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Politics / Re: Customs Bans Rice Importation Again by Durinsday: 1:50pm On Mar 23, 2016
What % of our rice consumption passes through land borders vs sea?
Politics / Re: How Ocholi, Wife, And Son Died - FRSC by Durinsday: 9:33pm On Mar 06, 2016
Questions bordering safety:

1. Were they over-speeding? The level of damage to the car body suggests so.

2. Was everyone in the car strapped on with seat belts? This restrains the body from haphazard movements in the case of a somersault.

3. Did the tire really explode? If so, was it punctured and by what? Was it over-inflated and heated up due to high road temperatures and speeding? If so, did the tyre pressure sensor warn the driver? How did the FRSC come to the conclusion that it was a tyre exposion that made the car somersault?

May they rest in peace and may God grant their friends and relatives fortitude.

And may we all learn about the futility of this life's worries and drive safely

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Religion / Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Durinsday: 4:49pm On Mar 06, 2016
fairheven:


"and do not leave the other things undone"

Please explain

See Emphasis #1: Jesus was addressing the pharisees, not Christians! Pharisees were under the law of moses.
Religion / Re: To Tithe Or Not To Tithe: The Whole Truth From The Bible. by Durinsday: 4:13pm On Mar 06, 2016
Dee235:
Despite the so many scripture verses from the writer he forgot this verse about what Jesus said about Tithe.

Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Emphasis on: and not to leave the other undone.

Emphasis #1:
Woe unto you "SCRIBES AND PHARISEES"! We are not them, we are co-heirs with Christ

Emphasis 2:
...and have omitted weightier matters of "THE LAW". We are no longer under the law but justified by faith as Christ has died for us. If we were under the law, perhaps we should be observing burning of bulls as a sacrifice unto God, an eye for an eye etc.

Christ had not died and redeemed us by then. Do you think Nicodemus continued being a pharisee after meeting Christ, the king of glory? Did he continue taking tithes etc according to the law after meeting the light of the world? Those things did not matter anymore!

Christ has asked us to give whole heartedly and not out of compulsion.

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Properties / Re: Aluminium Vs Asbestos Roofing Sheets. by Durinsday: 8:56am On Mar 06, 2016
Heat reflection: aluminium is a metal, asbestos a ceramic. Al is better

Health implications: dust from asbestos have been proven to cause health problems iver the years, Al sheets do not pulverize: Al is better

Resistance to cracking: Naughty kids thriwing stones on your roof: Asbestos would crack, Aluminium wont: Al is better

Growth of flora and fauna: if you have trees around: Asbestos would support algae etc growing as it is porous and can store nutrients. Aluminium sheets are not porous. Al is better

Weight on structure: Asbestos is probably four times or more denser than aluminium and so represents more weight to your building: Al is better

Recyclability: aluminium is 100% recycleable, asbestos is not. Scrap value of aluminium is high. Al is better

Ease of forming, handling and assembly: dropping a batch of asbestos during building, you would probably lose them all, but aluminium can drop and not damage and as well can be formed into various roof patterns ( sinusoidal corrugation or roll formed). Al is better

Aesthetics: Both are beautiful after assembly. However, aluminium sheets can come in various color coated forms to suit the building wall colors. Asbestos as far as I have seen is black/gray.

Cost: Not sure of Asbestos but Aluminium is relatively more expensive than galvanized Iron. However, long life span, repairability, recyclability should reduce the total cost of ownership of aluminium projected over the years. Solid Aluminium coated sheets from reputable companies like First Aluminium have the coating life up to 15 years before fading.

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Politics / Re: President Buhari Vindicates Barcanista By Abandoning N5k/month Social Benefit by Durinsday: 4:02pm On Feb 28, 2016
swtdrms:
First of all Oga barca, where do u belong sef cuz i no understand u again oooo. Support Buhari yday, attack him today.

And ur earlier assertion finally came to past, its not peculiar to Buhari and APC to make a promise and after elaborate deliberation and careful analysis you discover its not attainable, do you foolishly go ahead and keep that promise cuz you don't want to be criticized or you face the reality and declare that its no more attainable. There's nothing wrong with that.

