Nigerians should be ashamed of the three Presidential candidates they voted for knowing each of them are drug dealers and looters.

It is now my badass is better than yours.

Obi with multiple personalities in Europe and Asia is ignored because Ms. Chinenye Ezewuzie his drug mule is forgotten in Peru jail. Circumstances leading to his father's death in drug deal ignored.

We then blame our leaders when in fact their voters encourage crime and destruction at home.

Reinaldo:
We must start by ensuring criminals are far away from leadership positions

True but there are immoral behaviors that are equally or more devastating than crime.

It all started from individual homes and villages. If we don't not know where we are going, we know where we are coming from.

Most Ethnic Nigerians have turned into Silent Majorities. Extremists emulating repulsive characters in foreign countries to justify the destruction of themselves from within are celebrating deaths and destruction of their own people.

They started this melancholy dance by laundering trillions of American dollars abroad intentionally reducing their people to abject poverty that used to be seen in Asia but never seen in this part of the world.

They graduated to killing and maiming grassroots in their own own cities, towns and villages. Yet, they celebrate and campaigned of "progress" on it for Elections and re-elections

If different Think-tanks do not come out reorienting their people from the villages first, Africa is going back to the Dark Continent in the hands of Nigerians.

I find this clarion call for Yoruba to rise up out of their abysmal failures and live up to their God given potential, sobering.

If they are the descendants of the past civilization and children of First In Africa, they must withdraw from the money race that has brought abject poverty to their country and rebuild themselves.

Very sobering.

Most of us understand how you feel.

But remember that the ball or Keke belongs to Seun. Yoruba have a duty not only to be fair to all but also, to seem fair. Seeming fair can be taken differently by different people. Especially, opportunists without any care.

Admission of quilt in order to move on is what they pounce on. Some people think it is wise to apologize to your wife or husband for a better future.

XAUBulls:

I am just reading this thread Seun and I have deep insights and brutally honest truth to share with you all here that will open your eyes to prevent being guilt-tripped by despicable bigots and ignorant analyses.

That NL ad did NOT contribute to any violence in Lagos State. The Edo no be Lagos mantra which was all over NL is no different from this.


Several very TOXIC, irresponsible LIES and inciting posts by well-known NL Ibo trolls stating that the iconic Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN, died via suicide in 1987 from drinking rat poison are FALSE... and further more, the inciting posts that Lagos State is a "no man's land" by some Ibos, the unguarded past history of anti-Yoruba Twitter posts and past Ipob/biafra sympathy by Gbadebo Vivour, etc, triggered the sequence of ethnically charged events in some locations in Lagos State.


Besides, what apologies have YOU
Seun given to over 50 million people of Yoruba descent for the many TOXIC, vicious and criminally inciting anti-Yoruba, doctored videos and fake news that have been posted here on NL threads by irredentist Ibos and Ipob trolls for many years now and during every election cycle since about 2010?


I have been a veteran member of
NL since 2005 with an older
NL account, and there is massive digital evidence of TOXIC online attacks and cyberbullying of
Yorubas (Including the relentless, organised false attacks on the now
President-Elect of Nigeria, Bola
Tinubu), Kanuris (Including the criminal fake news that Kashim Shetima of APC is a Boko Haram terrorist sponsor was widely spread mainly by the Peter Obi supporters of Ibo origin on and off NL, and the false accusation was debunked by The BBC Global Disinformation
Team Report), Northerners, Itsekiris, Ijaws, and other minority ethnicities over territorial claims, geopolitics, rejection of Ibo secession by ethnic minorities and more.


Those who over the years are responsible for initiating hate speech and ethnically-based cyberbullying on and off NL will be brought to justice in sting operations! WhatsApp group administrators, and other online platforms are liable for the criminal incitements and defamation of character of public figures and citizens under existing Nigerian Cyber Crime laws. Ignorance of the law is NOT an excuse. Period.


Cc: Freestuffsng, Kininifoods

Extend loan remission and grants with a clause not to sell, to poor owners to bring these houses up to standard.

Those they want to sell them to are waiting in the corner.

Don't cry later that outsiders bought your houses and land o!

Bottom line, who throw out more hate than Igbo?

Why focus on an advert and blow it up into humogous empty vessel in order to project what they practice.

