[quote author=Pistotita post=82023015]

Actually, not training per say, but interactive long term sessions for 10 to 12 months which birth many businesses. I share ideas with them all.It's for people who are in the business, or who are new but in good financial position. Not the kind of training for newbies. A medium we research and talk about different things, but the common recipe is that everyone involved has minimum of 1 acre of plum tomato. I designed A to Z procedure to achieve high profit based on the variety we are using, and supplied them with materials and input which cannot be purchased in Nigeria. One plum tomato is going to weigh at least 100g, and the highest will be 170grams. We will get more 100g if we dont adopt the best farming practice, but with my guardian, they will achieve more 150g upward at the beginning and middle of harvest, and then end with 100 - 130grams fruits. Also, I make them do market research. Some of the vegetable production for high prices offers I have been posting lately are the outcome of marketing research of the people who passed through me in the past that cannot satisfy the market they build for themselves. They have learned and mastered the tricks, and are enjoying it. The recent interaction gave birth to including chicken production. Guys are seeing possibilities. I am not the only one who has spotted these opportunities. Girls who live in Ikoyi, Victoria Island, Lekki, and Ajah talk to me from time to time. You see over 60 years old girls who are very interested. They know how much they pay for quality products on the Island. Abuja is a different ball game. So many opportunities.

There is a wonderful and intelligent lady from Calabar who is going to do wonderfully well. My interest in Calabar was re-ignited because of her. She shared some brands farmers who are really making it use with me, and I just smiled. Most are imported from Cameroon. Quality products; however, the prices are a bit high, but they get the expected results. I wanted to order like 10 cartons of a product through her, and share among farmers who were in need of one, but the product is not available presently. My point is that there are many who understand the flow of opportunities and treasures in this thread. I used to sell in Mile 12 and other open markets, but I decided to be a game changer. Greenhouses owners partner with me these days. I am telling you that there is huge market for producing quality vegetables. It's just so good in Lagos, Abuja, and in every major oil rigs or refineries cities in Nigeria. With the way the railway system Nigeria is improving with the recent rehabilitation, market for foreign products is getting higher among their staff. since more foreigners are in the sector. If I pack vegetables in a Sienna van, trust me that I am offloading all within 2 hours.

I spoke with another lady this evening and I am not surprised that many girls who have lived in the US, Canada, UK, and in Europe have different ideas. She agreed with me that chicken production on commercial level is extremely profitable. And I used to feel I am the only one looking into importing standard system with high powered machinery. Lol. I am so wrong. After discussing chicken and she dived into beef production, I laughed that business dey for naija oooo. Even guys are selling on online platforms like Jumia, Konga, Jiji, etc both fresh and proceed agro products. Do you understand the huge profit in social media marketing? Brosssss.....Poverty na real id.io.t.

Nigeria is an emerging market. As long as we have more Nigerians scholing, working, and hustling abroad, and they eventually return home, what I preach will continue making good profit. They just want good life and quality food by all means. They don't mind the cost. I shake my heads when I see poverty in action, on nairaland, especially when people just come out to criticize what they don't know how to do. I have engaged the people, I have fought them, and now is the time to just leave them in their world.

I feel you. I used to send seeds, nutrients, and even give free advice, plus Markle available experienced workers to assist people, but 99.9999% abused it. It was when they asked for help they are nice. What I noticed is that many run into Vegetables because of their present state. They have no passion for it. So, they pretend to seriously want to do it, but in their inner mind: "make a do this thing quick raise money, who wan farm? no be me"...lol. Eventually, when they face the smallest challenge, they run away. And just because the ones I helped invested very little, they just didn't care. So, I have stopped doing such. I am used to the same complain I get from many that there is no start upu fund. A d many want to do agric without setting up properly.

