davien:
An open mind does not mean swallowing a claim,it means giving someone a chance to prove his case....i've given you a chance and all you keep coming up with are just arguments from ignorance.. i.e "don't know x therefore i'll believe it's y"..

Unexplained things do not equate to there being a supernatural entity at play....many known things today where once explained by people like you as handiwork of one god or the other...from a rain god,to a sun god,to an earthquake god,etc...you are just following the trend of those people...following blindly that which you want to believe because there is no explanation for it...

Unfortunately devin, I won't be able to keep on with this banter, no point going back and forth with no confluence man.

menesheh:


Is it some sort of deistic god. You can't just start adoring fantasies without any justification. There must be something or a medium that you are convinced of its existence before adoring it. since you claimed that all religions don't worth it in your post.
It is Logically fallacious and weird to believe in unknown thing that bear no link on reaching it.

Unfortunately you see it fallacious but I find it as some sort of thing that check balance my way of life.

You said this;

"It is Logically fallacious and weird to believe in unknown thing that bear no link on reaching it."

Blatantly enough there is no where I've made some similar subliminal towards your reason for believing in atheism. We both deserve respect of beliefs man,its no force.

davien:
Good,so why do you insist on it being correct for yourself?....is your reason justified enough for everyone or can anyone use it to believe anything?

Bro I insist on it for myself cause it has really helped me to preach more love than hate.

Well can anyone use it to believe anything? Yes so far the person deem it fit, moreso,if the person is moral enthusiast then he may find it worthy.

I'm not here to convince someone to fall inline with it,this is just my own belief and soley responsible for my actions.

davien:
You can play the guilt trip all you want....i'm asking you questions not because i don't adhere to your beliefs but to make you aware they're not coherent and are not well-founded...that's it.

It was clear you wanted to eat your cake and have it by saying you despise religion but believe in a god that shares characteristics with mainstream religion and thus unfounded as the religious one is...

Its no guilt card bro, you mention my beliefs are not well grounded? They are not well grounded cause you never open a clear mind to it, look farther than your nose with your eye there lies your mouth.

Yeah,I belief there is a creator cause I've seen things beyond explanation of man, things human hasn't go beyond, things beyond human knowledge,this you know but you won't agree and I'm not here to make you agree either cause I respect your beliefs so should do mine.

davien:
And doesn't that fly in the face of everyone having a moral compass that you claimed?

It can't fly in the face of everyone one that's why its not meant for everyone one, there are 99 beliefs in the world this is just one, its voluntary not a must .

davien:
And herein lies the problem...you despise religion yet you follow the same routine when your belief is questioned....

You mean I don't tolerate further discussions when my views are questioned,isn't it? Yea cause I know I've told you all I know but still won't adhere to me cause we don't follow same beliefs, individual difference bro, what else do you want me to say bro? I know you want me to tell you what you want to hear but this are clearly my views,if I hid anything my conscience be the judge man.

Between cool meeting you.

davien:
I've seen people who don't and it's the amygdala in the brain where such empathy comes from....any damge to that or genetic disease affecting that and you'd be a psychopath....

You've seen who don't? Definitely such person is not mentally stable. I've got a conscience and it guides and judge me,believe me its really help me.

Its a free world to associate to any belief it makes the world interesting.

davien:
who said it did?...
We've studied planet formation to be nothing more than the force of gravity acting up on solar accretion disks to form planets
Living things are a mystery....the rest have naturalistic origins backed up by evidence and facts...the moon is a leftover from the earths formation...i could provide peer reviewed papers of this if you want...
I don't know why you keep saying "coincidence" as if that's my position because it isn't.....but i get where you're coming from,your thinking is split in two(either A or B)... i.e either a god is at play or "coincidence"

Feelings have no say in the reality of things....people all over from time immemorial have let their "feelings" tell them many wrong things...from the earth is flat to black people are inferior to mirrors are magical to rain is someone opening a tap in the sky...can you separate yourself from them since you also base your belief on feelings?

I didn't decide one day to be an atheist...i looked at the support for everything i believed in and it was based on inaccuracies....back then i believed in UFO's,big-foot,magic,god,conspiracies,etc....now i'm amazed i made it out because the more you fill your mind with inaccuracies the more your perception of reality becomes inaccurate and since perceptions are what we base our choices and actions on,the more bad choices and actions you make...

Good luck bro,I'm not here to deliver a sermon,to each is own,you don't believe in a creator,I believe in one that makes us different then since we both don't have a thing in common or a confluence then no need over-flogging the issue bro. I've a good time mahn.

menesheh:


Which of the creator are you adoring and making him to feel like the creator?

