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Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 11:44am On Dec 27, 2013
OlaoChi:

Am not slandering, I gave my thought
There's no other person I know that fits that description

Can you take?

OlaoChi:
And am not a spiritualist are you?
Pardon me, but u always sound like one. do you care to answer the question? that is if u know anything about what u're defending.
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 11:32am On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind:

I don't think I understand the bolded. Care to elucidate?

Remember this is what theism means



And what word is it you have for atheists?
Typo!
Exactly!
It is personal but not an insult on anybody.
Religion / Re: *my Question For Any Interested Party.* by harbiola1(m): 10:43am On Dec 27, 2013
BabaGnoni:

@harbiola1

Jesus died for the sin of the world, the whole wide world

Jesus' death is the substitution of the death which was the penalty or wages of sin

Jesus' blood cleansed, that one time, continually washes, so no stain of sin, of the past, present and future remains or sticks.

The price of sin is paid - all personal sins and the Adamic sin

Now the child does not stand condemned when a child dies at infanthood before knowing anything about Jesus

or without the opportunity to believe or disbelieve that Jesus died not only for our sin nature but also for all our acts of sin

harbiola1, you grossly underestimate the level headedness of God

God is equitable, dealing fairly and equally with everyone

He is Just, Right and Impartial; fair and reasonable

So just as you asked, Where is that child died at infanthood afterlife abode, Hell or Heaven?

Surely, it is not in the lake of fire, which is the second death, where Death and Hades were thrown into.

There is no need to be making our answers somehow unclear. It is a simple question and believe the answer should be as simples Yes yes yes, or No no no.

Now what i understand here is that, Jesus died for everyone's sin though, but until u profess that he did, he hasn't done it for you.

And if you're unable to accept Jesus as a Lamp due to some circumstances, then you will still pay the debt of adam's sin here but u're free from it in afterlife.

What Merit do those that accepted Jesus as a lamp have over those that didn't on judgement day?
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 10:06am On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind:

Lol, NONE.

You can also ask him what justification he has to accept one God (monotheism) over several Gods (polytheism) and I bet you he will go round n round without answering your question.
It is not a mistake that i can control my mind but couldn't control others'.
I always prefer debating theists, even pagans.

I don't believe that there is something like theism and that is why i've my own word for atheists.
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 10:06am On Dec 27, 2013
rationalmind:

Lol, NONE.

You can also ask him what justification he has to accept one God (monotheism) over several Gods (polytheism) and I bet you he will go round n round without answering your question.
It is not a mistake that i can control my mind but couldn't control others'.
I always prefer debating theists, even pagans.

I don't believe in theism that is why i've my own word for atheists.
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 9:55am On Dec 27, 2013
OlaoChi:

Argh! More boring comments

Read books about ancient Semitic religions, Abraham was a pagan Moon servant from Iraq

There are over 10000 Gods wink tongue
Lets check this out; Who is
Olorun,
Oluwa,
Olodumare,
Sango and
Obatala?

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Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 9:48am On Dec 27, 2013
plaetton:

This is very laughable.
And what proof have you present that there is a god, and only one at that?
As long as atheism is concern, the bolded is what i can't venture into, but it exists.
undecided

And the Sin story that you were writing on, it would be fair that u bring it here and lets see if it's true or false. If it's true, then you can keep spreading it but if it false then you ought to stop spreading it. I hope you have a conscience.?
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 9:32am On Dec 27, 2013
OlaoChi:


I know that someone is Mohammed wink
This is Slandering because the poster hasn't given a smallest evidence to buttress his claim. As a spiritualist, Slandering is an insult on ur patron, provided he is not Satan.
Religion / Re: Boko Haram: 50 Christians Burned To Death In Pastor’s Home by harbiola1(m): 8:09am On Dec 27, 2013
Well, it seems this is the only point that christians are having against Islam rather than Muslims. But hopely Islam will overcome this challenge like christianity slightly did. Even though, their large scale killings lasted for centuries but it doesn't change its adherents name as the Follower of Prince of Peace. InshaAllah Muslims will not reach christians' black record before this would stop.
If you like say Amin, and if you like pray that it continues forever.
My Deen is mine while those people's are theirs.

