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Politics / Re: There Were Plans to annul the 2023 Presidential Election - Soyinka by Creeper: 11:55pm On Jan 17
ejimatic:

With due respect to Prof Wole Soyinka,no plan to annul the election.The North wanted BAT and he won. If the SE man won it would be annulled. That is even remote! The North for reason they know best would not hand over power to the SE.
If any SE man becomes the president without the consent of the North, the region would ensure the government would not last . The election that brings the person in will be annulled.

My SE people should not be angry oo.I am just saying the reality!

Lol, stop lying to yourself. The real powerbrokers in the North and a lot of their buddies in the south didn’t want Tinubu. Tinubu and his allies (both in the North and South) just outsmarted them.

I’m not even a fan of Tinubu (I hate Obi and Atiku - both are utter useless) but it was plain to see for anyone who understands rudimentary politics.

Prof. Wole Soyinka isn’t just an erudite academic - he’s a revolutionary/activist and he understands things better than a lot of you vacuous and puerile youths, that populate the internet with sadistic/ignorant noise, hence he had to wade into the conversation when he did. And it was timely and well-executed because he was basically telling them he can see the cards that they’re playing.

Let me drop 2 excerpts from the essay he addressed to Obidients/Obi/Datti last year titled: Fascism on Course


Sadly, these virtue vigilantes succeed with the ignorant and susceptible – especially among the younger, confused generation. The consequence is that the nation is plagued by fake CVs compiled by all kinds of amateur commentators, still wet behind the ears, who have too few truths to build on before they are corralled into positions of No-Retreat. Nowhere has this been more evident than in the effrontery of attempts to place the present contention on the same podium as the twenty-year old anti-Abacha struggle! This gross abuse of historic licence actually provides smug satisfaction for rookie activists. I advise them to seek out the school of survivors where pertinent lessons still exist for those with sufficient humility to LEARN before MOUTHING! Otherwise their world of false mythologies will collapse under their feet, and leave them dangling in the void.

Before I take myself off for – well, next port of call – the final word goes to a favourite maverick, propagated even as he matched his words by action. I suspect that in this instance we find ourselves on opposite sides of the strategic fence – that is democracy. This now coopted watchword of his formulation remains apt, applicable to all who strive for authentic social transformation: Your mumu don do!

^The ‘favourite maverick’ he was alluding to in the 3rd excerpt is Tinubu. I was going to let the cat out of the bag when it dropped last year but thought it was unnecessary.

Those who fought for democracy in Nigeria are in-charge now after dethroning the old guard and the functioning retard cum demagogue amongst the lazy, uneducated and drug-addled youths.
Politics / Re: Ownership Of Lagos; Balogun Of Eko Abisoye Oshodi Responds To Oba Of Benin by Creeper: 1:46pm On Nov 28, 2023
Iamgrey5:
Oba of Benin is wrong

How can you be the founder of a community that already exist?

Isale Eko was the land of Eko Aromire even before Asipa left Benin.

Ashipa wasn’t a Benin man - he was an Awori man from Isheri. He only went to Benin to seek alliance in order to create a dynasty in Eko, which was already a settlement for trading by various groups. But the land itself was owned by Olofin (an Awori man).

Ashipa only married a Benin woman and they had a son called, “Ado”, who later became the first Eleko of Eko.

And you’re right - Benin never founded Eko nor own anything there. Also, during the initial incursions of the Benins in Eko where they tried to seize the land militarily - they were soundly defeated multiple times.

There’s an Adeniji-Adele Prince I follow on Twitter that has been disgracing his forebears by asserting that Eko was a Benin colony albeit he denied Benin founded Eko tho. Something needs to be done about Yoruba people and the fact that most of us don’t know our history, especially those from royal bloodlines who might end up as kings hence we keep having these useless owanbe kings that go around desecrating the thrones of our ancestors.

Anyway, Oba of Benin is a Yoruba man from the Oranmiyan bloodline and he needs to act right and do better. Going to Lagos to make such an unguarded statement is a declaration of war. Too bad the new generation of Yorubas are weak and docile hence every dog stay desecrating our lands brazenly.

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Politics / Re: Ownership Of Lagos; Balogun Of Eko Abisoye Oshodi Responds To Oba Of Benin by Creeper: 1:31pm On Nov 28, 2023
Iamgrey5:
Who is the person that captured him as slave ?

Abi don't you know the distance between Nupe territory and Lagos?

Which history traced him to be a slave?

You’re right - Oshodi Tapa wasn’t a slave. He was a warrior/prince that settled in Eko and he did fight wars on behalf of Eko, especially against the Brits. I believe he was part of the Oba Kosoko the Eleko of Eko (now Oba of Lagos) entourage that were exiled from Eko to Epe.

Also, Yoruba, Nupe and Bariba (especially Oyo) were intertwined for a long time. Alaafin’s Shango’s mum was Nupe while all the Bashoruns in Oyo empire were Bariba. Oyo also learnt the use of cavalry - which ended up being its biggest tool in achieving empire status - from the Baribas.

Anyway, at that point in history, there were slaves in Lagos from other ethnic groups but the bulk of them were Hausas. Oshodi Tapa was not a slave.

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Politics / Re: Omokri: I’ll Give You $100,000 If You Can Show Where CSU Registrar Denied Tinubu by Creeper: 2:46pm On Oct 04, 2023
This is unnecessary and anyone with basic education who has read the deposition should know better. The registrar of CSU affirmed that the man, Tinubu, attended the said university and graduated with honors. He also clarified the twisted talking point currently being used by propagandists as “forgery”- when he clearly stated the CSU doesn’t certify diplomas since the American system doesn’t place much emphasis on diplomas albeit more emphasis is placed on transcripts. So, the certification of diplomas is a Nigerian thing (in context). And that, it’s mostly done by 3rd party vendors.

Tinubu isn’t a saint by any means but this is basically an exercise in futility and failure on the part of his media team and supporters who have done a terrible job since electioneering began to date. As someone who has studied how propaganda works and how propagandists embellish lies and make them believable since most people are impressionable – you have to be more proactive against a well-oiled propaganda machine. But they have been an utter failure thus far and it’s painful to watch. Shockingly, the unsung hero, in the current duel is CSU. For a small/underfunded school to waste unavailable resources and stick its neck/reputation out for an alumnus the way they have done thus far – despite the calumny, threats and bad press – CSU deserves all the credit in the world.

