ChinenyeN:

You're all kinds of wrong for the bolded. The general human intellectual capacity is the same across the board. On the topic of technological development, the most significant factor is diffusion. The advancements that we see now today, are nothing more than simple ideas which diffused from a point and later evolved (as in, had other simple ideas added on to them). Diffusion is what allowed for the kind of technological advancement we witness today. Without such diffusion, then much of the world would also be like Africa (which got into the diffusion game rather late).

To respond to the initial posting, colonialism definitely has its advantages, but it also disadvantaged Africa[ns] (to be specific).

So you agree that Africans lack capacity or Europeans had more capacity "early on in the game"

dont over simplify this guy. The question is, did the man have a point if we are to be honest with ourselves? the fact that he says europeans gained little from colonialism and that africans gained more that europeans did as a result of the contact between the two. look all the human development indices before and after european contact, he said africans gained a much higher standard of living due to contact with europeans, is he right

intellectual capacity as in- The wheel is said to be the mother of invention and innovation of mankind. All inventions and technology began with the simple concept of the wheel when it was first invented some 5 thousand years ago. What friedman was saying was that some Africans had not individually or within their own group figured out the concept of a "wheel" let alone any other type of technology. This means they lack the capacity to develop and evolve on their own. This is what he implied.

Beaf:

At the time the Portuguese came to West Africa, there was no difference in technological advancement. The Europeans of the time were especially baffled by West African technologies; a great example is our brand of cire perdue (lost-wax casting); a casting technique that overshadowed anything similar in Europe of that period; they were baffled by the fact that both the Edo and Ife peoples could cast copper to incredible detail and thinness of cross section. It was an impossibility in Europe of the time; copper is a metal a very reactive metal is almost impossible to cast, talkless of the fine achievements of Benin and Ife. Today, we have no such technological edge in any field.

Did we lose from contact with Europeans? . . .The answer is quite glaring.
Slavery and negative contact with Europeans are the main factors in our past that have contributed todays low self esteem, poverty and under-development.

As much as id like to believe you, i think what they found baffling was that blacks had attained that level of metallurgic sophistication. Not because Benin or Ife had better technology. Thats just not true, Europeans were way ahead of us in a general sense. your argument is a fallacy actually since you're implying that skill in bronze casting etc translates to the same level of general technological advancement which is not true. Your inductive line of reasoning is flawed. Fact is they had guns and were able to colonize us. They were by far more advanced.

EzeUche22:

It depends on the part of the continent. We Africans are not truly a one united monolithic people. We are made up different cultures, languages, religions and heritages. Some of us had the wheel while others didn't. Some had bronze making capability while others didn't. The bushmen of Southern Africa did not have these tools yet the Zulu did and live in the same region.

Ok but the principle of what he's saying isn't changed by what you just said, Africans gained from European contact and African poverty is a direct result of their own lack of intellectual capacity. This in a nut shell is what he was saying, The wheel being an example of the lack of capacity which is related to poverty. He implied that it cost Europeans more to maintain colonies. In other words, if they were businesses then colonialism would be written as a loss to the europeans.

So the over flogged argument that Europeans stole and pillaged the African continent is baseless in this esteemed economist's view. DO you think Africans gained or lost from contact with Europeans

He said some parts of Africa had not invented the WHEEL by the 19th century. Meaning that Africans had no capacity to develop which is why we're poor and Europeans wealthy. African contact with Europe improved Africans living standard. Do you buy this??

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Embattled former Governor of Delta State, Chief James Ibori, is suffering from an undisclosed ailment for which he has been hospitalised in Dubai, United Arab Emirates.


He was said to have broken down in prison custody a few days ago and taken to the hospital where he was said to be responding to treatment.


The Chairman, Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, Mrs. Farida Waziri, disclosed this when fielding questions from journalists at the commission‘s headquarters, Abuja, on Friday.


The occasion was the visit by the Central Planning Committee for Nigeria at 50, Women and Children Special Events.