Did Obi win Lagos fair and square?

Did Gbadebo lose Lagos fair and square?

Why are they crying like Zik who could not be the Premier of Western Region?

Omoawoke:


Seun never jam.

The mistake he just made by creating this topic will be used to slaughter him.
I am sure they would have sent the screenshot to their whatzapp messages worldwide. They will mark him as their new enemy.
This guys look for anybody as scape goat to blame and cast their frustrations.
Seun needs serious media training. Him and Chinedu

Seun, I can understand where you are coming from. Most, not all, Yoruba are brought as OMOLUABI. You cannot translate it into liberal or today's "woke".

This is where AFENIFERE comes from.

You are right, it is not about the money. Give them a billion or borrow a trillion for them. It will never satisfy them. Indeed, it's their justification that they got you. Sometimes, silence works.

At the same time, I am not saying you should brush them off.

You must know how they killed the other popular site before yours. Ewuro warned him when he was trying to please Igbo at the expense of Yoruba. The same Igbo he was trying to accommodate, sent him vicious viruses until they killed that vibrant site.

Be careful, a word is enough.

Seun:

That obviously means that it was not about the money.

Jun 03, 2012

Only the usurpers think or want Eko to be no man's land.

Olorunsogo!

AFRICAN POLITICIANS BOASTFULLY "DEVELOPED" WEALTH INTO POVERTY

There is a President-Elect in Nigeria, but most do not believe any of the 3 candidates could restore our dignity. We dearly missed the days when Nigerians were welcomed and respected around the world. Nigerian institutions from Universities, Teaching Hospitals, Professionals to Police and Military were invited to prestigious institutions in and outside Africa. We contributed to Peace Missions around the world, building and developing budding institutions in Africa.

The face of poverty has shifted from Asia to Africa. Compared to when Nigerians were furious at Umaru Dikko for insinuating that he had never seen people picking food from the garbage in Nigeria as they do in the United States of America. The audacity that anyone in his right sense or mind would compare Nigeria flowing with honey and “wara” then, with poor people in the States was too much to bear. We rain curses on him for being so indifferent.

The Head of State then, General Gowon bragged that our problem is not money but how to spend the much we had. If you are wondering which country this was, we should. It is the same country politicians campaigned and are bragging of today that they have developed into the Poverty Capital of the world. The prodigal developers have passed the nightmare to our children. So, when you hear how they developed a place, understand where it came from.

Nigeria has three leading Presidential candidates that sold and campaigned on selling their country. When Africans exhibit tribal tendencies, xenophobia or lunge at one another's throats based on an ethnic group's control of their towns and cities; they leave politicians that sold most of their precious and productive land to foreigners unscathed.

Lebanese, Americans, Europeans and lately Asians do not generate the same resentment as Nigerian new developers. Though foreign developers bring technology with low paying jobs, they take out crippling profits leaving perpetual credit card (debt) payments. Who do you think are the beneficiaries of Tax-Free-Zones in Lagos, Nigeria?

American, European and Asian politicians campaign and regulate against businesses that invest money and technology (intellectual properties) outside countries in order to avoid living wages and increase profit. High technology manufacturing plants are more difficult to replicate locally because they take time, involve skills and financial investment that cannot be easily replaced by those seeking immediate raw cash.

It sounds unbelievable but it is true that some Africans, not foreigners, would turn the land of wealth flowing with honey and "wara" into abject poverty. It takes humans wasting or bereft of empathy, talents, dignity and callousness to impoverish a people while claiming to be developers of the states they govern. Yet, they have supporters defending any of the policies.

We were taught that it takes a village to raise a child in Africa. Good qualities other continents used to enhance their economic fortune and liberate themselves from the yoke of oppression, some of us used to subject our people to abject and perpetual poverty.

If you are looking for where a deluge of money can turn a whole country into the Poverty Capital of the world called development, look no further than Nigeria. This is where senseless accumulation of money stolen by individuals that should be invested in finished products at home have turned politicians, cronies and copycats trying to live up to them, to money launderers. When caught abroad, some have abandoned millions in foreign cash.