I can't say much about other people, but I as a person, that's what i voted for in Buhari, sincerity and straightforwardness. Facing the reality instead of telling lies, looking for cover ups and giving excuses which is known with PDP.

As earlier stated, its not peculiar to the APC and Buhari, its always part of us. To make projections and plan based on that projection and later suspend/modify or totally do away with such plan are all part of every Organisation and Establishments.

Thank God he didn't deny that such promise was made, he wasn't trying to give cover ups and as well he wasn't giving excuses, he went straight to the point. So there's no problem with that at all.

We've analysed things, so many people criticized the viability of the policy and what resultant improvement it'll bring to the entire social economic system, my only support for the program was based only on the fact that it has been promised. If not for that 1.5trn will go a long way in fixing our dilapidated infrastructure, is it road, power, rail or even security etc.

You are correct, you had deeper thought, kudos to you, but still it doesn't in anyway deduct from the confidence reserve we have for this administration and Buhari himself

It doesnt take "elaborate deliberation and careful analysis in 2015 election period to understand that 5k per unemployed youth per month is crap. It was "an elaborately deliberated lie and carefully analyzed deceit"
Politics / Re: President Buhari Vindicates Barcanista By Abandoning N5k/month Social Benefit by Durinsday: 3:54pm On Feb 28, 2016
oduastates:
Ideas floated during a campaign does not necessarily mean policy.
It gives you a window into the campaign's priorities and gauge their engagement.
While some are realistic, others are not . A direct welfare program is destined to fail because we simply lack the mechanism and institutions to make them succeed. Starting from a database of who is unemployed to ghost recipients . Even Countries with advanced institutions have welfare policies that are plagued by fraud.
Also in a country with so many people with a sense of entitlement and very few taxpayers, you can expect civil disobedience if the government ever became incapable of paying the money after starting the program.

With the knowledge of this, why then did they go ahead to scam the electorate? This simple statement from you would have been the manifesto then.
Politics / Re: The Hypocrisy In Ben Bruce’s Common Sense Revolution by Durinsday: 7:56am On Feb 15, 2016
laidian:
The name Ben Bruce naturally generates a number of reactions in the minds of many Nigerians as a Fashionista, Celebrity and Entertainer. Nigerians are also familiar with household names created by the entertainment guru such as Silverbird’s Most Beautiful Girl in Nigeria, Cinema and a radio and television station which has helped enrich the broadcast industry in Nigeria.

Bruce’s success in the entertainment industry is indeed what many would call an American Dream come true, and is a wakeup call to the Nigerian youth illustrating that from nothing, one can go on to build empires.

Therefore, it was with much gladness that I welcomed his entry into politics when in 2012; he sought the ticket of the Peoples Democratic Party to become its guber candidate. While I knew that as the rookie that he was, he would have to contend with the powers that be for the ticket and that odds would be heavily stacked against him, I still saw his entry into politics as another leap forward for Nigeria, as ‘Clean Men’ like Bruce could then bring about the much needed change in our politics and help change the mindset of a number of youths that it was a dirty game. Unfortunately for Bruce, he was disqualified owing to issues bordering on his membership of the party then, but for us it was a good start.

In 2015, opportunity reared its head again and Bruce ran for Senate, under the Peoples Democratic Party and won, beating or should I say rigging out mercilessly a former Governor of the State, Timipriye Sylva, who polled a meager number of votes.

No sooner had he become a senator, Nigerians began to witness a new Bruce, who started proselytizing “The Common Sense Revolution” where he has been touting ideas after ideas on what is wrong with the country and how we can fix them. Using media platforms, Bruce has sought to identify the troubles with the Nigerian nation whilst at the same time proffering solutions to these challenges.

Sharing good ideas within social media sensitizes the public on what we should have as a country.

The trouble with Bruce’s Common Sense Revolution is that one cannot discern whether it is a publicity drive or a genuine cause to salvage Nigeria. For example, many have asked where has Bruce being all these years? Was he asleep when his party the PDP raped Nigeria from 1999 to 2015? Particularly, when his kinsman in former President Goodluck Jonathan held sway and nearly ran the nation aground. Surprisingly, Bruce saw no evil and thus tucked his commons sense revolution in his boxer shorts.

Bruce had been in entertainment thenjust like you mentioned, now he is in politics.