The group was led by the President, National Council for Women Society, Mrs. Ramatu Usman, who is also the chairperson of the planning committee.


The visitors announced that the EFCC boss would be conferred with the award of ”Nigerian Golden Amazon” in the ”Most Outstanding Female Public Servant” category during Nigeria‘s 50th anniversary in October.


Usman said Queen Elizabeth of England and the First Lady, Mrs. Patience Jonathan, would present the award to underscore its importance and that of the Yeoman‘s job Waziri had been doing.


Farida said that the extradition of Ibori was on course, given the continued collaboration between the EFCC and the London Metropolitan Police over the matter.


She said, ”Ibori is in a hospital in Dubai, but the process for his extradition is ongoing. We are working and exchanging information with the Met.


”The process is long. Some Met police are even coming here soon in this regard. He will be extradited to London soon to face trial.”


Ibori fled the country after the EFCC issued a warrant for his arrest, following his refusal to honour an invitation to answer charges that he misused state funds for personal gains.


The former governor was arrested in Dubai on May 12, on the strength of an international arrest warrant issued by INTERPOL, but got a reprieve when the court granted him bail.


The bail was, however, revoked, on June 9, as an aftermath of the conviction of the ex-governor‘s sister, Mrs. Christine Ibori-Ibie and his associate, Miss. Udoamaka Okoronkwo by a London court.



http://www.punchng.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art201008142105048

Theres no such thing as core north and middle belt, its just north!!! believe it or not, the north is one bloc. Whatever the core north says, the middle belt will follow, its always been like that, the core north agreed to MKO and the "middle belt" followed, the core north agreed to Obasanjo and the 'middle belt followed" Whether you like it or not, the core north as far as nigerian politics is concerned is a major factor. you cannot be a president in nigeria without the core north's support, as much as you'd want to erode the power they have, just face reality. The core north, your sokotos and kanos run Nigerian national politics. Its always been that way, Don't forget we're talking about the same people that waged a war of conquest from sokoto all the way to oyo, swallowing kwara in the process and "emiratizing" it.
Why many southerners choose to look down and degrade northerners baffles me.

In all instances, you'll notice the resemblance thats if you're not die hard white lovers like sage or ezeagu!! furthermore, white is a disease, take a look at the gentleman who is turning white due to a medical condition after taking pills for his liver problem, I have never heard of a disease that turns you black but one sure does turn you white

Look at the boys eyes, and study some ancient egyptian self depicting art. Look at the girls hair style and her features as well and then look at ancient egyptians.

with regards to ancient egyptians, if you look at their depiction of themselves very well, if you study the art and examine the facial features as well as the color they paint themselves, you'll see that they closely resemble the beja people, very close resemblance. The beja are a people that live in northern Sudan today, they are an ancient people

Onlytruth:

The picture is clearer now.
I was alarmed initially that the president may have his hands on too many pies, especially as relates to private enterprise. That would be alarming indeed.

While they are at it, they must not forget that this woman built that exchange from under $2 billion in 1999 to over $100 billion last year.

My fear is that they would replace her with another Malam, and before you know it, the exchange would cease to be itself.
Not saying that we should tolerate crime, but I'm yet to see why Soludo was replaced with Sanusi.
I've followed Nigerian leadership history long enough to know that merit is alien to us. If by pure chance we get one ingenious leader in a position, like Ernest Ndukwe of NCC and this woman at NSE, why should we always scheme to oust them, only to replace them with mediocres?
I'm watching this one.
NO MALAM REPLACEMENTS PLEASE!

YOU are a bigoted fool, a complete idiot and waste of space! Northerners or people you like to call "malams" which funny enough means scholar, are some of the best business people in Nigeria, You have your Dantata's and Dangote's and Chanchangi's and a million others some of them didn't even go through western education but are billionaires in their fields of commerce. Its sad that you think this way because Dangote is a northerner and his company employs more southerners than northerners which goes to show you his detribalized attitude. He can easily turn it into a sectional firm.
I think southerners really need to get their heads out of their arses and quit ignorantly stereotyping northerners. Its getting old and its really ignorant.

