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Those who tell people "woe unto you" because of tithe will soon come to their senses. I believe ignorance is at work. What they don't know is that they are just giving 10%, while some give 5, 20%, etc. It is just a normal giving. Tagging it tithe or twentieth does not mean anything. There are those cast out demons in the name of the Lord but they are workers of iniquities just as there are those who hoard and pay tithe while Christ(least of his brothers) suffers. They think they are giving to God. Can one give to God if not through Christ? ![]() Demons will flee, multiple folds you will receive(receiving from giving is natural) but BEWARE.... God declared the giving that pleases Him in Heb 13:16. The poor of the holy ones received gifts. The rich among them are not greedy. I believe the world would have been a better place, if Christians concentrate more on helping the needy(body of Christ) among them instead of over feeding one person who has no need just because he thinks he need to pay Nepa bill and paint church building every week. They watch those who they should feed suffer while they clamour for more gifts to be given to them even when they have abundance. One that has conscience would know that there is no Love in this act. 3 Likes |
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Bidam: Wrong again! Paul in 1 Cor. 9:13-14 referred to the Levitical system under the Law when he taught on giving in the NT. He was not making a case for literal application of farm produce in Israel; but it is understood that he was pointing out a principle in verse 14 where he said "[On the same principle] the Lord directed that those who publish the good news (the Gospel) should live (get their maintenance) by the Gospel" (Amplified). You can compare Leviticus 6:16 with 1 Corinthians 9:13. I see you are talking about the principle of maintenance. How you get what you use for that maintenance is not the principle itself. That is why it say, "you shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain." Obviously, Paul was not talking about TITHE. I hope all those involved in spreading the good news are beneficiaries of the maintenance principle and non of them is being cheated? ![]() |
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Bidam: oGa!!! welcome from your sabatical..Don't use the strawman technique here.You saw i quoted the Pauline epistle when he mentioned On the same principle. Whether strawman or not, whatever is false is false, whatever is true is true. First, you have to understand that the good news must be preached without cost, 1Cor 9:18, 2Cor 11:7. Living by the things of the temple and altar is different from living by means of the good news. Things of altar are clearly stated in the scripture and it includes tithe. What are the things of the good news? Certainly not tithe. It is not written anywhere. These are benefits/blessings(material benefits too) one receive from living by the good news about Christ. Its is all about sharing with the one who blesses you when he is in need. It is not a burden to be place of those who receive the good news, 1these 2:9, 2Cor 11:7-9. Doing good and sharing with those in need is what pleases God, Hebrew 13:16. As far as Christians are concerned, that is the kind of sacrificial giving God required from them because it pleases him. |
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Elliotwiz1: so why did you quote those verses? You dont even have a reason for doing what you do, tithe is giving! But in a special form, what i'm telling you is that giving is biblical! |
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Quoting the mosaic law does not mean one should start practicing what is quoted but a reference(for teaching, corrections, etc) pointing to the law Christ fulfilled. We live by the fulfilled law. No body goes sacrificing animals because it was quoted by Paul. I thought things would have been better by now. Smh!!! 1 Like |
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@iboman, you are wise. Am glad bidam my friend said he received his revelation on paying tithe from the word in the bible just as others would receive their own different revelation base on their understanding or pre-conviction. But if the truth must be told, GIVING brings blessings to both Christians and non-Christians. Tithe is not a command to Christians but Giving is. Those using malachi 3 as bases for paying tithe are putting themselves in the bondage of the law as it is in galatians 3 and 5. Those who threaten their brethren with malachi are doing so in ignorance or with ulterior motive (This where the problem is with the preachers). Christians who gave to the apostles, gave bountifully out of their heart without a mandated fixed percentage when their is need for it. the commandment on giving to Christians was for them to help brothers, sisters and those in need as this is what pleases God(Heb 13:16). There is no where it was commanded that Christians should pay tithe. Receiving from the act of giving is NATURAL(that is the principle many are confessing that works for them and not what Christians are commanded to do). Those rejoicing that they are giving to God through their tithe while neglecting those in need should remember that these people(the least of his brethren) are the Christ the see. Especially those hoarding their tithe while Christ suffers are not being fair to the lord. You will get whatever fold you desire by giving tithe, even those who give bribe with testify of the blessings they have received by their giving it. But let it not be as those who see that casting out demons in the name of the lord actually works but the lord himself will declared them workers of iniquities. @Drummerboy: sorry o! I have always known that serving Christ is actually easy and that is what has been keeping me, because i focus on him alone if not.... 'Sub-masters' are not superior to the Master. 3 Likes |
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Itsfacts: You asked, "can judges who are fraud be gods?" but you did not ask yourself, why would they(fraudsters) be called children of the Most High? ![]() They are not gods to be worshipped the way we worship the only true God. They are gods cos they are children of God and they received power and authority from God who is the source of Godhead, to execute judgement over others. That is how they are gods over the rest. I don't know much about those who are not children of God. The children of God, ie those who are in Christ are gods. We are gods over demons cos we were give powers and authority over them by God through Christ. We have the fullness of Godhead(God's nature/qualities) in us through Christ, Col 2:9-10. We(gods) do not worship any other god apart from the only true God(He recognised non) and no one worship us. I ask again "who is the person called the only True God"? |
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harlos: Yes. Just tell the small pikin(lalabi) to wait outside. Join him there too. Wait o! Who be that person wey wan close this thread without consultationing me? ![]() errm...no body should answer my question. I now know the person. |
