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ronkebaby:

@Enugu

How did you know most people in pentescostal churches are not happily married?

But honestly speaking, I agree with your points. I think you are right. God cannot really lead one to a loveless marriage. I have found out over the years too that this holy ghost leading of a thing is a deceit afterall. Marriage is not just about tougue speaking and reading the bible, but about common interests and deep feelings! But then, why is this prophesy, holy ghost inclined relationships still rampant in the pentecostal settings? You know I have been wondering how such marriages always end up, that is why I am curious at how you arrived at your figures of 'a good percentage' of them not been happy in marriage. cheers!

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@ronkebaby,
I apologise for that statement; I went overbaord with my summations and for a good percentage of them, I'll come to that.

You see, I've been to pentecostal churches in Naija and here and one thing I've noticed (especially with the Naija-dominated churches in the UK) is that there is always pressure, overt and covert, on people who have reached the 'magic age -25- to get married.

For that reason, people who don't want to appear to be 'old maids'/'men that are hard of hearing' begin to hear and unhear. Sometimes, you see someone who like but instead of you to try and find out who she is not necessarily by dating, you begin to use a roundabout way to get close to her- marriage/the lord sayeth etc.

Ronkebaby, I could go on and on; there are so many examples and time would not permit. You see the Bible says that "the sons of this world are more shrew in their generation than the sons of light, "(LK. 16: and without misconstruing this verse, christians are generally not sincere in their dealings. They like to appear 'holy' and as a result do not reveal what is really on their minds.

Let me tell you a story. There was once a young christian who had serious problems at home. She thought that this brother would be the answer to her problems and even though she did not love him, she went ahead' Afterall, he who findeth a wife etc etc. He turned out to be a 'demon in suit', a wife-batterer and a pretender, who knew all the scriptures and could charm all the men/women of God with his spiritual knowledge.

When she eventually broke free of the cycle of abuse, 'well-meaning' christians threatened her with hell-fire if she didn't go back because 'God hates divorce'. Of course, the bro himself had promised her an acid bath amongst other horrific things if she left. When she asked those 'well-meaning ' christians were they where when she was in her hell-fire, they couldn't give her an answer. They were more concerned with how it would look if a christian divorced

Sure, you would blame the sister, afterall nobody sent her but I tell you, that's what comes about in some, not all, pentecostal churches with all the pressure on so-called single sisters. You begin to see marriage as the be-all and end-all of your christian life so you don't look out of place and you inevitably fall into the wrong hands.

This story is longer than this; I'm sure you must have guessed this but guess what, if there was love, no matter how young the couple were, the story would have been different.

I know, I was that sister and I still have the scars to prove it.

so my beloved sisters, someone you don't love in marriage, no , no and a big fat no

Drusilla:

Enugu,

I have no personal involvement with some man I do not love.

@Drusilla,

[b]Thank you for that statement!

Drusilla:

Enugu,

But none of know the future except what the Holy Spirit shows us. What you call a loveless marriage now may very well be a loving marriage in the future.

I agree with the above statement but I go by the motto: never make life long decisions based on short term current circumstances.

If she is going to marry, she needs to think about more than how she currently feels.

@Drusilla,
In answer to your first point, it wouldn't be a loveless marriage in the present if it is going to be a loving marriage in the future; there will definitely be an element of some kind of attraction, be it physical / spiritual/emotional/intellectual. It usually on that foundation that a future loving marriage is built. Something usually draws the two people together; something that is beyond the natural eye. Even the Bible recognises that 'the way of a man with a maid' is one of the three wonderful things/ things which are hard to understand (paraphrase, mine- See Prov.30:18-19)

Secondly, a marriage that will last is rarely made based on feelings alone/short term current circumstances; neither is it based on some misguided sense of reluctant duty/fear of hell-fire. Trust me, if you really think about what it takes to live with a man for only-God-can-determine-how-long then my sister, you will not [/b] jump into such a decision lightly! (Think about a lifetime of snoring, not taking advice, smelly socks etc )

Anyway, seriously and lastly, how you feel is important but it is not strictly physical feelings; feelings involve how you feel about his looks, his spirituality, his intellect, his emotional state, his sense of duty and committment and most importantly, his relationship with the Father. If you don't feel a sense of God-given peace, abeg flee! It's that kind of feeling that I refer to and it  is important.