How come northerners have ruled Nigeria for most of its existence if they're fools as you like to believe. Hausa people are descendent's of ancient Nubians in case you didn't know. YOU are a sad fool. No mallams, since its your father that owns SEC, bafoon.

tkb417:

This guy

they shd stamp error on your certificate

cos one individual is rich means the country has achieved?

i said give me a feat recorded by the country called Sudan and u typed that thing

what should i call you? dundee?

So what has Nigeria ever "achieved" The fact is, there are more Nigerians (way more) that go for their university education in Sudan than there are Sudanese people who visit Nigeria for any given reason!! They don't have a broken education system like your own country, which attracts your citizens to their country, that in itself is "achievement"
Secondly, why do Nigerians have this need to look down on other African countries? Imagine the posts here, what are they doing in Sudan? are they UN peace keepers? Nigerians are an ignorant set of people, Sudan is better than Nigeria, Ive been there and they have better electricity and water supply than Nigeria, Their govt caters for their people and They don't have have nearly as much govt CORRUPTION as Nigeria, that is commendable!! Sudanese people are very patriotic too!!

manny4life:

And, ? What are you trying to say?

And your point is?

My point: Sudan is not as impoverished as many of us would like to believe
               Khartoum is actually a beautiful city
               From my experience going there, You find the 3 main Nigerian tribes living there, Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba


The Hausa go there either for transit on to Saudi Arabia, or begging on the streets or students
The Igbo for trading/hustling and transit point to other parts of the world
The yoruba are students since their universities dont have strike and are very good schools, no wonder!

So Don't be too bumbed out if they're deporting Nigerians coz Nigeria has nothing on Sudan really.

sudanese girls

more

These are some pictures of Khartoum, the capital of sudan

You know what? I think politically speaking, Nigeria is at the level of medieval Europe as far as political development and general mentality is concerned. Then, the had rigid hierarchical class systems, same in Nigeria today. You had the Royals at the top, the nobles, the serfs etc. Even then, a serf could rise to be a noble but the chances were slim and this individual would face mockery from peers with "noble blood"

Nigeria is an epitome of "REVOLVING DOOR" politics:

Musa Yar'adua- Minister of Lagos Affairs, first republic
Shehu Musa Yar'adua- Chief of Staff, Supreme headquarters, effectively vice president (his dad was minister)
Umaru Musa Yar'adua- Governor then President of Nigeria- (his blood brother was vice president)
Murtala Shehu Yar'adua- Minister of state, Defense (his father was vice president)

A governor today is a senator tomorrow and vice versa, the door keeps revolving!!!
Some people just have it in their blood, to rule is simply in the blood!!!
There are many examples of families all interconnected or siblings who are all in top positions in the country!

nat138:



I want to believe that some of these figures are cooked up and not real, is the NPC crazy
how on earth can states like Jigawa, Borno, Zamfara, Kastina and all those others end up
with such high figures, were the cows/goats/sheep and trees in those states also counted along
side human beings?
As for IBB he is a goner, even if the elections are rigged and he succeeds in becoming the president,
he will DIE in no time, pls someone should remind of almighty Abacha incase his shallow brain has forgotten so soon.
And for the IDIOTS that are supporting him, they should go on, the little naira notes they are given will not be used for any reasonable venture, it will vanish like a whirlwind.

When guy are marrying four wives with each wife having more than five kids, how wont their population be that much[color=#990000][/color]

I have my sources. But this is just the tip of the Iceberg. All elite in Nigeria are married to each other especially in the North where oligarchies dominate

Col. Sani Bello, who is the current chairman of MTN and amni oil and gas and also former governor of Kano state son's are married to Dangote and abdulsalam abubakar (former head of state)
Sani zangon daura, former minister of Agriculture is married to Yar'adua's younger sister.