Most people who complain of lack of fund are using the latest phones in town. The mentality they have is that vegetables farming is to put seed in the soil, stroll out for many weeks, and return to harvest. Even they think poultry is cheaper to set up on small scale, and prefer to look for money to set it up. But when it comes to vegetables, it doesnt make sense to set up well. But it makes sense to sell a timato for N900 per kg..Lol.

Here is my opinion, there is a way when there is will. Many opportunities are out there. No one masters the act of producing vegetables excellently, and not set up eventually. I have not met such person. When you produce well, you will see the result. And when you use quality seeds, you will see the huge difference.

Finally, you cannot have N10,000 set up and expect to sell tomato at N600 - N900 per kg. Where you will sell is where 35kg basket is sold for N3,000, and it's hard to make a good success with just a plot.
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thanks for u replies boss.. keep blazing we are learning nd climbing the ladder, may be slow but am movi closer blv it.
TYLCV is what took my farm but another set is sprouting on d bed nd i hav imiforce nd mashal and ultimax plus(pesticide+fungicide) at hand for weekly spray because from my observation whiteflies are common in the community that i got the land in... but i cant pack out for them of course so i must keep them out... i also learnt they are attracted to yellow colors so i hav yellow balls coated with sticky materials all around. i hav good plans nd am worki them out nd i asure u that within a year or two at most i will catch up ur pase
thanks so much......
i do apreciate u once again for the chance to learn from u free of charge

Pistotita:


I have mentioned varieties here, pick any up. I don't talk prices here. If I desperately need to use any seed on pilot, and it's just 20 I need, I may end up buying MOQ which can even be 1kg. I decided to work with someone who ordered above $1,100 seeds of different kinds of cultivars. That's just only seeds for pilot. And this is what some people will fight hard to spend on major projects on large hectares of land. This life is absolutely funny.

If you want to achieve, you will do extra ordinary. If you choose to let "holding back" hold you down, you cannot achieve much.

You can choose to always use what you have used and just be on that level, or you can choose to spend more to be on higher level. The choice is yours to make. Research is always expensive. We don't even have allocation in our budget for researches in Nigeria. lol. I remember that I read US stopped research on algae bio fuel some years back after spending billions of dollars with no outstanding break through, but returned to it again with even more allocation when they realised that it may be the future. But in Africa, our budget is surviving the present, while UAE has a minister of Artificial Intelligence recently who is planning life for her citizens 70 years from today.

I know what I know because I don't wait for the other person to do it first because I am trying to be smart with my resources (but is it really smartness or fooli.shn.ess?). It's common among West Africans. And it's poverty mentality (I'm not insulting you sir. I am not saying you have a poor mentality, but just writing generally). "Oh! You do it first, when you succeed, I will." My response to such people: "Oh! You want me take all the risks, and then later, "dash" you the result". You want to share only in my success, and not in my pain and losses. And when the result is showing, they are first to start crying for free sharing of knowledge. Even when you lead them to the path of success, they want big success with no labor. Of course, such people with low risk tolerance end up becoming second best after the "first movers". The pictures you shared with me qualify you as an outstanding first mover. It's left with you to be one, or be a follower. The price of leadership is going beyond the limit the ordinary man goes. Your gifts are potential energy. They can die in that static state without using 0.000001%. If you must use them, my physics tells me "force" is needed to move potential to kinetic. Potential is as good as not having in the absence of force.

While the western world is moving ahead, Africa is trying to survive on ancient ways of life. Poverty has positioned Africa to backwardness strategically. And the mentality is still here. The syndrome is hyper active in nairaland. In 2019 some are still trying to use hose to irrigate where they want to bring out money to live good life (not saying one cannot start with hose but I know people with many years of farming experience still don't want to move ahead). I don't think any farmer in the western world would ever use crude agronomy of breeding chickens with charcoal heat for DOCs. But here, we even display them (not condemning people doing it, but I know we can do better). I have not read a single thread of ultra modern chicken farms set up by anyone on nairaland. Poverty is a ba.sta.rd. One gets poor to the extend one starts defending poverty. And poverty itself will be astonished that effortlessly a victim will protect himself from deliverance from poverty by fighting the deliverers. Poverty is a n.uisa.nce.