Also, why aren’t Tinubu’s people going after Atiku and Obi? Based on the basic OSINT I have seen – both are actually worse than Tinubu. Obi is basically everything they claim Tinubu is, from forgery, to drug trafficking, to subversion of government funds for personal use, etc., - apart from being an unintelligent illiterate. And Atiku’s file is longer than the Nile River, from being uneducated, to corruption, to being a fugitive in the US, etc. Attack is the best form of defence and you can’t stay on the defensive forever. Something has to change.

Anyway, I have zero empathy for Tinubu since he fostered the destructive liberalism on Yorubas in the last 2 decades, as the most powerful Yoruba man. The chickens are coming home to roost and they’re sacrificing him on an altar like they have done with other Yoruba leaders (except the fake Yoruba man a la OBJ) since Nigeria was created. You have to learn from history because it has a way of repeating itself and what’s happening in Nigeria now happened in the past. Same script, different players. And sadly, they’re not attacking him because he’s Tinubu – they’re attacking him because he’s a Yoruba man.

Hopefully, he’ll survive this because they’re not stopping any time soon. And if he does, it’s time for conservatism and correcting all the mistakes of the past two decades across Yorubaland. He has all the tools to become the “Moses” Yoruba people have been waiting for and time is of the essence.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Breaking: Mali, Burkina Faso And Niger Form Allied Force Against Ecowas by Creeper: 12:01am On Aug 01, 2023
JagabanB:

You have valid points, South Africa is a western puppet yet it's more developed than these countries, same as Algeria who is a puppet to France.
The major problem lies with us.
We can send them out all we want (which is necessary) but it doesn't solve even half the problem.
How much do we really want to develop ourselves.
Africàñs especially Nîgeriàns go through schools and teachers (who speak out against slavery) makes it look like a crîmè if the student doñ't know the capital of UK, capital of france, Germany etc.
Yet the citizens of those countries can't even name a single city in the whole of Africa.
The problem is more from within than without.
Tinubu is trying to show that Nigèria is a powerful country, which I don't support, but to think that sending the West out will solve our problem is delusions of the highest degree.
About 23 states in Nigeria has good deposit of silica sand, how many glass industries do we have, we still import most of our glasses, our lands are good for agriculture yet Nigèria keep finding itself in food crîsès every now and then.
The west are not involved in these two, yet we can't make good use of them.
I'm sure if the west didn't come for our oil, we wouldn't have done anything with it just like so many minerals being wasted in our country.
Lithium is here in Nigeria but we haven't done anything with yet.
Tesla is requesting to come and take raw lithium away and Nigèria is insisting that they use it here within the country, aside that, we haven't done anything with it.
We have more problem within than without.

South Africa today isn’t a western puppet and the history of South Africa is different from the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa. South Africa was developed because white people never thought they would lose out in the power play in the country (basically what Israel is doing to Palestine) and most of Southern Africa and the country was meant to be the Australia and New Zealand of Africa. However, the war in Angola and the fall out from that war broke the back of apartheid all over Southern Africa (read about the Angolan civil war and how it changed the history of Southern Africa). Cubans with the backing of the Soviet Union played a major role in how most of Southern Africa became black countries hence they still wave Cuban flags in that region.

The same thing is playing out in the Sahel right now albeit with different actors and it’s bigger than Nigeria. Hence Nigeria needs to stay out of it.

Algeria isn’t a puppet of France and the country has the most vile anti-French sentiment on the planet. Macron went there last year to improve relations between the two countries and he was pelted with water. Algeria is mostly a Russian ally albeit it has cordial relations with the US. Algeria is also one of the biggest buyers of Russian weapons and it gets some Russian weapons even before the Russian army (that’s how deep the relationship is).

I don’t think you read that much if you think Africans lack the brain power to use the resources on the continent to their advantage. Ile Ife made glass beads in isolation in the rain forest at a time when no empire or kingdom in the world was doing it, at an industrial scale and turned it into currency. The British Industrial Revolution had its genesis in white slave masters learning iron smelting from African slaves. (Read it here: https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2023/jul/05/industrial-revolution-iron-method-taken-from-jamaica-briton). African slaves from Sahel taught Europeans rice farming, etc. What makes you think a race of people who exhibited this ingenuity in the past can’t do the same thing today?

Africa’s biggest problem is neo-colonialism. Even China didn’t rise under it was cut away from the west and was under sanctions and embargo. And that was when it had to look inwards. And when the west came back to use the country for cheap labour - it cheated the system and used it to its advantage. Or was the exploited Opium Wars China able to build anything?

Like I said in my previous post: it’s not as simplistic as a lot of you think it’s. Africa will rise in a world where there’s a level playing field and no neo-colonialism. That’s the truth and it’s evident in how a lot of west Africans in diaspora outperform their white counterparts in all walks of life.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Breaking: Mali, Burkina Faso And Niger Form Allied Force Against Ecowas by Creeper: 11:10pm On Jul 31, 2023
JagabanB:

Presently, Nigèria as a country has a very large expanse of arable land they can use for agriculture, yet they are not using, Nigeria has a very large deposit of silica sand for glass production on a large scale, yet they are not using it, Nigèria has a huge deposit of lithium, yet they are not using it and so many many other deposits they are not using.
What does it tell u?
We only value our resources and know their importance only when westerners come to mine them.
If Europeans had come here to be using our land for agriculture, we will blame them for our underdeveloped agriculture, same as if they came for silica sand, we will blame for not having functional and great glass industries.
If France leaves Niger Uranium today, in another 50 years they still wón't supply electricity to even 40% of their population.
I don't expect u to understand because mentally lazy folks always look for where to place bIame and absorb themselves of their faiIures.
Just like Africàñs are readily doing.

It’s not as simplistic as a lot of you think it’s. The western world’s survival when it comes to global domination is dependent on the exploitation of African countries and cheap resources from Africa hence Africa is utter poor and underdeveloped.

Africa’s biggest problem is neither corruption (the west is more corrupt than the most corrupt countries in Africa) nor inability to use its vast resources (African ancestors built great civilisations with these resources in isolation, so the ingenuity is there) to its advantage - it’s neocolonialism.