Have you heard the term civil service marriage? Check this one out. Daughter of Nu’uman Barau Dambatta, a Federal Permanent Secretary is married to the son of Abubakar Mustapha, Kaduna State Head of the Civil Service. Former Minister of Power and Steel and younger brother of the influential Kano-based AVM Mukhtar Mohammed,chairman of the popular Freedom Radio, Kano, Bashir Dalhatu is married to the daughter of the late General Sani Abacha, Zainab, while her elder brother, Mohammed Abacha is married to the daughter of the late Brigadier-General Umaru Mohammed from Hadejia, Jigawa State.

Says Minister Lobbied For Anambra PDP Ticket


The politics of ego between former Central Bank Governor, Chukwuma Soludo, and Information and Communications Minister, Dora Akunyili, got messier on Monday with the disclosure by Soludo that she had failed to persuade the late President Umaru Yar’Adua to anoint her the consensus candidate in the Anambra State Governorship poll on February 6.

This is why the woman is fighting me, he alleged.

Soludo also narrated how Akunyili and Turai Yar’Adua fell out after the former First Lady refused to influence her husband to ‘anoint’ her the candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), a ticket 47 people vied for.

A statement issued by Soludo’s Media Assistant, Bonaventure Melah, said Akunyili was the clandestine “48th aspirant” who did not have the courage to resign her job as Minister and face the people through the primaries.

“She rather devoted all her energies to lobbying (Yar’Adua) to appoint her as ‘the consensus candidate’ – and there are several witnesses and evidence to this fact.

“Since she lost the nomination to Soludo, she has never spared any opportunity to vent her bitterness. Most politicians know that Dora has negative electoral value in Anambra and cannot ‘make’ a Councillor let alone a legislator.

“Indeed, Dora knows that any candidate who publicly associates with her will lose election in Anambra. To ascribe to herself any influence whatsoever in the making of a Governor smacks of a huge dose of delusion!”

Soludo said he was reacting to the “outlandish and childish accusations” levelled by Akunyili that his thugs prevented her from attending her sister’s funeral and also followed her to her father’s village in Nanka.

She alleged that Soludo was probably angry with her because she could not make him Anambra Governor.

He noted that while her intention could be her usual “infantile propaganda,” the allegations are weighty enough to warrant a response.

He said the aspect of Akunyili’s allegations that sounded childish was the futile attempt to link the Governorship election to her imaginary threats.

The statement added: “It should be noted that Dora Akunyili’s allegations were made at a ‘press conference’ called several days after the burial/funeral ceremonies.

“Is it not curious that (she) who attended the burial/funeral with blaring sirens and a horde of heavily armed policemen and SSS (State Security Service) personnel would be attacked by ‘thugs’ who also chased her to her village, and to date, there has been no formal report of the incidents or threats in any police station, and there was no arrest of any of the ‘thugs’.

“We only read about ‘thugs’ on the pages of newspapers. Or, was Dora Akunyili referring to the over 8,000 guests and politicians from all the 21 local government areas in Anambra who came to condole with Soludo as the PDP flag bearer in Anambra as thugs?”

Soludo said it is recorded on tape that Akunyili praised him in church for taking care of her sister and announced that all those who had come for her and her family would be entertained at her father’s compound in Nanka.

“Were the thugs chasing her before or after the praises and announcement at the church service? From the church, she joined the thousands of people to walk all the way to the sister’s compound and personally observed the burial.

“After that, she again personally caused a public announcement to be made to the effect that her guests should follow her to Nanka (as the custom demands).

“There is a video tape of her activities, with her acknowledging greetings after the burial until she entered her car. When did the thugs come in and only Dora Akunyili (out of the thousands that attended) saw them? You can fool some people some of the time but never all the people all the time!”

According to Soludo, what makes the allegation laughable is that one of his major contributions to Anambra and Nigerian politics is his insistence on non-violence and absence of thuggery.

