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Ekiti people are talkative,rude,lazy, mannerless and drinks a lot |
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Those women can't be alaafin wives because they are not so young like that except olori folashade,perhaps some are his daughters. |
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iwonbaoko:.Well I may not be able to convice you on alaafin position pertaining to Awujale throne establishment since there are several versions of ijebu history.The name Yoruba was christened by people outside northern fringes of oyo empire and that doesn't exclude other oodua people.When oyo dominated the colonial force in yorubaland,our fathers should not have hurried for rebellion because of waiting infiltration of yoruba enemies rather,they resorted to fighting oyo for independence,and the war continues even during british scrabble.They could not resist british colonialisation due to disunity among them which could have given us a chance to be a nation like the ashante did either victorious or not.As for me,I prefer Oyo colonisation to the modern slavery of yoruba people in Nigeria. 1 Like |
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IKU BABA YEYE(one who orders death sentence) ALASE EKEJI ORISA(second in command to gods) OBA TI N FOBA JE(the king that crown kings) OBA TI N GBA IDOBALE OBA(the king that accepts kings salute).....this is just an extract from alaafin of oyo eulogies. At the peak of oyo empire,yoruba glory was at its acme,oyo dominates political leadership of the entire yoruba kingdoms,our unity was like collection of brooms tied together to do the sweeping,the empire created strong defence tactics against the neigbouring enemies and were forced to pay tributes at oyo will in those days.Alaafin of oyo confirmed the appointments of prominent obas such as alake of egbaland,osile oke ona,olowu of owu,onisabe of sabe,alaketu of ketu,owa obokun of ijesha land etc before their independence conquests.Alaafin approved the establishment of other thrones such as awujale of ijebuland,soun of ogbomoso,olubadan of ibadan,timi of ede etc. Oyo dynasty designed prominent military rulers for yoruba such as bashorun and aare ona kakanfo.Alaafin has the final say on disputes between obas and other yoruba kingdoms.oyo conquest expanded yoruba land greatly at the peak of the empire.ile ife was recognise as cradle and sacred place for yoruba.Hence it's duty of oyo to protect ife from attack and no oba was recognized by alaafin but the chief priest called ooni.NOW DO YOU EXPECT ALAAFIN OF OYO TO ACCEPT SUPREMACY FROM OONI OF IFE?As far as I am concerned ALAAFIN IS AN INSTITUTION.Ooni is lucky that this generation is clearly different from the past otherwise alaafin would have dealt with him like kurumi of ijaye who attempted to undermine alaafin atiba succession decision. we were the builder of the empire and we buldozed it due to some so called liberation moves by our forefathers at the expense of our unity.we are now bearing the brunts of the fallen empire which was the second largest in africa after egyptian empire.We could have been a nation of our own at present had some mistakes been avoided because we are the most populous homogenous black race in the world and we have the human and material resources.It' a pity that our present traditional rulers have not learned from the mistakes of our ancestors.YORUBA RONU! 4 Likes |
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theoctopus:we will invade Ondo after mimiko tenure.As you can see,he is in isolation among soutwest governors but Ondo state will join the kith and kin come 2016.As for lagosians,80 percent has pledged loyalty to APC and we will continue to ride on.We will kick the lonely party(LP) from ondo. |
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Those activists are fools for embarassing the executive governor of lagos state.What Is wrong in paying a condolescence visit to omojola family?Is mimiko a saint before calling a governor who has never been prosecuted a thief?If no,why can't they march to alagbaka and rein insults on him too?I'm sure this is labour party setup.They are doomed to fail anyway. |
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Madam please resign!are you not weary of these vitriolic media attacks |
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hercules07:As younger generations,can't we amend our fathers itches? |
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Tony Spike:that's not true.The fall of ilorin to Fulani is as a result of disunity within. |
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hercules07:you see, yoruba generals killing yoruba while ilorin is being ransacked by united fulanis.is that not an act of cowardice SHAME!!!! |
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silent don:aftermath of fulani takeover,why can't you launch retaliatory attacks against them if truly you are not cowards.I learnt that yoruba used firearms,spears and swords for armoury while fulanis used spears and swords alone during the conquest |
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silent don:ilorin people are cowards,they could not defeat the fulanis.Their forefathers folded arm and watched the fulani taking over government.They expected yoruba counterparts to pursue the fulanis which is not possible because Afonja had declared independece against oyo.I challenge you,I might be more knowledgeable of your town history than you. |
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bola4dprec: bola4dprec: bola4dprec:you are the one slumbering because you don't know what is going wrong with various ethnic divisions in this country or pretending in disguise |