Marriage is a lifetime committment- It is something worth taking our time to get into. It is also something not to be entered with low expectations. God is not that kind of a Father- you will not ask for bread and He will give you a stone lai! lai! He wants to see a genuine smile on his daughter's face on her wedding day . So, go figure!!!

ronkebaby:

I agree with u all that say God cannot lead one to marry someone he/she does not love. But the baffling aspect of it is that most Nigerian pentecostal churches, especially the Scripture Union inclined ones are silent on the issue of choice of a marriage patner. They tend to support this vision/prophecy kind of thing which is very deceptive as it does not always permit conk members the right of choice most of the time. I just wonder what happens in such spirit filled relationships afterall for if they survive the rigours of marriage and end up being happy, it then does justify the auguement on the other hand too that God can lead one to someone he/she does not love.

@ronkebaby,

that is why a good percentage of Nigerian 'pentecostal' marriages are unhappy! Let me tell you, I was almost a victim of 'prohecy marriage' until luckily for me, a sister (who appeared to have more prospects) was 'prophesied' for that same brother because the Pastor wanted both of them to remain in the church for his own profit and he knew that the sis was 'searching for husband' while I was not; neither would I be disposed to being manipulated

The bottom line is that there is a lot of pretence, deceit and falsehood in so-called choosing life-partners. People are trying to hard to be 'holy' so they think that if they date, they might sin or on the other hand, they may date too many people before the right person, leading to all sorts of complications. That's not to say that I'm encouraging indiscriminate dating as a christian but the fact of the matter is that there is no proper education or enlightenment on how to approach the issue of man-woman relationships in most pentecostal churches; that is why there are so many 'unequal yoking' even among believers.

There is too much emphasis on Pastor said this and Pastor said that; nobody bothers to find out what God is saying. so if you don't hear from God on a regular basis, how would you hear from him when you want to get married   So what do you do? You rely on someone to tell you and inevitably, they lead you down the wrong path.

So Can God Lead You To Someone You Don't Love In Marriage? Once again, a resounding NO!!!

He is a God of love not loveless. He speaks of marriage as an analogy of Christ and His church; that should tell us something!!!

snazzydawn:

what is his real name please?

@snazzydawn

I think it's Lemarachi i.e 'Look to God/Look unto God

olabowale:

@Enugu: I had to look back at past entries to realize you may need a response from me. To me, most entries are very rhetorical.

Now to your question or hypothesis; Every one, male and female, young and old have a direct access to God, The Creator. You do not have to go through any of God's creations to connect to Him. Contrary to believe of a sizeable population of mankind, there is no need to have a mediem between the creation to the Creator. However, God, the Creator sent successions of Prophets and Messengers to mankind. The functions of these noble souls were to guide, warn and lead mankind, according to the revelation the received. The revelations are the blueprints and it was fully understood by the receiver. It is this receiver, who the people of his time would follow, in way of worshipping and need. First, we must all believe in the real Oneness and the indivisibility of God.

I believe that the core difference of all world's religions is what Creator means to each group. I person who does not even believe in the existence of God, can be an instrant believer under extrem stress. For example, if the vessel this person is sailing on hits rough water and about to break apart. Inshort, if people fear that their life is ending, you hear the quickness of calling God to bring them to safety. Although, after the terrible condition has passed and there is no more immediate of death, the unbeliever may go back to the old ways about God.

It is true that you really cannot fight God's fight. God is the Owner of all things, no one can fight Him and not be total destruction. The destruction that we as human being most is the destruction of after life. From all that I have read and experienced, God defeat all His enemies through the hands of His believing servants. A good example is the case of Ibrahiim (AS) and Numerod, the evil king of babylonian.
Another example is Musa (AS) and Pharaoh, the evil king of Egypt. There are others. Daud (AS0 was one who defeated Goliat. God could have defeated this people and entities without using any of these noble souls at I listed. However, you see that the heart of the true believers are strenghten , be it when the events listed were happening or those who hear about these in later generations.

