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Religion / Re: Tithes And Offerings by Boomark(m): 10:46am On Oct 07, 2013
Those who tell people "woe unto you" because of tithe will soon come to their senses. I believe ignorance is at work.

What they don't know is that they are just giving 10%, while some give 5, 20%, etc. It is just a normal giving. Tagging it tithe or twentieth does not mean anything.

There are those cast out demons in the name of the Lord but they are workers of iniquities just as there are those who hoard and pay tithe while Christ(least of his brothers) suffers. They think they are giving to God. Can one give to God if not through Christ?

Demons will flee, multiple folds you will receive(receiving from giving is natural) but BEWARE.... God declared the giving that pleases Him in Heb 13:16. The poor of the holy ones received gifts. The rich among them are not greedy.

I believe the world would have been a better place, if Christians concentrate more on helping the needy(body of Christ) among them instead of over feeding one person who has no need just because he thinks he need to pay Nepa bill and paint church building every week.

They watch those who they should feed suffer while they clamour for more gifts to be given to them even when they have abundance. One that has conscience would know that there is no Love in this act.

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Religion / Re: Tithes And Offerings by Boomark(m): 11:53pm On Oct 06, 2013
Bidam: Wrong again! Paul in 1 Cor. 9:13-14 referred to the Levitical system under the Law when he taught on giving in the NT. He was not making a case for literal application of farm produce in Israel; but it is understood that he was pointing out a principle in verse 14 where he said "[On the same principle] the Lord directed that those who publish the good news (the Gospel) should live (get their maintenance) by the Gospel" (Amplified). You can compare Leviticus 6:16 with 1 Corinthians 9:13.

I see you are talking about the principle of maintenance. How you get what you use for that maintenance is not the principle itself. That is why it say, "you shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain." Obviously, Paul was not talking about TITHE.

I hope all those involved in spreading the good news are beneficiaries of the maintenance principle and non of them is being cheated?
Religion / Re: Tithes And Offerings by Boomark(m): 7:20pm On Oct 06, 2013
Bidam: oGa!!! welcome from your sabatical..Don't use the strawman technique here.You saw i quoted the Pauline epistle when he mentioned On the same principle.

My question to your brothers if you care to help cos i wanna learn is that why would Paul quote the mosaic law to support giving to the ministers of the gospel?

Whether strawman or not, whatever is false is false, whatever is true is true.

First, you have to understand that the good news must be preached without cost, 1Cor 9:18, 2Cor 11:7.

Living by the things of the temple and altar is different from living by means of the good news. Things of altar are clearly stated in the scripture and it includes tithe.

What are the things of the good news? Certainly not tithe. It is not written anywhere. These are benefits/blessings(material benefits too) one receive from living by the good news about Christ. Its is all about sharing with the one who blesses you when he is in need. It is not a burden to be place of those who receive the good news, 1these 2:9, 2Cor 11:7-9.

Doing good and sharing with those in need is what pleases God, Hebrew 13:16. As far as Christians are concerned, that is the kind of sacrificial giving God required from them because it pleases him.
Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by Boomark(m): 5:41pm On Oct 06, 2013
Elliotwiz1: so why did you quote those verses? You dont even have a reason for doing what you do, tithe is giving! But in a special form, what i'm telling you is that giving is biblical!
Religion / Re: Tithes And Offerings by Boomark(m): 4:31pm On Oct 06, 2013
Quoting the mosaic law does not mean one should start practicing what is quoted but a reference(for teaching, corrections, etc) pointing to the law Christ fulfilled. We live by the fulfilled law.

No body goes sacrificing animals because it was quoted by Paul. I thought things would have been better by now. Smh!!!

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Religion / Re: Testimonies On Why We Stopped Tithing Here by Boomark(m): 3:36pm On Oct 06, 2013
@iboman, you are wise.

Am glad bidam my friend said he received his revelation on paying tithe from the word in the bible just as others would receive their own different revelation base on their understanding or pre-conviction.