When I realised that I will need to spend continously in my quest for knowledge, I learned to have a constant cash flow venture. Please, read my post above on cucumber and chicken production.

i really wish i could order u a bottle of whatever u drink..
u are a true leader nd an inspiration. May God continue to empower u both mentaly nd financially.
u said something that even u wont understand how much it meant to me and the thing is that "poverty is a bastard"...
i really wish i had enough cash flow to join u train but i dont, so i will continue to follow u nd pick up the crops that fall from ur table nd i sure know that in no time i will kill the bastard nd buy a ticket on ur train..
i know and understand everything u say on ur thread but am at war with d bastard...
soar higher boss... be sure i will catch up.
cheers!!!

Pistotita:


I have mentioned varieties here, pick any up. I don't talk prices here. If I desperately need to use any seed on pilot, and it's just 20 I need, I may end up buying MOQ which can even be 1kg. I decided to work with someone who ordered above $1,100 seeds of different kinds of cultivars. That's just only seeds for pilot. And this is what some people will fight hard to spend on major projects on large hectares of land. This life is absolutely funny.

If you want to achieve, you will do extra ordinary. If you choose to let "holding back" hold you down, you cannot achieve much.

You can choose to always use what you have used and just be on that level, or you can choose to spend more to be on higher level. The choice is yours to make. Research is always expensive. We don't even have allocation in our budget for researches in Nigeria. lol. I remember that I read US stopped research on algae bio fuel some years back after spending billions of dollars with no outstanding break through, but returned to it again with even more allocation when they realised that it may be the future. But in Africa, our budget is surviving the present, while UAE has a minister of Artificial Intelligence recently who is planning life for her citizens 70 years from today.

I know what I know because I don't wait for the other person to do it first because I am trying to be smart with my resources (but is it really smartness or fooli.shn.ess?). It's common among West Africans. And it's poverty mentality (I'm not insulting you sir. I am not saying you have a poor mentality, but just writing generally). "Oh! You do it first, when you succeed, I will." My response to such people: "Oh! You want me take all the risks, and then later, "dash" you the result". You want to share only in my success, and not in my pain and losses. And when the result is showing, they are first to start crying for free sharing of knowledge. Even when you lead them to the path of success, they want big success with no labor. Of course, such people with low risk tolerance end up becoming second best after the "first movers". The pictures you shared with me qualify you as an outstanding first mover. It's left with you to be one, or be a follower. The price of leadership is going beyond the limit the ordinary man goes. Your gifts are potential energy. They can die in that static state without using 0.000001%. If you must use them, my physics tells me "force" is needed to move potential to kinetic. Potential is as good as not having in the absence of force.

While the western world is moving ahead, Africa is trying to survive on ancient ways of life. Poverty has positioned Africa to backwardness strategically. And the mentality is still here. The syndrome is hyper active in nairaland. In 2019 some are still trying to use hose to irrigate where they want to bring out money to live good life (not saying one cannot start with hose but I know people with many years of farming experience still don't want to move ahead). I don't think any farmer in the western world would ever use crude agronomy of breeding chickens with charcoal heat for DOCs. But here, we even display them (not condemning people doing it, but I know we can do better). I have not read a single thread of ultra modern chicken farms set up by anyone on nairaland. Poverty is a ba.sta.rd. One gets poor to the extend one starts defending poverty. And poverty itself will be astonished that effortlessly a victim will protect himself from deliverance from poverty by fighting the deliverers. Poverty is a n.uisa.nce.

