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Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 2:46am On Aug 10, 2008 |
@tpia, i have no time to write an essay for you, i magined nairaland enthusiasts possessed the intuition and imagination to read through something informal, to me, this is informal stuff so i dont have to write to you like im seeking a contract. People on here write in pidgeon english, i dont think you have a problem with that, do you? But please say something that has substance, it is not enough for you to come and say "i dont have your time, but if i did, blah blah blah" say what you have to say if you have anything to say that is. Saudi is an example i gave you so that you can see the positives of sharia. Like i was saying, that society is crime free, almost non existent. Just an example, now compare that to the US or UK where murders take place every half hour, rape is rampant, theft and robbery everywhere, con men doing their tricks, injustice, depression, alcohol abuse, just all out madness and craziness. Look at Saudi, where the murder rate is 2.8 in 100,000 people, in the US alone, the murder rate is 3808 in 100,000 people. So bros, do you catch my drift SO theres no brainwasing here, im giving you hard facts and a brief comparitive societal analysis in the area of crime and social vice. The US is supposed to possess the greatest and most magnificient legal code and constitution in the world. One that ensures freedom right? with such a perfect system, why are there so many imperfections? Its almost like southerners worship the US, its sad @Texcee, I hope you realize that Niger, Benue, kaduna and kogi are all northern states, thus, incase of a cessation of any region, those states would remain part of the north, on the benue license plate, it says "food basket of the nation" right? guess what, benue is the north. Furthermore, your stats are completely bogus. I dont beleive them one bit, food production in Nigeria is not distributed like that, maybe if you were talking to an uneducated person then i'd beleive you. But going by the stats you presented, the southern production of millet and sorghum is non existent just as that of yams and cassava in the upper north is, this is a climate issue not production. Are those the only food groups you can come up with?? The north has a strong monopoly on sugar and flour production/importation. even cement, northerners own the bulk of its production. Stop assuming that you can breeze through creation of a stable nation without the north. If Nigeria breaks apart, all regions will suffer because the dynamics of the economy are so intertwined, It'll be like a divorce from a 45 yr marriage that produced 5 children where both parents worked and built their home together (purchased/paid for everything with nearly equal contribution) just that maybe the father earned more money. And they're trying to separate and divide everything including the children, both will suffer. Thats how you should see it. If you had been reading my posts, you'd have realized that the north may not be at par with you in western education but that doesnt mean the north isint educated islamically which is what they used to conquer your land and implant Islam in OYO kingdom which was truly a blessing for that place. dont over-focus on western education, what is education acquisition of skill abi?? or knowledge, ehen, so does knowledge or skill come from only one source?? THINK, with northern lack of education, why do they have a hold on nigerian politics?? instead of the more educated yorubas?and obasanjo is sooooo educated by virtue of him being yoruba isint he?? |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 10:33pm On Aug 09, 2008 |
@deepzone, better for you to say something that makes sense, something that has substance, something that counters my argument than advising me to get help, do you have anything to say i doubt it. It is true that the hausa/fulani conquered yorubaland, it is true that the British left the country in the hands of the hausa/fulani when they were leaving in the late 50's, it is true that the north has produced the bulk of nigeria's leaders and it is true that the northerners comprises the bulk of the elite in nigeria, it is also true that the wealthiest black man in the world is a northern nigerian (hausa man from kano) it is also true that 70% of nigerias wealthy are northerners, so when someone starts saying things like oh it is the yoruba that are the most educated and this or that and by implication,yorubas have some kind of hold on nigeria, it is proper for me to counter that line of thought, i actually beleive that yorubas are very educated and industrious like igbos and hausas, education is education whether western or non western, but it irks me when i see/hear/read yorubas calling hausa people maiguard or almajiri or aboki and other deragatory terms because they feel that they're "educated" (whatever that entails) no you should be calling us GCON, head of state, president, CEO since we have produced the babangidas, yar'aduas, dangote's, gambari's. i despise the yoruba condescending attitude towards northerners, when infact, the same northerners have been ruling you and have turned you into serfs with all your so called education, next time say something substantial. |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 10:07pm On Aug 09, 2008 |
