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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Shocks Crowd At Airport With Humility (video) by Drone17: 12:15pm On Apr 12, 2023
This kind of people are dangerous.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 8:51am On Apr 12, 2023
OasisX:
cool

......while some Dudes are still living in delusion, BAT and his Team are already cooking delicious meal for next Administration.
No BAT in the picture undecided
Satellite TV Technology / Re: Free To Air Satellite Tv General Thread by Drone17: 3:54pm On Apr 11, 2023
Who has tracked ABS @ 3w recently? I saw on Lyngsat that they have some nice FTA channels there. News and movies including African/Nollywood channels.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 3:25pm On Apr 11, 2023
Itsrm:


Yes, it was struck out because the party APM or so could not provide the INEC register it claimed labour party already sent to INEC that did not include Obis name.

Are you going to bet against APC not producing the INEC register in court?
The judgement also said that INEC published its names on Sept 20, that's about 3months from when PO joined the Labour party.

Again, the electoral act does not prevent any party from adopting or registering a member/candidate to vie for election anytime.

Besides, it's a pre-election matter which is statute barred.

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Politics / Re: Tinubu: APC Asks Election Tribunal To Dismiss Obi, Lp’s Petition, Gives Reasons by Drone17: 9:09am On Apr 11, 2023
Roboto11:
Responding, the APC asked the court to dismiss the suit on the ground that Mr Obi, the 1st petitioner, lacked requisite “locus standi” to institute the petition because he was not a member of LP at least 30 days to the party’s presidential primary to be validly sponsored by the party.

It said: “The 1st petitioner (Obi) was a member of PDP until May 24, 2022.

“1st petitioner was screened as a presidential aspirant of the PDP in April 2022.

“1st petitioner participated and was cleared to contest the presidential election while being a member of the PDP.

“1st petitioner purportedly resigned his membership of PDP on May 24, 2022 to purportedly join the 2nd petitioner (Labour Party) on May 27, 2022.

“2nd petitioner conducted its presidential primary on May 30, 2022 which purportedly produced 1st petitioner as its candidate, which time contravened Section 77(3) of the Electoral Act for him to contest the primary election as a member of the 2nd petitioner
A political party can adopt a candidate even without him being their member.

This response is out of the window.

😂😂😂

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 8:57am On Apr 11, 2023
Android17:
If his lawyer was representing him in court that is as good as him being in court. Your lawyer is your legal REPRESENTATIVE.
But then remitted more money to the "drug baron" than was forfeited? How does that work? The US govt won't relinquish a penny to a drug baron. If in doubt, show us a legal precedent to justify this claim.
I wonder how people let you get away with this claim. It is flimsy at best and tbvh, it fails the logic test. If the max limit is 500k, then it means the govt is allowed to take up to 500k and not below it. So the govt would have confiscated 500K of his money not 460k.


The truth is, alot of what is going on is the same emotive hullabaloo that preceded the elections. I have been using this Tinubu court case to actually rate Nigerian SANs and most of them are dullards.

The US govt confiscated the entirety of Tinubu's money that they related to proceeds from heroin sale and basically accused him of being a money launderer for the drug barons.

However he defended himself is immaterial but the bottom line is, the govt could not convict him of that accusation so they switched it to an issue of tax evasion for said sum. What that means is, since you are arguing that you made these monies legally, we are now alleging that you never paid taxes on those. Tinubu agreed to that and forfeited what would have been his tax and fine for evading the tax which summed up to $460k. The rest of his mula was remitted to him. That is all that happened.

If you people want to replace him as the president, your next best option is 2027 because even if he dies, Shettima is the constitutionally recognized replacement. Not Peter Obi.
My post was written in clear terms and simple English so that it would not be easily misunderstood. But because ignorance has clouded your eyes you will not get the points even if you read it ten times.

I will do my best again.

1. Before a case is brought to court there must be an investigation. During investigation you don't get represented by a lawyer. Tinubu was not in the US during the investigation and so the prosecutor opted for a forfeiture. The reason was not avoid the cost of carrying out a full blown investigation.

2. A forfeiture is also a punishment according to US laws. You cannot be punished unless you have accepted guilt. The forfeiture arrangement was accepted by Tinubu, that was an admission of guilt. He accepted it because it was a fair deal for him and he even signed a no disclaimer agreement. If the money was legit, he will fly to US to claim his hard earned money.

3. All drug related money will also fail tax evasion. This is common sense. I hope you don't need explanation.

4. I don't care you is president. All I am for is truth, justice and fairness.

https://home.treasury.gov/policy-issues/terrorism-and-illicit-finance/asset-forfeiture/forfeiture-overview

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 8:24am On Apr 11, 2023
Nostradamus1:
You seriously lied barefaced.

Tinubu's money was frozen. There is no limit to the amount that can be blocked by US(Example is Abacha dollars and Russia Millions)


Tinubu appealed the Freeze.
There was an out-of-court settlement. A prosecutor can not decide to freeze a certain amount and give the suspect the rest.


Do you mean that Russian frozen accounts will be released back to Russsians after 500k has been taken?