As the country gets poorer, a few individual pockets get heavier. If Nigerians campaign or boast to you that they develop a place, take a good look. They mean their pockets are full, at the expense of the place they wrecked. It is hard to develop people or a place by being clever by half, boasting of native intelligence without sharing, benefiting or respecting your host.

Any means is good for the swindlers, dire ritualists, drug peddlers and desperate voyagers to cross sea and desert at the risk of dear life. Many people from different countries wonder why a country in the Continent so blessed with natural resources and talents could be so selfishly mismanaged. Some claim talents flow to where they are rewarded. Well, most people gladly follow raw materials and money called rewards anywhere. Instead of developing them as finished products at home.

This writer begs to disagree that reward only comes in raw cash in exchange for raw materials. Those that focus on raw cash have not only lost their ways but they have also lost their minds. While it is true that many are willing to make the money first and worry about their minds and morals later, it is always too late when they have nothing to show for the money and are forced to suffer the consequences. Their recklessness and viciousness turn families into circular firing squads, killing progressive ideas that eventually result in abject poverty.

If these Nigerians were so industrious and intelligent, how did their country go from potential Regional Power to creators of poverty at home? Every other continent understands that the greatest returns on exploitation is from Africa; as long as you can get local partners willing to bleed and sell their countries raw. Unfortunately, the Nigerians that cannot wait to get out are not just the poor or unskilled. The best talents in Arts and Sciences are also rushing out, at the risk of their lives or becoming organ donors.

Indeed, Nigerians are now known in Africa countries and overseas in their penchant for their warped "generosity" in underdeveloping unsuspecting people and places. These villages, cities and countries eventually woke up and caught on to desperadoes. They react with lethal punishment, fearing they might turn their people and places into Nigeria, the Poverty Capital of the world. If they only know that Nigerian politicians have used the irony of poverty to gain positions and reelection into power at home.

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Labor Party and PDP need to hold APC down and on edge about Restructuring. Many people do not like Tinubu but you guys crowned him by dividing yourselves while he ran with the Prize!

Presidential is Election is over. The result demonstrated Labor Party as the most clannish, more than ever.

Obi came third. Move on jor.

Your internal projections on others will not justify why Ojuwu dressed like a woman and told you he dey go come or why Azikiwe used - he who fight and run will live to fight another day.

A traitor? Each time you lead Yoruba into Alliance, you send negotiators to the North throughout the history of Nigeria. Yet, hate Tinubu for doing the same only once!

Who is the traitor?

care4you:
Yoruba parents taught their children how to be a coward and a betrayer

...

The irony of what Yoruba Parents taught their children to tolerate strangers and how Igbo parents taught their children to hate has backfired big time, with no winners.

Since Yoruba did not make Azikiwe their Premier in the West, they cannot be trusted.

Azikiwe cherished himself as Yoruba leader than Nigerians Leader. No wonder he would rather give away Executive Prime Minister to Balewa than assume the position and give Awo the Finance Minister.

What a colossal lost opportunity as we see today. Bad bele is self-destructive.

There is nothing more embarrassing than telling foreigners that Africans modeled our constitution to theirs despite obvious cultural differences. We must stop adopting foreign constitutions, they are neither made for Africans nor are their framers more civilized than you. There are historical cultures and philosophies built into Western and Eastern political ways of life that are incongruous to Africa's: it takes a village to raise a child.

https://www.modernghana.com/news/1207440/harmonize-cultures-into-african-constitution.html

There is nothing more embarrassing than telling foreigners that Africans modeled our constitution to theirs despite obvious cultural differences. We must stop adopting foreign constitutions, they are neither made for Africans nor are their framers more civilized than you. There are historical cultures and philosophies built into Western and Eastern political ways of life that are incongruous to Africa's: it takes a village to raise a child.

When they claim that their legal system is built on Judaeo Christian philosophy, believe it. The reason for the constitutional assembly of representatives from all walks of life is to harmonize cultures and natural law that have kept civilized African Empires together and prosperous. So much so that cultures from far and wide are heard and harmonized.

We blame the constitution for everything including our own deliberate acts. We then blame it on those whose constitution we adopted. If the British system was not working in our favor, we tried American, French or Russian with their "experts" as advisors. We then claim some colonial master favored one ethnic group over the other. There are times and rooms to point out the fault of everyone when appropriate. But we must shoulder our responsibility, not cover it or hide under it.