@grafikdon, you're still guilty of the same thing, would you agree that you dont really know what something is about without learning it, then you'd have to learn what sharia is about to know what it entails, at least this should be agreeable to all. dont judge something that you dont yet know, Sharia applies to muslims not christians or people of other faiths but if we implement sharia in Nigeria, then naturally, christians and animists will see the beauty of it and convert to islam on their own, with no coersion. Many muslims in the world today saw the perfect islamic system which attracted them to it and made them convert to islam, you see my grandfather from my mothers side was a reverend father in nigeria, very hardcore christian and as a child i went to church and my fathers side are muslims so i can rightfully boast of knowing both sides and Islam is the true religion of God, but obviously you'd have to learn about it to know what im talking about. your knowledge at this time is apparently very insufficient, there is alot of emotional ranting in your posts but very little substance and objectivity. Islam is true justice and peace!!!when practiced sincerely (non politically). what im saying is you're not learned in the area of sharia, you're just going by reactions of those who are threatned by the justice of it and take a little piece of it that seems harsh and they manipulate people like you to think its nasty but you cant really know something if you go by a small portion as opposed to the whole picture. @tpia, yes im in the US and that doesnt make me a hypocrite one bit,im here for school and once im done ill go to nigeria and implement sharia for the whole country. Ive seen US law, studied it and i can attest that it is primitive and unjust, did you know a law in America once upon a time said if you're black and you get caught reading or learning how to read,you were to be executed.This was law (in the books), their law changes to suit the interests of the powerful or majority or popular sentiments or public opinion. American law is the purest form of hypocrisy. Sharia is prescribed in the Quran and can never be changed to suit somebody because it encompasses everything because it is divine. note that statutory laws may be created to suit the environment or contemporary problems but the core must remain "sharia". Whenever someone calls something barbaric then it means they dont know about it enough, nothing is barbaric, not even the lives and customs practiced by nomadic/tribal africans. It is beautiful in its own right. |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 12:25pm On Aug 09, 2008 |
@grafikdon, you dont seem to know much about sharia law, i dont think you know the wisdom of it and its effectiveness, you're simply going by popular "western" created myths about sharia, you have not said anything objective, what you have said is what you perceive about sharia law not what you know for a fact, you're not learned in sharia jurispundence, you have not discussed with a jurist so there is no way you can know what its all about, you blow the whole chopping of hands thing out of proportion without amply knowing the criteria for such to take place in the first place. Did you know that it is prohibited according to sharia law to cut off a robber's hand if that robber is hungry? i bet you didnt know, there are situations where stealing goes unpunishable, if you're gainfully employed and earn a decent amount of money as income that is sufficient enough to sustain you and you still steal out of greed, then it is permissable to cut off your hands as you have become a promoter of social vice and immorality. So you need to learn my friend, dont just come and talk rubbish. Sharia is a beautiful system. In Saudi Arabia, the crime rate is less than 1%, in the past 50 yrs, they've cut off less than 10 hands, crime is non existent there because of sharia. Do some research before you say something that exposes you utter ignorance. In a perfect sharia system, there is something called "zakkat" which is mandatory charity that is given to the needy in alms and it ensures the overall welfare of the needy, so poverty is non existent. Hunger is non existent. Our leaders in the north have implemented sharia haphazardly and for politically calculated gains. So unfortunately, you cannot really see the effect of this great system of law, i have seen and experienced american law in different angles,i was a student of US constitutional law and i can attest that Sharia is a perfect system in comparison, You need to do dig deeper, maybe do some research and get answers to specific questions, you'll have better insight and you wont judge a system that has existed in certain nations for over a thousand years off the top of your head, think about that, its been around in some societies for over a thousand years and has operated smoothly, if it was a cruel legal system, do you think it'd be around for that long? pls dont embarrass yourself, pls. |
Politics / Re: Make A Wish For Nigeria! by gadogado(m): 2:09am On Aug 09, 2008 |