I am going to tell you now about a story dear to my heart, to further clarify any murkiness. In the time of the last receiver of revelation, Muhammad (AS). In the 15th year of the revelation, he (AS) and his companions (RA), had their first battle, against the Makkans. The story abound with the essence of the persecution that the Muslims suffered up to this time. At the battle front, even though the Muslims were just 1/3 the size of the opposing makkans. The muslims were ill equiped and lacked the essential sustaining provisions and of course, it was the time of the obligatory fasting month of Ramadan.

However Muhammad (AS), by his Lord, was commanded to through a handful of dirt to the direction of the galant makkans. Immediately, the muslims were able to defeat this group of enemy. The makkans lost 77 people and the muslims, just only 7! This event of throwing a hand full of dirt is written in the Qur'an, if you search on the Battle of Badr.

However, some of the enemies of Islam in this battle, who later became Muslims spoke about the event that, it was as if grains of sand got into their eyes. The muslims, without proper equipment were surprised when they inspected the makkan dead, found some of their necks to have burnt marks. Muhammad (AS) explained to them that God, the Almighty had sent His Angels to reinforce the muslim rank. The weapon used by the Angels in this battle had a burning effect in it. The reinforcement of the muslims was also available in the Qur'an.

Inshort, God is capable to defend Himself. However, you His creation should be able to stand firm on truth, defending God, if only through dialogue.

@Olabowale,

Thanks for finally replying my post and clarifying yourself on some points; especially the ones about God fighting for you etc. You did not however clarify the issue of Noah nor did you mention anything about the other points I made about God's injunction to us to love our enemies.

Be that as it may, I will let that pass because in the final analysis, that is not the issue at hand.


However, the last and pertinent point which is the issue at hand, was left out which is why is terrorism synonymous with muslims? or like the thread asked is terrorism a muslim problem?

Awaiting your reply

babyosisi:

Joining in late in the conversation.
The deodorant bit is one I cannot stand.
Sweat stinks and gives body odor.
Every human,deeperlife or new covenant needs to wear it.
You don't want to be the talk of the work place when you are absent.

The person with the body odor never smells it.
It's the others that suffer.
Ladies and gentlemen encourage people around you to get deodorant and use it.

If your church doctrine forbids it,think of it as your own very alabaster oil or frankincense.
It is so Biblical.

@babyosisi,

lol!!!  . You've  really cracked me up with this one. I got bored of arguing about outward appearances because if I had paid heed to all the flak (_{hope I spelt that right}) I got about appearances as a new believer, then maybe, just maybe I would not have continued in my decision to accept Jesus as Saviour and Lord.

Just thought to see out of curiousity what the latest post was on this thread and you sure made my night. Kachifo

olabowale:

@Bhola: Thank you. Fortunately, there is not sign of bitterness in by heart and I am not a one who retched looking. Glory belonds to Allah, alone. I am a person who practices any thing other than depend on God, without any other. However, if you read my entries in the general sense of it, I have ignored a few of people who have personally attacked me.

When I was a little boy, I had friends who could actually have me as a grandchild. Now, I do have friends who are a lot younger that my own children. I have Nigerian friend who I could easily be his father. I do not let him or anybody give me undue respect. The reason is that I do not let age differences come between real personality. However, every person should be his/her own critic, before others. Majority is not always right, but it could rule. So is age. The truth is always right.

So read my entries and read other entries in response to me. When I descovered this board, I thought what you will have are mature people. I concentrated on religion alone. I avoid even the christian entries, because I do not want to offend anyone. If the nigerian mind is such that every other word is to abuse people and be very caustic, then what kind of future are we hoping for, say 100 years from now?

Some people will seaze at a chance to abuse the living and the dead, without any reflection, whatsoever. You want to abuse Muhammad (AS) and his Lord (Alla), go ahead. One is actually doing that at one's own peril. Some call Muhammad (AS) mo and Allah the Almighty allah. However, you need to caution yourself, always.

Thanks, again, Bhola. At the end, All thanks belong to Allah. I am neither bitter nor saddened "old man". God is good to me. I am successful and known in what I do. I am healthy and not sick. All of these are from the mercy of The Most Merciful on me. I have a lot of Christians and Jews as personal fiends and also as business associates. And they are not all Nigerians and Americans, alone. I also have Hindu and Buddist as friend. Inshort, I am a very happy man and grateful to God Almighty Allah for it.

@Olabowale,

Is that why I am yet to receive a reply from you

nilla:

why do you guys always think that the people that are not on your side in calling muslims terrorist are muslims.

