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Religion / Re: Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf: 3:44pm On Jul 28
StillDtruth:


If you admit that Jesus is Lord, then these passages show you lack understanding!

Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD Deuteronomy 6:5

The Lord thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing. Zephaniah 3:17

For I the Lord thy God will hold thy right hand, saying unto thee, Fear not; I will help thee. Isaiah 41:13



then you who has understanding, take every Lord ever mentioned as your God as well

Meanwhile it's actually Deutronomy 6:4
Hear Israel, Jehovah our God, Jehovah is one.

You have understanding yet do you know what echad means

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Religion / Hope For Lost Souls by gohf: 10:20am On Jul 28
Hope for Lost Souls

People do not realize that in other to gain the things of this world they have to lose their souls. The reason you do not even realize you have a soul maybe because you have lost it.

What does a man gain if he gains the world but loses his soul, can that question truly be answered when you do not know the value of your soul?

Okay, what do you gain if you gain 1million but lose 1billion, when you realize that your soul is more valuable than gold, would you not guard it. How do you even lose something you don't know you have? Well it's because there's a thief that knows you have it, and came to steal it. The first thing the Devil has come to do is to steal.

And what does he steal? Your soul, because he knows how much more valuable it is than the world he claims to own and offer.

Now how does he steal your soul, there are demons that steal the very word of God sent to preserve your soul, and they don't just steal the word that's meant to give you the faith you lack but also an offer is made to you. An offer to gain the world, do you know why you don't even know the value of your soul, it's because of the thief, who is the god of this world, blinding the eyes of men with desires and promises that make them chase after things and serve Mammon. He never tells you the price of what he offers to you, he stirs your lust and greed so as to steal your soul in return.


But thank God for Jesus, who has come to give his life for us, before he gives life to us, he gives his life for us inorder to reclaim our souls from the thief. Jesus gave his life to God so he could lay claim and collect our souls. What? You thought he paid the devil, who pays a thief? A price was required because of the sin of unbelief, for lack of faith is sin and lack of faith results to lost souls. Listen our souls have to be redeemed because it is the only vessel to receive life with, that's why it is a revelation and not just a warning that sin leads to death, because losing your soul due to sin leads to death.

How can you have life without a soul.

What can a man give for his soul?

You cannot return what you have collected and gain back your soul because it was never a legal transaction, it was theft and deception, you were duped and blinded to lose your soul and only by finding the thief is restoration possible. Finding the thief is one, overpowering him is another, having the legal right to reclaim is another. This is why Jesus took our sins, for without sin he cannot die, but with your sins he can meet the thief called devil, that's why you repent and surrender to him. Even with our sins he cannot die because of the incorruptible life in him, so he has to give up his life and blood to cleanse and seperate us from sins while he descends to redeem our souls from the thief.

It is because you do not know, that you do not understand nor appreciate why we tell you what we do, about what has been done for you and what you should do. The process of redeeming your soul is a gift to those who believe and in obedience are willing to follow Jesus. The only hope to recover our souls is Jesus, who pays for our soul and becomes the legal owner of it but this price is that is available for everyone is not forced upon everyone. If you want Jesus to recover your soul back from the devil today, you need to reject the devil and turn away from sin, and then proclaim Jesus has Lord over your life. The devil has no right over your soul when you have nothing of his in your life.

If you or anyone repents, Jesus has full right to reclaim their souls. No matter who they are or where they are from. If they reject the world they have gained, Jesus will reclaim the soul they lost.

What does it profit you to gain your soul and lose the world? You gain the kingdom of God and eternal life.
Religion / Re: Why You Should Avoid Backbiting And Tarnishing Others Behind Their Back by gohf: 10:16am On Jul 28
Pray least you fall into temptation and be like one of those you criticise. Take heed you who think you stand least you fall

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Religion / Re: Christians SLAM Paris Olympics Opening Ceremony For Woke Parody Of Last Supper by gohf: 10:15am On Jul 28
Like written in Revelation and they still did not repent from their sins.

Same with you who view this and still continue with wickedness

Religion / Re: Abel Damina Didn’t Ordain Dr Paul Enenche Into Ministry - Paul Odola Opens Up by gohf: 10:12am On Jul 28
It is well

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Religion / Jesus Christ Is Not God by gohf: 10:03am On Jul 28
Jesus Christ is Lord!.... but he is not God, indeed he is king and divine but he isn't God.