When I realised that I will need to spend continously in my quest for knowledge, I learned to have a constant cash flow venture. Please, read my post above on cucumber and chicken production.

i really wish i could order u a bottle of whatever u drink..
u are a true leader nd an inspiration. May God continue to empower u both mentaly nd financially.
u said something that even u wont understand how much it meant to me and the thing is that "poverty is a bastard"...
i really wish i had enough cash flow to join u train but i dont, so i will continue to follow u nd pick up the crops that fall from ur table nd i sure know that in no time i will kill the bastard nd buy a ticket on ur train..
i know and understand everything u say on ur thread but am at war with d bastard...
soar higher boss... be sure i will catch up.
cheers!!!

Pistotita:


Your choice of seed is not one of my choices since it has no resistance against curling you are experiencing. And I am sure your spraying method is not good. Most likely you use cheap fungicides. It's not about spraying everything you read on nairaland. but knowing what to spray, and how to spray them. Not using mulch or drip exposes your crops to deadly diseses. My oga, it's impossible to mulch large area of land, but the compromise is not cultivating during rainy season. I know about large hectares farming too. And I can easily run 100 ha of tomato farm. But it's impossible during rainy season. The way out is to adopt every precaution I have listed. If not using mulch, one can still make it, but I will not try it because I want to hit target.

I'm a straight forward person. Even my present approach is using fortified seedlings. This year's plan has been changed from supplying seeds to seedlings of around 15 to 30 days in trays. I don't know where modern commercial farmers in the western world use seeds anymore. They all order for seedlings, or get the seeds and process them into fortified seedlings. They attack diseases with everything in them.

Coming to Africa where gasses emission, pollution, poor life styles, etc have destroyed our ecosystem to the extent the system has been badly distorted, and we still want to use these seeds? And to cultivate 10,000 - 15,000 plants on an acre.......hmmmm. That's too much work. My brother who got over 3kg above from such varieties discussed with me his approach today, and I "give it" to him..But how he will replicate it on one acre might be tough. Therefore, I advised him to change his choice of seed. Too much fertilizer is needed for these varieties. Destruction is unavoidable.

Let me do the calculation for you, and see the mistake most farmers make. They make beds like cucumbers for tomato. And I don't even use such beds spacing for cucumber. But they try to put 1,000km on a plot. Though, most drip sellers tell you to use 4km per acre, but of course, many use 6km per acre. If anyone of them says I'm a liar, I will sit with him and split it all out mathematically. Now majority buy 30cm emitters too. So that on just one plot, there are 3,333 plants. That's 20,000 plants on an acre. Hahahahhaha. Failure upon upon. Zero over zero. And that's in wet season. Even they use 4km, it's 13,333 plants per acre. First class failure. lols. I go for 4,000 to 6,000 on an acre. Can you see the difference? And my plant spacing are based in accordance with the genetic characteristics of the varieties.

To feed 4,000 plants and 20,000 plants, which is more economical? I prefer to buy expensive seeds and feed less. And also spend less on labor too.

When you keep using the same old style, you will never achieve new results. So, if you want to do pilot, sit down and use the right approach for your pilot. Ditch all these varieties that are useless for small scale farmers. They are for commercial farmers. I have explained all these things. But people stubbornly use them because they are reasonably cheap in their eyes, but they are really crazily expensive. While they spend more money on fertilizer and labor too when cultivating them. At the end they spend 3 times more. Seriously, I don't get it how people don't easily see that the running costs of these seeds are extremely high for small scale farmers. These seeds are for farners with tractors for Christ sake. Ditch them all my brother. No small scale farmer in advance country use these seeds.

Try any of the seeds I have recommended in this thread and free yourself from failure.

By the way, I advance daily. My approach may change this time next year. That's the truth. This variety you talked about is what I used like 5 years ago. And I don't use it again. If I am going to cultivate such, I will do it during dry season and use Roma that is OPV or I will fortify it. Trust me, it will achieve more than these ones. And it will be on a large scale without mulch using tractor to transplant. But it's not my first choice.