Francophone countries still pay colonial tax in 2023 and they don’t even have independent currencies. They’re all basically still France’s satellite colonies. So, something has to give and since these men have decided to change their reality - they’re brave men and the spirit of Thomas Sankara will guide them.

The coups are mostly geopolitical - Nigeria has nothing to worry about. It’s not going to get to Nigeria - so Tinubu needs to stay out of it and tell Lagbaja to watch his boys.

Paul Biya has ruled Cameroon (Nigeria’s neighbour in the BH axis) for 40yrs and Quattara has ruled Ivory Coast for almost a decade or more. Those are the dictators that Nigeria should be looking for a way to oust from power. But it won’t because those 2 clowns are French puppets.

Western countries need to either do the right thing by paying the market price for these resources or get the Bleep out of the continent.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Breaking: Mali, Burkina Faso And Niger Form Allied Force Against Ecowas by Creeper: 10:35pm On Jul 31, 2023
Guinea has also released a statement backing them (the sea access they need):

Since July 26, 2023, the people of Guinea, headed by the National Committee of the Rally for Development (CNRD), has been following with great interest the evolution of the socio-political situation in the sister Republic of Niger, which has led to the assumption of responsibility by the National Council for the Safeguarding of the Fatherland (CNSP).

The Guinean authorities pay tribute to the brave populations of Niger for their high sense of patriotism and salute the republican spirit and maturity of the Defence and Security Forces who favoured the best interests of their nation by choosing to come together to find solutions to Niger's problems.

The CNRD remains convinced that the new authorities will make every effort to

Guarantee stability and harmony in Niger and the Sub-Region.

The sanctions measures advocated by ECOWAS, including military intervention, are an option that cannot be a solution to the current problem but would lead to a human disaster whose consequences could go beyond the borders of Niger.

As a result, the CNRD refrains from applying these illegitimate and inhumane sanctions against the brotherly people and the Nigerien Authorities, and urges ECOWAS to return to better feelings.

The Republic of Guinea reaffirms with this communiqué its pan-Africanist vision by bringing its solidarity to the Nigerien population and inviting the new CNSP authorities to preserve unity and national cohesion.

The CNRD emphasises that a military intervention against Niger would de facto lead to the dislocation of ECOWAS. Similarly, the brother peoples of Mali, Burkina Faso, Niger and Guinea aspire to more recognition and respect for their sovereignty.

In addition, the CNRD wishes to clarify that the sanctions taken and the threats made at the summit of July 30, 2023 do not in any way commit the

Republic of Guinea.

At a time when the young populations of the ECOWAS area are experiencing a human tragedy in Tunisia and the Mediterranean, the concern of the leaders of the sub-region should be more oriented towards strategic, socio-economic issues for the achievement of their aspirations than to look at the fate of the fallen Presidents.

Conakry, July 31, 2023

For the Nalonal Committee of the Ray erikargu for the DerelopeS (CNRD)

The General Staff Ghof.
General of BridigetHabril SORS BANGOURA

So, the blockade is dead. Algeria is also supporting them.

Brave men vs legion of western puppets.

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Politics / Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by Creeper: 8:33pm On Jul 31, 2023
ivolt:

A country's army strength is not determined by its size but population and finance.
If you are smart, you would realize that there is a difference between rebel or terrorist groups
doing hit and run and national army.
Niger will be defeated within days and the illiterate generals will flee.
When the capital fall and it will fall so fast, that will be the end.

Lol, sit this one out - you obviously know zilch about military.

The strength of Niger’s army isn’t what’s being discussed here - it’s the vested interest, the support the coup plotters enjoy amongst Niger citizens, and the landmass (it’s very important when invading a country).

To invade a country of Niger’s size and hostile population of 27million and successfully hold it - you’ll need at least 200k ground forces. Where will Nigeria get these forces from?

Hypothetically, let’s say Nigeria captures the capital (which is impossible if Wagner forces can get there before Nigeria) - then what? Create a banana country where the president only controls the capital while other people control different parts of the country? And how is that going to work out for Nigeria when another Jihadist group set up shop along Nigeria and Niger borders?

These guys aren’t illiterates - they were trained by US Special Forces before they were hijacked to serve Russian interests via Wagner. It’s the same story from Mali, to Burkina Faso and Guinea.

Also, there isn’t that much difference between most African rebels and insurgents tbh. They both don’t fight via conventional means and I’d wager that insurgents in Africa are easier to dislodge than rebels and Algeria showed that with how it decimated AQIM. Nigeria army just doesn’t have what it takes and it has a lot to do with corruption.
Politics / Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by Creeper: 8:15pm On Jul 31, 2023
BigBashiru:


Tinubu is a western puppet obviously....doesn't he go to FRANCE of all places for medical treatment.....

Perhaps it’s because they’re fighting him at the tribunal via Obidients. However, he needs to understand that they don’t give a Bleep about him - if they did, they won’t have elevated an illiterate like Obi whilst using the mindless zombie mob they created through their sham “End SARS” colour revolution. All the indirect threats against the Nigerian judiciary also show that they don’t give a Bleep about him.

He’s also probably scared of coup happening in Nigeria. But the probability is low due to how officers get moved around in Nigeria and definitely not under the Yoruba man in-charge of the Nigerian army. He’s a fine soldier with special forces background. So, he’s got a capable hand unless the man decides to go rogue, lol.

He needs to act right and thread carefully - one misstep and Nigeria might explode as part of the collateral damage since the country itself is sitting on a powder keg.

BigBashiru:


Niger borders Algeria. French presence in Niger is not in Algerias best interests. Algeria defeated France in war of independence and Algeria has the highest military arsenal in Africa probably because of what they went thru in the hands of France.

Burkina Faso and Mali just released a joint statement backing the coupists in Russia. And with amount of Russian weapons Algeria has - the weapons are going to flow into Niger (with Russia replenishing the Algerian stock at a later date).
Politics / Re: US Throws Weight Behind ECOWAS And President Tinubu On Niger by Creeper: 4:22pm On Jul 31, 2023
It’s really interesting to see all these ignorant Nigerians on Twitter and on here talking about how Nigerian army will defeat Niger within hours. I don’t even think these people studied geography in school because if they did - they won’t make such a ludicrous statement.