The basis of true faith is to believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God and not that Jesus Christ is God.

Matt.16.15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?"
Matt.16.16 Simon Peter answered and said, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God."
Matt.16.17 Jesus answered and said to him, "Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.

Jesus himself said, John 14:28, "I am going to the Father, for my Father is greater than I."

Demons did not call Jesus God, even though they are lying spirits whose accounts we shouldn't believe Luke.8.28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out, fell down before Him, and with a loud voice said, "What have I to do with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg You, do not torment me!"


Then what about an angel, Gabriel who had visited Daniel who then visited Mary and said to her,
Luke.1.31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name JESUS.
Luke.1.32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David.


There is the Lord Jesus and the Lord God... Ps.110.1 The LORD said to my Lord, "Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool."

Some even say that the name of Jesus which is higher than every other name is higher than the name of the Father. Not even consider that a son bears his father's name.

Let me use an easier translation so we don't speak too many words, what did Paul say
1Cor.15.27 For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
1Cor.15.28 Now when all things are made subject to Him, then the Son Himself will also be subject to Him who put all things under Him, that God may be all in all.

This was Paul who Phil.2.9 Therefore God also has highly exalted Him and given Him the name which is above every name,... Jesus did not give himself a name, it was God the Father that gave him a name.

When John writes about testing every spirit, prophecy to verify genuine prophets from false prophets he wrote
1John.4.2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
1John.4.3 and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God. And this is the spirit of the Antichrist, which you have heard was coming, and is now already in the world.


The question now is what can you call a person or a spirit that says Jesus is God, for God is spirit revealed by Jesus himself but we are to believe that Jesus came in the flesh and is currently resurrected in his body at the right hand of the Father.

The devil is an author of confusion that is why those who are confused claim to be spiritual and that things of the spirit cannot be understood even when John, Jesus, Isaiah affirmed that the spirit gives understanding. How can Jesus be at the right-hand of himself.

You who believe such are the reason why the truth of God is held in contempt as the world views you as being to gullible to believe every nonsense you hear. And the true believers see you as a child tossed to and fro by strange doctrines born out of the imaginations of men.


I who have met the real Jesus testify to you that Jesus and the Father are not the same, yes they are one because they are united as a husband and wife are one in unity but not the same in personality or person.

Jesus is the word of God, and he is divine, the very manifestation of God's word full of grace and truth but he is not God the speaker. He himself testifies of God the Father, as the one who sent him, as the one who testifies of him the son, as the one who does the works.

If Jesus is God he would reveal himself as God and not have to humble himself to God who is above and above all, revealing God the father. Jesus is divine because he is like God, having the likeness of God but the in the image of man to bear our sins.

This post is to reveal who Jesus is, the real Jesus sent by the Father, that those who listen and obey him will be saved. This is the spirit of prophecy, the testimony of Jesus. Blessed is he who understands and sees him.

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Religion / Re: Why Christianity Enjoyed More "Raw" Miracles In The Past by gohf: 9:26am On Jul 28
Maybe we should consider the role TV media played in those days when they broadcasted such and it made the news. This days would even a real miracle make the news? Which news media would do such...


Well as there been a miracle on an international scale?

Religion / Re: Why Are Jehovah's Witnesses Now Dull In Their Evangelism? by gohf: 9:22am On Jul 28
We still dey do evangelism o 😊

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Religion / Re: Online Bible Interactive Session Wed 8pm by gohf: 9:20am On Jul 28
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Religion / Re: How To Be A Nigerian Pastor – By Segun Dada by gohf: 11:30am On Jul 24
franklampard082:
Being a Nigerian pastor is easy. If this were a book, it will probably be a best-seller because of the spate at which churches spring up at the slightest opportunity in Nigeria. Opportunities are vast and since Nigerians need something to believe in, this “trade” will always sell…. At least, till Jesus comes!

The following are steps to follow to be a Nigerian pastor. If these steps are followed religiously, you will not only become rich, you will become extremely powerful. You will be worshiped, adored and people will fall over themselves to get your attention. Politicians will fall on their knees and beg you to lay hands on them! Yes! You will be that powerful.

