Farfalla:


Thing is, does he even believe what he said?

These same men keep talking about chop and clean mouth all over Nairaland, calling females ashawo up and down, and talking about toto like their lives depend on it. Are these the same men someone is claiming come with sincerity?

It's a wonder how he typed that with a straight face.

You are using emotional blackmail as a way of deflecting. Why would you blame the men for whatever goes wrong with women

Farfalla:

Forget about women. Tell me more about the sincerity of men.

Why did you frown at the fact that men are the sincere gender?. Tell me why you think men are insincere.

Farfalla:


You don't say.

It's self explanatory, women are cunning, slick, devious, slippery, deceptive which is naturally the make up of a gender considered as the friendlier, softer and nicer gender.

Favfables1:


You're sounding as if sex is one valuable commodity that a woman has to give...

Well...
If she "gives" sex in exchange for something, then she's a prostitute ...

Do you know how powerful is the bedroom to a woman? It is a place where she turns the man into a cub.

Farfalla:


Hehehehehe.

You know the "logical" gender too well.

When a man tells you that he doesn't like gold diggers, he's telling you in essence that he likes them and is about to marry one.

You don't get. Men are the victims of women's deceptive tendencies. Men comes with sincerity, while women come with deception. Therefore, more often than not, men are the victims.
Moreover, if I were you, I'd be very worried about the caste system/ stratification in the women society.
There is a class of;

- the Gold diggers

-Slay queens

- Jezebels

- Prostitutes, etc
Sometimes I wonder who is sitting at the top of the chain. This is a conscious & deliberate creation of women to take every advantage of men.

Raspberries:


Lol... Ofcourse women are... Typical... Blame women for your crimes...

Your opinion doesn't mean sh** to me... I told you I'm a virgin cause I want you to keep your bullsh** far away from me...

You keep telling me you're a virgin, I assumed you are. Nonetheless my instinct is telling me something about you.
You can't wait to lose your virginity, you're tired of holding on.

Hayee:
nothing concerns me No be una dey chase slay queens Be ready for consequences na

Are the slay queens not Women? Is there any difference between a slay queen and a woman? What's the difference between a girl on a hijab and a girl on a mini skirt?

Raspberries:
And what have Nigerian men done? African men? Cause you're all low IQ primates who've contributed nothing... Absolutely nothing...

Black men can't even self-govern themselves...

Without White men, you subhumans would be swing from trees stark naked, worshipping rocks...

The same country Nigeria men have ruined? White men gave you independence, what did you do with it?

From one evil to another... Now, the worth of a human skull is ₦5000...

Not to mention the insecurity, poverty, corruption...

Black men equals mediocrity...

Don't even dare compare yourself with White women... Don't even try that sh** with Black women... Atleast, they aren't fetish, bloodthirsty, morons who've ruined their own countries and those abroad; internet fraud, drugs, etc...

Black men are worthless...

You can only drag with Black women...

You have nothing to offer someone from a second, first world nation... Except for your BBC... And that's a racist stereotype... But you're not intelligent enough to know...

Go argue with the retārd who's bragging shamelessly that he wants to offer White women (his superiors) sex so they feed his lazy poverty stricken ass...

I'm a virgin... So if you wanna slut-shame anyone, start from your mother...

Women are at the center of every crimes committed. You enjoy the paparazzi that men splash on you including the latest fashion vogue in town. Behind every criminal, there is a woman. You simply cannot exonerate yourself without first accepting culpability.
You know there's something about virgins that particularly appeals to me but you don't have to call yourself one to curry my favour.
I might just expose you if you push it further.

Raspberries:
Then the tables are tired and you're the one offering your sex (big black cọck) for her money...

Every Nigerian men wants to marry an oyibo cause Nigerian men are entitled parasite from the poverty capital of the world who actually have nothing to offer...

What can you do for your parents?

What do Nigerian women offer other than sex?. Everything you offer rises and falls on sex - All boils down to sex.
The white women fought for women rights, rights to wear trousers, rights to vote and be voted for, rights to be elected as a member of lawmakers. This was as early as the 17th-18th century. The fourth wave feminism that is being touted & misrepresented by Nigerian women was started by the whites women.
Can you mention one peculiar rights law that Nigeria women have been able to achieve and domesticate across the country.
To me, I believe women are same ol bunch but the whites are just a little better breed.