Good luck sir!

thanks so much for ur response boss.
the problem where to get this ur higher standard variety. especialy since its not much quantity, do they sell smaller quantity packs... whats the lowest price pack.. i honestly would hav tried one of them this dry season

bosagro23:
MY TOMATO EXPERIENCE
I divided the beds into two sections
I generously applied compost to the beds. I took the time to make the beds with a lot of worm caste I got nearby in the first 20cm of the beds.
I mulched section A with a transparent nylon
Section B with no mulch.
Additionally,the plants were fed Fish, eggs,sawdust and banana , KS,NPK,CALMAG and Mgsal
The seed used is cobra 26 from technisem. All other GAP were observed.
THE RESULT
Noticed that the mulched beds had very little issue with soil borne diseases
I DID NOT FOR ONCE SPRAY ANY INSECTICIDE just to see if its possible to achieve yield with little or no spraying.
Got 3. 54kg per plant on the average so far
I wish I could expantiate my experience and little findings but I need to go now.

pls am planting the same variety nd am havi trouble with it. i dont know if its the soil because am doi every other things d way am asked to. am try to upload pix but unable to pls msg me on whatsapp so i can show u d pix of whats happeni to my tomatoes... 08169753104

Pistotita:


Oh! It is always good to have testimonies like this here. I appreciate you saying this. I made it a rule to not attend to any ghost anymore. If the person doesn't tell his story here, I will not attend to the person. Gone are the days people slide privately to just get more ideas when the information was got on a public forum. Anyone who wishes I assist should also tell his story here, and help others to build confidence with these concepts.




Great. Your nutritional combo is very funny. Of course the combo will work, but you need to fine tune it. If you use a better variety, you will get more yield. I can get you what will astonish you. Also, your choice of mulch is not good. Don't try to use the mulch during dry season if you don't want trouble. You are lucky it's this season and the reason you detected it's efficiency against diseases which is very accurate. But it efficiency goes beyond that. If you get just 2 plots of land, and you fine tune it, I can assure you around 10 to 13 tons if you get a very good cultivar. Just dont mind the cost. In addition, keep to crop rotation if you want to be successful.

It is a lot of trouble working on more than 6 plots of land if the farmer's experience is limited. Just one plot near the farmer is enough to make money.

Finally bro, are you the one who asked me about the burpless cucumber growers plan? If yes, send me an email, let me have your number. And get pictures to show me your results so I can understand your style of farming. Pictures will help me know what to do to assist you further. It's funny how many people are asking about the offer. Even 4 friends from the North asked for 500g each. That's close to N600k worth. When you get to a stage in farming, and you put effort in marketing to detect hidden treasures in Agric, you start seeing why some seeds are extrenely expensive. But when you get offers like these I roll put here, you just take it. Why? Only you understand how hard to get them, the high price they are sold here even not good quality, and how easy to make good profit with them. Anyone who tells you greenhouse farming or "exotic" vegetable farming is not profitable is just not in the business.

When you have buyers of special seeds, special herbs and spicies, essential oil (like someone discussed with me some weeks ago and is planning to import equipment for it), even stevia, you will focus on small scale farming, or spend millions on hydroponic systems. I don't know why people are lazy with marketing research. Anyway, the reward is working on 1 ha or more and having nothing to show for it. And then looking into getting more ha of land, and still meet failure. Lol! When one is not cultivating grains, trees and spices, why do you need very large land that is beyond ones reach to set up excellently? I don't understand it.

Boss i hav been followi ur thread but hav been mute because my farm is not the large nd modern method type, i will get there some day. pls am havi problem with my tomatoes despite my use of fungicide nd pesticide from the onset as preventive measure the leaves hav started curling downwards, even my melon nd i dont even know what to do now to cure them

okoroemeka:
we can waybill it to you if you need it, phostrogen is #5k for 5 ltr gallon,mancozeb price depends on brand you want, WhatsApp 08119942049 for more info.

ok thanks

okoroemeka:
if you read wiz2019 posts you will see that he planted 2 varieties for the mile 12 market ,jorad and cu 999,and the jorad got better prices than the cu 999,just go and plant Murano 2f1 and save yourself unnecessary headaches.

pls can u help me with a contact or direction as to where i can get phostrogen nd mancozeb in lagos, pls its urgent

deking:
You want investors and you reply a sarcastic question in this way. Bro you are very far from it.