1. It doesn’t matter what you were or used to be, it doesn’t matter that you used to be an armed robber, an advance fee fraud expert, a cult lord, a drug pusher or even a rapist. The fact that you used to have an evil past is a big testimony on its own. The worse your past, the more people will believe in the new you. It’s just the Nigerian thing. We love them complicated.

2. Gather a small crowd of people. No matter how small, tell them how you went to bed the previous night and a white-clothed figure appeared to you in a vision and “called you”. Tell them you are ready to take up this clarion call. Get a big fat shiny new bible and a cassock if possible, look as calm as you can and smile at any opportunity, they will believe you. As long as no one can get the call history of how “God called you”, no one cares. They just assume he did. Again, it’s the Nigerian way of reasoning.

3. The third step is very important. Naming your church. Most pastors don’t know this, but like the caption of books and movies, the name of a church is everything. Look for a very catchy name; something that people will love to describe themselves with once they become members. Take for instance; “Oluwa Is Involved Holy Ghost Penticostal Fire Brand Ministries”…. Nice huh? Your members can call themselves “Fire Branders”. This will be printed on all merchandise from t-shirts to holy water to holy oils and sometimes, holy handkerchiefs. They won’t be really holy but well…. What’s a company without advertisement?

4. Next is building a church. Mr pastor-in-embryo, this is very very very important! You have to be very technical and innovative about this. Two vital questions are involved in building a church. They are;

i. What kind of church do you want to build? Is it a church for the rich ones or the struggling ones? (Before you say rich, money and power will come in from either ways)

ii. Do you have the funds to build a church in your area of choice? If no, how do you hope to get the funds?

Suggestions;

i. Building a church either in a rich or poor man’s environment both has its basic advantages and disadvantages. If you are thinking the rich man’s zone, then be prepared to out-do numerous competitors. It is also very capital intensive. You need an eye-popping edifice. Fully air-conditioned, comfy pews, etc. A lot of pastors-in-embryos are also thinking like you. So for you to succeed in that zone, you have to be extra-innovative. You need a basic know-how of being a Behind-queens-english-speaking kind of pastor. If you can perform a few tricks and call them miracles, voila! You stand a better chance of hitting gold and out-doing your numerous competitors.

However, if you are thinking the struggling zone, this isn’t too capital intensive, you can start from a shop, or open space or even in the one-bedroom apartment which you presently reside somewhere around Ijora-badia. All you need for a start is at least two very loud speakers, a drum-set and a fairly used piano. No matter how small your church is, you need more members who need to contribute so you move to your “permanent site”. So your loud speakers must be blaring at all times.

ii. Getting funding to start a church is important for your hustle. It’s easy. Gather a group of rich men you may know. You may think of it as a sort of consortium. Lay down your business plan and tell them how and when they will get returns on their investment. Bear in mind that these people can’t be deceived. They actually don’t care about you or even God so don’t appeal to their spiritual side because they have none. Appeal to their self-interest and I assure you that in no time, your funding will be ready. Congrats.

5. The next step is choosing your title. Being referred to as “Pastor” isn’t just good enough. Look for something bigger and more respectable like “Senior Reverend, High Bishop, Cardinal. Or even Pope. Add “Daddy or Papa” at the end of your name. Members can call you Cardinal Yabiswacko, Daddy or papa for short. Your wife must also be a Bishop and known as Mummy for short.

6. Now that your church is almost ready to take off, you need advertisement. Call on a few media houses and organize a large crusade. If your specialty is in the struggling zone, Call it something like; “Operation Your Village Witches Must Die”. Appear on television if you can. Scream and sweat profusely while on air. Let your prospective members know you mean business. Look very fiery like you can actually confront their respective village witches and move your mouth like you are speaking in tongues. On the day of the crusade, you will be amazed at the turn out. You may call it “the Lord’s doing” if you like. Some will leave after the crusade but those that stay back will form your first set of members. You can grow from there.

7. By now the church is set and has taken off, plan the organogram very well. Members of the consortium who funded the building of the church will be the “board of trustees” or “church council”. Your most trusted friend or even your wife MUST be the church treasurer. You can’t afford to trust the church funds with a stranger. This is business and should be handled with serious seriousness. Next you make a very handsome dude the choirmaster. That way pretty ladies will join the choir. You make an ex-officer or policeman the head of ushers. That way there will be orderliness. The others can take care of themselves.