implement sharia for the whole of nigeria, thats the only way it will be better. sharia law from lagos to enugu to kano. |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 1:50am On Aug 09, 2008 |
@davidylan, i dont know what agbero is ut as far as almajiri, those kids are part of a religious discipline, they practice living on the lowest means possible in order to be closer to God, there was a time in nigeria when they wanted to round all the almajiris up and put them in the police and army and the religious scholars came out against it, their argument was these kids practice a religious tradition of living through suffocating means in order to remain closer to God, some people say that being poor brings you closer to God, that their ideology. Like the monks in Asia, i also dont beleive that they should be on the streets but they should be left to live the way they want to, which is in poverty and alms. If you want to donate to them, there should be places you can go to do that,, they shouldnt be on the streets, BUT some of the people on nairaland dont know anything. If you implement sharia in the whole of Nigeria, it will be a better place, a better country, you just dont understand the wisdom of sharia coz you're not wise and learned in that area. but the whole of nigeria will transform into a great nation with sharia law. |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 1:41am On Aug 09, 2008 |
@debosky and Arnold1, the UN will say anything to make black people have a smaller population, or have it rabidly decrease hence the lab created virus of HIV, the west wants to finish Africa, thats why they have been causing wars, did you know the french were responsible for the rwandan genocide. They want us to have wars thats why the british created nigeria, ghana and sudan among others the way they did, to create a country and make it half muslim and half christian so that we will have wars and kill each other, they did the same to african americans in the US, they are busy killing each other, you know why, coz blacks are genetically dominant, in other words, our genes are dominant and theirs are recessive which is why they outlawed inter racial marriage in the US for nearly 400 years, till the 60's. If we mate with them over a period of time, their race will slowly diminish and disappear, they know this and they are working against you, thats why the polio drugs the UN brought to the north was meant to sterilize hausa men and make them impotent. if you dont know this then you're lost, they are busy attacking you from all angles, they want you to have a low population. they want you to be dying. they attack you with their trade policies and when you're broke from that, they offer you IMF loan with murderous interest rates to keep your currency weak and your economy low and they collude with you leaders, the evil ones, to steal your money and keep it in their country, the CIA funded Murtala mohammed's assassination and they didnt like abacha coz he had serious economic policies, did you know that through out the 5 year reign of abacha,the naira did not drop in value to the dollar, not by a single kobo, so if you want to be naive, do so, but me, i know,if you want to beleive rubbish UN statistics, go ahead but look at the history,why did they treat us that way!!!! Having many kids is a good thing, first you're expanding the kingdom of God, secondly, you are adding to your population therefore contributing to the pool of human resources in your nation. In Saudi, they have many kids too and they are doing just fine, my own grand dad had 30 or so kids and he is a northerner, never poor, what happened was the elder brothers provided for the little ones and this is still going on in 2008 (so much for your agrarian argument) if you're broke then you shouldnt have many kids at the same time but it wont matter if you space them out (family planning) if you have 25 kids over a period of 50 years then how can you say that its bad?? culture is everything, culture means way of life, how you do things within the family and community, in the northern context, the elder bros help the kids when the farther gets old, in nigerian culture(north + south) the kids take care of their parents when they get old, in american culture, the kids send their parents to degrading hospitals,clinics,nursing homes, retirement homes, old peoples homes,assisted living centers when they get old and they are mistreated and humiliated by strangers, culture is everything, as far as i know,in northern nigeria, families that have many kids,the elder bros take care of the kids and thats the culture, my uncles pays for the school fees of his younger brothers and the other uncle is responsible for the food and thats how our family life is, so poverty and many kids have nothing to do with each other in my culture, if you have 10 kids within 2 yrs then yes you'll go broke in no time but if its over time then no problem,it has no connection to poverty, dont give me any UN stats pls. |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 12:35am On Aug 09, 2008 |