I was miffed when Bruce went on twitter to announce that he was donating half of his wardrobe allowance to the people of Osun State, following the failure of the Osun State Government to pay salaries for some months. For all its worth, I as many Nigerians felt that such philanthropy was puerile and unbecoming for a man like Bruce. First of all, one felt that Bruce should have as a Senator worked across the aisle in the Senate to perhaps sponsor a bill that would have sought relief or bailout packages for states like Osun. Again, one wonders whether a paltry sum of N253, 300.00 per annum would have been enough for over 30,000 civil servants in Osun, while his home state of Bayelsa owed pensioners and workers too. Many therefore wondered why Ben Bruce wanted to begin his own charity abroad.

Bail-out is no solution for states and organizations that are unsustainable themselves. Those organisations have to trim the fat, stop unsustainable social programs and stimulate business to generate IGR

Perhaps, like the village rascal, who is not fretful about the notoriety of his image, Bruce has not let up from playing to the gallery time and time again. One time, the senator advocated on twitter that he was wondering why Nigeria with 36 states had to have 36 ministers, whereas the United States of America with 50 states had 18 or thereabout ministers. I quickly retorted that the same United States had two senators per state and asked whether he was willing to give up his seat in order to make his common sense practical! Dear readers, Senator Bruce never responded and as at this point in time he still has his seat in the senate!

He does not play to the gallery, he owns the gallery. ( a la Silverbird Galleria). 36 ministers from 36 states is wasteful, especially since they are appointed! However, senatorial zoning is partly based on representation of population to make laws for them( not execute).

From his tweets urging Fashola not to use generator, to his referral to a minister in Buhari’s cabinet as a criminal unto his silence while the Senate in its profligacy wants to purchase cars amounting to N4.5bn, Senator Bruce has shown that hypocrisy is now becoming his favourite past time.

Urging Fashola not to make use of generator was unrealistic, i grant you that.


The trouble in his common sense revolution is that Bruce sounds like a socialist while he is a capitalist, a liberal while he is a pseudo liberal and a progressive whereas he is at heart pro establishment.

Asking people to support made in Nigeria to improve the Naira does not soind socialist to me. He mixes socialism and capitalism with common sense. Want to see failed socialism? Go to "The State of Osun", which is in quite a sorry state at the moment

While I do not frown at his being vocal, I would only wish that Senator Bruce would channel his new found love for activism unto good bills, motions and resolutions on the floor of the senate, guided by truth and patriotism.
I agree he has to do more on the floor of the house. Perhaps he is working on a coalition in the house,strong enough to push his advocacy when it does come up. Perhaps we need to give him more time, just like we are giving our president to win Boko Haram( on knock-out not on technical grounds), "feed the 5000", feed the children with real food ( not Nasco biscuit), etc to the power etc.

This way, he would not only make a good case for himself but also for millions of professionals considering politics as a means of service.

www.leadership.ng/blogposts/501316/hypocrisy-ben-bruces-common-sense-revolution
Politics / Re: Buhari Returns To Nigeria,to Embark On Three-nation Tour Of Egypt, Saudi Arabia by Durinsday: 10:25pm On Feb 10, 2016
Could our president please stop globe trotting and face things like suicide bombing of our IDPs?
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 12:36am On Feb 08, 2016
Allwility:
Malawian and Durinsday...Oh puleaseee!!
Ajaokuta Steel Complex has been sited at its present location. Deal with it. After all Kaduna refinery is at Kaduna and there's not even a producing oil well for miles around!!

@Cooljade I'm following you on Facebook. The promise of at least 10 000 direct and indirect jobs would really mean a lot to the youths. Let's revive the steel complex and place a 1000% import duty on steel.

When are we matching to Aso Rock. I'm hungry for a walk.


@Allwility: thanks. Was having a good laugh off the uninformed lad and am pretty sorry its almost derailing this wonderful thread.

All in all, we need more hands on deck to revive the plant. I think it would better our country.

Kudos to Cooljade. Impressive work done so far.
Politics / Re: How Buhari's ADC Was Selected by Durinsday: 5:35pm On Feb 06, 2016
Yrp
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 4:18pm On Feb 06, 2016
Malawian:

the design and construction of that plant is a civil engineering job. cappish.
next thing now, you will say that a doctor is responsible for desgning and building a hospital because he is "in the know".
why do you think civil engineers take courses in practically all field of human endeavour?