8. Income: money is important and even the bible confirms same. Tithing is important so make sure 80% of your congregation are tithers. It is none of your business what business members of your congregation do as long as they pay their tithe. This people sometimes try to be smart and try to cheat god (which is you) by not declaring what they earned so you can deduct your 10%. Blackmail them. Tell them how they will spend eternity in hell for trying to cheat god. You must also be creative. Spin some success stories of people who paid god in the past and have been living happily ever after. Also tell them of people who tried to cheat god in the past and met a very terrible, brutal end. Also, collect as many offerings in a Sunday as possible. As usual, be innovative and give these offerings names such as “welfare offering” “widows offering” “missionary offering” “pastor’s welfare offering” etc. In the end, watch your ministry rise with financial power. Also, never let any opportunity pass without you taking an offering. Be it naming ceremonies, burial, baby dedication, car dedication or even okada and keke maruwa dedication.

9. Now that your ministry is growing in numbers and financial strength, the time to repay your debtors has come. Pay them off as quickly as possible. Don’t let them truncate your hustle with them hassling you for debt. Pay them off, then count your blessings. Bring up new laws in your church. Claim you saw these instructions in a vision from heaven and they must be followed to the letter or they won’t be allowed to enter the kingdom of God;

* No more inter-church marriages. Everyone must marry from within your church.

* Every family must seek spiritual guidance before doing any business, when they have dispute and permission before they have sex at home.

* No single man must approach a single woman directly, he must come to you and then you will in turn “consult with god” if they will go well together. (If the single lady is pretty and you have eyes on her, she is a no-go area of course. Tell the single man that heaven denied the transaction. He must accept his fate and look for a less good-looking woman)

* Call families randomly and tell them “thus saith the lord; that place you want to go today is dangerous. Don’t go!” Of course everyone has a place he or she should be. You will be respected and seen as the man who god talks to.

* Declare that henceforth it is a sin for anyone to remain on his feet when talking to you. They have to always be on their knees while you “lay hands” on them.

* Tell the unemployed ones to add “Spiritual son or daughter of Cardinal Yabiswacko” in their CV when looking for jobs. Tell the employed ones it is now a grave sin to employ a member of another church for a position that a member of your church is interested in. No matter how highly unqualified the latter must be.

10. Always stay on the side of the government and the authorities. The possibilities are limitless! So to achieve this, always tell your congregation never to criticize the government, tell them to always pray for the government no matter how poorly it treats them. Declare fasting and prayers when, for instance, the president’s wife is down with food poisoning after feeding on, say, three million naira a day. All this will turn attention your way and just hopefully you may one day become the chaplain of Aso Rock or even a certain president’s personal pastor!

11. Now that you are a big pastor, buy state of the art cars. Build yourself the kind of mansion that is waiting for you in heaven here on earth. Whenever you go out, drive on a convoy, buy yourself a private jet or two if possible because you will be needed in every part of the world and you won’t have that time to flock with mere humans who rush daily to the airports to board commercial airlines. You are a demi god and you must always carry yourself like that. Money, power and invincibility.

12. You need your congregation to always listen to you. Always be in your power and under your Mighty feet. So, as much as possible, don’t ever preach about any other thing except prosperity and winning the war against the witches and wizards in the villages. If, for instance, as the pastor, you have an opportunity to feed 5,000 people like Jesus did in the bible, don’t! You can’t afford to have your congregation so well fed for they might no longer listen to you. Simply eat a part of the bread and fish and tell them how it was sent from above. Sell it to them one after the other and see your finances rise. Don’t ever feed them! Don’t ever care about them too much! You are the god and they are your creation.

These rules have worked for many a Nigerian pastor. They may take a while to come to fruition – what lucrative venture doesn’t anyway? – but they have never failed!

I wish you all the patience and goodluck in your hustle.