Niger is bigger than Nigeria. And Nigeria, a country struggling to contain ragtag Islamists, bandits and separatists shouldn’t be interfering in other countries. Heck, Nigeria struggled in a very small country like Sierra Leone and it took the intervention of British forces (they had to intervene 3 times) to bring normalcy to that country.

Niger coupists have the support of the Wagner forces in Mali, Burkina Faso and Guinea. And Algeria has also joined the fray with support for the coupists. Nigeria needs to stay out of it.

Tinubu, don’t be a western puppet - buy time and use diplomacy. Nigerian army would absolutely get wrecked and disgraced in Niger. Even the French would get wrecked if Algeria is fully committed to supporting the coupists. Stay out of it!

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Politics / Re: Niger Coup Plotters Warn Tinubu & ECOWAS Leaders Against Sending Army To Niger by Creeper: 10:11pm On Jul 30, 2023
Tinubu, this isn’t your fight - stay out of it!

Being a willing tool for western interests would be disastrous.

Niger - Mali/Burkina Faso - Guinea = blockade proof and access to the sea. And Algeria is also Pro-Russia in the Northern part of Niger.

Stay out of it!

Politics / Re: Niger Coup Plotters Warn Tinubu & ECOWAS Leaders Against Sending Army To Niger by Creeper: 9:00pm On Jul 30, 2023
Since it’s now obvious that the coup plotters are backed by Russia - Nigeria needs to stay out of it and not become a western pawn on the chessboard.

The West created all the mess in the Sahel by destroying Libya and subsequently using their Islamists to destabilise the region. They need to clean their mess up by themselves by reining in their Islamists and by putting an end to their imperialism and the exploitation of the whole region.

Niger shares borders with Mali and Burkina Faso (two Wagner countries) - so all the noise about blockade is pretty much hot air. And I don’t think Nigeria has the military to confront Wagner trained forces while fighting Boko Haram and IPOB - unless they want them to embarrass the Nigerian army on the battlefield.

All the western dictated posturing by Tinubu needs to stop - time for diplomacy and putting Africa first. The Sahel belt is very important in the future of the region. Tinubu sounds like a western puppet while Atiku and Obi are CIA shills, lol

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Politics / Why Nigeria Will Never Work by Creeper: 4:39pm On Jul 24, 2023
We often parse out our issues in Nigeria as purely economic; thus, we believe the panacea is just good leadership and viable economic solutions. But I posit that the palpable yet ignored incongruity (in terms of their political philosophies and sociocultural values) between the dominant groups threatens the prosperity of the country more than the economic issues & it’s likely going to be the catalyst for eventual disintegration.

I don’t see how a country can unite and advance with the disparate political philosophies, objectives, and value systems. One prefers the primacy of religious laws, another is amenable to being governed with civil laws, the third one hates Nigeria and can’t stand the other two- they can’t wait to even leave then you have the minorities who are caught up in these crucibles of egotistical politics, power tussles and ethnic suspicions.

https://twitter.com/cappadiszle/status/1683425042279849988?s=46&t=cDvmaODjfVry7evXWsXd0A

Hopefully, Tinubu will position SW well for this eventuality. Time is ticking…tick…tock…

Politics / Re: Why The Ijebu Insist They Are Not From Ile-ife by Creeper: 1:22am On Jul 19, 2023
TajuDEENaMao:
Whenever you read the account of the Ijebu people about their origin they usually insist they are not from Ile-Ife, as history presents it.

They always trace their history to Sudan.,

Stop posting nonsense and learn how to separate factual history from political revisionism.

Ijebus do not trace their history to Sudan - Ijebu people migrated from Ife in different waves and settled in different areas. And the last wave was the Obanta one that started the Awujale dynasty in Ijebu Ode.

The whole Sudan nonsense started when the British colonists divided Ijebus into two, with the creation of Remo. And West Africa also used to be referred to as Western Sudan in ancient times.

Ijebus are seafarers - similar to Mahin and Itsekiris hence culturally and linguistically, they’re all similar.

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 1:43pm On Jul 12, 2023
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sukkot:
can you interact on it like nairaland and have friends and have long drawn out conversations ? On twitter that is.

Newark was junkie and gangbanger town last time I passed through it

Lol bro you and women. Well do you . You know I can't be discussing fornication right lmao

Yeah listen my advice to you will be to go to Abuja . It's very stable. Just forget Lagos. If you are dealing with apps you can pretty much do that remotely so Abuja would be a good stable fit for you . I think I might relocate there soon. This Lagos too crowded but I know tinubu will turn things around. He sorrounding himself with happening boys. I am familiar with 2 egbons in his cabinet who were happening big boys in LASU and friends to my big sister. Toyin subir and Tokunbo Abiru . The man will turn it around and raise up everywhere so people can spread out

Yes, you can do all that bro. But the word count is limited. If you’re comfortable here - you can stay here since you’re an established celebrity on these sides. On Twitter, it’s gonna take time for you to build a fan base like you have here unless you can say outlandish things that will make you go viral. It’s up to you, my G.

Lol, dem man there are just inherently violent people. And most of them are either very fat or frail but they have too many screws missing in their heads. A lot of them aren’t normal people tbh. I like NYC tho since it’s basically just like London but a tad more violent and ghetto.

Are you Jehovah Witness? LOL. Bro, enjoy live to the fullest - you have only got one life. Shyt, look at the young brave hearts getting slaughtered in Ukraine - that’s a daily reminder that human life is just as worthless as those of animals. So, you just have to make the best out of it and enjoy it to the fullest while you can.

Yes, I’ll shout you if mandem agree on the naija sojourn. I’ve never been to Abuja (it’s always Lagos for me) but one of my bredrins went there to do a project for some naija billionaire’s daughter a few years ago and he said it’s hot out there and the humidity is terrible. Then again, that was his first time in naija (he’s an Edo/Delta guy via his parents tho).
Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 1:20pm On Jul 12, 2023
AntiMarxist:


World Igbo Congress was modelled after the World Jewish Congress.

These are the Zionist elements in Ibo intelligentsia while the Zikist movement was a Marxist one.

To buttress this point, the WIC is purely an ethnic one in terms of composition with a heavy leaning to Zionism.