I never gave you the impression or said i was muslim.

Like i keep saying i don't know what kind of answer you expected from me.

Dont tell me what to answer or not answer. its a free for all thread isn't it.

the question is " Is terrorism a muslim problem"
to which my answer is no. We've had terrorists long before 911.

I don't believe I've told you what to answer or what not to answer as the case may be. I only took you up based on your reply to other people's comments. Fair enough, you've managed to clarify your stance- you are not a muslim and terrorism is not a muslim problem- that is clear enough.

However, the terrorists we had long before 9/11, were also synonymous with muslims; majority of them. (_{just for your records)}

But of course, you're entitled to your opinion.

Cheers

babyosisi:

and Muslim terrorism started with 911?,never heard PANAM 183?,several in Naija and other places?

Thank you! i really do not know what else to say or ask

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Ghettogyal:

enugu, thank u so much. but i was not be able to c her films but maybe next time. did u c the film? if yes how was it? hope to c u online again next time.

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@Ghettogyal

Not to worry, the film is on general release at the Odeon Streatham and Odeon Surrey Quays Cinemas. And it's on the 13th and 14th of October (Fri. and Sat.) as well as the 20th and 21st. Time- 10.30pm

And it's the normal ticket price, as well as student price which is not more than £6.00. I'm not sure if Stephanie is still around although I heard she might be in the Uk till the end of October so you might be lucky!

cheers

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nilla:

Enugu,

i don't know what kind of answer you want from me. i'm not muslim. All i know is what i've said before.

Terrorism is not a muslim problem. Plain and simple. if thinking it is a muslim problem makes you feel better, then thats fine.
We have other people behaving badly and they are not muslims.

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@Nilla,

If you are not a muslim, then you are not really in any position to answer any of my questions. You should have stated that on this thread and it would have saved me the trouble of asking you as you do not know nor have the answers. And for the record, 'there is no kind of answer I want from you'

Secondly, if you read all my posts and understood them, you will see that I also mentioned the people of the Niger Delta as being involved in terrorist activities, however, it is not synonymous with them.

Your statement- if thinking it is a muslim problem makes you feel better, then thats fine, is a cop-out; you do not have the answers, just say so!  Don't use dismissive statements to evade or escape a logical conversation.

Finally, since as you said earlier that you are not a muslim, leave the answers to muslims because you cannot speak in-depth for them. You are only arguing on an emotional level on an issue which you are ill-prepared for which leaves you looking ignorant when I'm sure you are not.

Leave it for someone like Olabowale, who is[/b]a muslim and who, [b]when he eventually gets round to it, will hopefully, rise to the occasion and answer my questions without any frills.

cheers

KDK,

As much as I agree with your comments on this topic, can I also suggest to you that the greatest of God's miracle is the conversion of a person's soul- that a person is reborn in the spirit. That is the greatest miracle. So while we are looking for those who will 'turn water into wine' while preaching the word, let's pray that people are turned to God on hearing the word and seeing the signs- that is the miracle of all ages!

Check out his latest album The Truth About Love the first track is an intro of Igbo gospel! Can you believe it!!! Kudos to him for identifying with his roots

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nilla:


Enugu,
I wish i can give you a "straight forward answer" to your question.
I really don't know the kind of answer you expected.

All i know is that terrorism is not a muslim problem.

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Okay Nilla, at least I've tried. If you and Olabowale are not able to give me any answers, straight or crooked forward, then at least permit me to draw my own conclusions; because eventually, that's what happens where there is no clarification.

Thank you

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lafile:

most people who have authenticated tb joshua on this thread have done so based on the miracles. everybody talks about "the miracles of God." what about "the God of Miracles"? i have listened to him a few times on tv and honestly i no pick anything from the man. his teaching all seem rehearsed. this is my own personal opinion sha o! as some said " my spirit no just agree wit the man spirit". for me the Word is the most important factor. remember " He exalts his word above his name."

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My brother,

That is what I have been saying, it's not about miracles, it is about God. I will keep my opinion of the man to myself . The most important thing is if your spirit agrees with him, fine; if not, then

nilla:

enugu,

you want to tell me since man was created, only muslims have been terrorizing people

even American high school students have been known to terrorize their mates at school.