If this killing could invalidate Islam as a faith, there wn't be a christian in the planet earth.
Religion / Re: *my Question For Any Interested Party.* by harbiola1(m): 7:23am On Dec 27, 2013
Freksy:

"For he that is dead is freed from sin." Rom 6:7

"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." Rom 6:23

At death, the child has already paid the penalty of the inherited sin, and is freed from its bondage. Many who die under such condition will most likely be resurrected. It reserves exclusively to God. In consistent with the above is Acts 24:15: "And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust" KJV

The unjust May be such ignorant babies, our great great... Grand parents, and the physically challenged who never had the opportunity, or were not privileged to learn about God and make their decisions whether to serve him or not


I hope i'm correct if i say Jesus didn't die for such child since [s]he had to pay for his/her iniquity?

Then, where is his/her afterlife abode, Hell or Heaven?
Religion / Re: *my Question For Any Interested Party.* by harbiola1(m): 10:44pm On Dec 26, 2013
lana_Vello: God makes the decisions and is in charge of judgement.
How does this answer the question?
Religion / Re: Who Are The True Followers Of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him ??? by harbiola1(m): 10:40pm On Dec 26, 2013
Joshthefirst: no. I'm not in the mood for arguments over words. What I have posted before is the best I can give to this thread. People will read it and change.
Lol, like zombie, Raca? undecided
Religion / Re: Who Are The True Followers Of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him ??? by harbiola1(m): 10:40pm On Dec 26, 2013
Joshthefirst: no. I'm not in the mood for arguments over words. What I have posted before is the best I can give to this thread. People will read it and change.
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 9:52pm On Dec 26, 2013
OlaoChi:

You again undecided well you misunderstood because Sin is also the name of a Babylonian God
I read somewhere that he was Abraham's original God before he went to present Israel

So you see there are more than one God tongue
You can't be taken seriously until you present ur proof.

And mind you, there is only One God, however, polytheists could invent their own false-god (Idols).

You don't want to start this with me, do you?
Religion / *my Question For Any Interested Party.* by harbiola1(m): 9:30pm On Dec 26, 2013
It is generally agreed in christiandom that a child is born with sin automatically inherited from his/her parents. This sin can only be traced back to Adam/Eve through whom every mankind is a sinner right from womb. Only Jesus is free from this sin because of his immaculate conception. therefore, everybody must accept Jesus as his/her lord and saviour before [s]he could be free from Adam's heritage.
Failure to profess Jesus as such make a person to remain a sinner and Alas, no sinner will inherit the Kingdom of Heaven

*My Question for any interested party.*

If a child is born with sin, what would be his/her fate if that child died at infanthood before knowing anything about Jesus?
Religion / Re: Who Are The True Followers Of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him ??? by harbiola1(m): 7:46pm On Dec 26, 2013
Joshthefirst: sorry, I'm not prepared to start arguing with you now.

Merry Christmas. smiley
Who wants to argue with you, Me?

You're hiding behind a pretext. undecided
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 7:14pm On Dec 26, 2013
plaetton: Good research.
Perhaps you are also aware that Sin was an ancient Babylonian Moon god.
Many many millennia later, Nebuna-Id King of Babylon, is said to have been instructed by his patron god, Sin, the moon god, to revive his worship. This he did.
But against hostility from other religions, the worshipers of the moon god Sin, moved and later settled in Arabia, after the reign of King Nebuna-Id of Babylon.
Though a minority in Arabia, they continue to worship the moon god as the supreme El.

At around the sixth century AD, someone decided to elevate the worship of the moon god Sin, to new levels.
The rest, they say, is history.
Sin (English): Offense against a religious or moral law.

Sin (Arabic): The 12th letter of the Arabic language.

The word Sin is an English word and it has no meaning when transliterated to Arabic language.

Dhanb(Arabic): Is the word that was translated from Arabic to English language in English quran.

And i'm sure that the Arabic word Dhanb is not translated to Sin in German, French and many other languages.

So the purpose of sin in English quran is to convey a message from Arabic to English language.

Hmmm, at the bolded, i guess u're trying to tell us something?

