For me Declan Rice deserves APOTY

AdisaOwala:
Awon omo oro meji

If na one useless club now, we go dey hear " ah, Pep is too good in England"

Isn't he good . This is his first time losing a final in a major competition

Spy360:

I thought you would end by saying...

And Emery won the league.

Because what has Emery done with Aston Villa that Arteta has not done better. Mention one.

Aston Villa didn't buy 50M defender, Villa didn't have a Partey and Rice in midfield, Villa can't buy 2 city stars... No pundits will tip Villa to finish ahead of Chelsea and Utd not to talk of 4th, now talkless of the league...

But Emery's Vilareal won Europa and Reached UCL semis....Arterta hasn't reached that

Roland17:


I kukuma warned you..

My strength has finished...I leave you guys for now

iamoyindamola:

They play my fans

I give up o....Na to build Arterta statue next

germaphobe:

Baba no turn Amala abeg, they asked you to mention managers and you're mentioning people who Arteta is currently in a better place than. Don't try to change the narrative that shit doesn't work with me

I suggested you rubbished them with what have they achieved, I asked what has Arterta achieved before Arsenal took the risk, Raya hasn't done anything spectacular at Brentford, but today he is winning the gloves......where is now the Turning Turner talk....

Jodera:

If you stumble on a very good thing that is improving everyday, after all the investment you've poured on it, would you discard it for some "unknown" best thing neglecting its potential of better and best things he can offer?

How are you so sure the Leipzig coach for example will not be a "start afresh"?

And you know what starting afresh would do to us in a competitive league as EPL right?

Okay o....stick to Arterta o ..he is the best thing that can happen to Arsenal for the next years.

germaphobe:
Leipzig and Milan coach. I laughed so hard man!!! . Ok, Alonso can be excused but Stefano pioli and Marco Rose . Oya see nah!!. Where those two coaches dey for table this year?, Where did the finished on the table last year?. 😂 we too dey play for here ah swear.

Where was Arterta before coming here, he never managed, he was a bigger risk than those midtables you're mocking.... Are you saying Arterta is the best thing that can happen to Arsenal now?

mostob:
Decent manager like who? I don't know why you all are scared to mention name

Arterta was who before Arsenal brought him? So if a youth corper can try, a decent coach may do far better....or are you saying Arterta is the best thing ever than can happen to Arsenal?

Jodera:
Lmaooo...
That's me riling him up because of his constant hate towards the guy.

When someone says he doesn't care if we win the league or not as long as Arteta is gone. Or he wants Chelsea to disgrace us just so to see Arteta gone, I have to go through that route

It's nothing deep really

toh.

Make both of you sha no fight o, I wasn't happy seeing you both go at each other

iamoyindamola:

These guys will say A and will later tell you it's B
I have never seen such double face people before

Hmmm

iamoyindamola:

Bro rest, we are good at twisting words or should i say lying

I don't get

iamoyindamola:

No they are not
Lord arteta is better than them all, alonso is going unbeaten by displacing bayern with 15 points as a rookie
I can assure you if that was our coach we will bottle it and he will earn praises like bayern have been winning it mombo jombo shit
Zidane took madrid to 3 ucl success as a rookie, they will say he's with superstars

All hail king arteta the second best of his kind, the best work in progress manager of all time

Your wahala is too much.... I know you don't hate Arterta, you just want success irrespective of any manager who can....I remembered how you criticized Emery but later admitted he wasn't 💯 the problem....

I forsee another Arterta out and Arterta knows best saga in future

Jodera:
Nobody is giving anybody legendary treatment here.
We are celebrating progress made unlike what we have before and I don't see what Is wrong with that.

One thing I know is that nobody is attacking anybody for criticizing Arteta. I've criticized him here, Mo.stob, Spy, Blue-ray have all criticized him one way or the other here.

What we're against is saying Arteta should be sacked and as well undermining the progress we have made as a team. Imagine Saying this team haven't improved before

Imagine saying Arteta have been this season and last season is top 4 we're contending for. What sort of progress-undermining is that?

And when we try to rubbish those notion, they will tell us we're Arteta lovers and that we're taking Arteta as a god!