We never accept that under any system, we were outplayed with the cooperation of our people within that were ready to hand over to those they think could be easily maneuvered. When it backfired, we blamed the constitution. We have to face reality at some point and take responsibility for our selfish actions. No, it is not the fault of the British or American system.

No matter whose constitution is adopted, some Africans will put their parochial interest first with or without a constitution. There are countries functioning well without constitutions. People of goodwill must guide their Rights, freedom of expression and liberty jealousy. Nevertheless, leaders with dictatorial tendencies have overridden their country's constitution. Soldiers have overthrown constitutional authorities and governed by force.

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Africa has the youngest median population age in the world. We must nurture the Youths for future tasks in order to compete right now and rise as a people later. We can encourage their contribution at home because they can never be adequately rewarded as outsiders. As a result, humans are willing to work harder against fear of hostility outside than in a place we are so comfortable.

Those that grew up when it took a village to raise a child in Africa, saw it as an obligation to make sure most children succeed. It created pride out of which many became confident African Freedom Fighters. Their penchant for natural and educational development for other children in ten years surpassed those of colonialism in a century. They were home grown and those that studied abroad returned home to serve.

Ask what you can do for your country not what your country can do for you: which an American President, J.F.K Kennedy used to motivate their Youths. African Youths must build, not rest on the blood and sweat of their grandfathers as Freedom Fighters all over Africa. Unless the Youths build on their struggles, our talents and natural resources will be enjoyed by outsiders that appreciate them more. The land, Mama and Papa may be rich; God bless the children that create their own wealth.

You know they have a compound turned into four story building at Enu Owa and Iduganran across Iga Oba of Lagos.

duro4chang:
IRESA AND ARESA

Our History! Our Culture!! Our Heritage!!!

Iresa was believed to have been founded by a prince of Ife called Aasa. The period when Aasa left Ile-Ife was uncertain, but it was reckoned to be after Olu-Ogbon Ese’s migration out of Ile-Ife.

Aasa, according to the tradition, was said to have left Ife without given his followers any information about his journey. After his departure, his followers had started looking for him. In the course of searching for him, those who met Aasa’s followers or crossed their part were said to have asked what they were seeking. They had answered they were seeking for Aasa; consequently, the name of the first settlement where they finally met Aasa was called Ipasa.

Aasa however left the Ipasa settlement for another place when he had some challenges, and founded another settlement where he became old and died. For his remembrance his relatives called that last settlement of Aasa Ire Aasa (that is, where Aasa was tired), simply Iresa.

It is equally noteworthy that before Aasa’s death, he had four sons and one daughter. Two of his sons and the daughter became mythological characters. One was deified as the river Ekoro and the other son as Egbedi Gun Aree (Ina). Meanwhile, the daughter Alake Odi became the river Ateere Ajeje (Omo Abo Aasa) and succeeded Aasa. When Alake Odi died, Ase the younger son of Aasa succeeded his brother as the Aresa of Iresa.

Moreover, Ikin was one of the Aresa that reigned after Ase. Ikin has twin sons, according to the tradition. The first of the twins, Taiwo was called Obatuapa or Aresa Adu while the second, Kehinde was Opalala or Aresa Apa. The immediate younger brother of these twins, Idowu, according to the story, was called Inisa. It was Idowu that founded the town of Inisa.

When it was time for Obatuapa to become Aresa, he insisted that Opalala his twin brother must also be made a king. Therefore, the Aresa territories were divided into two between Obatuala and Opalala. The two towns regarded themselves as one and they bore the same Orile cognomen, which is ‘Odi’.

In addition, the traditional account indicates that Omoninla who was the mother of Soun Ogunlola (Ogundiran Aisa Agbe’s father) was a younger sister of the trio of Obatuala, Opalala and Inisa, all children of Aresa Ikin.

kayode Joseph Onipede
(Ladoke Akintola University of Technology)

COPIED.

Serve when you are most productive, strong and agile or when you are in your 40s and 50s

AMERICA’S LOST CROPS REWRITE THE HISTORY OF FARMING
Our food system could have been so different.

By Sarah Laskow

OCTOBER 1, 2022.

