and learn Ifa, na you know wetin you dey find all about when you no fit stick with your Jesus

MaxInDHouse:

You need to know the real meaning of that word "BABALÁWO" it totally differs from "Ifá priest"

Babaláwo means the head among the initiates most initiates don't even know a single thing about Ifá because that's not their field.
This is the full meaning "Bàbá nínú àwọn aláwo" this people are behind the politics in all the places they are and they are behind all the political parties throughout the world.
There are three categories of initiates:
Those in the race of business.
Those in the race of religions.
Those in the race of politics
You can switch lane but your position in one lane won't be the same in another, you have to join the queue from the back even if you're well known as a frontier in one lane you can't be a frontier on the other lane.
They are all into the same cult and they know themselves so once they initiate anyone he or she joins the race and they're ever ready to protect the interest of their members.
Don't think they're only in one continent they are everywhere!

The way you post lies all about is mind-boggling. All what you said here is only a figment of your imagination. It's totally different from the reality

Anyone following events in Nigeria and overseas knows adherents of ATR, including babalawos (often translated as Ifa priests), are a minority in Nigeria and have held little or no key political positions

Dey post your lies small small, no be kids dey dis forum