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Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 10:30am On Apr 02, 2016
cloudgoddess:

You are the one arguing for a failed theory.
Failed... according to whom?

If evolution is a failed theory then you need to quickly contact the thousands of evolutionary biology labs across the developed world (New Zealand and Japan have been doing some great research in the field lately), the pharmaceutical companies that are using their understanding of evolution to creat new medicines, the evolutionary biology departments at Harvard, Cambridge, Duke (ad infinitum for virtually every reputable university that exists), every natural science museum with an evolution exhibit, all the publishers of peer-reviewed evolutionary research journals and the researchers that publish to them, etc., etc.

If you are serious, contact them now and alert them that what they're studying is actually bunk and you have the answers instead.

This is not evidence. Microbial fossils are just that, they do not show that organisms evolved from simpler precursors.
Sigh. If there is sufficient evidence that at one very ancient point in earth's history, the ONLY living things in existence were microbes, then at what point following that history, and by what means, could multicellular organisms have originated? I probably shouldn't get my hopes up here. You're going to hit me with, "ID doesn't tell us the mechanisms but I still know its right and evolution is wrong", correct?

There is no known natural process by which one adds genetic information to a species genetic code.
Um... what? That is one of the most common types of mutations that happen.

"Gene duplication occurs when an error in DNA replication leads to the duplication of a region of DNA containing a (generally functional) gene. [http://www.bio-medicine.org/biology-definition/...]"

This kind of comment is precisely what makes it clear that you have no idea about the subject you are trying to refute. You don't know how DNA works, you don't know what genetic inheritence even entails, you likely don't know the basic premises behind evolution (I would not be surprised at all if you think it claims that humans came from monkeys, and that non-monophyletic species like birds and insects can give birth to one another).

You don't know about mutations -- what they actually are or the different ways they can happen (and that they are NOT all bad -- that is only what biology illiterate people think because the public is so used to hearing the word "mutation" solely used in a pathological context).

And this explains perfectly why you continue to hold such unsupported and superstitious notions. It's because you're not actually aware of what the alternative contains. You are ignorant. And I genuinely mean this in the least intentionally insulting way possible.

It is completely understandable why someone with near zero understanding of a topic, yet YEARS of powerful religious indoctrination, would fight to support the only thing they do have experience with, as well as a great amount of emotional investment in.

Empty talk bereft of evidence.


Again, basic biological principles here.

Again, empty talk without evidence.
No, just more concepts that you do not understand because you have been robbed of rudimentary biology education as a 21st century adult human being, and have instead been indoctrinated with slightly modified bronze-age superstition which is unfortunately still ruling your worldview (and in addition, strongly discouraging you from seeking out said education).

I asked you a question about the geologic column and you have failed to answer it, and seem to have avoided it like a plague.
Your idea of evolution depts and labs is entirely crap, we are still waiting for them to get a rat out of a plant then we can take them serious or isn't that what macro-evolution says, or at least let them get life out of an inanimate object. Until then whatever medicine they produce is solely based on micro-evolution which no one has a problem with.
I still have one more question to add: The termite and the microbe in its gut which helps it digest wood which evolved first owing to the fact that both can't live without the other?
And your last image there is a clear depiction of micro-evolution except maybe for the terms used to classify them, you have stars and dots in the gene pool and that's all there is. There is no case where you start getting minus or plus in the gene pool because its not there originally no one is arguing the concept of micro evolution.
If the gene for feathers isn't in the gene pool there's no way you are getting a feathered animal and there's no way a dinosaur could have become a bird no matter what amount of time you attach to it, so the guy was right I just don't understand why you keep calling other people ignorant whilst contradicting yourself
please answer my questions thanx
Religion / Re: What Does It Mean When It Says 'The Fool Says In His Heart There Is No God'? by ElCount: 8:18pm On Apr 01, 2016
I think you will find that the statement from the bible is straight forward and does not need any explanation.
Such people need our prayers though its not our place to belittle them

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Politics / Re: $800m ‘not Enough For Northeast’ Shettima by ElCount: 2:27pm On Apr 01, 2016
Chai! Looting mode activated "Abacha did not steal"...Buhari
Religion / Re: The Major Reason Why I Became An Atheist (picture ) by ElCount: 11:11am On Apr 01, 2016
matrix199:


Coming from someone with a very low IQ, compared with evolutionists, I'll let it pass.
Low IQ really, I am guessing you are the one with the higher IQ, yet you believe some bullshit theory
well go ahead and tell the world how high ur IQ is, make their day don't let it pass, I beg of thee
Religion / Re: The Major Reason Why I Became An Atheist (picture ) by ElCount: 10:32am On Apr 01, 2016
matrix199:
The big bang theory for me!
I bet you don't know what the big bang theory says because that's the most illogical and unscientific theory ever known

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Religion / Re: The Major Reason Why I Became An Atheist (picture ) by ElCount: 10:06am On Apr 01, 2016
jamela:
Idris, The devil deceives you with that thought. God didn't create a devil. God created an Angel of Light, Everything God created he saw they were good. Lucifer chose to take the evil path, that wasn't God's decision. You too have a choice. Think about it.
Spot on. What these atheist dont understand is that there's no in-between, you are either with the light or with the darkness, with God or with the devil.
The devil knows this and he uses it to his advantage because all he has to do is take you away from God by any means possible, everything you do thats not in line with God is for him. And they tell you "I dont believe in God or the devil", well the devil does not need to convince you to follow him because as long as you are not with God you are already with him.
On that last day he will be there bringing up the charges for God to use in condemning you, because he is the accuser

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Religion / Re: The Major Reason Why I Became An Atheist (picture ) by ElCount: 9:54am On Apr 01, 2016
You became an atheist because you think by not believing in God everything just resets and that which you feared most will go away? You know, i dont like APC you think if I just believe that they don't exist that will make them to disappear, like can I just believe them away into non-existence? please tell me because i really dont like them
ojimbo:
This quote got me inspired to have a rethink of what I was earlier told
Politics / Re: BEDC Declares War On Edo People by ElCount: 9:00am On Apr 01, 2016
OP, one question did you vote change? If yes then enjoy your change in full and its nobody's business. If no then I sympathize with the Edo people and I ask why is this not being reported in any of the media houses?

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Politics / Re: By 12midnight Today, Nigeria At Risk Of Running Governance Without Budget by ElCount: 10:49pm On Mar 31, 2016
hopilo:
With the executive refusal to sign the budget draft passed by the NASS demanding for the breakdown details and the NASS not forwarding the details in anytime soon, Nigeria government will be grounded from 12 midnight today when the 2015 current budget year end.
The implication being that no government expenditure of any sort irrespective of who is involve. Such expenditure if carried out by anyone in all the three arms of government will be criminal and illegal and can lead to impeachment and imprisonment. Government officials will either use their personal money to pay for their flight back home and run other official dealings which can also be viewed as conflict of interest and against code of conduct. We are in a precarious situation now. Please let the Executive and NASS resolve this as soon as possible.
please bros abeg no vex, are you saying that general bubu will be unable to pay for his flight back unless broda obama perhaps offers him a helping hand?
Religion / Re: Scientists Who Set Out To Create Genome Are Astonished By The Complexity Of Life by ElCount: 9:54pm On Mar 31, 2016
Amberon11:
Godwin
Na God win finally and na Him go still dey win, if only the evolutionists will learn, but I expect more scientist to dedicate their life to this and in the end find out they know absolutely nothing in their old age
Politics / Re: Water Scarcity; See How Ibadan Residents Hustle To Get Water. Photos by ElCount: 9:45pm On Mar 31, 2016
Unfortunately general bubu is taking tutorials on nuclear energy hopefully one of them media houses will interview him there and offer to play the video for him... Oh! Sorry he won't watch it
Politics / Re: Faces Of The Brave Men That Will Testify Against Kanu. by ElCount: 9:39pm On Mar 31, 2016
Meanwhile somewhere in West Africa

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Politics / Re: Buhari Directs Activation Of BASA With Israel by ElCount: 9:25pm On Mar 31, 2016
mynd1:
God bless mr president

God bless Nigeria.