That story went something like this. On this continent, agriculture—and therefore civilization—was born in Mesoamerica, where corn happened to be abundant. The more advanced people there began cultivating this knobbly little plant and passed their knowledge north, to people in more temperate climes. When Europeans arrived, corn ruled the fields, a staple crop, just like wheat across the ocean. If the Middle East’s Fertile Crescent was agriculture’s origin point for Europe, Mexico was agriculture’s origin point here. This very human innovation had unspooled in the same rare way in these two places. Superior men tamed nature and taught other superior men to follow

The old, epic story of agriculture in North America had two heroes, long sung and much venerated. One was human ingenuity. The other was corn.

That story went something like this. On this continent, agriculture—and therefore civilization—was born in Mesoamerica, where corn happened to be abundant. The more advanced people there began cultivating this knobbly little plant and passed their knowledge north, to people in more temperate climes. When Europeans arrived, corn ruled the fields, a staple crop, just like wheat across the ocean. If the Middle East’s Fertile Crescent was agriculture’s origin point for Europe, Mexico was agriculture’s origin point here. This very human innovation had unspooled in the same rare way in these two places. Superior men tamed nature and taught other superior men to follow.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2022/10/agricultural-revolution-is-wrong-corn-cultivation-lost-crops/671587/

Blind bat, you left one out of the three leading Presidential candidates you are clamouring for.

With the three Presidential candidates most of you are dying to elect, Nigeria will never move forward until you learn to revolt instead of pandering to vultures with known records of drug peddling, looting and terrorism.

The Youths want their grandparents in the grave to wake up and rescue them while they Japa.

onez:
Two clear and present dangers to the unity of Nigeria.
1. Atiku's quest for presidency after a northern Muslim Fulani.
2. Tinubu Muslim-Muslim ticket.

All hands must be on desk to stop these old fellas trying to implode our country by their greedy ambition.

AGONY OR JOY OF WAITING AS BLACK SON & DAUGHTER RETURN HOME

Children are social animals like most of us. It is becoming more dangerous in Africa as in Diaspora for both sons and daughters out there to roam around. We hear and read about Police stopping them but more so if they are Black in the Diaspora and at checkpoints in African big cities. Adolescents do not know how joyful parents are when they return home on time without getting into trouble, especially while driving.

It is so different these days with all kinds of crimes and Police brutality on the streets. Even good young men do get into trouble, unfortunately. The days most people go out and return home at any hour of the night or early morning are gone. We used to have all night parties with early breakfast. Some of you may wonder where and when. The only time you sleep over for breakfast these days is when your hosts are worried that you may not make it home alive.

Unfortunately, harassment is true not only in cities across Africa but also in Diaspora if you happen to be Black. The older ones are more careful about staying out too late. It is worse when you are one of the youths. Youths are not safe in the hands of bandits roaming around in communities or the authorities in uniforms that are supposed to Serve and Protect us. Youths are challenged for a variety of reasons from the style of their haircuts to that of their clothes.

Only the parents of Black sons know the agony of staying up many nights praying that their sons come back home safe and are not in trouble with the Police or bandits. It has got to a point where parents are more apprehensive about Police that are supposed to Serve and Protect than the criminals.

It is deadlier in the United States than anywhere else because Black young men can be stopped for driving-while-Black. Parents of Black boys must have the Talk with their children in case they are stopped at the Park, on the street while walking or driving. The former white New York mayor, Joe Blasio, had the Talk with his Black son. The Police Union labeled him racist for warning his own son about any encounter with the Police.

Our children wondered why we thought we grew up in Paradise in those days. Money was not the most important factor. We all had money because if you were poor, parents that were better off made sure they sponsored all the children for events. Sometimes, we sponsored one another in turn. One might have surplus for an event while he might not have enough for another. The good old days sweet o, no be small.

Boy, we were lucky in those days in Lagos. We used to go to parties and nightclubs too. In fact, a few of our friends had access to their popcies' cars. We had to be very careful because the cars were taken out of the house when parents were sleeping. We would drive around to collect others, especially the girls. Some of the girls would be waiting in front of their houses. The friend driving might not even have a full license!