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Or just wait patiently on the Lord, pray and follow his leading, let him build his church and let the Holy Spirit direct and bring power and people into God's kingdom. This way you gain eternal life and eternal wealth.
Religion / Online Bible Interactive Session Wed 8pm by gohf: 11:22am On Jul 24
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Religion / Re: How I Started Praying/speaking In Tongues. (my Experience) by gohf: 11:20am On Jul 24
David0002:


In the bible, speaking in tongues started on the day of pentecost, when the disciples of Jesus or the apostles were baptized with the Holy Ghost. They were speaking in the other tongues as the Spirit gave them utterance. You can find it in Acts chapter 2. Read it yourself.
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Religion / Re: No Amount Of Anointing Can Fight Sexual Temptation, Says Adeboye by gohf: 11:27am On Jul 07
Fiscus105:




Yes, they were deceiving and forcing people before.

Telling people to remain in abusive marriage, because God hates divorce is a deceit.

Telling people not to remarry because they divorce is a deceit.

Telling people to confess their sin to Rev father at all cost after they have confessed to God is a deceit.

Forcing people to resistitue "all sins" after confessed to God.

Forcing people to pay tithes. By telling them, they would only be blessed by God, if they pay tithes, or that if u dnt pay tithes you wont make heaven, is pure deceit.

All these are causing more injuries,(emotionally, physically etc) to christians, but they were/are manipulating them to abide.
but what about all the miracles that happened with those fathers and pastors? How can they be lying and miracles still happened? 🤔 😞
Religion / Re: No Amount Of Anointing Can Fight Sexual Temptation, Says Adeboye by gohf: 7:21am On Jul 07
Fiscus105:
Thanks God the church leaders are now waking up to reality.

* The way now handle Divorce.
* Christians shouldn't remarry after divorce.
* Believing anointee can help you do all things
* Being able to understanding, the different between spiritual needs & body anatomy needs of humans, and how, the two are important to human existence and success.
just waking up? Were they deceiving people before?
Religion / Re: No Amount Of Anointing Can Fight Sexual Temptation, Says Adeboye by gohf: 7:21am On Jul 07
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Religion / Re: What Does The Bible Say About Kissing And Hugging One's Fiance? by gohf: 12:13pm On Jun 30
Be free of religion and have relationship with the father.

Flee immorality
Have genuine love

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Religion / Re: Kingdom Prayers To Build Your Faith by gohf: 8:08am On Jun 30
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Religion / Re: God turns troubles into treasures by gohf: 8:08am On Jun 30
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Religion / Re: Something Great Is About To Happen To You And For You. by gohf: 6:32am On Jun 16
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Religion / Re: In Need Of Space For Bible Study And Prayer by gohf: 6:31am On Jun 16
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Properties / In Need For Space For Bible Study And Prayer by gohf: 6:07pm On Jun 11
We don't task our members nor burden them financially, I believe that people should come and drop their burdens at the feet of Jesus and we don't pay him for his blessings, his miracles and healings over our lives.

For to us the church is not a business but we are in need of your boat, a place we can sit and study the word of God and learn the right way to live that pleases God and to pray for God's help and power.

Jesus builds his church and we are his church, and the foundation of God's church and work is not money.

I don't know whom God would use to provide us a space but we pray and believe he will do so soon. Many of those we have evangelized to ask us where we worship but because we don't have a place to meet or a place they can come to, it has affected discipleship in a way. And I am talking about the some elderly, some poor who don't have mobile device apps and the like.

If you have a space in Lagos and you could let us use it for a while, may God touch your heart and do contact us on:

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Religion / In Need Of Space For Bible Study And Prayer by gohf: 2:37pm On Jun 11
We don't task our members nor burden them financially, I believe that people should come and drop their burdens at the feet of Jesus and we don't pay him for his blessings, his miracles and healings over our lives.

For to us the church is not a business but we are in need of your boat, a place we can sit and study the word of God and learn the right way to live that pleases God and to pray for God's help and power.

Jesus builds his church and we are his church, and the foundation of God's church and work is not money.

I don't know whom God would use to provide us a space but we pray and believe he will do so soon. Many of those we have evangelized to ask us where we worship but because we don't have a place to meet or a place they can come to, it has affected discipleship in a way. And I am talking about the some elderly, some poor who don't have mobile device apps and the like.