Try to understand the basics.

Metallurgical plant design is primarily designing the process from equations ( that i have earlier mentioned) before putting in geometry.

Please my dear civil engineer, could you please answer the following basic process plant design questions to make 1 ton of pig Iron:

1. How many moles ( or kgs if you like) each of dolomite, coke, natural gas, Iron ore ( hematite at 64% value) would make 1 ton of liquid pig Iron held at a carbon content of ~ 4% in a blast furnace?

2. At what temperature would you hold the furnace and for how long would it take to make 1 ton of liquid pig iron.

3. Which refractory would you use to line the furnace for optimal furnace life? CaO, Al2O3, SiO2? Which flux would you choose per refractory?

4. How many tons of water would cool the furnace shell at process temperatures without cracking?

5.what Fe:C ratio would you use to improve productivity of 1 ton of pig Iron in less time?

6. What furnace size, shape and geometery of tuyeres would improve your tapping practice for 1 ton of pig iron.

When we finish all these design calculations, we draw the plant and call the civil engineers to come and cast the foundation of the blast furnace according to our specifications and we supervise the assembly ok?

You seem to be a green horn in engineering too.

Process design is calculations from mathematics and chemical/physical equations and NOT construction.

Civil engineering design is different from plant/process design. In constructing the plant, a civil engineer/structural engineer only starts designing structural frames to assemble the plant. Would this H or I beam have enough tensile strenght? Bending moments of any beams, columns or trusses etc for the construction. Compressive strenght of cast structures etc. They dont know how to design a metallurgical process plant ok?

I think you need mentorship from an experienced senior in your engineering study. You do not even seem to know what design is and how the various arms of engineering collaborate.
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 1:25pm On Feb 06, 2016
Malawian:

bros, i cant argue with you technically in your field, just as i can drop a few civil engineering lingo, and you rush to google.

the location of the steel plant is neither within our fields, those in the know advised it be built in anambra state, the FG decided in their wise man wisdom to take it to kogi state. that is what we are arguing here and not molar mass or specific density. grin grin

meanwhile, what do know as Hardy Cross Process?
dont google it cheesy cheesy

A metallurgical Engineer designs metallurgical plants and decides where to locate them based on everything I have been telling you awhile.

They are your "those in the know" and I am one of them.
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 11:13am On Feb 06, 2016
grandstar:


You no won hear word! The Chinese are dumping steel. Nationlistic zeal trumps economic pragmatism

The chinese are making cheap, mostly poor quality steel. Some chinese companies are making a few good grades.

Where are they dumping it? Is Nigeria not one of them? We can define our national steel demand in profiles, import billets from abroad and use our rolling mills first to meet that national demand. Then restrict the importation of finished steel profiles by hiking the import duties on them. That would provide at least 10,000 direct and indirect jobs. Thats the beauty of backwards integration. We would be making money and improving the economy. This is what was happening in 2004 -2008 except for the hike in import duties.

That way we cut off the chinese dumping while we raise money to build the primary units.

China is dumping cheap steel yet US, Canada, Britain, Germany, France, Japan, Argentina, Italy, Brazil, Romania, Ukraine, Russia, Korea are still producing steel. Have you thought of that? What those countries did is akin to what I am proposing, they scaled their production, and made policies to safe-guard existing plants.

We Nigerians need to be thinking and working like them too. We dont just sit back and cry.

Have you thought about us exporting to Ghana and west Africa just like Innoson is sending in a few cars to Ghana.

Its not national zeal, its rational thinking with a sprinkling of economic pragmatism.
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 10:57am On Feb 06, 2016
Malawian:

you are very funny. do you think you can cower me with technical sounds and razzmattaz?
i studied civil engineering myself, and i practiced for a while in Kaduna.
so calm down and communicate, dont start any patrick obiaboghom impersonation.
thanks.