While Zikism - which to my understanding is Afro Marxism - had a potpourri of misguided non Ibos in their ranks and had as their core doctrine Marxism with a communist vision for Nigeria.

The Zikists of today are the Obidients while IPOB represents all that WIC Zionism entails which is Ibo Zionism tyed and dyed in international Zionism.

They are but two faces on a Jewish shekkel coin and represent the same ambition.

The WIC and IPOB don't hide their ethnic chauvanism in the form of Ibo Jewish false claims towards promoting an Ibo supremacist ideology while charting a false history of the Ibo.

The Obidient are mostly Ibo who mask under the umbrella of liberalism just like the Jewish Bolsheviks and every other communist movement to sweep the west. They shed their iboness and false claims to Zionism towards disarming others to relinquish their own bonafide heritage towards promoting a stealth heist.

You saw this with LP in Lagos where under "one Nigeria " banner, LP zoned most of their tickets to Ibos with the daft Yorubas in their movement not seeing the Ibo agenda in plain sight.

Marxism(the ideology) gave birth to Communism.

Communism is Zionism which in turn is Judaism.

I agree with your post about Igbos modelling everything they do after Zionism. And it seems we both agree that it started with Zik, however, Sukkot thinks it started with Zik’s dad.

But we all agree that Igbo consciousness revels in Zionism. They were on their way to Palestine the whole of Nigeria if not for the counter-coup in 1967 and the subsequent Biafran war. And it’s probably the reason why a lot of Nigerians would never allow Igbos to rule Nigeria.

Regardless, Nigerians need to be very weary of Igbos. If not, they will end up like Palestinians.

……….

Anyway, I think where we disagree is your understanding of the isms. I can see that you read a lot - so I think you need to study these isms separately (without conspiracy) to understand the concepts behind all of them. The only ism that’s similar to Zionism is ultra-capitalism since both are about a few powerful elites controlling everything. And all Zionists are ultra-capitalists.

Admittedly, a lot of the people behind these isms were Jews, the same way Zionism is a Jewish movement. However, they were anti-Zionists and these ideologies don’t align with Zionist ideals.

1Sharon:

It doesn't surprise me to hear that the Kray Twins are Jewish. Jews are experts at faking their names to hide their identity. It's their infiltration tactic to blend in. I'm hearing talks that Jack the Ripper may have been Jewish aswell.

So what does Igbo mean in Igbo Language?

I thought Igbo people pride in commiting mass suicides instead of being taken as slaves? So it turns out they were ran through and carted away the most? Interesting !

I believe their mum was Jewish, so that automatically made them Jewish since Jewish lineage is matrilineal. But I think their dad was Irish and the guy who mentored them was also Irish hence most people thought they were of only Irish descent. And Irish mobsters have always been as vicious as Italian mobs/mafias.

Jack the Ripper was never caught, so no can really say what ethnicity he was. However, almost all those arrested and questioned were Jewish. And there was a recent publication that claimed he was a Polish Jew.

I don’t understand Igbo but I doubt the word “Igbo” has any meaning in Igbo language. I just posted what I read about the origins of the Igbo identity. Their language was also codified and made intelligible by a Yoruba man. And I believe Igbo language is a mesh of different languages hence it tends to overlap the languages of a lot of its neighbours.

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Education / First Yorùbá Textbook Unveiled In China by Creeper: 12:52pm On Jul 12, 2023
Èkìtì State University don, Prof Goke Alamu has announced the unveiling of the first Yorùbá textbook in China.

He narrated how the textbook came to fruition in a post.

“Just produced in China.I’m just very happy because this is the first Yorùbá textbook in China”, he posted.

He disclosed that he was contacted by the Beijing Foreign Studies University around 2020 during the COVID-19 crisis to come to China and set up a Yorùbá programme for the institution.

Prof Alamu explained that he could have been in China since then, but for the lockdown occasioned by the pandemic.

“So, I started an online teaching for their students after writing the syllabus and the approval.

“Later, the University got an approval from the government and a publishing company was approved for the publication of the first Yorùbá textbook for students”, he said.

“I worked with three Professors who had the opportunity to study the language in the US. This is the product of our efforts after three years. I will be going to China in September to test run the book. I have two students already at UI who would be trained and take over from me.

“Prof Alamu also said that he had taught students of the institution for two years online, saying “but they are now here to feel the culture of us and improve their proficiency.”
https://theyorubatimes.com/first-yoruba-textbook-unveiled-in-china/

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 5:53pm On Jul 10, 2023
sukkot:
bro I never understand twitter ,What's the fascination. Are they still limited to like 20 words per post ? Not my thing at all. Lol Ghanaians and east and South Africans do be outrageously voluptuous . Not necessary my thing though. Those curves be too dangerous for me. Woman like that drop one baby and it's game over lol. She can't pass through the door after that lol. When she pregnant you need a wheelchair lol. Ok that's wassup I was in treachs ( naughty by nature ) neighbourhood in New Jersey back in the days. East orange New Jersey. I was in the hood hanging out with some naija doctors who were still doing their residency so they were broke as a joke . But those niggas are paid today. Oh best believe that Ukrainian situation is end game. I am impressed that you sense it too. Most fools think it would blow over. I don't. I know this is end game . Bro naija is jollof life. Enjoyment galore if you got the paper. But misery if your paper is lacking. It's nice though, great food, great weather, no council tax lol and beautiful future wives everywhere lol. I love it. It's smashing mate.

Twitter is pretty cool. I have been there on/off since 2010. You just need to monitor the algorithm and what you’re reading on there. There are a lot of nutters on there as well.

I rarely post there due to the sensitivity of my job/career (used to tweet a lot back in the day) but you get every information in real time and read diverse opinions.

America is a backward country compared to Europe and most of Jersey is a shithole. But there’s more money there to be made. Then again, you can make big bank in London if you know your way around. I never went to East Orange - been to Newark, Jersey City and went to Atlantic city a few times.

Not naturally a big bunda nigga as well - I’m more of breastman naturally. My love for big bunda is like mood swings - I just snap in and out periodically. This recent mood in the last couple of years was influenced by US BBL epidemic. After tapping some BBLs - it’s only right to go on a natural big bunda run. Alie? LOL. I’m slowly but surely snapping out of it again. But I can’t lie, I’ve clapped some ridiculously big bundas that made me wanna live there forever. I had some Ethiopian ting a couple of months ago and that shyt was like an ocean wave - it was ridiculous.

