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Politics / Re: Abiola Ajimobi Made Heaven - Wife, Florence by fortran12: 2:21pm On Aug 04, 2020
Truetalk3139:


Hell (Earth) definitely exist!
Hell is not earth. They are 2 different places.
Politics / Re: Abiola Ajimobi Made Heaven - Wife, Florence by fortran12: 11:03am On Aug 04, 2020
Truetalk3139:


Okay sorry, a God is not a Perfect being
No not that part the part ot hell does not exist
Politics / Re: Abiola Ajimobi Made Heaven - Wife, Florence by fortran12: 10:22pm On Aug 03, 2020
Truetalk3139:
Religion has really blinded us, there is nothing like hell, the world we live in is the hell most religion misinterpret, do you think a GOD can make a world like this with its short comings?

A GOD is a perfect being and his creations are perfect, take a look around you, look at the amount of people suffering, the amount of evil and so on! Is it possible a "Perfect" God created them that way? NO!

When we die, we are simply reborn until we have served our punishment completely here on earth (Hell)
Says who?
Phones / Re: Tiktok Responds To Trump: We Are Not Going Anywhere by fortran12: 2:15pm On Aug 02, 2020
RonaldoVido:
Your congressmen are accusing big tech companies like Facebook, Amazon and Google of monopoly and stifling competition.

Yet Trump is doing this to foreign built companies.

Trump, have you heard Huawei is now the largest smartphone supplier in the world ?

Tiktok users are even more than Instagram users.
Its not cos of competition, its cos its stealing data thats why it was banned

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Phones / Re: Tiktok Responds To Trump: We Are Not Going Anywhere by fortran12: 2:12pm On Aug 02, 2020
dangoteinlaw:
u still won't get it no matter the explanations. Imagine ur whole life being controlled by one person. From Facebook to instagram then WhatsApp he controls whatever goes in and out of u, he decides what u see and don't see. That's what trump wants. They are angry another big player will take away that monopoly.
I dont think you understand these social media are not in support of the american president.
Tik tok collects your data and sends to the chinese government. It literally takes everything you do on your phone. Your data is supposed to be more valuable than videos of teens dancing etc.
If a stranger asks for some info about you, you will decline but let an app entice you with some little " entertainment" you will even give your bank account details

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Islam for Muslims / Re: The Takbeer And When To Say It. by fortran12: 10:01am On Jul 31, 2020
advocatejare:
Let us not forget that Isaac was the sacrificial boy not Ismael.


Most Muslims do not know that Sarah was not the mother of Ishmael. Ishmael is the ancestor of the Arabs and Muhammad. Ishmael was the son of Hagar the Egyptian slave of Sarah.

Imams and Ustaz always lie to us that Abraham wanted to sacrifice Ishmael but the Quran never made that claim. The Quran was silent on the name of the sacrificial son, but it's glaring that the son is Isaac

The Quran is disjointed, I'll help you by bringing it together so that you can know that Isaac is the one whose glad tidings was brought
رَبِّ هَبْ لِى مِنَ الصّٰلِحِينَ
"My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 100)


فَبَشَّرْنٰهُ بِغُلٰمٍ حَلِيمٍ
"So We gave him good tidings of a forbearing boy."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 101)



وَامْرَأَتُهُۥ قَآئِمَةٌ فَضَحِكَتْ فَبَشَّرْنٰهَا بِإِسْحٰقَ وَمِنْ وَرَآءِ إِسْحٰقَ يَعْقُوبَ
"And his Wife was standing, and she smiled. Then We gave her good tidings of Isaac and after Isaac, Jacob."
(QS. Hud 11: Verse 71)



وَبَشَّرْنٰهُ بِإِسْحٰقَ نَبِيًّا مِّنَ الصّٰلِحِينَ
"And We gave him good tidings of Isaac, a prophet from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 112)



فَلَمَّا بَلَغَ مَعَهُ السَّعْىَ قَالَ يٰبُنَىَّ إِنِّىٓ أَرٰى فِى الْمَنَامِ أَنِّىٓ أَذْبَحُكَ فَانْظُرْ مَاذَا تَرٰى  ۚ قَالَ يٰٓأَبَتِ افْعَلْ مَا تُؤْمَرُ  ۖ سَتَجِدُنِىٓ إِنْ شَآءَ اللَّهُ مِنَ الصّٰبِرِينَ
"And when he reached with him [the age of] exertion, he said, O my son, indeed I have seen in a dream that I [must] sacrifice you, so see what you think. He said, O my father, do as you are commanded. You will find me, if Allah wills, of the steadfast."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 102)


The Quran didn't tell us why Abraham's wife smiled (wife not slave girl) we will pardon the Quran for not telling us because the Quran had said we should believe in the Torah and in the Torah, the reason why Sarah laughed was explained.