I am an experienced Metallurgist and Materials Engineer. I make Iron and Steel and other metals,alloys and engineering materials for a living. I am not trying to cower you. I am teaching you. Try to listen and you may learn a few.
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 10:48am On Feb 06, 2016
egbojay:
Dat blast furnance Russia designed is an experimental model which was first mounted in no place but Nigeria. Pls author I would also like u to research which Professor gave critics on it. One hidden truth we d industrial chemist know about d blast furnance is dat it failed on its capacity to operate effective under instrumental design, analysis and heat retention. No govt can revive dat furnance. Instead a new model must be built one which has been operated bfor. Reference to dat d Japanese proposed bfor Russian stole into d whole white elephant project. In all it is good we start reviewing issues of industrialization. Especially uncaculated decisions

Egbojay, the BF is a very old technology. It is not any experimental model oo. I have been there and studied it. There is nothing rocket science in a blast furnace.

Am not sure you have all the information. We can revive that BF if we put the right people there and fund it.
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 10:40am On Feb 06, 2016
mickey45:


tis not so much the Esau-ss per se....
I will only blame them for their short-sightedness and narrow-mindedness, that project was perfectly designed but failed from the word go.....
Why? Location! Location!! Location!!!
Same reason GEJ ordered LADOL and Samsung Heavy Industries to move project base down to Bayelsa.


The only thing in Itakpe is the ore itself.
A single rail moving ores down to the Furnace is a lot less dollar-draining than who-knows-how-many rail cans and ship containers moving other daily consumables (Coal, Limestone and Dolomite, and even Gas) from the ports and other centres up north.
Yar Adua (wanting to start from the logistics issues) awarded the contract to dredge The Niger's dredging while Deziani was trying to push the Nigerian Gas master-plan which had that very location as a priority. We all know what became of both projects.

While the blast furnace and supporting infrastructure hadn't been completed, the then government wanted to boast with the product ("full of personal vanity, with little sense of veracity"-Lugard) jumped (of course from bad advisers, IMF and co.) the stages and initiated sister mills in the three geopolitical zones (Osogbo, Delta and Kaduna).
The mills were on the design meant to receive feed-stock from the Blast Furnace.
On completing the mills, it was suggested (more like lobbied) that billets be imported to feed them whilst the blast furnace is on construction (Dangote and friends made a kill from here).
How do you then convince a stark illiterate (as the most of the leaders then were) of the need for a foundation, when he can already see a beautiful house standing? if not an illiterate (even if he can read and write), who ever agrees to pay for the building of a house, hoping to dig foundations later?
Had the blast furnace even been up, blooms and slabs will have have to be re-railed to the country's nerve-centers (Kaduna, Delta and Ibadan), increasing the OPEX.

Then came devaluation in the nation's currency and billet importation was no longer sustainable as the finished costs became almost at par with imported rods and steel sections/profiles.
So the there was no longer motivation and money to build the furnace any longer and when economics no longer favoured it, the mills also died their economically-natural deaths.

When the Indians came, Nigeria wasn't giving them any dime to invest with (as is the case with most of the Nation's JVs), getting a mill that size up will take a long time and money, so it'll take considerable time for them to reach profitability.
Whereas they have a new Technology (they're actually one of the bests at it) with which they could reduce the ores (albeit in fewer quantities) directly into almost pure Iron which can then be used for high quality steels without the expensive and almighty BF.

Moreover, Coal, Gas and thus energy are a lot closer to Delta steel than to Itakpe (the nearby seaport has served both for materials import and product outflow), hence their stripping Itakpe to develop and expand business in Delta steel instead of waiting for the govt. to dredge the Niger, complete the gas pipelines, and help complete the blast furnace which will almost never happen (ask the oil companies).
Then the next head of states may cancel the agreement anytime, despite their invested capital.
the shorter the time to profitability is, the better for the business.
I do not aim to rationalise their actions but to further point attention towards the very roots of the tree whose fruits we're all sad about.
BPE sold oshogbo steel mill (or rather what was left of it) to Dangote at a pittance some years ago and while the populace were salivating in the wait for new jobs, I hear he now parks his cement trailers there en-route to the north.

so blame your "leaders for always putting the cat before the horse) things wouldn't have been this bad if that man (Shagari/Gowon I think) hadn't commanded that the plant (against all conventional plant design wisdom) be sited in Kogi despite all explanations by experts in the project to the contrary. Hence my saying the project failed from its onset.