Hayee:
If bring sex to the table had no benefits women will not bring it

Abi you want to tell those men don't like the sex it's even better to put sex sef nothing to loose, it's something you both enjoyed

Highest our hypocritical society will judge you when they are tired they will face the business that feeds them

As far as I'm concerned virtuous woman,wife or girl doesn't pay


Nigerian men are actually in desperate need of blood sucking and heartless gold diggers A.K.A Jezebels
PEACE

Should we then put the lives of our young hardworking guys at risks because they like sex?
How then do we build a better future if we allowed sexual rascality from the women?

..

For every relationship, men are prepared coming to the table. No man comes to the table empty. As a matter of fact, no woman possesses the character to stay on an empty table with a man.When a woman comes to the table, she meets a well prepared table - a table with the finances, values, secured future, protection, among others. A woman is a reactionary being, having observed the table and her lack of capacity to match the man's offer, she could only offer in return what the man does not have. And if there is anything every man does not have, it is the coochie.

We can all agree that it is easier for a woman to get away with offering NOTHING on the table than a man ever would. The society makes excuses for a woman who offers nothing but would rather receive almost everything on the table. Whereas the society condemns any man who dare takes from a woman without giving anything commiserate in return.

SEX AS A REWARD SYSTEM:
A woman who has no (stable) source of income can afford to sleep all day, eat all the food while the man works all day and pays all the bills. In this case, she offers nothing but sex, she uses sex as a reward system to compensate the man for all his efforts. She can give all the sex styles in the book all year as far as the man meets her material needs.

SEX AS A BARGAINING POWER:
Women who have a stable or fairly stable source of income fall in this category.
If any of these women were asked to pay all the bills while the man sleeps all day and offer only sex, all hell would let loose, she would walk out of the relationship the next minute. A woman would rather walk away than allow anyone takes away her most effective bargaining power. In other words, if you take away sex from a woman, you have taken away her bargaining power. She uses sex as bargaining chip to get more money, seeks a man's favour and to influence a man's decision.

SEX AS A PSYCHOLOGICAL TOOL:
Women often say they bring communication, cooking, cleaning, childbearing to the table. However, we are aware that all of these are gender roles and they are specific to the women's department. Sadly, women have found a way of deploying these roles as a psychological tools for their self interests. For instance, when a woman communicates with you - picks up her phone to say some soothing words or sends some romantic messages to a man, she is laying the groundwork for sex and preparing the mind of the man for sex.
Likewise, when she cooks, she does so as to get the sex. sex is not appealing to an hungry man. When she nourishes you with good meals, you have the energy to last longer on her.
When it comes to cleaning, men usually do not like a dirty environment, much less having sex in a dirty place. She cleans up and arranges the bed as neatly as possible for the right kind of sex to occur.
Childbearing is the decision of both partners, ideally, a woman wants it as much as the man wants it. And for pregnancy to occur, sex must take place.
For the sake of clarity, the end product of her constantly communicating with you, cooking your favorite delicacies, and cleaning up the house is ultimately for the purpose of sex.

WHAT A MAN WANT FROM A WOMAN.
To women, sex is all there is to offer either as a reward system, bargaining chip or for psychological advantage but to men, sex is the cheapest commodity he could easily get from anywhere.
A man expect to see a woman whom he can respect. By respect, I mean a woman who shares similar values and goals with the man.
When a woman has lesser or no identifiable values, then she has nothing to offer a man. Also, a man expect that a woman makes him better than she meets him.
A man does not want a leech or a liability. Therefore, sex is not what a man expect you to bring to the table but you rather work on yourself and improve on your standards. If a man wants sex from you, he knows how to locate it.

DrFunmisticGlow:
She didn't say a single lie.

Another men to avoid are men with a body count above 3 cos they would have treated an STI in the past, men who don't want to use a condom, men who already have a baby mama.

They're all irresponsible and will end in premium tears.

Lol.. You're trying to slut shame men. The joke is on you. Fishes are made for cats, cats are not made for a fish.

Vinnie2000:
Lolss. Where is Iyaebe, Candidlady, Jennyclay and Co, food don land for una o! But seriously, how can a Guy be overused?

That's the question she will never be able to answer. She must have been talking from the place of heart breaks & pains.