A few of the girls lived in the back quarters for house help. But you would not know that until you dropped by one day and knocked on the main house asking for Baby. You would then be directed to the back quarters! Anyway, hardly would the Police stop anyone for looking young. You have to break some traffic violations. We always came back home early so that the parents would not wake up to find the car missing.

Boy, some of those girls in "bonfo", up-and-down, neatly plaited hair, cornrow and Afro haircut would make you quiver. The boys hairstyle in "bay", girls-follow-me or low-cut. The tight trousers were a pain in the butt. You had to set enough time to put them on and take them off. The shirts are well starched so that you could fly your polo.

We went to Church and Mosque not only on Fridays and Sundays but whenever there were some religious activities in-between. It was a good opportunity to "shadow" boys and girls, apart from sporting activities. The school uniforms, no matter the dictated colors, were also an opportunity to "shine". We complemented them with white tennis shoes which some of us adorned with white socks that displayed red, blue or black rings around the ankles.

Another bad habit was "stealing out". You could not go home without permission from the boarding house unless you want your parents to straighten your brain out with "kumo". In most cases students stole out because they felt they were in prison and would love to see the town or meet friends that were day-students. But if you were caught, you could be suspended so that you could get a good beating at home. This writer spent a suspension at day student house!

Holidays were the time to meet and plan parties together, especially for those of us that went to secondary schools outside the big cities. No matter how far we were from towns, mini buses from one motor park to another were good business during school holidays. Another chance to meet and make new friends. Time has changed. Parents now stay awake waiting for the safe return of their boys and girls from schools.

When we graduated from university we were looking forward to Volkswagen. The pride of "sisi come ride my Volks" was too much. We were not aware of any university graduates driving Peugeot, Volvo and Mercedes Benz. Those cars were for later stages in life. It was totally different from today where rich parents give their children luxury cars to drive and sometimes for drag racing on the few driveways that are not enough for the residents of the city.

How do we explain the same uncomfortable experience with local Police in African major cities? Most of these young Black boys have valid licenses and do not break any law. Yet they are pulled over for flimsy excuses asking for "particulars". They have been stopped for broken tail lights, hair styles or looking like Yahoo boys. They do not have the time to call their parents. In the first place it is not as deadly as in the Diaspora. The Police may not or may be justified on the suspicion of conspicuous display of wealth, drug peddling or ritual dealing.

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Are those specializing in African history, religion and culture to the PhD level better educated in foreign universities than African universities

Olu713,

I am happy with your reply which may also please some of those that disagree with you like me on the Bibble.

I just don't think we can hang on to the Bibble stories as ours. Indeed, many scholars think they sold the idea of Christianity as ours to recapture us again.

This is where we disagree. No problem, two reasonable people can disagree without being disagreeable.

I am trying to harmonize your info and those of others into one mainly because places were not known or divided into Africa, Europe or Asia. The world was not so divided by waters then.

No matter how you look at it though, earlier activities took place in Africa than outside of it. Mesopotamia, Ethiopia and Sudan were not so distinct as it became later. It has nothing to do with Afrocentrism. When European center everything around Greece and Rome, that admitted they came to Egypt to learn, you do not call them ethnocentric.

I see that you believe in the Bible story (of Flood for example) that clearly indicates that children of Abraham or those of Adam and Eve went outside to marry.

Marry who, in which world?

Olu317:
I am not a fan of Afrocentricism without evidence. In Yoruba cosmology, Africa does not exist in the account of creation or the time the world was destroyed by Flooding. How many African legends refers to Flooding destruction of the world?

Hardly will ever find cuneiform account which dated back to 5000 years in these places you mentioned .

I do not like assumption as people with pride on Africa without concrete evidence. Yes, Africa was part of the larger world when civilization evolved but not solely Africa.

The oldest temple where religion was ever acknowledged is in Turkey. So, do not replace fact with opinion.

Peradventure, you have evidence which surpassed the Obelisk in Sudan that dated to 15000 years, then showcase it.

Olu317:
Lower Egypt.This was where the Hebrew came through to arrived back into Egypt and expansion of the religion named christianity.

I am sure you know that most of the origin of religion, civilization, Arts and Sciences took place in "Upper" Egypt which was SUDAN areas!

Sir, which Egypt are you referring to or where in Egypt?

" Upper or Lower" Egypt