As for the "conpiracists", they knew what they were doing when they handed the nation over to a people who were the least enlightened at the time.
The same mentality birthed GMB's Kaduna Refinery and it same nepotism keeps holding the nation down ever since (e.g the latest PRESSID brouhaha).

embarassed embarassed embarassed

Not quite sure what you mean by the indians having better technology that would make the iron ore purer thereby by-passing the BF!

They can improve the beneficiation process to get a few more percentages of iron ore value from the ore but they would pass it through the blast furnace there unless they want to build an electric arc furnace ( which uses steel scrap and Direct Reduced Iron) as feed - technology of delta steel. They would also need to build DRI plant too.

If not the froth flotation process from itakpe could only be improved to send to ajaokuta.

Lets hope they are not being deceitful.
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 10:25am On Feb 06, 2016
Malawian:

you are more learned than those that did the feasibility study abi?
stop being emotional for once.



iron ore exists all over the nation including the region between awka and onitsha. if you can ship the bolded into kogi, you can as well ship the iron ore from itakpe into awka/onitsha.


I speak as one who is very knowledgeable in Metallurgical Plant Design, who had worked in Ajaokuta Steel Company, and in other steel plants globally and especially one who knows about the feasibility study for the plant and it operations.

Awka/Onitsha is a poor choice if you consider the stoichometric equation of Iron and steel making and its mass and energy balances.

As an elementary example, Consider that
1. The density of Iron Ore (hematite) is over 5 times that of coal in Enugu, and 6 times more than lime in Mfamozing, and twice that of dolomite.

2. Iron is the main objective we want to extract, others are ancilliary reactants

3. The g/mol ratio of Iron in the Red-ox reactions for making Iron and steel is very high.

4. Itakpe has the highest deposits of Iron Ore in Nigeria

These are just the few basic technical justifications.

I do not know where you got your feasibility info from but I say your deposition is incorrect based on the few above points and also the fact that I studied the feasibility report of ajaokuta steel.

Its not emotion, its fact!
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 10:00am On Feb 06, 2016
grandstar:
At the time Ajaokuta was built, it was reported to have the productivity of a 1920's plant. Its a very uncompetitive plant.

Now in world awash with stupendously cheap steel from China where they set up steel mills like we set up pure water factories, it will be an act of economic suicide to venture into steel production.

Any steel produced here will be way above the world market price leaving the local end users at a competitive disadvantage.

Its a blessing in disguise that the mill is dead. They should dynamite the place, and ring it for miles with landmines.

I beg to differ on your report of productivity of 1920! Please who wrote that report?

Which part of the steel plant has the productivity of 1920? Is it the 1.

Blast furnace (BF) which is almost completed and never produced 1 gram of Pig Iron? The waste slag from this plant would be used for filling roads and making cement, Dangote's Obajana would just be buying waste slag from Ajaokuta steel as raw material.

2. Or the steel making shop (SMS) capacity ~ 1.2Million Tons of liquid steel /year, which is also almost completed and has not produced 1gram is liquid steel? steel slag here would supply cement and construction firms with raw input.

These 2 primary units are at about 90% completion or more, but was left by the Russians due to our government's laxity.

Or is it the coking plant ( that makes coke as primary product and coal gas, coal tar, ammoniacal liquor, bitumen as by-products),

Or lime stone plant ( that makes lime, Carbon dioxide )

Or sintering plant,

Or Air Separation plant ( that makes major industrial gases Oxygen, Nitrogen, Carbon Dioxide, Argon etc),

Or Rubberizing plant that makes all the conveyor belts, and everything rubber there),

Or Foundries that would make all steel cast parts for the plant whole nation like engine blocks, valves etc

Or is it now the Rolling Mills that was the functioning part buying billets from abroad because the SMS was not yet casting liquid steel? The rolling mills were making wire rods& binding wires 5.5mm to 12mm diameter(wire rod mill~ 200,000 Tons/yr), Light Section Mills( LSM) ~ 400,000Tons/yr producing reinforced iron rods up to 25mm, angle bars, channels, I-beams, profiles etc all light gauge., Medium Section and Structural Mills (MSSM) ~ 400,000 tons/year capacity producing heavy gauge and standard gauge rail lines ( for all our railway dreams), heavy gauge I-beams, channels, H-Beams, equal and unequal angle bars, flat bars etc (for offshore rig construction, sky scrappers), the Billet Mill that makes billets from blooms for export as industrial secondary input.