@dayorx, its always funny when yorubas claim to have some superior intellectual capacity than other nigerians, if you are the most educated and thus by implication the most intellectual then why have you only produced 1 yoruba leader, Obasanjo is the only one and the both times he was president, he was only so because northerners backed him, without northerners, yorubas would not have produced a single yoruba leader, so wheres your education?, the thing is is, you have to look at history to know where you stand, was it not the hausa/fulani danfodio dynasty that conquered yoruba land, they took islam all the way to the heart of yoruba land i:e oyo kingdom and this happened some 2-3 hundered years ago, not much has changed, yorubas have never dreamt of invading the north, but the north invaded them, from illorin all the way to oyo and lagos thus establsihing islam in those areas. Northerners have always been more sophiticated and educated. Today yorubas are more educated (western) but you underestimate northerners but they used education (islamic) to conquer you and remain in power even after independence till today, yar'adua is authentic hausa/fulani. The same islamic education mind you led the arabs to conquer everything from indonesia to spain, romania and those parts of europe, dont underestimate islamic intellectualism. northerners are very educated (islamically). OBJ could have said he was going to hand over to an igbo man but he didnt, he knows his masters, he brought power back to the north. and the fact is, northerners will remain in power till the day nigeria disintergrates, this is the fact and if you want, watch and see. Look at the history!!!!through out history, yorubas have been fighting among themselves which is why the hausa/fulani empire conquered them. It will not stop anytime soon, The north however has always remained united coz of the culture. @Arnold1, i dont see having children as a cause of poverty in the north. people that have 1 child are just as poor as the one with 50 in the north. In saudi, they have many kids and they're doing fine. Poverty in Nigeria is caused by corruption. Bottom line!!! Not by having kids. In northern culture, a man with as much as 50 kids cannot have them at the same time so the eldest brothers end up becoming the parents of the youngest kids in terms of provision, thats they cycle. So there are many families with many kids and they're not in poverty and somone with fewer kids is even poorer, so your logic is flawed. |
Politics / Re: Juju In Nddc by gadogado(m): 12:15am On Aug 08, 2008 |
wow wow woooow, nigeria, hmmmm, God help those people |
Politics / Re: Juju In Nddc by gadogado(m): 12:14am On Aug 08, 2008 |
wow wow woooow, nigeira, hmmmm, God help those people |
Politics / Re: Ribadu Wanted For "Treason"! by gadogado(m): 12:04am On Aug 08, 2008 |
this news is not true at all, he was only demoted along with 139 other officers who were irregularly promoted, so if you went to police college with ribadu and you're a ACP while he was promoted from ACP to AIG in less than 5 yrs, what would you say or think? if you were his senior in the college and now you have to salute him, what will you say there are many many people in the police force that were either his course mates or seniors who were disgruntled over his rapid promotions, it lacked due process. and it was bad for over all morale of the police force. (officers) it is obj's fault!!! him and his jungle govt. that did things without rule of law, obj rewarded ribadu but he didnt go about it the proper way. obj was did some things like he was a village head and not a president of a civilized "democratic"country. there is always proper proceedure in doing things but obj totally disregarded that. |
Politics / Re: North Not A Parasite - Govs by gadogado(m): 4:30am On Aug 07, 2008 |
Also nijaking1, it is a fact that hausa fulani girls are the prettiest and most beautiful in the whole country, so intermarrying would be a good thing for your people, even the men are the most handsome, this is a simple fact, what are you even saying, hausa/fulani people are the prettiest, and fulani people are the prettiest in all the west African countires they're idigenous to, hope you knew that? that fulanis are not only nigerian, they're gambian,cameroonian,senegalese,malian,burkina faso,guinea,mauritania, as a matter of fact, in guinea, fulanis are the majority ethnic group, in all these countries, fulani beauty is acknowledged and admired and they're the prettiest west africans, there fulanis in sudan even, they all speak the same language although the dialects may differ, us Africans,if you dig deep, we're the same people, go 500 to 1000 yrs in history and you'll see. Im a student of history, thats why your ignorance is so shocking to me, ignorant people only cause problems everywhere you people are,you cause problems.pls go an learn. |
Politics / Re: North Not A Parasite - Govs by gadogado(m): 4:19am On Aug 07, 2008 |