Lets gain from you since u're for real.
Religion / Re: Who Are The True Followers Of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him ??? by harbiola1(m): 5:45pm On Dec 26, 2013
@Joshthefirst, have u got the above q
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 5:36pm On Dec 26, 2013
Princewell2012: I believe allah is God, but i dont believe the way and the style our muslims counterpart are worshiping him.
Infact, May God bless you! The bolded is the main difference between us. Who they are working for is not as clear as their intentions.
Religion / Re: Question: Did God Fulfil His Covenant With King Ahaz? (Virgin Birth) by harbiola1(m): 4:53pm On Dec 26, 2013
FrancisTony: grin
Move pata pata to Joke section, undecided
Islam for Muslims / Re: "Why I Converted To Islam' - Former Actress Vivian Metchie Opens Up by harbiola1(m): 2:21pm On Dec 26, 2013
Lil B®ight™©:
Firstly I don't read/understand Arabic Secondly I'm in all ways pleased with the Bible, thanks for your offer
I don't think u understand Hebrew/Greek but u do read Bible, isn't it?
Islam for Muslims / Re: "Why I Converted To Islam' - Former Actress Vivian Metchie Opens Up by harbiola1(m): 2:14pm On Dec 26, 2013
Phoenix619: Who's she? Never heard of her. And why's she going into yorobawood instead of Nollywood? All this talentless actresses sef.

It won't be long before we hear of alhaji somewhere. Who knows if her ex is really the father of her children.

;P
Haba, all this just because she left christianity. I believe ur faith talks about civility, then how come u're like this?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: For Those Considering To Leave Islam for Christianity by harbiola1(m): 2:00pm On Dec 26, 2013
ebenice: JESUS said HE IS THE WAY,THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE..and its only thru HIM that mankind can obtain salvation and gain access to God and HEAVEN. Any other claim by any other prophet contrary to that FACT is a FARCE
Delusions!!!
Religion / Re: "My Wife Is Pregnant - Will My Daughter Be Born In Sin? If So -- Why?" by harbiola1(m): 12:47pm On Dec 26, 2013
harbiola1: @ALL, Can I ask a question?
This is my Question for any interested party.

If everybody is born with sin, what would be the fate of a child that died before knowing anything about Jesus?

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Religion / Re: Who Are The True Followers Of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him ??? by harbiola1(m): 12:29pm On Dec 26, 2013
Joshthefirst: faith man! Simple faith. Think for a while, don't be decieved. Is God an honest and mighty and good judge? Capable of punishing sin? Yes?
Now are you guilty of sinning? yes? Then why do you want to use your good works to bribe God?

How do you think God as a good judge will be impressed by a man guilty, condemned of sin giving and praying and still indulging in sin because of his imperfections? Its like speaking to a judge as a condemned criminal and saying "ccommon good judge, can't you let me off the hook? I've washed your car, I've built monuments in your name, release me judge". Its a clear bribe. That's why the bible says our self righteousness are as filthy rags before God. Its cuz we're imperfect and condemned already.
Do you think God will forgive you during judgement? On what basis then? As a good judge, his very goodness will cast you, as well as me and all of humanity into hell!

That's why Jesus is important. The very Jesus you fight against is the saviour. As God will not compromise the standards of judgement and his integrity, Jesus took on flesh and came down, AND BECAME YOUR SUBSTITUTE, bearing Gods wrath for your imperfections and sins, and delivering us from our imperfect natures. Through trust and faith in his sacrifice, we are counted as righteous and good before God. Through trust and faith.

This is the power of the christian message. This is what makes men sacrifice their lives as missionaries to go to your abode. They have a message to pass across man.

The wages of sin is Death. But the FREE-GIFT of GOD is eternal life through Jesus Christ our lord.


We are all guilty, but he came to bear our eternal punishment. How can you make a false image of God as a corrupt judge who will accept bribes of good works?

Receive Jesus today and receive life, and favour from God, and salvation from sin, and citizenship of heaven.

God bless you smiley
I hope you're ready for this?

What is Work and what is Faith?

Can you do a religious work without Faith?
Religion / Re: The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 11:26am On Dec 26, 2013
Q 114:1-6:
1. Say, I seek refuge with (Allah) the Lord of Mankind.
2. The King of Mankind.
3. The Ilah (God) of Mankind.
4. From the evil of the whisperer.
5. Who whispers in the hearts of Mankind.
6. From among the Jinn and Manking.

Q 113:1-5:
1. Say, I seek refuge with (Allah) the Lord of the daybreak.
2. From the evil of what He created.
3. And from the evil of the darkening (Night) as it comes with its darkness.
4. And from the evil of the witchcrafts when they blow in the Knots.
5. And from the evil of the envier when he envies.