Hmmmm... Okay o...but I read you saying Arterta would be here for 5years to Oyinda... It was so somehow to me o ...... Look at Raya situation, I credited Arterta for that move, that was world class of him, Ramsdele was a top performing and one of the best in the league, yet Arterta didn't sleep on him like he is a legend already, now Raya won the gloves....that's great of him.....So Arsenal can also move up with another manager if in 1/2 years no big success....just a decent manager can do a Raya and Ramsdele now

mine3112:

My brother,who are you suggesting to the board that will take us to the promise land if you think we can't achieve that feet from Arteta because all we want is the glory of the club..

Bro, I have never asked him to be sacked, it is risky to sack him just as Arsenal realized sacking Emery (who was doing better elsewhere), didn't instantly yeuld results, it took spending and several times before everything normalized.

But Arsenal should not be relaxed with Arterta nor be celebrating near success or best after Pep.... I was only against those saying he is a legend who should be here for next 5yrs because of these incredible results... If after next season no reasonable success, the club should try and look elsewhere for a decent manager and try new things...

Just as a decent Raya who wasn't setting the world apart came and unseat Ramsdele, there are many managers who could come and be an upgrade... The Leipzig, Leverkusen, Milan etc managers are decent.

Jodera post=1299w096:

Maybe if Emery had won a cup, just any cup, with that squad and also not lose the dressing room, he would still be an arsenal manager not Arteta.
All these Europa final praise ey we no win no be am


And no, he bought those clowns players you listed not Wenger.

How come he won trophies elsewhere? How come he is about to make UCL with Villa? How come Arterta didn't use that squad to d this present "wonders"? My point will always be he was never 100% the problem.

You knew Arsenal was never spending big then....it was series of loans, yougsters,pensioners...Which reasonable coach would go purchase Luiz, Litchternie and Sokratis...
Wenger Owned Mustafi and Kolasinac....

If you don't want to rate Europa final them why are you guys overpraising Artera's coming second? Why overpraising being favorite against Bayern? Why overpraising beating these Utd, spurs, Liverpool and Chelsea who have almost been beaten by anyone...
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Like I have said, it's you guys who are emotional about Arterta, he haas tried and should be made to feel the heat of delivering of may get sacked....as against the he has done wonders and should be here comfortably for 10years... I don't believe his. Critics hate him nor want him sacked, they just get irritated by the legendary treatment they are reading from some of you.

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Roland17:


Sir, they are coming for you but no off your mic. They convulse anytime Arteta is remotely compared. Watch them label you..

Me no get time to shalaye like that again...na you I dey salute your strength here....

They said Emery was the worst, he left for Villarreal, knocked Arsenal our and won that trophy... Took Villarreal to UCL semis, knocked out Bayern ( Remember that Chukwueze's goal) came to England, brought Aston Villa to Europe and now UCL.... beating this Arsenal side twice.... And yet you don't want to admit it was the clowns he inherited or average buys the club gave him that was the problem...

For real, Arterta has done some good jobs, but the standard now at Arsenal cannot be compared to the days of top4, Arsenal paid 100M for a midfielder, 50M for a defender... Buying 2 City stars....

Kai haverts and Raya.big buys that wasn't happening those days... You're expected to be competing for all trophies in the least with that investment...
He is competing for the league, that's very good but nothing extraordinary...

I'm sure Chelsea and Utd would sack their managers next season should they fail to compete meaningfully.

Jodera:
Lmaooo.

Kids like Torreira and Guendouzi?
A whole Torreira don turn kid.

The players you listed, did he meet them here or did he buy them apart from Mustafi?

Partey/Rice Midfield, who bought them? Emery?

Suddenly reaching Europa League final and conference league semi is an achievement, yet Arteta won Fa cup and reached Europa League semi final in his first 1½ season here but Una still deh castigate am.

Arteta revolutionized Xhaka that he left here as a legend, same Xhaka you would have included in your list if not for Arteta.


One day one day, all of Una go tell us wetin Arteta do Una

Emery wanted Partey that year, Torreira wasn't his first choice, Guen was a kid.....my point is Rice and Partey buys were never what previous managers before Arterta benefited..