@naijaking1, pls dont be stupid, inter-marrying is a unifying suggestion that can harnest understanding between the regions, there are many detribalized nigerians who have married from other regions, you're obviously ignorant and an illiterate because GONGOLA does not even exist, If you think there are more christians in the north, then you are mentally dimented and lack an ounce of common sense, thats why they say common sense is not so common, there are states in the north that are 100% muslim, i:e Zamfara, Sokoto, Katsina, Jigawa, etc, every state in the north has atleast a 20% muslim population, i:e benue, kogi. Adamawa and taraba although they have a sizeable christian population still have muslims as the majority. the christians in the north are about 15% of the total northern population, and im even being generous. The Hausa man that has 4 wives and 45 children is where the real population (in terms of raw numbers) is coming from, not the one wife christians. Kano is the most populous northern state not benue. Nupe's are majority muslims, Nupe's are more islamically hardcore than hausa's/fulani's, Also, supporter of APC, are you an idiot?you must be, what does that have to do with anything? The Fulani's waged a jihad on the hausa's not the other tribes.The fulanis conquered the hausa's and islamized them before intermarrying and becoming the same people hence hausa/fulani (same people) the others became muslims as a result of "da'wah" meaning preaching, the muslim tiv's were preached to, which is why they became muslims (some of them) so dont talk rubbish. Also, you're very ignorant, almajiris are the students that go to the local quranic schools, the very local ones and they live like the monks of asia, the ideology is to subsist on the lowest level and on the most limited means of survival in order to be closer to God. But you did not know this because you're stupid, there was a time when they wanted to round all almajiris up and put them in the police and army but their teachers (scholars) were against it and they are respected, the argument was ajmajiri lifestyle is a discipline, a tradition and a religious method of practising humility, although i agree that they should not be on the streets begging!! Obviously you dont know about the thousands of hausas that go to university in Saudi, Sudan, Egypt, you dont know, thousands of them!!!! they get degrees, masters, Ph.d's in islamic institutions, i can write more but you're not on my level, you have no insight and you are extremely ignorant so i'd rather not waste my time. |
Politics / Re: North Not A Parasite - Govs by gadogado(m): 2:09am On Aug 07, 2008 |
@papbrowne, hmm the richest black man in the world is a northerner, did you know that, a Kano indigine, amongst the top 50 wealthiest nigerians, 70% are northerners, politically, the north controls the country and has done so for a long time!! IBB and co still control a large stake of nigerian politics. Now here's where the problem is, it is religion, the north as a region is a conservative region (islamically) and as a result are very distrustful of the west and western ideology to include western education, the typical northerner will send his child to a quranic school at the primary level, by the secondary level, that child has memorized the Quran and speaks arabic,some of them send their children to Sudan, and the larger middle east for advanced and tertiarry education, some of these kids come back to nigeria with degrees in sharia law, but in nija, we dont consider that education, we copy the west so much. and yes i see your point but its not a point of lack of education,it is a point of difference in ideology, i feel that islamic education is education in the proper sense,someone who goes to an islamic university in saudi and learns law,fikh,tawheed etc etc cannot be considered an illiterate. However, given that our socio economic and political system is operated in a western context, western education is needed to run such a system, in Saudi, western education is only needed at the national level especially foreign service. but i trust you get my point!!!So the North can sensitize its people to western education without much difficulty if it wants to, but the typical northern child absorbs far more as a child than southerners, the child has to go to school (western) then go to school (islamic) and absorb both, islamic education is strict and serious and at par with western education in the social sciences, did you know that they teach even how to operate a banking system in islamic schools (islamic banking) so i get where you're coming from but you should also understand the north. But there's also a federal character so it should be followed, the presidency should be rotational, east,west,north should be the cycle. There are only so many positions out there and i dont see the north being unable to fill those positions at the federal level, i think the claim that the north is economically behind is a hoax,even if its true,its largely exaggerated, hausa people have always been commercial people(traders) even before europeans came to Africa, hausa's traded with Arabs and even Indians. I think there is a great deal of misunderstanding between north and south in Nigeria. Its unfortunate. Inter-marrying should solve that!!! |
Politics / Re: North Not A Parasite - Govs by gadogado(m): 5:47am On Aug 05, 2008 |