No Nilla, I do not want to tell you that Muslims are the only one terrorizing people, I asked why are they the ones mainly associated with it.

And if you had read my reply to Olabowale earlier, you would have understood where my train of thought came from. Terrorism has been and is. Amongst the people of the Niger Delta even! Their activities have also been labelled as terrorist.
However, my question was/is to you and him, why in recent times are the words terrorism and muslim synonymous

And while we are at it, why are questions asked about Islam not answered directly I asked you a question for clarification and you turned around and asked me another one. How does that answer my question and clarify my concerns

And before you jump on the bandwagon like others, about my motives, it shouldn't be an issue why I asked the question, it would be nice and polite to get a straightforward answer.

I hope that will happen on this forum.

Would we be allowed to dress the way we like in a muslim country, I don't think so. Even in Kaduna, just next door here, you couldnot walk pass the late Sheikh Gumi's compound if you wore a skirt; his goons would chase you with their horse whips. _{I remember we used to walk pass there in our school uniforms just for the fun of it} ( and then we did not even wear short skirts; they were well below the knee.

So we could argue this issue from now till kingdom come, the muslims on this site would just argue right back. No point if you ask me. Even if you catch them breaking the laws of their holy book, they [i]will stil[/i]l find some excuse for it.

You can't criticise them or their religion without getting your head bitten off or getting excuses, excuses, excuses. I've asked them variously in other threads for simple explanations/answers but all I get is rigmarole after rigmarole.

So let's wait and see what their excuse reply will be this time. I can assure you, it won't be long in coming

@ Olabowale

still waiting for your response to my contribution.

@ Nilla,

If it is not, then why are muslims the ones mainly associated with it?

@Nostrings

Inter-tribal marriage is not as straight forward as it seems. Having said that, I'm not trying to discourage you but to get you to look deep into your heart. Are you at peace with marrying this guy? Look at yourselves in the next 5, 10 15 years (God willing) can you honestly say that this is the guy you would want to spend the rest of your life with??

You see whether we like it or not, marriage comes with its own 'issues' so does inter-tribal marriage so you have to be absolutely sure that he is what you want.

Secondly, learn all about him and his tribe and how you can fit yourself in; don't take anything for granted. Love is not enough! It needs trust, patience, committment, etc to help it blossom. All that 'this is the 21st century and not our parent's times blah, blah, blah is alright until you hit the hard times and then yawa will begin gas

Always be totally honest with yourself, even if you can't be with anybody else. Strip everything down to its barest minimum: at the end of the day, if you can stand and proudly say 'this is the man I want for the rest of my life, the father of my children, the love of my life, then you will be able to work towards making your different tribes a plus rather than a minus.

There might be a lot of opposition but true love conquers in the end. Remember, his family, your family are not your enemy; they are just fighting albeit, misguidedly (or not) for their loved one so they might prove difficult. Have God on your side and if this man is His will for you, you will prevail.

God loves you. Cheers

_{she speaks from experience}

olabowale:

@Wumine: Jihad is struggle. It involves every types of struggling; A person who tries to do right by others in business and others is in Jihad. It is not fighting alone that is Jihad.

Do you know that if God were to fight your fight for you, the first thing is that you have to be a pious individual with good and pure belief in God. Are you this person. No one can say with certainty. If you say that you are, then it is a value of arrogance. God does not like arrogant people.

If God fights your fight for you, your enemy will be destroyed. Take the case of Prophet Noah (AS), he complained about his people. He asked for their demise. They were utterly destroyed, except the few who were in the vessel with him.

In a small way, all of us are fighting for our concept of God. I am fighting for Allah. I am defending Him, His religion to mankind, His prophet of that completion of that religion and those who are in the religion. All the muslims, men and women are doing it on Nairaland.

The christians are doung it as well for their cincept of God, which in their case involves Jesus. They are also doing it for Saul/Paul who they believe is an apostle of jesus or God, doing the carrying on.

Do not think that the christians on Nairaland or the world over are not involved in Jihad. Yes it is the exact thing that they are doing. They are quick to bomb and kill by waging wars against muslim societies. they do it, individually, organizationally (NATO), collisionally of the willing or the coersed. They encourage others to do it when it will be obvious that they have no reason to do it.