If you have a space in Lagos and you could let us use it for a while, may God touch your heart and do contact us on:

07034883485
Religion / Re: This Is Where And How To Come Across A Correct Spouse by gohf: 10:01am On Jun 09
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Religion / Re: When Same-Sex Marriages Are Performed In Your Church (Photos] by gohf: 10:00am On Jun 09
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Religion / Re: 8 Important Ways To Achieve Success As Christians. by gohf: 9:59am On Jun 09
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Religion / Re: Praying 1hr in tongues can transform you by gohf: 9:57am On Jun 09
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Religion / Re: Difference Between The INNOCENT And The FAITHFUL by gohf: 9:06am On Jun 08
MaxInDHouse:


Irrelevant!

Answer the simple question:

Children destroyed during Noah's day, Sodom and Gomorah, Jericho and Amalek are they IGNORANT or INNOCENT?
If the word of God is irrelevant to you why is my opinion important

I will answer you not according to your choice but according to the written word

THEY WERE WICKED. be it the little children that stole like their fathers or lied like their mothers.

THEY WERE WICKED.

If you like assume and conclude that because they were judged so, that all children are. That is your business.
Religion / Re: God turns troubles into treasures by gohf: 9:03am On Jun 08
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Religion / Re: Difference Between The INNOCENT And The FAITHFUL by gohf: 8:56am On Jun 08
MaxInDHouse:


Well God DESTROYED babies and sucklings so that means those babies aren't innocent as you have said earlier but some people want to assert that they are innocent so if God destroyed them and He only destroys wicked people definitely those babies are WICKED as in EVIL.

That's the import of this thread! smiley
God judged Jacob and Esau in the womb

He called Jeremiah from the womb

Do you think God is devoid of knowledge either of the present or the future to know those who are wicked and just.

Do you think his arm is too short to save those whom he finds have hearts that are like his.


God destroys that which isn't of His will, that which isn't His (what he planted), will a farmer not destroy weed?
Religion / Re: Difference Between The INNOCENT And The FAITHFUL by gohf: 8:52am On Jun 08
MaxInDHouse:


Guy you don't need all this epistle.

I asked you:

Your response:

So what are you saying again?
what is written?

You can't understand my words because you neither understand scripture nor know God.

Gen.6.5 Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

This was the basis by which he flooded the world. But Noah was saved because he was righteous and found grace in the eyes of God.

2Pet.2.5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly;
2Pet.2.6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly;

In the case of Sodom and Gomorrah the Lord came down to see for himself, to judge, to find those who were righteous. Are you saying the Lord is blind and he lied to Abraham whom he promised that he would spare the city if he found 10 righteous men?

1 Peter 3:19-20 did you read what Peter wrote that Jesus did?

Read Luke 13:1-5, people die not just because they are sinners but we have to repent so that we do not perish.

Your little mind assumes and therefore misinterprets even when it is explained to you, so you still ask, what are you saying again, because you have either closed yourself off reasoning and refused to listen or you are basically purposeful avoiding the truth.


You are actually the one that needs this epistles but if only you realise your need for it
Religion / Re: Difference Between The INNOCENT And The FAITHFUL by gohf: 8:22am On Jun 08
MaxInDHouse:

So they're not INNOCENT despite being babies shey?
Thanks! smiley
do you now see your wicked heart, of course you can't

Why did you not ask the babies why did you say children. Obviously was it not to deceive.

But you fail to understand something about God. Does God judge based on age?

You have so little understanding of God that you restore to petty deception to score some cheap online points. Go ahead and believe God will destroy the innocent with the wicked.

I must have missed this quote.

Do you even understand what the judgement of God is, do you think leaving this life is that judgement?

So people died is that judgement, didn't Jesus say repent or your fate will be far worse they theirs. Yet you think because children or in your terms babies die in natural disasters they were judged by God.

Whose children are they? Are they not children of men?

Would you justify yourself just to condemn God
Religion / Re: Difference Between The INNOCENT And The FAITHFUL by gohf: 8:10am On Jun 08
MaxInDHouse:




Interestingly most people think babies are innocent simply because they can't choose whether to be good or evil but here is another person who concluded that babies are evil as in WICKED! smiley
is it really about me or about God 😏

Was I the one to judge them so 🤷🏾‍♂️

Are you saying God judged wrongly and he destroys the innocent along with the wicked?

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