I might need to send you 2 maggys (magnum tonic drink) - once you drink both, you’ll be able to handle them. And once you start putting in work - all you’re gonna hear is noise pollution, looool.

I wanna do something in naij (biz) but the instability just scares me off all the type. I’ve got a couple of apps my boys and I invested in during the BLM thing to tap into the “patronise black businesses” wave but they flopped. Would like to try them in Naij because of the huge population. And other things as well. That’s home (especially Yorubaland). I just hope Big Tinubu tilt its fortunes on the right path. And also Lagos, they need to reduce the population, so more people in diaspora can come down. The crowd there is just too scary.
Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 5:27pm On Jul 10, 2023
AntiMarxist:


www.nairaland.com/attachments/17429980_images7_jpeg_jpegc250b88d3a108a1e74e6c9bf7bb78252


I’ll just correct you on the surface level without getting too deep/technical.

The only thing all the isms you listed have in common with Zionism is the Jewish presence in all of them. But they have nothing in common in Zionism.

Yes, a lot of the bolsheviks were Jews. Ditto Lenin (since he’ll always be at the centre of communism) and Karl Marx (he was the face of Marxism). However, all of them were anti-Zionists.

I think you need to do more reading to understand these ideologies.
Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 4:46pm On Jul 10, 2023
sukkot:
nah not sure who bro is, I encountered him for the first time yesterday but I do love a good conspiracy lmao. As per the Kray twins they don't have your typical British look. They look Slavic / Jewish and so I am more inclined to believe that there is more to them than the east London mobster stories they have been credited with. I believe the rabbit hole runs very deep with those two and I can see them in Enugu as the muscle bringing in the logistics for the war equipments. I can see that. Bro they said the name Igbo was given to them by bishop ajayi crowther which means the bush people. Like they have the bushmen of the kalahari desert. Derek delboy chisora lol. As per zik and Zionism, the history of the Igbo man with Zionism goes way beyond nnamdi azikiwe junior as far back as nnamdi azikiwe senior. It is that ideology that galvanised azikiwe senior when he and his Igbo cohorts were hobnobbing with lord lugard and etching out their devious plans of consolidation and dominion. And believe me bro it has everything to do with the European Jew. The European Jew has been in Nigerian affairs since the 1400s starting with the Portuguese Jews of Portugal

Lol, I saw him recently trying to shyt on Marxism. And as someone who grew up studying Marxism - I had to call him out, lol. The guy is nuts, lol.

Yes, I think Ajayi Crowther and white missionaries coined the “Igbo” name but it came from what their neighbours called them - “Igbon” and “Onigbo” since they were raiding them undisturbed as slaves. And a lot of the settlements that became “Igbo” were Edoid, Igala, Idoma, remnants of Bantu and Ibibio hence they created warrant chiefs for them to galvanise them into their new identity. There’s a reason why you would find “Nkechi” amongst the Bantus in Kenya/Uganda; “Olisa” in Igala; and “Chibuzo”/“Chisora” amongst the Shona in Zimbabwe.

If you compare them to Yoruba for example: Yorubas have always been linked linguistically, however, Ife and Oyo empires were able to merge all the loose Yoruba people under one identity for a long period until all hell broke loose after the collapse of Oyo empire and outside forces who took advantage of the opportunity.

Erm, I still think the Igbo consciousness that revolves around Zionism came from Zik since he was the first galvanising figure they had. Zik schooled at Howard Uni with the likes of Alain Locke who was among the African American scholars that shaped the post-Dubois NAACP movement alongside American Jews. And he must’ve fell in love with Zionism during that period hence he copied everything in the Zionist playbook - to shape Igbo consciousness. Igbos weren’t calling themselves “the chosen ones to lead the African race” until Zik returned to Nigeria. Zik was the father of Igbo supremacy/domination/covetousness. Heck, he was the mastermind behind the 1966 Igbo coup.

Conversely, Awolowo studied Marxism when he was in London. And when he returned to Nigeria - he combined the native Yoruba intelligence and some of the things he learnt from the Marxist ideology to create the post-colonial Yoruba consciousness. Once you read some of Awo’s books - it’s very glaring.

Yes, I agree with you about Portuguese Jews. Most of the sailors, slave raiders and slave merchants were Jews and British pirates. Heck, the Jews were the ones who did the first voyage to West Africa in search of gold after they read about Mansa Musa in Arab manuscripts. I think Columbus (he was also a Jew) was on that voyage as well.

I still think transatlantic slavery and perhaps colonisation wouldn’t have happened if Mansa Musa hadn’t made that trip to Mecca with all the gold he carried with him. Europe was about to collapse financially until they discovered that a man from inner Africa had so much gold. And they came to West Africa to find him and the rest is history.

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 4:15pm On Jul 10, 2023
AntiMarxist:

The Kray Twins were Jewish.

Their mother, Violet Lee was Jewish.

Have you ever heard of the Cambridge Spy ring ?

I will leave you to do your own research on this and find out for yourself that the MI6 under Baron Victor Rothschild operated the notorious Cambridge Spy recruiting ring targeting homosexual students of privelaged background who he will blackmail in compromising sexual positions with other homosexuals or even small boys whom the Krays provided.

Till this day Baron Victor Rothschild is considered as the 6th man in the Cambridge Spy ring that spied for Communist Russia .


So I want you to know that as much as the Frankfurt School had infiltrated all prestigious western universities with their cultural Marxism poison, the likes of Victor Rothschild operated a honey pot blackmailing spy recruiting outfit across universities in Europe and America.

The likes of Zik and later Ojukwu would have foolishly been swayed to adopt Jewish Marxism/Communism or Zionism without indoctrination but all because it was the cool thing to do as an African student in the west with no identity worth projecting. An average Bini or Yoruba or even Awusa student in abroad would not have been attracted to Jewish communist groups on campus because those groups were meant for the niggers of America who had no culture to begin with.

Following from the last statement , I want you to do a research on Bioleninism and see why communist and Marxist ideals always takes root in a people with nothing to be proud of.