Others do it by making missionary efforts.

The whole world is full of struggle in one form or the other. It all depend on where you are in the effort. unfortunately, to few a people are struggling to bring unity among mankind.

@Olabowale,

With all due respect sir, Jehovah-El-Shaddai, God Almighty, does not need anyone to fight for Him! He is more than able. Time and space will not permit but go and read the book of Judges in the Old Testament - God gave the Isrealites up into the hands of their enemies when they turned their back on Him but He also fought for them when the cried out to Him. So,

No, you do not have to be a pious person for God to fight for you. He will fight for you, regardless. He says we should 'call upon Him in the day of trouble, and He will deliver us, ' Psalm 50 vs.15. He will not ask "you are you pious"?, before He delivers you. God is His Word and if He says He will deliver you, that's just it![/color]

He is NOT partial, He fights for everyone who calls upon Him. If you are not pious, that would not stop Him. He knows what to do and how to judge you and your impious ways and because He is the Creator, His judgements are fair and just. He is not a petty God who only has time for 'righteous' people. He said [color=#550000]'I desire mercy not sacrifice. For I did not come to call the righteous, but the sinners, to repentance.'[ Matthew 9 vs.12b

As for the issue of Noah, I don't know what the qu'ran says, but the Bible records this: 'And God said to Noah, "The end of all flesh has come before Me, for the earth is filled with violence through them; and behold I will destroy them with the earth"' Genesis 6 vs. 13

Noah did not ask for his enemies' destruction; it was God who chose to destroy the earth for their sinfulness.

We may be defending our God religion but not with threats, bombs, and any other form of violence. We do not need to. How can we justify that to a God who said to us to 'love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you' ? Matthew 5vs. 44


So, the question is Is Terrorism A Muslim Problem?. Unfortunately, in these times, it has come to be identified as such. Trying to compare it with the ills of other religions will not help.

At this present time, no other religion is killing people in the name of a deity.

People are fighting for their freedom around the world, e.g in the Niger Delta area of Nigeria, however, they are doing it for economic and social reasons; to be free from their opression and opressors. So although you may call their activities terrorist activities, it is targeted at those who are responsible for their condition not innocents.

Perhaps, if muslims fought for what they believed by faith in their deity, then they would have no need to indulge in violence to get their point across and the word 'terrorist' and 'muslim', would not be synonymous.

cheers

Posted by: Backslider on: September 23, 2006, 03:27 PM
WE MUST TRY ALL SPIRITS. we are supposed to take everything hook line and sinker because of miracles. I have seen Miracles that had made people worse please THE GREATEST MIRACLE IS TO BE SAVED FROM THE GRIP OF SIN THAT IS THE REASON WHY JESUS CAME BUT BECAUSE SIN IS RIFE IN THE CHURCH AND THE CRAVE FOR MATERIAL WEALTH IS HIGH. I have attended several Churches and there is this desire for miracles.


@Backslider,

thank you! the question for me is what is the spirit of God saying to you? If you sincerely follow on to know the Lord, He will always reveal Himself to you. YOU CAN NEVER SEEK GOD AND FIND THE DEVIL If you seek God, YOU WILL find Him for sure!!!

We MUST try every spirit especially at these times we are in. Arguing about miracles as a sign of God's approval or mark is folly.  The socerers at Pharoah's table were able to replicate miracles.

The point is what is the Spirit saying to you in light of His word. Let that determine who TB is. This is not judgement; this is obedience to God's word!!!

Backslider:

Dressing if for Covering and Identity Purposes.

I must preserve my body and cover my body I must not be a stumbling block to my brother. I mus be very modest. My body belong to God and my husband or Wife, This is holiness and devotion.

Anything that does not[b] preserve[/b] my body you must know I can not allow this is modesty. I ask where in the bible that smoking wee cocaine or cigarette is a sin.

I used to know someone who said that women in wrapper turned him on. so while one is busy trying 'not to be a stumbling block' to others, just know that you cannot please all the people all the time. It will do us good to please The One who made us who we are - Jehovah-Elohim, and trust Him to lead us in the right path.

This obsessive focus on the outside is more often than not to the detriment of the inside. Like KDK said earlier, the key is balance between extremeties.