But if the truth must be told, GIVING brings blessings to both Christians and non-Christians. Tithe is not a command to Christians but Giving is. Those using malachi 3 as bases for paying tithe are putting themselves in the bondage of the law as it is in galatians 3 and 5. Those who threaten their brethren with malachi are doing so in ignorance or with ulterior motive (This where the problem is with the preachers).

Christians who gave to the apostles, gave bountifully out of their heart without a mandated fixed percentage when their is need for it. the commandment on giving to Christians was for them to help brothers, sisters and those in need as this is what pleases God(Heb 13:16). There is no where it was commanded that Christians should pay tithe.

Receiving from the act of giving is NATURAL(that is the principle many are confessing that works for them and not what Christians are commanded to do). Those rejoicing that they are giving to God through their tithe while neglecting those in need should remember that these people(the least of his brethren) are the Christ the see. Especially those hoarding their tithe while Christ suffers are not being fair to the lord.

You will get whatever fold you desire by giving tithe, even those who give bribe with testify of the blessings they have received by their giving it. But let it not be as those who see that casting out demons in the name of the lord actually works but the lord himself will declared them workers of iniquities.

@Drummerboy: sorry o! I have always known that serving Christ is actually easy and that is what has been keeping me, because i focus on him alone if not.... 'Sub-masters' are not superior to the Master.

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Forum Games / Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Boomark(m): 6:51pm On Aug 11, 2013
Erm...
Religion / Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Boomark(m): 7:57am On Aug 11, 2013
Itsfacts:

so let me get it straight, you are saying we human beings are god? like benalvino asked what are we god over then?
you can build a boat and call it a car, despite using the word car to describe the boat the truth still stands that board is not a car.

going up there is a lot of questions you refuse to address or admit to for the betterment of this discussion. Jesus told a man, a ruler "you are not a elohim you are just adam" if elohim is used to describe words like great or mighty why should we take judges or magistrate to be God in real sense God?

can judges who are fraud be gods and people who are not fraud not be god? i mean peter, Paul, Thomas, Abraham?
when YAHWEH say there are no other God or gods he said there are no other elohim.

I see you are shocked to find out the bible teaches that Baal is not a god because from what is being posted by you people which states "We Yahweh says there are no other gods he means the idols" and then you still say the idols are God even when Yahweh says they are just wood.

You asked, "can judges who are fraud be gods?" but you did not ask yourself, why would they(fraudsters) be called children of the Most High? Use a holistic approach. Baal is a false god, a so called god. But i did not accept the making of those who are indeed gods, "false."

They are not gods to be worshipped the way we worship the only true God. They are gods cos they are children of God and they received power and authority from God who is the source of Godhead, to execute judgement over others. That is how they are gods over the rest. I don't know much about those who are not children of God.

The children of God, ie those who are in Christ are gods. We are gods over demons cos we were give powers and authority over them by God through Christ. We have the fullness of Godhead(God's nature/qualities) in us through Christ, Col 2:9-10. We(gods) do not worship any other god apart from the only true God(He recognised non) and no one worship us.

I ask again "who is the person called the only True God"?
Forum Games / Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Boomark(m): 7:05am On Aug 11, 2013
harlos:

Oga o.
See this small pikin...

Yes. Just tell the small pikin(lalabi) to wait outside. Join him there too.

Wait o! Who be that person wey wan close this thread without consultationing me? angry

errm...no body should answer my question. I now know the person.
Forum Games / Re: Girls Night In; No Boys Allowed (Peeping is allowed sha) by Boomark(m): 6:38am On Aug 11, 2013
Br3nd4:

Oga welucum. E be like sey K loss for your name grin

Thank you. When did "e" become 3 in engrish? tongue
Forum Games / Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Boomark(m): 9:27pm On Aug 10, 2013
harlos: Who is this new comer?