*Thunder fire enemies of our dear nation progress*
A president who is tribalistic and filled with hate is an enemy of the progress of the nation

A president who divided the nation into 95% and 5% is an enemy of the progress of the nation

A president who ignores the killing of the citizens of the nation in agatu because its being perpetuated by his kinsmen is an enemy of the progress of the nation

I could go on and on but I think these points are enough for you to know who the thunder will strike first
Religion / Re: Post Your 'Front Page-Worthy' TOPICS And LINKS Here by ElCount: 8:07pm On Mar 31, 2016
Lalasticala
Abeg make we tell them the truth, people have been deceived a lot on this matter
www.nairaland.com/3021568/evolution-theory-not-science-stupidity
Religion / Re: If You Can Defend This Then You are a real Christian!!!(photo) by ElCount: 6:38pm On Mar 31, 2016
LEAFLET:
Why did God stop the Tower of Babel from reaching Heaven but didn't stop spaceships from being launched into space? and if heaven is the sky as the Bible claims,then why don't we see heaven when we go to space?
He didn't stop us from going to space, so that we can behold yet more of His mightiness and grandeur especially given the fact that the intention was for knowledge other than personal glory like the tower of babel.
In the bible (Job 38) God asked Job "where he was when He laid the foundations of the earth, determined its dimensions and what supports its foundation..." Apparently, we are still waiting for the evolutionists to answer that and all other questions in that chapter. Even after going to space

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Religion / EVOLUTION THEORY IS NOT SCIENCE BUT STUPIDITY, HERE'S WHY--ELCOUNT by ElCount: 2:54pm On Mar 31, 2016
The whole evolution theory brouhaha is a big dud and has no place in science. It has no evidence whatsoever, it can neither be argued by logic nor can it be proved using the scientific method which has guided science since its inception, little wonder the theory has not contributed anything to the advancement of science (and please don’t tell me anything about micro-evolution because its observed and happens around us daily no one has any issue with that fact until you guys add the time factor and try to get a lion out of a plant). Its only proof being time “…yes after a billion years or more you will get your proof…” a famous statement among the evolutionist faithful.
They tell you “we have evidence in fossil, embryology, vestigial organs etc.”

What they wont tell you is that the embryology professor; Ernst Haeckel who started the whole embryology debacle in 1874 was convicted for fraud by his own university and later confessed that those drawings you see in those books are fake, but guess what, it’s still an evidence for evolution.
They tell you “vestigial organs is a proof for evolution”, well my friends Nicholas James Vujicic aka Pastor Nick is living proof that you can survive without both arms and legs, does that now mean that our arms and legs are vestigial organs? Or Pastor Nick is a living proof of evolution. The whole vestigial idea is just crazy because there are no vestigial organs and yes including your appendix do not be deceived.

Then the fossils, this is their favorite; I want to clearly state that finding a bone in the ground doesn’t mean anything other than the fact that the animal that owns the bone existed and died, and if I go around the world and I don’t see that animal I can conclude that the animal is extinct case closed.
Anyone telling you that they found a bone in the sand hence the bone belongs to your ancestor please you have the carte blanche to give that person a hard slap to the back of the head trust me on this that person will thank you later. All those farce about the geologic column is just meant for the amenable at heart in science, same applies to the carbon-14 dating.

What they term geologic column is artificially assembled to form the full column (even at that it’s still not complete) the parts they bring from nature is only a direct consequence of the great flood in the days of Noah whereby particles settle in layers and it happened rapidly not over billions of years. In simple terms take a handful of sand put it in a transparent container, fill it with water and shake vigorously and allow to settle and tada you have your very own geologic column. If you can fit in a dead animal or you used a bigger container in which perhaps the animal died while shaking it, then leave it for a little longer perhaps a couple of months/years (NOT billion/million/thousand) with some applied pressure on the layers then you can get your very own fossil. If you want more evidence that the flood in the days of Noah caused it see picture below of a petrified tree in a rock (you can also find pictures where the trees where upside down/slanting/ horizontal).