He said it is on record that during the Governorship vote, about 400 thugs were arrested and none was from the PDP, which is the new politics he is spearheading.

“Furthermore, to imagine that Soludo who was deeply mourning the death of his beloved mother- in-law (whom he described as his own mother) would organise thugs to disrupt the funeral which he personally organised says volumes about how far Dora’s fertile mind could go in concocting imaginary threats.

“Anyway, Nigerians are used to the crocodile tears and faked threats – all in attempts to woo public sympathy. Dora is taking her propagandist skills rather too far!”

Soludo alleged that Akunyili knows more than she is willing to tell the public, knows about her age-long quarrels “as usual” with members of her family and her elder sister.

He said her age-long quarrels with her late sister are also public knowledge, and that her late sister personally told her stories to lots of people in Anambra several years back.

“They had nothing to do with neither Soludo nor the 2010 elections. Dora did not talk about her desperate attempts to disrupt the burial/funeral by attempting to organise a parallel funeral site beside her sister’s compound (which is an abomination).

“She did not talk about the fact that the traditional ruler, the community and her own kindred resisted her abominable act, reported in Tribune and Daily Independent on July 17.”

Soludo said he is aware that “she decided to concoct the stories and go on the offensive after the newspaper reports clearly indicted her. She had to find a fall guy, and of course her phobia for Soludo provided the convenient alibi.”

He, however, vowed to resist any attempt to drag him into Akunyili’s unending quarrels with her family, nephews and nieces.

He recalled that he was the first to congratulate Governor Peter Obi after the election, to demonstrate “a rare sense of sportsmanship uncommon in this part of the world.”

He said he has since reconciled with all the major political gladiators in Anambra, and they were all in his village to condole with him during the funeral.

“Akunyili should find another excuse to explain her abominable acts during her sister’s burial/funeral. She has misfired in this one!”


Source (daily independent) http://odili.net/news/source/2010/jul/27/400.html

Beaf:

^
Carry your fear go anoda place jare!
There is nothing like "the North", it doesn't exist; just as much as "the South" doesn't exist. The politics of the day keeps showing it over and over, the hostilities in Plateau and Adamawa keep emphasising it, the Middle Belt keeps screaming that they have been conned and cheated. . .

IBB is more likely to end up in jail, than he is to becoming a presidential candidate, talkless of president.

You must not know the north, it'll always stay as one, northerners have strong bonds, even in adamawa, you should go and see the way fulani people live with christian minorities, peacfully! A christian minority from the north would rather see a hausa speaking northern president than jonathan, after all, who is he closer to, the hausa fulani man or the ijaw man?? most of these christian minorities speak hausa as a first language!!

I've figured out your tricks, you and a seemingly aggressive southern media want to use the divide and conquer tactic to break the north's political power by insisting on separate identities for different groups in the north. IT WON'T WORK! IT CANT WORK

In the south, or south south per say, you have this problem of ethnic nationalities, ijaw, urhobo, itsekiri etc there are no "ethnic" nationalities in the north, See, I'll let you in on a little secret, in your history, you had little contact with each other, and when you did, it was conflict driven which is why you have thing like IJAW NATION, in the north, its just Arewa which in Hausa means North (all inclusive) Also The hausa fulani had extensive contact with the minorities in the region and a social order was established long before European contact so everyone knows the history and knows and accepts the hausa fulani people as the dominant group in the region, they've overlorded the area (up to Kogi, Okenne etc) for centuries and you feel your divide and conquer move will upturn all that history? That is naiveté of the highest order. The truth is, even the "middle belters have assumed a northern identity, in Jos their monarchy is based on the emirate system, they wear the clothes you find on any northerners back, the same type of caps, they eat the same food. Mr. Beaf, food for thought!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v32CkzCqcyo&feature=related


twins, one black the other white

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGZVG4_upDo

for all the people saying the mother went behind the guys back, how about the case of the two "white" apartheid supporting parents in south africa who gave birth to a black baby.

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Donald Duke is the former governor of cross rivers state.