What is the price to investigate a case that can net USA 1.8 million dollars.





Why are you lying ?
Your ignorance is centred on the fact that you don't know that difference between freezing accounts and forfeiture.

I won't teach you.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 8:57pm On Apr 10, 2023
Emmynator:

It's simple really, there were charges against Tinubu, which is what the documents highlights, if Tinubu was found guilty of those charges he would have been indicted and convicted. Instead it led to forfeiture of 460k and the rest of the seized finds were returned to him. This is what Uber facts reported which is factual.
So while the question "why did Tinubu forfeit 460k?" is valid. The question "why did US return the rest?" is equally valid.
In the end, Tinubu wasn't convicted.
1. Tinubu was in Nigeria then and refused to appear for questioning.

2. The prosecutor opted for forfeiture after considering the legal cost of pushing for a full investigation. This is usually the case for drug crimes when the perpetrators are not easily reachable.

3. The forfeiture law in the US has a max limit of 500k. So even though the entire account was seized only less than 500k can be forfeited.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 1:34pm On Apr 09, 2023
A001:
Generally, Nigerian politicians, including Obi, play the religious card. Of what use is religion if not used as a political tool, which is its primary purpose?

What is religion actually useful for?

Religion and politics are 5 and 6 in Nigerian politics.
There is a slight difference between politicising religion and playing the religious card as a basis for campaign.

Political campaign is about using your opponent's weakness to gain an advantage. Peter Obi and Atiku used the muslim-muslim same faith ticket of the APC to campaign against them. That is politicising religion, it's different from using religion as a basis for getting votes. But having a muslim and christian vice respectively meant they were not against the religion but only used the same faith ticket of the APC to dissuade people from voting APC. Many APC members left the party because of the same faith issue.

APC themselves also used politicised religion with hope of winning a particular region dominated by Muslims. They didn't base their campaign on establishing Islamic dominance.

That said, the claim that parties played the religious card came mainly from their opposition. Especially APC knowing that their same faith ticket will create tension in many parts of the country, decided to use religion as a weapon against PO by making it sound like he was campaigning in a religious war. That's how low and wicked APC can get. They are willing to tear the nation apart with their propaganda as long as it destroys Peter Obi.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 1:20pm On Apr 09, 2023
monerozi5590:



So you are still here? grin grin grin
Yes bro grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 12:44pm On Apr 09, 2023
monerozi5590:
Everyone knows Obi is the social media president grin grin grin grin.

Tinubu can never be my president and stolen mandate bla bla.

Lemme watch and see what they will do on May 29.
Below are the pertinent issues not the frivolities you are spewing. Tinubu has less than 5days to respond. You people should stop playing...

Dey play angry

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Drone17: 8:16pm On Apr 08, 2023
Roland17:


Carry your fake new dey go angry
As this place dry na, I say make I post fake news.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Drone17: 3:14pm On Apr 08, 2023
Patrick Vieira wants to join Tottenham Hotspur as their new manager.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 1:44pm On Apr 08, 2023
Emaprince:
If Tinubu removes it without any effective plan to curb the negative effect, then he should be roasted and cooked.

If Obi won and same thing happens, I'm sure una go roast am as well.

Removing subsidy is not the issue, it's what to do with the money available.

Knowing how prices of goods and services will increase, I think any government that wants to remove subsidy should increase minimum wage by at least 50%
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 1:42pm On Apr 08, 2023
monerozi5590:



Work many for Naija wei dem fit call you by 3am to attend to something asap.

All this thing is not everyday. Doctors d government hospital wei be sai three days dem never show work.

I believe you are referring to consultants. Not all doctors have reached the level of consultancy. Just to put things into perspective.
Politics / Re: Which States And Areas Was Obi Rigged Out? by Drone17: 12:53pm On Apr 08, 2023
garfield1:


Is it enough to change the overall result
That's why LP are in court. To know if those manipulations could have affected the overall result.

Why was INEC refusing to allow access to the results data?
Politics / Re: Which States And Areas Was Obi Rigged Out? by Drone17: 5:30pm On Apr 07, 2023
garfield1:


The courts have stated severally that inec guidelines is not a ground to nullify elections
I doubt this. Then what's the need of any guidelines?

What the law allows is for parallel transmission of results. However the guidelines must be followed. The results had to be uploaded real time.

If guidelines are not followed it means INEC is compromised.

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Politics / Re: Which States And Areas Was Obi Rigged Out? by Drone17: 5:25pm On Apr 07, 2023
Christistruth03:



Even when Inec Servers were having over 12 million hacking attacks
Was it not the same BVAS and server that handled the national assembly elections?

Dey play cool

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Politics / Re: Which States And Areas Was Obi Rigged Out? by Drone17: 5:22pm On Apr 07, 2023
garfield1:


Was it apc that rigged him in aks,bauchi and bayelsa?
How are you going to prove it in open court? Do you have unit by unit original results,l? Can you identify the riggers and how it was done? What were you expecting him to score in bauchi and kano
I'll like to know what do you have to say about the result sheets that were full of alterations and manipulations?
Politics / Re: Photos Of Lamidi Apapa, Labour Party New Chairman by Drone17: 5:45am On Apr 07, 2023
trutharena:
This is the chairman we know.