A man 30+ single has the same quality of life as a man 30+married. Irrespective of marital status, men in their 30s are in the prime of their lives. They share the same level of energy, career expectations and appreciable level of responsibility.
Men in their 30s & single are the most coveted by ladies, while it appears they are very selective yet are being guided by reasoning. Ladies are easily more attracted to them because ladies naturally love men who are more matured to life approach & more reasonable to their feminine make up.
On the other hand, women who are 30s and single have less quality of life. The law of depreciation is fast catching up with her. The quality of her body drops, the quality of her physical attraction drops, her energy level drops, crucially, the quality of her eggs drops. A lady in her 30s & single enjoys the leverage of bouncing on any available dicks without having to hurt anyone's feelings.
A man above 30 & single can get the most desirable of women while a woman above 30 & single would only make do with the most available of men.

Ladycewhy:
Coming from a gender only known as fraudsters ,drug pushers and ritual killers and terrorists to the international community.

Yet women queue on the line to lavish the proceeds of such vices and readily available to hawk their dignity for a bite of the cherry.

Ladycewhy:
Yet the wailing won't stop? Lol I know of four divorce cases,all within 5 years of marriage ,infact one was just two days old and it was the women who initiated the divorce .


Like I said , the door to exit is wider,and more women are choosing to walk out than bear the burden to keep it together. For how long do you think a woman will be your "submissive" under your authority? She might pretend to get the ring and maybe one or two kids .

Women are always free to walk out of the door but our authority remain with us. She either live single for the rest of her life or come back under the authority.

GRIMMJOE:
Our dear Op is confuse. You can't really blame our Nigerian women, they are not very smart.

Very confused, she just confirmed that they are truly leeches.

Biglittlelois:



Then tell us what men bring to the table apart from finance, and also the agenda men set for women to pass in other to qualify for the table.

Like I told Op, I will only reply your questions when she changes the title of the thread.

Ladycewhy:
Well go search for the lady who will be under your authority. Good luck with that.


I am only glad women of this generation are shedding religious and traditional shackles that held them down to miserable marriages and stuck with misogynists.

Woman, you can choose to remain single & lonely all in the cold just because you want to live independent of a man's authority. But the sad reality you can never run away from is the fact that the larger society itself is under the authority of men and women are a component unit of the society

Ladycewhy:
So not regarding a mere mortal like a master means feminism? .

Well done Mr authoritarian ,awon constituted authority . Go and look for someone's daughter to keep under authority because dem hand over her placenta give you the day dem born her.

We are all mere mortals, however in every systems or structures, there is an hierarchy.
In a home/ relationship, a man is at the top of the hierarchy.

Ladycewhy:
Lol. ,"Authority " "under" ,such choice of words. Well I am glad they don't have to be under authority. No mere mortal is a lord and savior just cos they dangle a penls.

Are you speaking on behalf of the rebellious women (feminists) or you're one of them.

Ladycewhy:
Enough of all this back and forth ,so tell us what more a man has to offer,lets hear it Mr chief negotiator.

First of all, correct the title of the thread.

Ladycewhy:

Lol

So the women of today who are in offices and markets are not groomed because they are not the "my Lord " type of women anymore?
Because for all I know women of today cna still cook ,clean ,take care of the kids, take care of the home and many even pay half the bills and some even more.


I think the problem is women of the past put all their afforts to groom and dolt over their daughters and left the boys to blend in after all " na man". The problem is men want wives like their mothers, the " suffer head " type of women who stayed and suffered and wore it like a badge of honor to prove to society they were virtuous.


Women today offer more in marriages and on the table ,the only difference is that the door to exit a marriage is now wider than it used to be and more women are choosing mental health and peace over bearing Mrs.

The reason the society is in disarray is because more women are refusing to stay under the authority of men. And that's the agenda of today's women -to compete with men.

Biglittlelois:



We are talking of relationships at least from the Op's perspective, not prostitutes that comes with pussy as their bargaining power, and who told you100 out of 100 women throw the pussy on the table? The women you are used to in your enclave? You seem to have comprehension issues, read the Op again, is finance the expectation men want from women because that is all they can also bring to the table?

Op was mistaken and she has been able to misinform you. The man is the chief negotiator while a woman is the respondent. You would be making a silly mistake limiting the man's table only to his financial capacity. To men, money is not the end but a means to an end.
The man sets the agenda and put your capacity to the test. If you pass, he gives you a role in his home and if you don't, he kicks you off the table.