Muhammad knew that he plagiarized the Torah, Psalms and Gospels that was why he directed you to those books for proper understanding of what he told you because without those books most stories in the Quran can't be understood, and he was also exonerating himself in a way. So that on day of judgement when you're giving excuses that Muhammad was the one that misled you, Muhammad would simply tell you that he had instructed you to find out the truth by yourself


Now let me teach you.

"My Lord, grant me [a child] from among the righteous."
(QS. As-Saaffaat 37: Verse 100)

This is the Explanation :

Genesis 15
Verse 1 : Some time later, the Lord spoke to Abram in a vision and said to him, “Do not be afraid, Abram, for I will protect you, and your reward will be great.”

2. But Abram replied, “O Sovereign Lord, what good are all your blessings when I don’t even have a son? Since you’ve given me no children, Eliezer of Damascus, a servant in my household, will inherit all my wealth.

4. Then the Lord said to him, “No, your servant will not be your heir, for you will have a son of your own who will be your heir.”


But Sarah decided to help God by giving her maid, Hagar to Abraham because Sarah felt she was too old to have a child.

Genesis 16:1-2
Now Sarai, Abram’s wife, had not been able to bear children for him. But she had an Egyptian servant named Hagar.
So Sarai said to Abram, “The Lord has prevented me from having children. Go and sleep with my servant. Perhaps I can have children through her.” And Abram agreed with Sarai’s proposal.

But when Hagar got pregnant for Abraham, she began to treat Sarah in contempt and Sarah reported to Abraham who then asked Sarah to deal with Hagar as she liked since Hagar was her maid. Sarah then sent Hagar away and the Angel of the Lord saw Hagar and instructed her to go back and submit to the authority of Sarah her mistress and the Angel of the Lord told Hagar that the child in her womb will be called Ishmael and that

"This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.”

Perfect description of Muhammad, a wild man, untamed and in open hostility against his relatives the descendants of Isaac(Israel)
-Genesis 16:5-12

Now, God brought the good tidings of Isaac by telling Abraham that Sarah would have a child

Genesis 17:15-22
Then God said to Abraham, “Regarding Sarai, your wife—her name will no longer be Sarai. From now on her name will be Sarah.
And I will bless her and give you a son from her! Yes, I will bless her richly, and she will become the mother of many nations. Kings of nations will be among her descendants.”


Then Abraham bowed down to the ground, but he laughed to himself in disbelief. “How could I become a father at the age of 100?” he thought. “And how can Sarah have a baby when she is ninety years old?”

Then Abraham wanted to help God again by saying God should simply bless Ishmael instead of trying to give Sarah a child at that very old age.

But God replied, “No—Sarah, your wife, will give birth to a son for you. You will name him Isaac, and I will confirm my covenant with him and his descendants as an everlasting covenant.

He said He will bless Ishmael too but his covenant will be with Isaac.

Now on the issue of Sarah's laughter.

Genesis 18:10-14

Then one of them said, “I will return to you about this time next year, and your wife, Sarah, will have a son!” Sarah was listening to this conversation from the tent.

Abraham and Sarah were both very old by this time, and Sarah was long past the age of having children.

So she laughed silently to herself and said, “How could a worn-out woman like me enjoy such pleasure, especially when my master—my husband—is also so old?”

Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh? Why did she say, ‘Can an old woman like me have a baby?’

Is anything too hard for the Lord? I will return about this time next year, and Sarah will have a son.”


Genesis 21:1-3
The Lord kept his word and did for Sarah exactly what he had promised.

She became pregnant, and she gave birth to a son for Abraham in his old age. This happened at just the time God had said it would.
And Abraham named their son Isaac.

Later, Ishmael was making fun of Isaac and Sarah saw him and asked Abraham to send Hagar and Ishmael away and that was how they left Abraham's house leaving Abraham with only Isaac as the only Son in his house, long before Abraham was instructed to sacrifice Isaac.

Now, the Bible was clear on whom Abraham was to sacrifice

Genesis 22:2

“Take your son, your only son—yes, Isaac, whom you love so much—and go to the land of Moriah. Go and sacrifice him as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will show you.”

They always seem to misplace the verse that says Isaac was the chosen child

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Islam for Muslims / Re: The Takbeer And When To Say It. by fortran12: 9:59am On Jul 31, 2020
Collect beer
Take beer

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Health / Re: Dr Stella Immanuel COVID19 Hydroxychloroquine Video Deleted By Facebook, Twitter by fortran12: 9:30pm On Jul 28, 2020
chris51:


This Dr Stella Immanuel is not a Nigerian. She is a Camerounian that schooled in Nigeria.