He will bring discipline to Labor party

Long love Lamidi!
We will remove the party in LP and he will be left with labour.

Fake APC news

Tell us when our Daddy Tinubu will be coming back to the country he ruined

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 5:01am On Apr 07, 2023
OasisX:
How Tinubu won presidential election – American ObserverJohnnie Carson says Bola Tinubu has three things that his opponents did not have going to the presidential election.

An American diplomat and a foreign observer in the 2023 general elections, Johnnie Carson, says three factors were responsible for the victory of the President-elect, Bola Tinubu.

Mr Carson, an Executive Officer of the United States Institute of Peace (USIP), spoke in Washington DC when the Minister of Information and Culture, Lai Mohammed, paid an official visit to the institute to engage on the concluded elections.

The diplomat said he co-led National Democratic Institute (NDI) and International Republican Institute (IRI), International Election Observation Mission to Nigeria during the elections.

According to him, Mr Tinubu, the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC) candidate, undoubtedly won the polls and will be sworn-in come May 29, except something happens dramatically with the court.

“Do you know why he won, he got the money, he had the best national organisation that worked for him and the ground game,’’ he said.

Mr Carson emphasised that for a candidate to win an election in Nigeria, like a lot of democracy in the globe, the three things, including substantial and significant financial resources were needed.

Others, according to him, are a national working organisation and a grassroots acceptance.

He said while Mr Tinubu had all the three criteria in his kitty during the polls, the other major contenders did not have all.

Speaking specifically on the Labour Party presidential candidate, Mr Carson said, “on the part of Mr Peter Obi, he did not have the ground game and a national organisation.


“Obi is, however, very popular, particularly among the young, educated, urban and sophisticated,’’ he said.

Mr Carson said the presidential election was one of the most competitive polls in Nigeria and in Africa.

He, however, observed that the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) needed to up its game.

“Nigeria deserves the very best electoral process. “To me, the problem is not with Tinubu and the other candidates,’’ he said.

Mr Carson hailed President Muhammadu Buhari for his commitment in delivering a free and fair election for Nigeria.

He said the president “is a man of outstanding integrity’’ and he demonstrated the attribute in the past elections.

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/592059-how-tinubu-won-presidential-election-american-observer.html



There's always a loop hole to take advantage of.
Politics / Re: Announcement To All Non Indigene Living In Ikorodu by Drone17: 2:45pm On Mar 17, 2023
BlakKluKluxKlan:


Hyenas will enslave your family.
😂😂😂
O furu ya ufu

Ewu mmee
Politics / Re: Announcement To All Non Indigene Living In Ikorodu by Drone17: 7:48am On Mar 17, 2023
BlakKluKluxKlan:


Worse than pigs.
Pigs will enslave you.

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Politics / Re: Announcement To All Non Indigene Living In Ikorodu by Drone17: 7:47am On Mar 17, 2023
Throwback:
Hahahahaha!

The real Lagosians are determined that Sanwo-Olu must return to continue his good work.

These are Ijebu people that GCRV wrote off as not worthy to question a Rhodes-Vivour.

Someone should find that boy a job, or betterstill, a toy to play with.

Lagos is to critical to the African economy to be toyed with by a boy without any management experience.
The real Lagosians should not be scared like rats that fell inside water.

Soldiers go flog Oba if he do anyhow.

The real Lagosian in this race is GRV
Politics / Re: GRV's Wife, Ify Reacts To MC Oluomo's Threat To Voters In Lagos by Drone17: 7:43am On Mar 17, 2023
blackpanda:
Madam go back to your state if lagos is too hot for u. Cry me a river grin
Her state is Lagos. Where's your state?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 5:37pm On Mar 16, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:




General notion ke? How many people did y0u interview? Abeg no dey carry beer parl0ur gossip enter dis thread
This thread is first of all about beer parlour gossip, that's why we have monikers.

Secondly, I actually did a sampling, which was a couple of years ago with my course mates. I may not have a verifiable source, but that's my view.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 3:53pm On Mar 16, 2023
Donjazet2:


The most interesting race on Saturday will be the Enugu race
Oh yes.

I hear Obidients are supporting the APGA candidate as against the LP. I heard Edeoga was a boy to Chimaroke.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 3:49pm On Mar 16, 2023
larride:


Soludo election is not on Saturday.
Off course. But the battle on Saturday is about who has the people power between him and Peter Obi. Who will the people listen to. This is taken note of his famous letter on why PO should join APGA if he hopes to be relevant.

Now LP is about to sweep through the state.

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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 3:47pm On Mar 16, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:





Source?
No source. That's the general notion.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Drone17: 1:21pm On Mar 16, 2023
liveLongNprospa:
Between seyi makinde and soludo, who has a chance of winning second term election? 🤔
Unless Soludo begs Peter Obi, he is going no where. It will be proven on Saturday

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