I see i have successfully rendered everybody on this thread speechless meaning no one is challenging me, which is good since we now all understand that we as Nigerians are not each others enemies, the white people that put us in so much mess are the real enemies, they're still our enemies!! but for those saying Hausa and Fulani are different don't know much. Hausa and Fulani are pretty much the same people, They've been inter marrying and inter mingling for centuries now and there isn't much difference between them, just about all Fulani people speak Hausa and have Hausa relatives. The only Fulani that are still traditionally Fulani are the ones in Adamawa and Bauchi, some of who are Cameroonians if you go back a few generations in their family line. But even they speak Hausa. Thats why the ethnic group is Hausa/Fulani. Hardly can you pin point a northern elite and say he is either Hausa or Fulani, they're the same people!!!! Jibril Aminu may be the exception because he's an adamawa Fulani!!meaning he's possibly Cameroonian. SAME PEOPLE.NO DIFFERENCE. |
Politics / Re: North Not A Parasite - Govs by gadogado(m): 3:14am On Aug 04, 2008 |
[quote][/quote]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I really genuinely hope they can resurrect their agriculture industry so that Nigeria can have a balanced economy. That way, we will not have all these tensions between ourselves. I am sure that if they could provide for themselves, they would not even want to be a part of Nigeria. Ibime, you seem to have convinced yourself that had the north had oil, it would desire to disintergrate. I think thats just a speculation in your part. After all, im a core northerner and even if the north discovered oil tomorrow, i'd want it to remain one nation, one entity. these are some of the reasons; firstly, (assuming you something about int'l politics) Nigeria is 140 million strong in population meaning enormous human resources. Have you noticed the trend in today's world, the nations with the biggest populations also have the fastest growing economies in the world i:e- China, India, with our population, we stand a chance at becoming a major global player within the framework of int'l politics, we stand a chance at being a production powerhouse at the global level with all sorts of economic benefits for nigeria. why do you think we are the most dominant country in west africa today, it is not because of our per capita GDP, it is because of our population. South Africa is the most politically dominant nation is Africa because of their economy, but once nigeria overtakes them in that regard, nigeria will be the most powerful country on the African continent and global 'agenda setting' player. No country can threaten to attack us under any circumstances as in the case of the US looting and pillaging Iraq, no nation can devour us and our resources InshaAllah. Do understand? With nuclear weapons, we will be amongst the world powers and then we can make money as a nation and our respect would've reached new levels as opposed to being treated as a mediocre starving,diseased 'sub human' people by the int'l media. Do you get where im coming from? think on a global scale!!! it'll be better.these are just some reasons, we have to be a beakon of hope to all black peoples of the world so as to be seen as equals by the rest of the world and to GET/COLLECT compensation for all the injustices meted on us by the WHITE MAN. |
Politics / Re: 40 Million Yorubas Get N14,560 Billion While River State Get N15,097billion by gadogado(m): 10:52pm On Aug 03, 2008 |
[quote][/quote]What census?? The cows and goats in the North?? If they want more money, they should get off their lazy ass'es and go farm. Why should the Niger delta keep feeding unproductive states like sokoto, Zamfara and the rest. That 13% should be 85%. Infact this country should change to a federal system of govt, then many of these state s would end up like Gongola and Bendel state. Okija juju, dont be silly, your comments are absolutely nonsensical!!! the oil is not produced as a result of the productivity of Niger Deltans, it is a "NATURAL" resource which belongs to the federal government of Nigeria as stipulated by the constitution of Nigeria. So the federal government owns the oil. The govt. owns all and every region, every inch of land is owned by the govt. not an ethnic group. We live in a civilized world, post ethnic world where the central govt. is composed of people from all ethnic groups. Dont be an idiot here, dont embarrass yourself. The nations oil should be distributed according to the pupulation of the states, the least populated should get the least amount of money from oil. this is simple logic. when it comes to productivity, no region of nigeria is productive or meeting its full potential, we have outdated,dilapidated industrial outfits in all parts of the country, there are still industries like ashaka cement in the north which is functioning and producing, so please dont confuse yourself, productivity as economic/industrial activity is not the same as having a natural resource deep down in the ground, having oil does not make niger deltans a tad bit more productive than hausa people. please inform yourself before talking!! |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 10:26pm On Aug 03, 2008 |