Please I urge you guys if you have a kid start teaching him/her the truth about this evil theory that’s been passed up as science, if you are a teacher/lecturer tell your students the truth it never happened scientist only hope it happened that way so they can avoid believing God. Its obvious the evolution theory is a dud and is anything but science, don’t believe in foolishness.
Romans 1:21-22-: “Yes they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship Him as God or even give Him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result their minds became dark and confused 22-claiming to be wise they instead became utter fools”
Little wonder you see folks who are professors and what have you trying to defend this foolishness called evolution theory. Its obvious there’s only one alternative to the theory and that’s the creationist view, hence the reason why evolution has not been dropped like every other scientifically failed theories.
Questions for the evolutionist
• How did space time and life begin?
• How did male and female of various species evolve?
• If evolution is true how do you tell right from wrong?
• If the geologic column is true how do you tell the age of the rocks (ie. How do you know for sure the rock layer is for example 70million years old)?
• The trilobite an index fossil as you claim, how is it an animal that’s still evolving at that stage ended up with one of the most sophisticated eye
• The termite and the microbe in its gut that helps it digest wood, which evolved first?
Be wise on the last day the devil will be there bringing up the facts with which God will use to condemn you. Because he is the accuser.
lalasticala

Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 8:34am On Mar 31, 2016
cloudgoddess:

Yes it is.
suit yourself but I hope u are not teaching someone that it is, because its a big fat lie.
Pls answer my previous question about the geologic column thanx
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 8:29am On Mar 31, 2016
cloudgoddess:


The fossil record tells us extremely valuable information about not only WHAT existed, but WHEN. See, the earth's crust was formed in a way such that older rocks are found in lower strata, and more recently formed rock is found in higher strata. This means that the lower we go, the older the rock we're coming in contact with, and thus, the older the fossils we find will be.

the earth's crust is not arranged according to age, go back to your geography, funny you call me ignorant and end up making this statement
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 7:56am On Mar 31, 2016
cloudgoddess:

You are exceedingly ignorant, and your ignorance is a huge insult to paleontologists across the globe.

Fossils are not bones, they are rock. Mineral that settled into the bones of dead organisms, and then hardened, preserving the shape of the original bone, which, since it is living tissue, would have perished long before the fossil was formed.

Listen to yourself so full of contradictions yet you term me ignorant, so because minerals settled into the bones of these animals they are no longer bones? You are typical evolutionist full of contradictions.
From what you said I believe you are talking about the geologic column. And I believe that it contains both rock and bones of dead animals which you call fossils, so my question is how do you tell the age of a rock from the geologic column
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 7:42am On Mar 31, 2016
cloudgoddess:


YES there is. See the graded fossil record and geological information on early earth - the vast majority of present day organisms, especially the more complex ones, WOULD NOT be able to survive in the environment in which life first arose. Only microbes could exist in such harsh environments, and as the fossil record shows us, ONLY microbial fossils are found in rock dated ~4 billion years old. This is exactly what we would expect to see if the common ancestor prediction were correct.

please fossil record is a load of crap, finding a bone in the sand tells you nothing more than that animal existed and died, it doesn't tell you any other thing. Recently they now find a skull and complete it themselves to deceive people.
Let me ask you, how do you know the age of rocks?
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 7:10am On Mar 31, 2016
Lilbrown007:
well killing out of the people moses bought out of egypt cause they disobeyed God well thats pretty devilish to me
just listen to yourself, you opened the bible and that's all the info you could get about God the part that seem to discredit Him, how it happened, why it happened, what truly happened you don't know and you think that's normal. You can say what you want or think what you want but on the last day the devil will be there to point an accusing finger at you and you will realize that you are on your own.
Keep waiting for someone to show you a soul b4 you believe; goodluck with that. But I think that's the point of it being a soul, it can't be seen with the physical eye
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 8:26pm On Mar 30, 2016
edan15:


I will judge all the gods, including Jehovah, Allah, Satan, Devil, Jesus, witches and wizard, etc. Just watch and see!!!
Perhaps you didn't know but in this matter there's only two sides to it: If you are not with God then you are definitely with the devil, there's no in between.
You are either with the Light or with the darkness. My advice to you is that you should choose wisely
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 8:08pm On Mar 30, 2016
Lilbrown007:
Yeah true living thing must die n that the reason we reproduce! n by the way wah do u think m thinking?? cause i kno when someone die thats the end! but the human brain simply cant accept this
people believe its the end because of the frightening thought that comes with it, well it isn't unless you are saying you have no soul
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 7:20pm On Mar 30, 2016
Lilbrown007:
Y dont u try puting a rice in a can n cover it up for some days n see what happens.......orgamism has been forming out of "reactions" since 0B.C
OMG! I hope you are not just implying what I think you are implying. So that is now an evidence of evolution? Bruuuuuuuuuh!
How low can this satanic theory drag the human reasoning?
Well if you are one of them all I can tell you is Jesus loves you and He is ready to accept you back if only you will return to Him.
No matter how long we live on this earth we are going to be dead for a longer period and we should be concerned about how and where we are going to spend it.
Charles darwin lived for 73 years but he has been dead for 134years and he is still dead and he is still going to be dead for a longer period of time. That's everyone's fate where we are going to spend the afterlife depends on what we do now. You guys think you will be hurting God or anyone by not serving Him, He already knew that things like this will happen.
Romans 1:21--"Yes they knew God, but they wouldn't worship Him as God or even give Him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result their minds became dark and confused 22--Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools"
Let's be wise in our choices for there's no excuse on judgment day
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 1:37pm On Mar 30, 2016
edan15:


All the true knowledge we have about our world and the universe came from science, therefore evolution theory and the big bang theory can't be wrong. Let science be true and all religion be false because religion is the author of confusion. Happy I now have my God in Domino Reverad. Check answers to all mysteries here: www.nairaland.com/2938907/doctrine-ufos
please what does the big bang theory say?
Politics / Re: State Of A Major Road Leading To Rivers State From Aba by ElCount: 9:11am On Mar 30, 2016
I think with a little sense folks will understand that almost all federal roads in the SE are in a very poor state and most times the state govt will hv no choice than to intervene. This is no different

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Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 8:01am On Mar 30, 2016
asalimpo:

The billion years is a scam. they know no one will be here to verify data that old, they just use that illusive mark to push forward their poo theories . In a billion years, they'll say it will happen in yet anoda billion years. story story ...
the only reason why people believe in evolution is because there's only one alternative to it and that is God created the world, He owns it and He makes the rules. If there were any other alternative, evolution would hv been dropped long time ago. They tell you they have evidence thru embryology, vestigial organs, geologic column, carbon dating... All those things are all lies because they ve been proven wrong long time ago but they won't drop it because they don't want to believe the alternative which is God and most especially they hv problem with the rules He set, they want to continue enjoying the pleasures of the flesh and live the way they like

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Politics / Re: Where Is Lai Mohammed our Honorable Minister of ...... by ElCount: 10:04am On Mar 29, 2016
tommykiwi:
Please where is our honourable minister of Information, Lai Mohammed have he been sacked or suspended? because is really been a while now I heard him speak both on Television,radio or even Newspaper. Ever since is last statement dat " The Economy was behond the control of the government", have not heard anytin concerning him again. Please did he travel out of the country or what? I just need an answer. because av missed some of is Lies!
Him get cough and catarrh
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 7:15am On Mar 29, 2016
asalimpo:
^^^
adaptation is now evolution!!!
huh!
cockroaches evolve against pesticide.
So, when stubborn pupils, become hardened to teachers caning , they've evolved ,i.e the dna has changed radically, a thick skin!!
that's what they say when an animal adapts they tell you over a billion years only then will probably a whale now start walking on land. Its hilarious how this people reason. The transformation of a dinosaur for example into a bird was never observed and there's no evidence it did but this guys believe it and pass it off as science (which is very much against the scientific method by the way) rather than religion
Religion / Re: If Evolution Was Untrue. by ElCount: 7:09am On Mar 29, 2016
cloudgoddess:


Again, of course the ancestor of a dog was never a plant. Species can't hop between lineages. If you actually understood evolution, you would not have made this comment. This image might be helpful in conceptualizing things for you.
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you really don't know your evolution theory that well. Here is a statement from Charles darwin from his book "the origin of species" "its a truly wonderful fact... That
all animals and all plants throughout all time and space
should be related to each other..." If the ancestor of a dog was not a plant then tell me which came first the dog or the plant because charly here says they all have one ancestor perhaps you can't even see that from your picture the pant is an ancestor of the dog.
so the question is how did space, time and life as we know it begin if there was no designer? Can you answer that for me?
Politics / Re: What Will PMB Pin Point As His Achievement In His 1year In Office by ElCount: 9:54pm On Mar 28, 2016
Empowering his fulani brothers in every way possible and putting them above the law hence they can kill anybody and nothing will happen. And yes even the fulani cows get to enjoy imported grass

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