I recognise questions when i see one and that guy wasnt asking a question but a discouragement to anyone who may have interest.

satelliteDISH:


If I invest 100k in your farm and later herdsmen comes to eat up the whole crops. Wetin you go tell me at the end of 10 months?

maybe the witches in ur village are so desperate not to see u suceed as to turn themselves to herdsmen because of ur 100k but be rest assured not even ur village witches powered herdmen can enter my farm
anumpama

farming is a good business but requires time, diligence and knowledge, i have the knowledge and time and diligence is my nature
i can grow PEPPER, MAIZE AND CASSAVA with assurance of geting u 3 times whatever amount u invest in 10 months but the minimum amount acceptable is 250k as this is the amount that can work on 1 acre of land
anyone with interest should reach me on my mobile 08169753104 also available on whatsapp

bimbax:
You've not made case for eventualities, risks and analysis of your market.

Are you telling me transportations and logistics is free?
How long is the project gonna last?
What are my insurances if things go west.

Make if formal to depict your seriousness

All the best!

pls pardon my write up, am not a maketer am only tryi to reach out to anyone out there who can lets put heads together to raise some money.
i totally forgot the trasportation aspect and at most 20 to 30k should do it
the projecy will run for 10 to 12 months with harvesting beggining from the 3rd month with maize and then pepper before cassava.
as for things goi west, so long as the land is secure, the worst that can happen is a little less than d average expected profit which os very unlikely as i have narrowed down to low risk level.

decatalyst:


Hmmm...well, I feel it could be more detailed than this with assurance on returns. I have land...in Osun State tho...dunno if that would cut it

if u can raise the funds and provide acommodation am ok with Osun state and for the furtjer details returns maybe can can be further discussed privately

[quote author=decatalyst post=78278604]
Exactly my thought too.
Interested
its fully detailed now so u can re-check

decatalyst:

Exactly my thought too.
Interested

details attached

ikhileomotayo:
Hi Guys,

I know Agriculture is the way to go but I lack business skills. I have the capital and will need advise from successful Agricultural entrepreneurs on possible agric investments. Thanks

Cassava, maize and pepper is a sure way. if u are still in for the proposal am very much ready to manage and ensure a good return on ur investement. contact me
giwaodion185@gmail.com

MiddleSpot:
K

ARE U INTERESTEd

am very much ready to do farm work around Ogun state, am experienced in cassava, maize and pepper farming. If anyone can raise funds for us to do this bizness am very much available to manage and work d farm to harvest and we share the ROI 55-45％at the end

COST ANALYSY FOR 1 ACRE OF LAND

Land lease 7K
clearing 20k
ridges 30k
cassava stems 10k
pepper seeds 5k
maize seeds 2k
planting of the 3 crops 15k
fertilizers 20k
fungicides and herbicodes 20k
weeding （3 times ） 60k
knapsack sprayer 5k
harvesting of maize and pepper 15k
harvesting of cassava 20k
mislenous 1k
total 240k

PROFIT ANALYSIS
MAIZE
if all sold fresh（ond averahe） 180k

PEPPER
80 to 100 bags
at 5 to 6k each （on d aberage) 500k

CASSAVA
（when fully processed to garri）
25 to 30 bags of garri so
at 12 to 15k （on d average ) 400k


ROI （on d average）
total profit 1080000
- total expensis 240000
840k

i just came into the state from Edo and i need a land where i can start farming. i dont have much right now but if anyone can help me out with a land for me to start off on i will be glad

thanks in advanve

i need a land to and stems to plant, am really interested, am in ogun state pls anyone that can help should contact me
08169753104 is my contact and whatsapp