The Word remains steadfast and true but remember that the letter of the law without the spirit leads to

I remember in the early '90s, a lot of christians in these ultra-'holy' churches, lost touch with reality because they were trying too hard in their own strength to 'fulfill all righteousness'. There was a case where a new convert was told just days after giving her life that"if you wear trousers to our church, WE'LL THROW YOU OUT!" Meanwhile, no-one bothered to take her through the rudiments of a convert; a new life in Christ.

That is what I found in DLBC and why youths run away. Maybe if they taught Christ and Him crucified, rather than doctrines, then the Word planted in the hearts of the young will have the opportunity to germinate and take hold and transform that life from the inside to the outside, PERMANENTLY and not only when 'brethren are present'

Guys it's true o! He's really dead. I confirmed it this morning via text from Nigeria from an executive member of AMP and AGN, respectively.

Nigeria has lost a great talent. May God receive his soul

Ghettogyal:

is anyone online now please? because i don't understand this thing about Stephanie Okereke. was she in London acting? or was it just a movie of her at the cinema.

My apologies o! Ghettogyal, I've been pretty busy so I've havent had time to follow up on this info.

Yes, Stephanie is in London and will be at both Streatham & Surrey Quays Odeon cinemas for the premiere of the film.

Another thing is that the tickets have been reduced to £15 ; so that's good news!

See you there?

Backslider, nice one . Hope the 'tolerant' muslims on the forum can read it with an open mind

Do they now see why the argument persists that Islam is not practised as a religion of peace

Uche2nna:

Yeah she is not African just like Ramsey Nouah is not Nigerian!

@Uche2nna,
Of course now, we all know that Ramsey is JEWfrican/NIG'Israeli/! who dash am Nigerian?? Abeg make e go siddon bo!!!

I don't know about the action hero bit but I like Emeka Enyiocha because he is not fake, i.e his acting. It's very natural. I especially liked him in 'The Message', i think it was, where he played alongside, Chiege. More grease to your elbow, nwanna

N'landers, as promised, I've attached the poster and it includes all other info concerning dates and venues of the other premieres.

So hope to see y'all there!

Cheers

What if you were dating someone (or are engaged or even married ) and they suffer from occasional bouts of bad breath

You want to tell them but at the same time, you don't want to hurt their feelings, how do you go about letting them know

Film Africa presents a nollywood film titled 'The Successor' starring Olu Jacobs, Stephanie Okereke, Dakore Egbuson amongst others. It will be premiering at various Odeon cinemas in London; starting with Odeon Swiss Cottage on Friday the 22nd of Sept, by 10.30pm. (Tickets are £30.00, including free popcorn and drinks and a free goodie bag)

More information to be posted later when I can lay my hands on the flyers but in the mean time, watch BENTv (Sky channel 148) for the advert. Stephanie and Dakore will be attending - this is authentic gist.

Fellow 'landers, please come out and support your own.

Thanks.

(for our 'landers in the States and Naija, the premieres will be coming in the following months)

lioness:

@Lioness,

Abeg help me out here o!  What point exactly is she making Of course human love is not God's love! No-one is disregarding that fact. Afterall, how many of us can practise I Cor. 13 in its fullness

Answer - none

@drusilla,

we are human beings and as such our humanity plays a role in our journey here on earth; that is why there is no marriage in heaven. so if you're expecting some esoteric, heavenly, airy-fairy kind of love as you seem to describe,then I don't think you are with us at all.

Tell me something, do you have friends and do you love them Or do you relate to them out of a sense of duty of your friendship to them With your friends, don't you choose to compromise, make sacrifices, and sometimes allow yourself to be 'cheated' for the sake of friendship

and isn't that the same thing in marriage but before they became your friends, didn't 'something' draw you to them

am just curious to be honest, is there someone you're meaning to marry but you absolutely feel nothing for him and yet you're going ahead to marry him out of

Or like I asked before, are you married to someone you do not love and so want all of us to do the same

My sister, more grease to your elbow o!

but fellow 'landers, be mindful- God will not take you where His grace cannot keep you. It's not only about how you feel but also about having that peace that passeth all understanding about that man/woman. God is able to give you both- love and His perfect will; He is more than able!!!

This life is hard enough and God is not going to be petty and make it any harder. He will make a way of escape and that is certainly not a loveless marriage!!!!!