How did you arrive at the conclusion that your conscience is truly leading you to a creator, after guiding and judging yourself with your conscience?

The creator I'm adoring is the architect and engineer of the universe, the one who knows all,the supreme supernatural being.

Don't get it twisted,never said my conscience is leading me, what I alluded to was that my conscience is my guide,when I'm about hurt my fellow human feelings,my consciences pricks me to tell me I'm about todo the wrong thing,and if I go recalcitrant it will judge me, its called guilty conscience.

Have you ever pick someones pen in an exam and the owner needs it badly that he/she found themselves helpless and guilty conscience pricks you so hard that you had to return it?

menesheh:


I respect your opinion too. I just asked you some questions which you never answer.

What question bro?

menesheh:


Which of the creator are you adoring and making him to feel like the creator? And in the other way round saying that your conscience should be your guide and judge.

How did you arrive at the conclusion that your conscience is truly leading you to a creator, after guiding and judging yourself with your conscience.

This is my belief,I chose it cause its my opinion,you chose yours cause is what you belive and I respect your opinion,I can't change you so you can't do that to me also.

davien:
Engaging in differing opinions are what make us more knowledgeable...you can be convinced of a god all you want but when you come in an open forum to share such views you've given out that laxity of privacy...

I get your point, but you know what I believe the world didn't create itself, and surely there must be something behind the world, the climate,vegetation,sun,moon,stars, I feel all this things are not coincidence,there is something supernatural telling the world to act the way it is not scientist or human. Or have humans told the sun to surface at night and it happened? I believe in a creator.

I can't change you bro,so you can't change me,its a decision. I don't just support the idea of religion that's all.

davien:
By your logic...if every living thing has a leader and that leader is the same specie and not divine in any way,why would humans have a super metaphysical being as a leader and not a fellow human,unless ants and the rest have their own gods modelled in their own image?

And since the universe isn't a living thing then no "king or leader is needed"....

Mister,I'm not an atheist,I believe in God and not just religion.I know you an atheist,but I can't engage your opinions cause it will differ.

D.O(difference of opinion)

I'm born as a Christian,but my grand parents were muslim, but you know as a man you need to make some certain decisions. The whole contradicting things I see in islam-Christianity as really made me go into recluse to ask myself a lot of questions.

Is this whole religion a lie?

Was there Christianity and islam during the days of oduduwa or whatever founding fathers? Still this old-men knew the right from wrong, knew if they put a knife or gun to a living soul it means death.

I asked myself do you really need a bible or a quran to tell you if you do that its a sin? So I came into conclusion that a mans conscience is his greatest judgment! Believe me,no matter how hard you are,your conscience will pick you when you going wrong.

When I look at various segregation amidst Christians,so many doctrines,inter congregation hate,so many wars by sunni and shiate muslims in the world,I ask myself is religion worth it? No.

But one certain thing is this, I believe there is a Creator somewhere, cause every living-thing as a king,progenitor, ants as kings,humans have leaders. so,I so much believe there is a Creator,I believe I need to adore him,make him feel like the Creator he really is,and let my conscience be my guide and judge.

Nighas hunger for hate is real AF! You thirsty you want to drink? Drink the nigha pee!

Cut him some slack and go find a way some cow-dung filled up cranium cretinious goblin looking model will wake your dead career back to life like its lazarus!

Stop hating on the nigah so you won't choke on the beef you eating

"Make money don't make jokes"-jcole.

mabella123:
He is Jst broke. Just like the prodigal son in the bible that asked his father to give him his own share of wealth and after squandering it comes back to beg for forgiveness. Don jazzy just wish him well and let him go.


Not looking forward to any collabo from mavins wit him. Go and sell your koko garri to kanye west. He just might be interested.

"Make money don't make jokes"- Jcole

Can cook

Pretty

Loyal!

Once a lady is loyal others will fall into place, you will teach her how to have sex and since she's loyal she will learn n submit,sense of style? I can always teach her how to dress,she will learn cuz she's loyal, class? I can always teach her how to have class and she will learn since she's loyal she will submit, great body? I can always take her to the gym and let her workout for this,since she's loyal she will submit and learn!

The only thing I can't teach her is being smart,its a natural thing! But who cares?

Feature: my physique
Personality: my cockiness,and zeus fury

Feature: my physique
Personality: my cockiness,and zeus fury

This nation is doomed! Sincerely I don't think nigerians ever wish she succeed, I don't think the populace mean well for her.

With crumbs you will buy their soul!

Is not worth it to die for an average nigerian, cause they look like some complacent dummies, why did I find myself in this misery of a country Nobody is striving to push it to great heights! Like education not reflecting!