Show respect next time, wr are ur elders undecided

Chei! I don suffer. Children of nowadays.
Forum Games / Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Boomark(m): 9:22pm On Aug 10, 2013
lalaboi:

Wetin dey worry you. . you just dey d megedefegede for here since u make first post. . I go tell harlos to show you the way nw angry

Taaa! This thread i closed many years ago still dey exist because una dey trespass. I go show both of you the way out of this place. angry
Forum Games / Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Boomark(m): 9:15pm On Aug 10, 2013
^^ha!! angry
^^shuu!! angry

*looking below* I go shoot person head wey go show down there. angry
Religion / Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Boomark(m): 8:58pm On Aug 10, 2013
Itsfacts:

Your friend jman acknowledge Exodus 7:1 as god or like god... man was not called god but was acting as god just like benalvino explained. man is adam and the bible use adam to translate humans, mankind, man etc. psalm 82:6 the gods are judges like you have been shown in another verse elohim is translated judges. now elohim is also used to translate supernatural beings like the angels or it is used to translate godlike too. in Psalm 8:5 it is translated gods, as you can see it can be used to translate many things even mighty etc. haven said this. the bible teaches in the sense of God like God there is no other, only one.

it went on saying men are not gods only in context you can understand what is going on. frank and benalvino have given you the gist that elohim can be magistrates, judges, and rulers.


I just wanted to see where frank debunked me but you didn't show me. See excerpt from his post. The fact still remains that the judges were called gods. Unless you want to delete the word "god"?

Even Trinitarians Believe!
"Elohim Is Used Of False Gods
Elohim is used not only for the true
God but also for false gods.
Do not make any gods to be
alongside me; do not make for
yourselves gods of silver or gods of
gold (Exodus 20:23).

The Term Is Also Used Of Angels
The term Elohim is also used of
angels.
You made humanity little lower
than the heavenly beings [Elohim]
(Psalm 8:6)

There Are Instances Of Elohim
Referring To Human Beings
On some occasions, Elohim refers to
human beings.

I said, ‘You are "gods" [Elohim] you
are all sons of the Most
High' (Psalm 82:6)."
SOURCE: http://
www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_
stewart/stewart.cfm?id=1303

I remember i asked you to show me who the only true God is but you guys refused because once you reveal Him you will no longer have any say.
Religion / Re: Seun Caves In Again To Terrorists by Boomark(m): 8:29pm On Aug 10, 2013
Who is afraid of getting banned? I don already ban myself. What is the need posting great articles when there is a possibility that he can hide any post whenever he is angry(i think every two two minutes).

Smh!!!
Forum Games / Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Boomark(m): 8:07pm On Aug 10, 2013
^I don't need a seconder or a thirder. Send pm to your friends and tell them where you meet. This thread has been closed.
Forum Games / Re: Girls Night In; No Boys Allowed (Peeping is allowed sha) by Boomark(m): 8:02pm On Aug 10, 2013
Make i use one leg test this place first before i come in fully.

*hmm...this place is stayable.*
Forum Games / Re: ~<<The Last Person To Post In This Thread Wins>>~ by Boomark(m): 7:57pm On Aug 10, 2013
Those that went to sleep should wake up in another thread. Those laughing to should smile somewhere else. Those wearing glasses should remove it to see other threads. Those that are... Infact

Thread closed
Religion / Re: Jesus Is More Than God, He Is Jehovah by Boomark(m): 6:09pm On Aug 10, 2013
When your spirit finish talking to you, we will then know what you actually believe in.
Religion / Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Boomark(m): 5:58pm On Aug 10, 2013
How? Show me from his post and tell me what you think i have been saying.
Religion / Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Boomark(m): 5:22pm On Aug 10, 2013
Good work Frank.
Religion / Re: Exposition Of Kingdom Principles by Boomark(m): 4:49pm On Aug 10, 2013
Bidam lacks the integrity. That's the feeling i got when the OP invited bidam to come and give us the exposition. I don't want to learn something new and in the end it will be full of lies and unimaginable twisting of words.

I stayed this long cos i saw some good people here. But it seems we are waiting to build on a foundation with little or no konkiri. I have lost interest.

SMH!!!
Religion / Re: Anony & Deep Sight: Verse By Verse Academy On The Trinity & The Deity Of Christ by Boomark(m): 4:20pm On Aug 10, 2013
[quote author=Bidam][/quote]

I have always known you to be a twister of the word. See all the beautiful names i wan give my self you come add bitter put. Back to sender.
Religion / Re: Exposition Of Kingdom Principles by Boomark(m): 9:32pm On Aug 09, 2013
DrummaBoy: OK Bidam, Pls continue the discuss. I honestly thought U were through with that first post.