It is for this reason that while the Yoruba, Bini, Efik or Awusa slaves always found their way home, not one single Ibo slave ever bothered going back to trace his village. Why should he ? When there is nothing there to return to.

You’re probably right about their mum being Jewish. However, their dad was Irish and people generally referred to them as being Irish.

Also, they weren’t the only mobsters in the London in that era. There were full-blooded Jewish mobsters, English crime families, Turkish mobsters and even Chinese Triads, in different areas. So, why would Baron Victor Rothschild pick them despite their notoriety (they were the most popular and notorious) if it were meant to be a clandestine operation? It negates the stealthiness in whatever they were trying to achieve hence I’m a tad iffy.

Anyway, I do agree that African students back then either studied Marxism or Zionism. But the issue I have with you is how you tend to conflate the two. Both are on the different ends of the spectrum.
Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 1:22pm On Jul 10, 2023
sukkot:
yeah see the thing about igbo ? They are a social breeding experiment of the white man. How does Satan conquer you ? Divide and conquer . The white man did that experiment successfully in places like India. Go in there with many white men to sleep with all their women so as to creAte a new class of lighter skin people through which he can then use to rule and control and conquer the darker skin people and so this breeding experiment has started from the time of Nnamdi azikiwes father back in the turn of the 19th century. They would bring tonnes of white men to breed with igbo women. However in Nigeria that experiment failed because the Hausas became stronger and conquered the igbos and introduced their seed into the mix . And so what you see with the igbo is a mixture of warring DNAs which mixes very well in some of them and mixes very badly in some of them. Like for example the ones in which it mixes well in ? You look and say yeah that’s a very handsome guy or a good looking woman. But the ones it doesn’t mix well in look like caricature gargoyles from another planet lol. Big muscly , hairy, wild looking, huge lips, scattered teeth, head shaped like the map of Nigeria. Which is why I said whomever did that meme has studied them very well. But like I said initially ? If you see the ones in whom the mixture is great ? They look very good. So I am not hater. I congratulate

I swear that AntiZ1st bro is the same as AntiMarxist, no? I read his conspiracies on the thread and I don’t know how plausible it’s but I’ll add my 2cents.

I’ve always known the Kray Twins to be Irish (based on what we were taught in school) albeit they might also have Jewish ancestry since most European Jews were just as poor as the Irish when they were born (that was the era when Jews were synonymous with ghetto until it became a black thing in recent times). Both were notorious gangsters that caused havoc in London and I doubt that have any links with Zionists. Then again, you never know: mobsters/gangsters, banksters and politicians are always linked - a classic example was the late Berlusconi.

As far as their connection with Biafran war: I’d wager that they were probably arms dealers. That’s where it ends.

If you study the Igbo history, they’re an admixture of ancient Igala, Idoma, Edoid, Ibibio and some ancient Bantu people that didn’t migrate out of that region to the rest of Africa with the other Bantus. Even the name “Igbo” was derived from Edo word for slaves called “Igbon” and Igala word for slaves called “Onigbo”. And Igbo language is an admixture of Igala, Edoid, Ibibio and ancient Bantu hence their language share similarities with all these languages. Heck, the name “Chibuzo” in the meme I posted in the OP is also a Bantu name. Chisora is a Zimbabwean boxer based in London and you could swear he’s Igbo based on the name if you didn’t know he’s from Zimbabwe.

That’s basically why they lived sparsely everywhere in the forest with nothing to unite them and no shared history. Hence they were the most susceptible to being traded as slaves and raped in continuum by slave raiders. The result of the rape is why they have more people of the lighter shade. The same thing happened with the Fante in Ghana. Fante are from the same stock as Ashante but somehow Fante ended up being of a lighter shade than Ashante.

Now to Biafran war: Igbos had no collective Identity and shared history - their identity was created for them by colonists. And Zik was the first galvanising figure they had.

I think while Zik was schooling in the US and during his interactions with a lot of African American scholars, who ended up being the backbone of NAACP with American Jews - he discovered Zionism. And I believe he must’ve returned to Nigeria to replicate the Zionist ideology with Igbos, as part of their conscious.

Zik returned to Nigeria in the 1930s and started an Igbocentric newspaper (Jews controlled the print media in the US at the time). Then he and other Igbos started calling Igbos “the chosen people to lead all black people” (same ideology as Zionists), etc. That was also when Judaism started creeping into Igbo consciousness. And it continued until they hijacked the whole country in order to lord over everyone. The fallout of that was basically what led to the Biafran war.

Evidently, I doubt it has anything to do with European Jews and all the conspiracies bro is talking about. Igbos independently - via Zik - copied Zionism on their own - for Igbo consciousness due to their limited history and lack of identity. And that’s still the nucleus of their problem till date.

[ignore typos and/or if I’m incoherent - I’m posting from a phone]

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 12:34pm On Jul 10, 2023
sukkot:
lol turned to beastiality and beast of no nation chisom. You wild brah . Chisom looks like that rapper called naeto C. Carbon copy. Whomever made that meme, and it appears it’s a white guy , must have lived in Nigeria before. You don’t come up with something like that if you have never lived in Nigeria . Yeah as far as igbo and Yoruba marriage and clapping chicks ? Sounds very dangerous especially considering the political climate lol. You better be strapped if you are clapping Nkechi cheeks today cuz her brothers can run up on you at anytime. You better have a desert eagle or a glock on deck lmao. Oh word ? You was in America for ph d ? Playa hating degree . What state you was at ?

Lol. Bro, I was just describing the pics. A lot of Igbos tend to have very strong genes hence strong phenotype and you can tell they’re Igbos from a mile away even when they’re mixed.

I don’t think the white boy made the meme - I’m guessing he saw it in the rabbit-hole of Twitter. I added Nigeria/Yoruba to my Twitter algorithm earlier this year shortly before the elections and I see crazy memes from time to time but this has to be the craziest meme I’ve seen thus far. It isn’t shocking because most of the creative/educated tribal warlords that used to post on NL at its peak - in its heyday - have migrated to Twitter (based on what I noticed).