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Br3nd4: Thank you. When did "e" become 3 in engrish? ![]() |
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harlos: Who is this new comer? Chei! I don suffer. Children of nowadays. |
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lalaboi: Taaa! This thread i closed many years ago still dey exist because una dey trespass. I go show both of you the way out of this place. ![]() |
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^^ha!! ![]() ^^shuu!! ![]() *looking below* I go shoot person head wey go show down there. ![]() |
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Itsfacts: I just wanted to see where frank debunked me but you didn't show me. See excerpt from his post. The fact still remains that the judges were called gods. Unless you want to delete the word "god"? Even Trinitarians Believe! "Elohim Is Used Of False Gods Elohim is used not only for the true God but also for false gods. Do not make any gods to be alongside me; do not make for yourselves gods of silver or gods of gold (Exodus 20:23). The Term Is Also Used Of Angels The term Elohim is also used of angels. You made humanity little lower than the heavenly beings [Elohim] (Psalm 8:6) There Are Instances Of Elohim Referring To Human Beings On some occasions, Elohim refers to human beings. I said, ‘You are "gods" [Elohim] you are all sons of the Most High' (Psalm 82:6)." SOURCE: http:// www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_ stewart/stewart.cfm?id=1303 I remember i asked you to show me who the only true God is but you guys refused because once you reveal Him you will no longer have any say. |
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Who is afraid of getting banned? I don already ban myself. What is the need posting great articles when there is a possibility that he can hide any post whenever he is angry(i think every two two minutes). Smh!!! |
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^I don't need a seconder or a thirder. Send pm to your friends and tell them where you meet. This thread has been closed. |
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Make i use one leg test this place first before i come in fully. *hmm...this place is stayable.* |
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Those that went to sleep should wake up in another thread. Those laughing to should smile somewhere else. Those wearing glasses should remove it to see other threads. Those that are... Infact Thread closed |
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When your spirit finish talking to you, we will then know what you actually believe in. |
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How? Show me from his post and tell me what you think i have been saying. |
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Good work Frank. |
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Bidam lacks the integrity. That's the feeling i got when the OP invited bidam to come and give us the exposition. I don't want to learn something new and in the end it will be full of lies and unimaginable twisting of words. I stayed this long cos i saw some good people here. But it seems we are waiting to build on a foundation with little or no konkiri. I have lost interest. SMH!!! |
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[quote author=Bidam][/quote] I have always known you to be a twister of the word. See all the beautiful names i wan give my self you come add bitter put. Back to sender. |
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DrummaBoy: OK Bidam, Pls continue the discuss. I honestly thought U were through with that first post. ![]() Abeg no arrest me o. I really want to learn. Its just that i want to see scriptures about the kingdom principle in context to the discuss. @bidam please continue. Some of us don't have that book you recommend so we want to see those principles here. but this one everybody is keeping quiet and oga G.O just dey wait for bidam does it mean there is nothing like kingdom principles? Is it different from following Christ? ![]() 1 Like |
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Well, when interesting people are forced to leave beefers, i will then look for a nicer place which i have not been thinking of because of these nice/interesting people. Wetin i wan learn from maclatunji? ![]() 1 Like |
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E be like i go change my ID to Pastor Boom or Pastor Ark. ![]() ![]() *"The Israelites carried the ark of covenant...." No! no! "Your money and business will boom today..." Exateli!* @Deep Abeg ignore seun and co. We never even do much for this Academy. |
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I will gladly reply that if it is coming from itsfact. You can quote me if i fail to do so. |
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Itsfacts: elohim translates to great, mighty and god. Its better that way. That one is called mighty/great does not mean that one is a judge. You have to first identify "who". We now found out that these things were referring to judges/magistrates and they are also called gods. If they were called mighty, great etc no problem. Why then will have problems when God called them gods? Even when you say gods=judges, then there are people who are INDEED called gods, 1Cor 8:5, cos God also called them gods and Jesus confirmed it. Or don't you like the word he chosed? God committed all judgement to Jesus and he is called a mighty God. I believe he is a mighty judge who will judge all nations. If you are honest, show me the PERSON that is called THE ONLY TRUE GOD, we shall then know that all other gods are either judges or false gods. Simple. THE BOLDED ID VERY IMPORTANT. |
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Poor understanding/visualization still. Deuteronomy 1:17-18 17 Do not show partiality in judging; hear both small and great alike. Do not be afraid of any man, for judgment belongs to God. Bring me any case too hard for you, and I will hear it. by chosing only "...judgements belongs to God," shows half half understanding. To the lawyers in the house, e be like say the supreme judge want to hear this kajad mata wey dey for ground so as e don pass us(lower court judges). Make we refer this mata sharp sharp to Abuja. But this our supreme judge dey powerful o! See as in him dey use one winshes and wizard television(onyokometer) dey watch us as we dey dey collect bribe take dey pass judgement. Na wa o! How i wish anony did not run. But all the same na the same. |
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Goshen360: ![]() I believe he should lay another foundation or add more konkri to the foundation so we can know were we are heading for. Make we dey wait na. |
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@bidam i don't understand this kind of foundation. I wish to stand on a solid one. @shdemidemi abi na tithe principles you wan write before? ![]() |
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