And as for the being through with U on this forum, I reconsider: Forgive me for being a pain... OK... I believe I am forgiven?

And as for U Boomark wey want pursue Bidam; if I catch U... person dey lay doctrinal foundation U say make im add KONKIRI...

E no good O... LOL!!!

grin
Abeg no arrest me o.
I really want to learn. Its just that i want to see scriptures about the kingdom principle in context to the discuss.

@bidam
please continue. Some of us don't have that book you recommend so we want to see those principles here.

but this one everybody is keeping quiet and oga G.O just dey wait for bidam does it mean there is nothing like kingdom principles? Is it different from following Christ?

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Nairaland / General / Re: Has Manmustwac Been Sacked? by Boomark(m): 8:44pm On Aug 09, 2013
Well, when interesting people are forced to leave beefers, i will then look for a nicer place which i have not been thinking of because of these nice/interesting people.

Wetin i wan learn from maclatunji? angry

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Religion / Re: Anony & Deep Sight: Verse By Verse Academy On The Trinity & The Deity Of Christ by Boomark(m): 7:48pm On Aug 09, 2013
E be like i go change my ID to Pastor Boom or Pastor Ark. Which one is sweeter and titheful?

*"The Israelites carried the ark of covenant...." No! no! "Your money and business will boom today..." Exateli!*

@Deep
Abeg ignore seun and co. We never even do much for this Academy.
Religion / Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Boomark(m): 4:11pm On Aug 09, 2013
I will gladly reply that if it is coming from itsfact. You can quote me if i fail to do so.
Religion / Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Boomark(m): 3:02pm On Aug 09, 2013
Itsfacts:

brother boomark your verse did not address the question. they told you elohim translate to great, mighty you have never touched that. frank shows you that psalmist is talking about judges also.

could you address those post?

elohim translates to great, mighty and god. Its better that way.
That one is called mighty/great does not mean that one is a judge. You have to first identify "who".

We now found out that these things were referring to judges/magistrates and they are also called gods. If they were called mighty, great etc no problem. Why then will have problems when God called them gods? Even when you say gods=judges, then there are people who are INDEED called gods, 1Cor 8:5, cos God also called them gods and Jesus confirmed it. Or don't you like the word he chosed?

God committed all judgement to Jesus and he is called a mighty God. I believe he is a mighty judge who will judge all nations.

If you are honest, show me the PERSON that is called THE ONLY TRUE GOD, we shall then know that all other gods are either judges or false gods. Simple. THE BOLDED ID VERY IMPORTANT.
Religion / Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by Boomark(m): 12:02pm On Aug 09, 2013
Poor understanding/visualization still.

Deuteronomy 1:17-18
17 Do not show partiality in
judging; hear both small and
great
alike. Do not be afraid of any
man,
for judgment belongs to God.
Bring
me any case too hard for you,
and I
will hear it.


by chosing only "...judgements belongs to God," shows half half understanding.

To the lawyers in the house, e be like say the supreme judge want to hear this kajad mata wey dey for ground so as e don pass us(lower court judges). Make we refer this mata sharp sharp to Abuja. But this our supreme judge dey powerful o! See as in him dey use one winshes and wizard television(onyokometer) dey watch us as we dey dey collect bribe take dey pass judgement. Na wa o!

How i wish anony did not run. But all the same na the same.
Religion / Re: Exposition Of Kingdom Principles by Boomark(m): 8:13pm On Aug 08, 2013
Goshen360:

Bros ehh, I don laf tire o. LWKMD!!! As in eh, you no wan sink based on Bidam's principles. LWKMD!!! Bidam, you see wetin your foundation don cause for guys?

grin
I believe he should lay another foundation or add more konkri to the foundation so we can know were we are heading for. Make we dey wait na.
Religion / Re: Exposition Of Kingdom Principles by Boomark(m): 7:05pm On Aug 08, 2013
@bidam
i don't understand this kind of foundation. I wish to stand on a solid one.

@shdemidemi
abi na tithe principles you wan write before? May be he should talk about tithe principles.

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