Ladycewhy:
So by your logic ,do we now conclude that women of the past were bad heads and based marriages on pussy alone? .


And by the way it's also common sense that the table for men is bills and financial capability and responsibility . Deny and twist it all you want , MEN HAVE NOTHING TO PUT ON THE TABLE OTHER THAN MONEY.

Hence the reason they feel emasculated when they loose their jobs in marriages and become useless to themselves and nagging to their wife.

I don't know about men of other societies ,but Nigerian men see money as a means of control cos that is all they have to offer , hence they fear a woman that earns well or even more than them. You will hear "this one go fit submit so? ". Like why would a grown adult submit to you a mere mortal like her unto say you be Lord and savior?

Back in the day, societal & moral standards were all time high. Our mothers were prepared and groomed from home to become a proper wife material in sharp contrast to today's women who at best can be called a bride material. They are only being prepared to walk down the altar and thereafter, they recoil back to their true self.

A man's worth is beyond the money but the value he brings to the table. The value of a man is not limited to his financial capacity. When a man loses his job or sufferers a little setback, he puts his value into securing a better job or more streams of income. To men, money is a means to an end, not the end itself. But to women, money is the end, get the money & get the pussy.

Biglittlelois:



Oh, so if a lady tells you all she can bring to the table is her pussy, she is correct? you will not cry blue murder and call her all manner of obscenities, is that what you're saying?

I was only painting the OP a picture of a woman's bargaining power. 99% of women throw either their beauty or curves to the table while 100 out of 100 throw the pussy on the table. She believes she can get whatever she wanted on the table with the pussy.

Ladycewhy:
Lol says the ones who only come to the table to ask of what and what bills a woman will shoulder .

Maybe you should channel that energy to educate your fellow guys and what a table really means cos they have misconstrued the whole thing from the word go.



The table is actually not a place for negotiation as the man who actually asks the question already have expectations on what to hear and get.And 99 percent of the time it's is directly proportional to the woman's financial contribution.Admit it or not ,at the back of their mind ,their target is what percentage she can shoulder.

It is common sense that a place of negotiation is a place of offer. When a woman turns the table or attempt to turn the table, it provokes the man to increase his bargaining power.. Recently, the financial demands on women is fairly high because men have come to realize that he cannot build his future on a pussy but with a woman who has the wherewithal to build his home. Men are aware that two good heads are better than one good head and one good pussy. A good head is the one that carries value and not the one that carries a pussy.

The table is a place of negotiation, a place of offer. It is a place where capacities are put to the test. It is not to be confused as a place in exchange for gender roles as mostly viewed by women.
A woman's most bargaining power on the table is her pussy. She mounts on the table, lay on her back and spread the legs. The pussy is the trump card she throws on the table.
When a man comes to the table, he comes in the expectation of long term plans capable of achieving long term goals whereas when a woman comes to the table, she sizes up the table for self seeking advantage.



PS - I would be opening a counter thread anytime soon.

Czario:

So no spiritual backlash then ?

Nothing. There's no part of a fish you can't eat.

etel124:
Cool...Please cöntinue...One once told me and i quote 'if not for ur mum,am just having pity on ur mum,if not i would hv done something u wont ever forget'...My guys that nite for the hotel... i nor sleep...I was closely watching her performing like a serpent,..Saying some strange words...the urge for sex dissappear immediately na him i stay near the door incase everywhere want to catch fire..make i takeoff...Omo as morning manage reach na me first dress up...She come dey beg me say make i cum do...I jst disappear like wind...That was d end of our friendshp..Guysmany of them na python in disguise...please tread carefully oh....I don talk my own finish oh..

It was good you didn't sleep with her when you had the fear. But if you want to take the risk, you can urinate on her during sex or immediately after. Although it's better to let go of the sex than take the risk.

Czario:

OP what's your take on anal sex with women ?

You can ffuck all the holes in a woman's body.

TheSourcerer:
your moniker though what were you thinking? That Nl monikers can be changed,?

Never, I won't change it. Apart from blood, the cum is the most powerful fluid in a man.
I stopped having sex for six years to go fortify myself. If I cum on a woman, all her charms is gone. Whatever I preach here, I practice.
I work with male clients and I see them go through different kinds of torture from their women. Some were admitted into psychiatric homes. I can't bear it anylonger.