Only the LSM and WRM were working by buying billets from Ukraine and rolling out tons of reinforcement rods between 2004- around 2008. They were making tons of money under the Indians too, who were also running their agenda.

These mills were producing well, so WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN BY PRODUCING LIKE 1920s?

Besides steel technology worldwide is still using 1900s basic technology. The best you can do is automation to innovate, but the steel beneficiation technology is same worldwide. Go and study it.

Do we even mention the thermal power plant/ turbo blower station ( TPP/TBS); steam plant delivering over 200MW to the national grid? In Ajaokuta people cooked with electric stoves because the power plant was supplying electricity for the plant 24/7. All that power generated by waste heat (dry steam)from just 2 rolling mills' pre-heating furnaces. If the blast furnace and steel making shop and other plants were working, they would generate enough steam to generate over 1500MW; steam by the way used to cool the plant walls!

About cost of steel in Europe versus Ajaokuta, can you compare where we have all our raw materials sitting in one country plus natural gas to improve the efficiencies of processes versus in europe that has already been hyper mined and need to bring in raw materials from abroad? Tata steel ( formerly British steel and corus) has almost closed out, only section working is railway plant because britain needs rail for maintaining her 20,000 miles of railtrack. Its expensive to make steel there because natural gas and electricity is not cheap there plus iron ore, dolomite, lime, coal is not cheap there too.

LET US GET AJAOKUTA BACK ON TRACK!
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 9:21am On Feb 06, 2016
Malawian:
Oga, pleaase start from the begining of the conspiracy.

The people who did the feasibility studies for the Steel plant advised the FB to site it in the region between Awka and Onitsha in Anambra state.

You have not told us how they latter moved it to Ajaokuta in the first place. Please start from the original conspiracy, lets move from there.

Thanks a lot.

Citing it between Awka and Onitsha is not technically the best decision bro. Ajaokuta is the best place based on nearness to all the production inputs for the process and prioritizing them.

To make steel you need
1. Iron Ore -top input( largest deposits are in Itakpe, Kogi- the Iron ore beneficiation plant is sited there),

2. limestone for the fluxing (mfamozing, Nkalagu etc deposits can ship it in), & dolomite fir fluxing

3.coal for makng coke (Enugu has largest deposits but has some sulphur and therefore would need blending with foreign sourced coal),

4. Tons of water: River Niger and Benue on the Kogi side has larger volumes based on the confluence in lokoja.

5. Rocks, sand etc for civil works ( not steel process) . Ajaokuta has more than enough rocks to blast through for civil works for free.

Onitsha/Awka would have been fine due to nearness to coal but nearness to iron ore, larger land mass, water, construction materials would have disqualified the area.
Science/Technology / Re: Ajaokuta Steel: Time To Break The Deadly Conspiracy Surrounding by Durinsday: 5:31pm On Feb 01, 2016
nevilbot:
The day I took my junior sis to ayingba for putme and we had to drive thru d complex to link ayingba road, I sincerely was weeping inside. For close to 30 mins we were still driving thru d massive abandoned complex which included every thing u could think of plus a hospital. Whoever design DAT plan had Naija good interest at heart but I think d case of Nigeria and state owned companies is just pathetic. That plant if functional will employ more Dan 50k youths and its bigger Dan even some towns in nigeria

You did not drive through the plant my dear, you were just driving outside and around it. If you did drive inside the plant, you would park your car, tear your cloth and pour ashes on your head, wail and cry blood. The story of Ajaokuta is one reason this country is not sustainable.

If you worked there, you would probably not be able to go round inside the plant foe more than a year. It is so big that people only go around there in cars. That massive giant is just Ajaokuta steel phase 1. Phase 2 and 3 were not even started

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Politics / Re: PDP Lady Who Wished Buhari Dead During 2015 Campaign Dies| See Her Hate Posts by Durinsday: 12:53pm On Jan 26, 2016
People. I am yet to see where she wished President Buhari death.