Q 112:1-4:
1. Say, He is Allah, the Sole.
2. The Self-Sufficient Master.
3. He begets not, nor was He begotten.
4. And there is none co-equal unto him.
Religion / Re: "My Wife Is Pregnant - Will My Daughter Be Born In Sin? If So -- Why?" by harbiola1(m): 9:35am On Dec 26, 2013
@ALL, Can I ask a question?
Religion / Re: Question: Did God Fulfil His Covenant With King Ahaz? (Virgin Birth) by harbiola1(m): 5:51am On Dec 26, 2013
OlaoChi:
Well you not worth my time undecided
Good for you.
Religion / Re: Who Are The True Followers Of Jesus Peace Be Upon Him ??? by harbiola1(m): 10:01pm On Dec 25, 2013
Joshthefirst: Who are the ones who think God can be bribed by their "good works" to give them a place in heaven?

Who are the people who think shallow works can cover up their secret sins and gain them favour in the sight of God-the-Judge?
If i may ask, if not good-work then WHAT?

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Religion / Re: Question: Did God Fulfil His Covenant With King Ahaz? (Virgin Birth) by harbiola1(m): 7:18pm On Dec 25, 2013
OlaoChi:

Do u have a problem with ur Aunt?
All my Aunties are Muslimahs while u're what i called u. I don't have any problem with them and i don't think u worth my beef. undecided
Religion / The Historical Origin Of The English Word "God". by harbiola1(m): 5:51pm On Dec 25, 2013
We are reviewing the Origin of English Language and English word "God".

The Historical Origin Of English Language.

Historically, English originated from the fusion of closely related dialects, now collectively termed Old English which were brought to Eastern Coast of Great Britain by Germanic settlers (Anglo-Saxons) by the 5th Century. With the word English being derived from the name of the Angles, and ultimately from their ancestral region of Angeln.
A significant number of English words are constructed on the basis of roots from Latin (e.g Iesus>Jesus) because Latin in some form was Lingua Franca of the Christian Church and of European intellectual life.



The Historical Origin Of English Word "God".

The earliest uses of the word God in Germanic writing is often cited to be in the Gothic Bible or Wulfila Bible, which was the christian bible as tranlated by wulfila into the Gothic language spoken by the eastern Germanic or Gothic tribe.

During the fourth century, the Goths were converted to christianity, largely through the efforts of Bishop Ufilas who translated the bible into the Gothic language in Nicopolis ad Istrum in today's Northern Bulgaria. the words Guda was used for God in the Gothic Bible.

Some variants forms of the name Odin such as the lombardic Godan may point in the direction that Lombardic form actually comes from Proto-germanic Wudanaz.
Wudinaz is the reconstructed Proto-germanic name of a god of Germanic paganism, known as Odin in Norse mythology, Woden in Old English, Wodan or Wotan in Old high Germanic and Godan in the Lambordic language.

Godan was shortened to God over time and was adopted/retained by the Germanic peoples of the British isles as the name of their deity, in Lieu of the Latin word Deus used by the Latin speaking christian church after conversion to christianity.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_(word)

I call this, "A DEADLY TRAP" for today's monotheist faiths.
We can do without being involved in Pagan practices (worship, festivals...)but unfortunately, Monotheistic people as at today can not do without using a name that was once used to invoke an Idol. May these people be rewarded according to their intentions. But our Creator/God has come to stay and MashAllah we'll not be questioned for it.

Now, before the adoption of Pagan god in the 4/5 century, What was/is the name of God in Christiandom?

Many languages predate Christianity and each has different name for the Creator. Jesus was borne into an Aramaic spoken community, so it was generally agreed that Jesus and his Disciples spoke Aramaic language.
The Aramaic's name for God (Elah<God / Elaha<The God) was derived from Northwest Semitic noun Il/El (Elohim) which is usually translated as "God/YHWV" in the Hebrew Bible.
Mark 15:34 and Matthew 27:46 reported that Jesus called God "Elah" on the cross.

The Assyriac rendition of Aramaic word "Elah" is "Alaha"

The Arabic word "Allah" was derived from Northwest Semitic noun Il/El. Allah is a contraction of Arabic definite article Al-"The" and Ilah [Sole] "Deity".

Some people have allowed lie to take over their lives. But unfortunately for them, Lie will always be shamed in the presence of the truth.

They are spending money to extract false materials to malign Islam, Whereas, what they are looking for is at their backyard. Adopted and Nursed by their role models, what is it? Idolatory!shocked

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

Here comes the secret of Islam. Q5:3. "... Have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Allah. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed my favor upon you and have chosen for you Islam as your DEEN.

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