You separated by religion,ethnicity now party!!!

Lord you know I deserve better than here, I don't just understand how grown up support corruption cause of party,religion,ethnicity blindly!

Inshort fu-ck every citizen slowing this nation down!
I pray all your kids don't grow! You accumulate wealth your generation will never use!

Is like the black people got noodles in their brains! The so called elites are just like cavemens.no direction, nothing nothing!

Imagine waking up to this kinda comments on nairaland! Just imagine! Do this people look like those who have access to education

I can't believe a guy compared sport to loosing your body to a bomb in faraway iraq cause of you serving your country, really? Like seriously and you deem it worthy of posting?

"Nighas talk about a lot of sh1t they aint being through it"-Bas

49cents:


when last did you deliberately play any of the dbanjs song on your phone to feel good or dance to?

which bar or club plays dbanjs songs


when last did you see dbanj on any major event in nigeria from star trek to AYLIVE etc


i think dbanj should stick to his agricultural business as he has run completely out of great songs like he had in the past



see wizkid, olamide continously reeling out hits ihat you dont have to call list thier hits

Young man!!! You trashcan meant for the bin and never tobe recycled!

You compare dbanj to wizkid or olamide??

You still want dbanj to be releasing hit like wizkid

Just like sayn kanyewest should still be releasing hit like kendrick.

Hating aint good mahn,stoop eating beef,avoid it for you tobe great also!

Are psquare,2face,9ice still releasing hit like wizkid and olamide??

Sincerely time no dey but I find your hatred amusing!!!!!

safarigirl:
Warrisdis abeg? Which lain rubbish song be this?

This is almost as bad as Iyanya's Gift....imagine, "who is knocking on my door?" na the only thing e just dey sing, where is the sense?
Only thing he succeeded in doing is waving the Nigerian flag around and going by how shitty this song is, I wish he had kept the flag away from such shitty ,usic

Damn! So much hate from just 10 fingers, cool down young lady, the video is okay and the song is cool, nice harmonica.

You don't need to vituperate, you aint NBC to tell good music,after all where is the good tune in nigeria? The guy as made his mark,get your own act right too.

A lot of confused fellow on this thread, I never bothered reading the long junk,cause from the first letter it reeks of inner hate.

How do you compare a 3months to 6years? You goofed higer when you said the government is direction-less, like seriously? 3months of 4yrs is direction-less? You need to take a break and focus on what you've also done in your environ than writing tirades.

You said your friend name is caleb,but your moniker says calebosko! Are you just too silly? Your IQ is so low that you can't tell a good lie, tell us you want to ask if you handsome and stop all this sermon you aint TD jakes! To be a model you need more than handsomeness! You need a brain! A working brain! Not a brain using working with solar energy hereby making dumb post during rainfall!

You had too sit near your wardrobe for this photo shoot?

I don't pity lecturers, may God uphold his home.

Good or bad lecturer I no fit stop a time bomb for a lecturer if I get chance, the strong thing wey dem do me! Kai I thank God sha.

Where the good one dey when the bad one dey winshi people?

sukkot:
Bros i hope say you get bullet proof vest oooo. this wan no be town center wrestling with ikemefuna over who will take home the new yam. this one na heavy artillery we dey bring come find you

Quote of the day! Wahalai! Alaye you be werey ooo, asin o kala gan!

shrek4:


I remember being in a cafe with u at Oke Odo... WiiClick.

While I was helping you with ur fone, did u realize those guys were staring at your butt as you walked by to the balcony? And when u eventually left, you should have seen the look on their faces.

bleeping snitch! Like say you sef no look the booty, you fit swear say na only phone you dey repair?

Some are just naturally wired to be slave,stupid and ignorant, just imagine most of the comments here? Kai! Suffering and smiling!

Is this the best way you can serve your country in this health threatening situation? Nawa oooo!

No wonder our leaders looting to the hilt they know they've got some naturally brainwashed followers.

Mr soe, you've got a big analysis right here, I think what its need is just a military brush up by the edges your deep piece but alas! We are in a country where people on nairaland doesn't believe in it not to talk of some big belly officer. One day we will get it right.

Sleekyshuga:

I am not Yoruba, so why should I know what 'museya' mean ?

And what am I doing with ease cos I can't relate it to my DP ?

He was only referring to olamide song, "museya" means the time of cloth or skirt that is easy for a man to have a quickee with a lady,the type of cloth that's easy to maneuver for s3x

emmatok:

Typical Black woman mentality to black men. Your are also guilty of everything you said about Black men. You are Suffering from low self esteem.

Okay fine I suffer from low self esteem, are juicy now?