Please circle from the post.
Politics / Re: Britain Toys With Woes Of Another Biafra War - Sun Newspaper by Durinsday: 10:39pm On Jan 24, 2016
lastpage:


Stop deluding yourself!

Simple economics shows that Nigeria woudl have developed the so-called Ibo Hydrocarbon, if it was that cheap and feasible to do so.! grin grin grin

Ibos would have sought to do same, afterall, Lagos is developing its own without waiting for the Federal Govt to do so for it!

These "whining mentality" from Ibos is getting annoying and irrelevant -
They did not allow us to go,
They did not develop our hydrocarbon for us,
They did not feed us during the war
They did not allow us to come back for our money in the bank
They did not allow us to defeat them
They did nit support us to fight our enemies
Britain did not give us weapons to fight
!

Wetin? Na only una, abi?

Shut-da-phuckUp and act like men instead of always pointing fingers at others
The scrap of Hydrocarbon in the South East is not different from the scraps in the North, not economically viable for production. Period.



NB: you still came up with "excuses" instead of facts and figures! See ya life" wink tongue tongue



Lastpage!

Hello,
Thanks. But do go study the geology of Nigeria. If you have access to Nigeria oil data, which it seems you dont, you would be better informed. Hints; Imo river basin, ohaji-egbema-oguta, Njaba basin, Nekede explorations; this is just Imo state. In Abia and Anambra; need I say more? Try studying without bias, if you even study, it makes for a sound mind
Religion / Re: Help Thank God by Durinsday: 12:23pm On Jan 02, 2016
Congrats Baba Femo & Happy New Year. Enough to thank God for.. From QX4

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Business / Re: Please Help With Zenith Internet Banking by Durinsday: 11:32am On Jan 02, 2016
Also no space is required between them.

If you do so many unsuccessful trials, ZenithBank may block your card due to security concerns.
Business / Re: Please Help With Zenith Internet Banking by Durinsday: 11:31am On Jan 02, 2016
Use your 4 digit online pin+ 6 digit token code. You need to have a 4 digit pin for online purchases and bank transfers created. This is separate from ur 4 digit ATM pin.

If you already have the 4 digit code e.g 1234, then press the token to get a 6 digit pin e.g 567890.

Then enter as follows: 1234567890
Politics / Re: Britain Toys With Woes Of Another Biafra War - Sun Newspaper by Durinsday: 9:09pm On Nov 08, 2015
[quote author=lastpage post=39801565]

Tell us the contribution of the "oil" from the five Ibo states, to Nigeria's Crude export ... in terms of percentages!

Since you are a "man of FACTS", you will have to back-up your claim with facts.
undecided undecided undecided

Waiting.

The contribution is low. You know why? Because they would have been empowered if their hydrocarbon reserves were developed. But then that leaves them with the largest untapped hydrocarbon reserves in the onshore.

And also the cheapest to exploit since they are all land-based.

You need to go learn your Nigerian Geography.
Events / Re: White People Dress As Blacks And Carry Nigerian Flag For Halloween (Pic) by Durinsday: 10:51pm On Oct 30, 2015
That flag was photoshopped
Politics / Re: DSS Foils Plot To Bomb Ikoyi Estate, Arrests 45 Boko Haram Suspects In Lagos by Durinsday: 8:26pm On Oct 24, 2015
I am wondering why the DSS is seemigly so effective in Lagos. They also provided names with some first names being last names of others? Possible but suspect. Why are they not this effective up North where the trouble is?

Is this not a ploy to distract the public from raising dust over the incessant suicide bombings up north in recent weeks?
Culture / Re: Enugu Community Where Green Snakes Are Kings, Queens, Battle Men Of God by Durinsday: 12:09pm On Oct 21, 2015
People have failed to realize the protection of animal species for the next century is assured by these traditions.

We keep killing and eating anything that moves. Many of our animals and trees are already extinct by our actions and inactions.
Autos / Re: Very Hot BMW Deals At Very Low Prices,pay 40% And Balance Up At Delivery + Pics by Durinsday: 4:21am On Oct 21, 2015
Nice cars you have here. Concise description too. Keep it up
Politics / Re: Akure Markets Shut As Deji, Eze Ndigbo Quarrel- The Nation by Durinsday: 2:11pm On Oct 15, 2015
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