Almost all the Cows from Northern Nigeria are Mad Cow disease positive. They are contributing nothing, only what Southern Nigeria's gain from them is spreading disease You're obviously an illiterate, if you're not from the south south then you are also a parasite, meaning yorubas and igbos are equally parasites given that the bulk of the oil comes from the south south and the nation is 95% dependent on oil for servicing our economy. The average northerner has not felt any gain of oil, he is a poor man who is struggling day in day out, so with or without the oil, his condition will remain unchanged. The Niger Delta people are also people that dont benefit from the oil. But here's the bottom line, The Niger Delta and all regions and areas that constitute the federal republic of Nigeria belong to the federal government of Nigeria, not to a tribe or traditional ruler, every inch of that country belongs to the government. The govt. can extract resources and distribute the gains how ever they feel is fair. The oil is found in one part of the country but it doesnt mean they own the oil, they dont own anything. We are supposed to be living in a civilized world where political structures are a pre requisite for effectively running a nation state, in other words, govt. is needed to ensure the operation of a nation. The oil does not belong to Dokubo asari or any of his thugs, they are not part of any government but they want "resource control" supposing the oil was left in their control, what would they even do with it, they're illiterates and have no clue what to actually do with the oil. Even the money they get from kidnapping, what do they do with it? they dont use it to better anything they're complaining about, they buy jeeps and luxury items and live the generic wealth-centered, no substance material life that most nigerians so crave. So lets tell the truth as it is, Now if they want "compensation" for the environmental degredation caused by oil then that is acceptable and the government should concentrate on helping solve that problem but Nigeria is a legitimate, internationally recongnized nation state (the condition of this being the presence of govt.) and the oil belongs to the government which is composed of nigerians from all ethnic groups. Instead of turning this fight into a regional or ethnic one, challenge the elites who are the ones siphoning the money away from the people, leave the northern man alone, he doesnt feel any benefit from oil. Fight the elite and those in govt. fight them, there is no better avenue to do this than a democracy. Fight corruption, fight it but then again arent we nigerians, we will not fight it because we are hypocritical, we will shout today that we are being cheated but tomorrow when we are appointed, we will not address what we were shouting about rather we'll join and chop the money. its so pathetic, |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 9:37pm On Aug 03, 2008 |
[quote][/quote]While I vehemently disagree with those who describe Northerners with the most derogatory terms or paint them with one brush because of the actions of a few malevolent and incompetent leaders, I think your post is a good attempt at comedy and really, I find it hilarious. The British made sure things are in the hands of those they 'believe' they can manipulate. It is no secret they saw the rest (Igbo, Ijaw, Efik,Yoruba, Ibibio etc. . . as too adamant and rebellious as well as the thorn in the flesh of the colonialists. Before you get the wrong idea here, believing you can manipulate someone and actually manipulating them are two different things. Umm do you realize that the north could only be ruled through indirect rule by the British while the south was directly administered, so why do you now say that northerners are easy to manipulate when the fact is the British had to use traditional rulers to control northerners because they experienced many rebelions in the beginning which is why they opted for indirect rule, and they worked hand in hand (more like a cooperative) with these rulers. The same is true for other countries the British ruled like Sudan,they left the country with the Arabs as opposed to the southern Sudanese because the Arabs were simply more advanced, in Ghana, the country was left with the ashanti (note that hausa is also an ethnic group there to which the current ghanian vice president belongs to), so it is clear that in nigeria, the british decided to leave the country with the north for thier intellectual advantage over the south.[color=#770077][/color] |
Politics / Re: To Hell With Your Oil, North Tells South by gadogado(m): 11:08am On Aug 03, 2008 |
gonorrhea, who will be your gatemen? its so funny how southerners look down on northerners in that way. northerners own nigeria, they are simply more intellectual than southerners, even the British colonialists saw this which is why they left control of the nation in the hands of the north. Take in mind that northerns were/are muslims but the British still felt it better to leave the country with the north 'with the Hausa/Fulani'. Prior to British acqusition of Nigeria (the area of what is now known as nigeria) the Hausa's had a complex socio political system that was properly organized and had existed for centuries, far more complex than any other region in nigeria. So they have been rulling nigeria, they have produced the bulk of nigeria's leaders and elite. They control the country but if you want to be naive enough to reduce them to mai guards then be my guest. |
Art, Graphics & Video / Re: What Will Yar Adua Look Like In A Suit? Pls Take A Look: by gadogado(m): 1:38am On Aug 03, 2008 |
this is what he looks like in a suit for real
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