The Mustafi and other clowns were Wenger's left overs, they almost relegated under Arterta that year, before he was able to turn it around by finishing 8th and Fa cup... Remember that was the beginning of big signings at Arsenal from.White, Partey, Jesus, Zinchemko and others...

It's you guys who belittle Europa final with that squad but overpraised his own Fa cup...
Xha
For Xhaka, For me, he only improved due to the qualities around him here and in Germany.

Lastly, I no too get issue with Arterta, I'm not calling for his sack, but I'm never going to appreciate overpraising him like a Messiah nor allow him to be flexing with no pressure on his jobs.... despite his efforts and lots of good work, he has errors too...

He should have a fear of what happened between Ramsdele/Raya may happen to him too.

FyI, Unai Ebening is about to make UCL football in his first full season with Villa, Remember he took Villa from a relegation zone where Steven Gerrard dropped them...

He was not presented with Mustafi, Sokratis, Luiz,Kolasinac, Litchternier..... While at Arsenal He didn't enjoy a Saliba/ Gabriel

He doesn't have kids like Torreira and Guendozi.... At Arsenal, he didn't enjoy a partey/Rice midfield


Just some decent players and just 1 world best goalkeper, he took them to European semis this year...

He was definitely not the major problem, maybe part.

germaphobe:

During Emery's time the transfer market wasn't this high. In all this back and forth argument, what I know is that Arteta is not leaving Arsenal at the end of season, yes he fxcks up but sometimes the players have to share the blame and not the coach. Would we be here with all these write ups if Arsenal made use of the chances vs Villa at first half?, Would we have crashed out if white had scored that 2nd goal instead of blast at Neur?, What if Gabriel, Saliba and Raya maintained composure at the back, would we have conceded those kind of goals. Some days you guys are compliment Teta for his in-game management and how he has improved greatly on that, and other days we slaughter him here for same. Mistakes are part of the game, losses happen from time to time cus you can't always win, but getting pessimistic and emotional after each loss isn't really my thing.

You're on point....I just do not support the idea of not letting Arterta feel the heat, This was how Wenger started till Arsenal became a near success team all year and later everything capitulated.

germaphobe:

Why didn't emery take us to the UCL?. What's UEL final if you didn't get the trophy?. Wenger played the final too with our finest squad and lost

Why didn't you spend and give ebening time too?

raumdeuter:


Klopp is older and better than Arteta there is no crime in that. With time Arteta will likely gain more experience and become a force too

Despite that, Klopp sef how many he don win?
1 league and 1 CL plus 2 carabao in 9yrs despite being wayyy better and experienced

I agree and that's if Arterta should stop being a starting 11 coach....he needs to learn how to manage squad....Klopp was able to survive the massive injury spells his players had in the season.... Arsenal would have crumbled since if they had that injury list...An Injury to Saliba alone made Arsenal's defense looked ordinary last year.... He should work on squad management and not starting 11 one competition coach.

raumdeuter:


Before Arteta, we're you making top 4 regularly? Prior to Arteta you made top 2 once in 14 seasons prior

Arsenal is guaranteed to make top 4. Before Arteta how many seasons can you say confidently you will make top 4

Arteta made 84points last season that last time you made 84points in the league was 20yrs ago.
You are asking what Arteta has done. Make we no lie make we no sin oh


He bottled the league? Against Pep. You know how many legendary coaches have bottled the league against Pep? Klopp in one season had like an 8points lead on Pep and he bottled it

17 competition won 1. That tends to happen when you are playing against big name coaches with deep pockets too. How many trophies has a more experienced and better Klopp won in how many tries

Any coach no matter how good will look bad when the competition is that stiff

Any manager can be accused of lacking game management and tactics. Of the league top 3, Arteta has taken 4 points off Pep and Klopp. Do you think someone who lacks game management will beat Pep 2 times and draw 1 in 9months or beat Klopp 1 time and draw the other?