The only old timers I see on here is the Big Uncs that used to school me on Lagos/Yoruba history when I first started reading Yoruba history, Chief Negro_ntns/Dudu_negro aka 1mperialYoruba and I think I know the bro LegendHer0. But I’ve seen some of the old cats like the chameleon Afam.4.eva and my sons barcan1sta and anam.bra.1stson on my timeline on Twitter because they’re using their NL names. So, you know all the old NL tribal warlords are active on Twitter and one of them must’ve created the meme.

Nah, I ain’t clapping Nkechi’s cheeks - I’m cheeks with big bunda for now and Nkechi ain’t got no bunda, lol. So gotta stick with Ghanaians, East Africans and Southern Africans for now. Shyt, when you’re giving those chicks back shots - you’ll understand why Keith Murray was screaming “badonkadonk” back in the day, loool.

I was in the tri-state area. I’m going next year tho. But that’s if the Ukraine war doesn’t snowball into a world war because it looks like it’s the end game tbh. At the rate the Ukrainians are getting slaughtered/wrecked like rats - I doubt they would have an army by December. And that’s enough for NATO to get involved since the UK is already pushing for the direct involvement of NATO.

What’s Naija saying?

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 1:29pm On Jul 09, 2023
sukkot:
grin grin those pics of the lineage unfolding when Shymmexx clap nkechi cheeks funny as heck bro. ahhh well bro happy clapping to you lolz. that nigga chisom look crazier than an asylum inmate

Lol, that’s what I deduced from the meme because it turned into bestiality as soon as ‘Aremo’ met ‘Nkechi’. Chisom is the beast of no nation, lol.

Whoever made meme must’ve copied it from 4chan or one of these Twitter crusaders who’re against interracial relationships (both black and white).

Anyway, I think the inter-tribal (ethnic) marriage between Yorubas and Igbos is grossly overblown. I don’t even need any type of sample size or stats/figures to know it’s overblown. It’s basically just another social media fallacy that has been magnified to create a faux reality like everything else. Most people will always date/marry people from their own group. And aren’t Igbos the same people you have to pay your life savings in bride price to marry? So, why would Yoruba men who have more options pay that ridiculous tax, when most Igbo men can’t afford it?

The narrative defies logic and I’m sure it’s mostly pushed by Igbo men who like spamming everywhere with the narrative that their women are the most beautiful women in the solar system - like pimps - to attract Yoruba men. And Igbo women who’re in a one-sided war with Yoruba women - in competition - for Yoruba men.

Admittedly, I’m probably guilty because I used to call myself, ‘King of Igbo chicks’, back in the day on this forum - when I was running through bare Igbo chicks, lol. But this shyt is on steroids now. I’d even wager that the average Yoruba man would marry a non-Nigerian before marrying an Igbo chick (at least from my experience in my neck of the woods).

Regardless, I’m on a different type of time now and I’ve not checked any Nigerian chick since 2018 when I went to America briefly for my Ph.D - before I abandoned it and returned to London during covid-19 because I didn’t want to take the vaccine.

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Politics / Yoruba Vs Igbo E-war Made It To American Liberal Twitter by Creeper: 10:31am On Jul 09, 2023
LMAOOO.

Big Sukkot are they saying man can’t clap the cheeks of Igbo chicks long d*ck (pauseeee) style anymore?

Who the hell made this meme? LOL

The comments are killing me. LOOOL

https://twitter.com/oregonmapguy/status/1677515579991703557?s=46&t=cDvmaODjfVry7evXWsXd0A

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Events / Re: Ojude Ode Festival 2023 (pictures) by Creeper: 9:26pm On Jul 03, 2023
The video has gone viral on Twitter and it has about 10million views now, lol.

https://twitter.com/theniyifagbemi/status/1675806541700636672?s=46&t=cDvmaODjfVry7evXWsXd0A

Eweso, Ijebu Omo Alare
Omo Alagemo Meridinlogun (16 Alagemos)
Omo a fidi pote mole (Oba Fidipote)
Omo Olu Iwa, Omo Obanta
Kekere Ijebu Owo, Agba Ijebu Owo, Okunrin Ijebu Owo, Obinrin Ijebu Owo
Ewesoooo

Proudly Ijebu x Remo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Qv3Qdyevg

Seun Mynd44 Mukina2 nifpmod
Politics / Re: Lagos State Indigenes In Diaspora Ask Sanwo-olu To Adopt England’s Property Law by Creeper: 2:42pm On Jul 01, 2023
redsun:


Why should you care about what an agitated animals say? He does not know any better. He cannot keep up with the trend of civilization, and he believes that he can weep up tribal sentiments that encourage laziness and thuggery by trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the people who keeping him alive.

His kind are the filth of the earth, and if Nigeria were a country, he will be in jail or a psychiatric holding.

Stfu, you old junkie and cannibalistic gorilla.

Thread is self-explanatory but because you are an idiotic bigot, you decided to post this: so-called indigenous scroungers.

I’m going to ask you again: what do you mean by, “so-called indigenous scroungers”?

I don’t subscribe to that victimhood shyt and I’ll break your fukking jaw, you fukking old fool.

Primitive pauper and cannibal

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Events / Re: Ojude Ode Festival 2023 (pictures) by Creeper: 2:35pm On Jul 01, 2023
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Events / Re: Ojude Ode Festival 2023 (pictures) by Creeper: 2:33pm On Jul 01, 2023
I have about 20 more pictures to post but it’s not letting me post them.

You can add more pictures if you have any

Politics / Re: Lagos State Indigenes In Diaspora Ask Sanwo-olu To Adopt England’s Property Law by Creeper: 2:30pm On Jul 01, 2023
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Yorubapiglet:
Fear who? angry

Disgruntled and decimated mizcreants that are slavishly dependent of political hacks to exist? Chant your RONU nonsense to the high heavens and make sure implementation is swift. No need for useless rants.

Nobody buys that 'silent enforces' nonsense. If you want to chase them away, do that immediately and stop sponsoring useless groups to get validation.

All oil companies in ND must employ strictly people from N-Delta

All major companies that use Lagos as a base of operations , must relocate to their source of natural resource.

Even Air Peace will relocate it's head quarters to the SE and employ only IGBO personnel.

Look at a region dependent on taxation and foolish agbero empowerment, pulling chains that are weak

Niggaz are happy ..people need to see you pathetic things for whom you really are. Despicable..spits

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Go enrol in a proper school and learn how to read/write, you illiterate oaf.

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