That's why many Nigerians are annoyed. Why didn't she mention her country?
She may have double citizenship
Health / Re: Dr. Stella Emmanuel On COVID-19: 'With Hydroxychloroquine I Cured 350 Patients' by fortran12: 2:19pm On Jul 28, 2020
saajus:
Several clinical trials have been conducted on hydroxylchloroquine and it has a mixed result. People are dying of COVID-19 in Nigeria and we've been applying hydroxylchloroquine for the past couple of months. So, she might not be 100% correct.

I did a little background check on her now and discovered she's a very active Pastor. I guess she might be in the group of all these Conspiracy Theory Pastors. Most of those Pastors love Trump and her message could politically motivated. Guys, remember we still dey settle Madasgacar COVID organics.
So it's now a crime to be a pastor?
Religion / Re: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by fortran12: 4:33pm On Jul 27, 2020
OtemAtum:
That is a big fat lie. Funny enough, if you go to other planets of the universes where humanlike beings are living, they also do things like we are currently doing and they don't have any Adam and Eve there. The first humans on earth are not Adam and Eve and the behaviours or humans are not caused by one homosapiens mythical Adam and Eve. Read the Book of Universal History to find out the truth.

Which book is that? What proof do u have there are humanoids in other planets?
Religion / Re: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by fortran12: 4:29pm On Jul 27, 2020
OtemAtum:
That is a big fat lie. Funny enough, if you go to other planets of the universes where humanlike beings are living, they also do things like we are currently doing and they don't have any Adam and Eve there. The first humans on earth are not Adam and Eve and the behaviours or humans are not caused by one homosapiens mythical Adam and Eve. Read the Book of Universal History to find out the truth.
What is your proof?
Religion / Re: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by fortran12: 12:50pm On Jul 27, 2020
OtemAtum:

As a matter of fact, the Totality of Everything In Existence is God. We do not have any argument from that angle. My argument is that the concept of sin brought to the world through Adam and Eve is false.
What Adam adam and Eve caused was sin to come into the world via the devil and this enabled the nature of sin in humans. The the sinful nature that causes people to fight etc . people are sinners cos of the nature of sin. The sins are just a result of the sinful nature.
Doing good deeds does not remove the nature. Its faith in a sinless one that changes the nature. That is where Jesus comes in.
You mention Jesus was fictitious whn there is more evidence to support his life than other prominent people like Julius Caesar
Religion / Re: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by fortran12: 11:27am On Jul 27, 2020
OtemAtum:
What are the things you guys call sins?

Adultery, fornication, fighting, etc?
They said that it is Adam and Eve that committed sin and brought it to all other humans. So explain how all animals also commit fornication and fight.

Fighting, Sex etc are supposed to be nature of animals and humans right from origin, because of our emotions and differences. We didn't get it because of any cocky story in any holy book. We can only try to do without those things if we lay a principle to follow.

For you to know that these things are not brought to us by any sin, how come some humanists, moralists, atheists, Chinese monks etc who are not Christians and do not even know anything about nature of sin and the death of fictitious Jesus for their sins still manage not to fight and commit fornication? This is because they lay down a principle for themselves to follow.
The concept of sin is a big scam.
You mention they lay down principle to live by? Who is the source of this principle? Where is it gotten from?
Morality has a source and its from God.
Religion / Re: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by fortran12: 12:24am On Jul 27, 2020
sotall:


You dont deserve a reply.

Bye

The statement is too complex for you? Sorry.
Religion / Re: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by fortran12: 12:23am On Jul 27, 2020
OtemAtum:
There's nothing like nature of Sin. That's a lie sold to you by Jehovah's false philosophy.
Lol. Prove it
Religion / Re: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by fortran12: 2:39pm On Jul 26, 2020
OtemAtum:
Use your brain and do good to humanity. Homo Sapiens III 15:12
The nature of sin has no relationship to doing good.
Religion / Re: The Right Way To Preach About Hell - Milton Goh by fortran12: 2:38pm On Jul 26, 2020
sotall:
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Trash!

Religion thrives on fear.

It is ridiculous to think a God that you haven't seen will throw u into hell because you didn't obey him. This is the exact reason I decided to stay far away from the religion.

Teaching absurd nonsense
You did not read through the text. There is no where it says its God that throws u in hell. You are on your way there, God only provided a solution
Crime / Re: Video Of A Lady Arrested By Ibadan Police Goes Viral by fortran12: 6:28pm On Jul 23, 2020
tollyboy5:

Bunch of hypocrite when a guy is been arrested all the friends with him presently will arrested.
Tell me your friend I'll tell you whom you are. Some question are irrelivant but she know what he dong a beg.
You have no proof
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Council Tells Muslims When To Expect New Moon by fortran12: 8:41pm On Jul 21, 2020
Xposed2020:

Its like you are stylishly asking a question without taking your word as your bond. grin
When you are ready let me know
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Council Tells Muslims When To Expect New Moon by fortran12: 4:58pm On Jul 21, 2020
Xposed2020:

Show me proof they were not.
Besides we need to finish what we started.
The onus is on the one making the claim. So am waiting.
We will finish whn we agree to ask questions one after the other
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Council Tells Muslims When To Expect New Moon by fortran12: 4:45pm On Jul 21, 2020
Xposed2020:

Just as Jesus, Mother Mary, Joseph the carpenter were.
Lol. You have come again. Show me proof they were.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islamic Council Tells Muslims When To Expect New Moon by fortran12: 5:07pm On Jul 20, 2020
Auwm1:
Qur'an 41:37
...Do not prostrate to the Sun and the Moon but prostrate to Allah(GOD) who created them,if it is Him you wish to serve. So how do Muslims worship the Moon in anyway please?
Mohammed was once a pagan

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Islam for Muslims / Re: 4 Prayers To Increase You In Knowledge In Islam by fortran12: 1:08pm On Jul 17, 2020
Heistman:
u for just pass na
It was too tempting

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Islam for Muslims / Re: 4 Prayers To Increase You In Knowledge In Islam by fortran12: 11:44am On Jul 17, 2020
Which knowledge does the book or religion have? Knowledge like camel urine, fly's wings and poison, washing with sand etc

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Sports / Re: 12-Year-Old Boy's Racist Messages To Wilfried Zaha by fortran12: 4:41pm On Jul 13, 2020
mdchikezie:


AND WHO DOESN'T KILL THEMSELVES ?
IN YOUR SO CALLED AMERICA, WHITES DONT KILL WHITES?
The black rate is astronomical. On 4th July, 99 people were shot in Chicago. Think about that
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is Shayton Also Whispering In Your Ear? Read This And Beware! by fortran12: 11:14am On Jul 03, 2020
Am sure he controlled the prophet into making the satanic verses

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Education / Re: Lagos To Give 10,000 Radio Sets To Pupils For Homeschooling by fortran12: 2:58pm On Jul 01, 2020
NLReposter:
Everything about our government is "To"

To do this
To do that


Frausters
I will like to see has done or just did , finished, completed. All the journalists too who hardly followup on stories.
Science/Technology / Re: 16th-Century Child Skeletons With Coins In Their Mouths Found In Poland (Graphic by fortran12: 1:13am On Jul 01, 2020
nextstep:
I don't have any answers, and I don't want to insult any religion, because these are beliefs deeply held by people; I just wish people would realize that other faiths are just as valid as theirs - because there's no real objective difference.
Look well you will see the differences
Science/Technology / Re: 16th-Century Child Skeletons With Coins In Their Mouths Found In Poland (Graphic by fortran12: 10:09pm On Jun 30, 2020
nextstep:


So have the different parchments and writings by Egyptians - their writings span from before 4000BC to around 30BC (a span of nearly 4000 years) by lots of authors. As for the Maya, their writings span from around 2000BC to 1700AD (3,700 years).
Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Shintoism, among others, predate Christianity, and are collectively still practiced by nearly 3 billion people. I really doubt the Christian pantheon is the sole right answer to humanity's questions of: "who are we; why are we here; what's our purpose?"

Here's a breakdown based on a wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations

31.4% Christianity
23.2% Islam
15.4% Hinduism
7.1% Buddhism
22.9% Unaffiliated/Other


It's awful rich for just over 30% of the population to insist their way is the true way, and condemn the remaining 70%. Just live and let live, because we're all asking the same questions about Existence, and have come up with different ways to answer them.
The message of Christianity is different from the rest. Its the only one that gives hope. The rest asks you to save yourself by performing certain rituals. Christianity says otherwise
Science/Technology / Re: 16th-Century Child Skeletons With Coins In Their Mouths Found In Poland (Graphic by fortran12: 5:21pm On Jun 30, 2020
nextstep:



According to one book. There have been many myths, carvings, paintings, tablets, and books, in human history - each of them confident in their correctness. There will be more after we are long gone. What guarantee does anyone have that this one, this time, is the right one?
Only one has several books written at different periods talk about the same subject
Culture / Re: Christie Sells Nigerian Statues Of Igbo Deities That Were Looted by fortran12: 11:03am On Jun 30, 2020
mondbest:
They took away our culture, our pride, our precious goldmine and gave us religion, tribalism, hate, corruption and still blame us for everything
All humans have the latter mentioned in-born.
Health / Re: 566 New COVID-19 Cases, 395 Discharged And 8 Deaths On June 29 - (1953 Tested) by fortran12: 1:33am On Jun 30, 2020
TOPCRUISE:
This is beyond human comprehension. Despite the temporary ban on some activities involving public gathering that pay attention to social distancing the number still gets increasing
Who said the solution is restricting some activities? Some countries are working on vaccine to treat the virus , Nigeria is waiting to buy

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