What progress has he made post Wenger? We'll you are back to CL quarters for the first time in 14yrs which includes the tenure of Wenger and other coaches after. You are now a firm top 3 side in the league for the first time in almost 20yrs possibly tip 2 if Klopp leaves. Tell me that's not improvement

He crashed out in Europe like many top teams. You are complaining about crashing to one of European legacy and heritage teams what should Liverpool fans do to Klopp who crashed out of Europa quarters that they were favorite to win vs Atalanta

He signed Harvetz made him top earner but your result is showing that you are neck to neck for the title. What more should he do to convince you that he got it right

Signings and waste of funds? Welcome to the real world of a football manager. Pep has a list including Grealish Kalvin Phillips, who knows with Nunes and Kovacic possibly Doku

Abi shey na Klopp no go explain wetin he see for Nunez, Naby Keita, Oxlade, Thiago Sanwo-Olu abi na Karius

Abi make we yabara stol by at Chelsea and Man utd to see wasted transfers?


I dey on mobile I for format the response better

Post Pep and Klopp, Its possible that Arsenal become the top team and league favorites

You are competing currently against coaches that are said to be all timers

Before Arterta Arsenal wasn't spending like he was allowed to...Wenger was making top4 with average players till 2016... Arsenal came 2nd in 2015 all with average buys....

Arterta didn't make top4 in his first 2 seasons, it was after the huge investment and him priotizing the top4 ahead of other competitions.....

Arterta has done fine no doubt but it's not like he has done something out of this world...Arsene and Emery would have gotten 84 points were they have been boosted financially and priotized the league...

Arsenal had a chance against Bayern this year due to bayerns poor form nothing more.

germaphobe:

Thanks for your assertation, now following this what will you say about klopp who have spent 1.2 million and only 1 epl to show for it in 8 seasons, after bottling to man city on couple occasions, bottling champions league and Europa too?

This is not to attack Arterta o, but Klopp brought the much awaited Big trophy Epl and Ucl, just one of those bought him many years and fans never wanted him out....
Klopp over the years eliminated the mighty pep out of UCL, beat Bayern, Barca, PSG played 3 UCL finals couples with some Carabao and Fa cups....

If Arterta drops 1 UCL or EpL, He has immunity for 5years to majority of Arsenal fans.

Roland17:


I say this all the time

Ebening achieved 5th place in the EPL with a UEL final appearance with those clowns. When Arteta dared using those set of clowns, we were nearly relegated and finished 8th for consecutive seasons.

It was at that point Arsenal started investing big, they knew it would be relagation battle with those clowns

Arterta though has tried and deserves some respect, but he benefited from huge buys previous manager didn't have....

If only Arterta can work on his bench, how a manager wants to play with his starting 11 all season is what I don't get, that's why he always perform well in whatever league he wants to compete in.

Same old Same Old
Very soon we would soon have the Arterta knows best and Arterta out brigade . All same old....

My own be say make nobody disrespect Ebening here o.... I don't know the magic any coach would do to make top4 with the defense of Litchntiner, Mustafi, Sokratis, Luiz, Kolasinac

As for Arterta, he has tried but I don't know if sacking him or trusting him is the next thing.

I keep wondering how Utd fans do not rate McTominay,yet he is either scoring or assisting.....
For me, I don't he deserves that much stick,he is always making it up with end product....Well,maybe if I see a factual fan who can analyze him properly without sentiments and emotions.

I would understand Rashford and Anthony's criticism,only if they had been turning up,Utd would have been up there

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BlueRayDick:
I watched a clip of Man utd vs Arsenal 2004 in which man utd won 2-0. I am forced to agree that if there was VAR back in the days, Man utd would most likely not have won as much cups as they did under Ferguson .

That very match was an indicator . Like I saw two different instances man utd players would've been sent off if it was reviewed by VAR . The first goal was even a penalty won through a dive . Neville just carry dangerous tackle nearly break our player leg and he just carry on like that 🥵

Saw the clip too.... Somebody said no wonder Utd are suffering those decisions today

When you have exceptional world class players like KDB and Halland in your team, only then can you dream of UCL and EPL

Don't joke with Liverpool

daveP:
Officially a Grad
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Congratulations bro I hope you won't be doing serious calculations for Arsenal in the UCL group games