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honifome: As yoruba patriots,we must not shy away from our responsibilities.Ilorin must be won back because of the antecedents during imperial oyo empire.The fall of the city to fulani is not as a result of yoruba cowardice but political intrigues in oyo, afonja rebellion and internecine crisis.The name ilorin is yoruba derived,ilu ti won tin LO IRIN(blacksmith city).Oyo arms were manufactured there and horses were supplied for the cavalry due to the tse tse fly free savannah climate.Ilorin is not the only relegated yorubaland viz akoko edos,kogi west likewise sabe and popo in republic of benin,even katunga in present niger state is a yorubaland.As the most civilised black race,we have to return to our belligerent style and win our cause because that is that is the only coherent solution to the mortal blow. bola4dprec: honifome: As yoruba patriots,we must not shy away from our responsibilities.Ilorin must be won back because of the antecedents during imperial oyo empire.The fall of the city to fulani is not as a result of yoruba cowardice but political intrigues in oyo, afonja rebellion and internecine crisis.The name ilorin is yoruba derived,ilu ti won tin LO IRIN(blacksmith city).Oyo arms were manufactured there and horses were supplied for the cavalry due to the tse tse fly free savannah climate.Ilorin is not the only relegated yorubaland others are akoko edos,kogi west likewise sabe and popo in republic of benin,even katunga in present niger state is a yorubaland.As the most civilised black race,we have to return to our belligerent style and win our cause because that is that is the only coherent solution to the mortal blow.it's unfortunate that many among us are ignorant of history |
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As yoruba patriots,we must not shy away from our responsibilities.Ilorin must be won back because of the antecedents during imperial oyo empire.The fall of the city to fulani is not as a result of yoruba cowardice but political intrigues in oyo, afonja rebellion and internecine crisis.The name ilorin is yoruba derived,ilu ti won tin LO IRIN(blacksmith city).Oyo arms were manufactured there and horses were supplied for the cavalry due to the tse tse fly free savannah climate.Ilorin is not the only relegated yorubaland viz akoko edos,kogi west likewise sabe and popo in republic of benin,even katunga in present niger state is a yorubaland.As the most civilised black race,we have to return to our belligerent style and win our cause because that is that is the only coherent solution to the mortal blow. 1 Like |
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My language yoruba is sophisticated enough to be proud of.The literature,grammar,religon and history are well documented.There are many scholars who are being recognised globally.As a true descendant of oduduwa,it's not just about the language but every aspects.OMO ALE NI FOWO OSI JUWE ILE BABA E(it's a bastard that gives wrong direction to his fathers house) 3 Likes |
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Omo eni o le se idi bebere ka tun wa fileke sidi omo elomiran(one can't wear beads for another man daughter hips when he has a daughter with better hips)As for me,yoruba is my language and I will teach my children the way my parents taught me. |
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As a baptist member,christianity discipline is our opium.We cannot tolerate incoherent merger based on the ground of our rigid constitution.If we allow this,reverend Bowen will not be happy in heaven. 1 Like |
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In his dispenstion,his word was law and the country his fortress.The fear of general Matthew Aremu Okikiolaakan Olusegun Obasanji is the beginning of wisdom.He was a prestigious leader of Nigeria nay Africa.Abuja was mecca of all sorts to diplomats.He nipped any uprising against his government in the bud.No rebellion survived his shot because he dealt with them decisively.The odi and zaki biam bombardment showcased his might.Compare these to the ongoing Goodluck Jonathan administration and justify the achievement between the duo.The only opponent who survived his political shot is Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu. |
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Welcome back ASIWAJU BOLA AHMED TINUBU,JAGABAN BORGU,oppressors your BP must be high now but it's better you jump from cater bridge or hug transformer |
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Nairalanders!I just read from sahara reporters online that olusegun agagu,former governor of ondo state is dead |
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Good post!Yoruba was belligerent in the past.In those days,victory is obligatory for any warrior or commit suicide after defeats.Yoruba have never been defeated in warfare.The dahomey defeated oyo during their independence conquest but meet their waterloo from the egba people.The fulani conquered ilorin as a result of afonja rebellion and betrayal but were also overpowered during ibadan/osogbo and fulani war.If the various tribes within the race come together to fight,the country will be in shackles unlike failed biafra. 1 Like |
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Oyo celebrated oranmiyan festival many months ago despite ife disavowal because alaafin did not seek permission from ife which is not necessary since oyo never seek permissions according to history and oranmiyan himself was oyo empire builder.Any move by ife to organise another oranmiyan festival would be a slap to the alaafin institution and this is unacceptable.Also,it would be another sign of supremacy tussle between alaafin of oyo and ooni of ife |
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Where is Alaafin of oyo-iku baba yeye in your pictures |
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Excuse me please!can shea butter cure bumps and keloids? |
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[color=#006600][/color]prouldly yoruba,we are second and enemy to none even among jealous tribes but we could be cunny at times.I love ibos for being industrious but they tends to feel superior by denigrating other tribes.I love hausa/fulanis for their fidelity but they are extremist. |
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Fredopayee don't ignite tribal war in this forum because I would prefer to restrict the discussion to the topic rather than lambasting your percieve igbo tribe too. 1 Like |
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I have been expressing concern about low percentage of yoruba in nigeria military for ages.We were once bellicose during the golden period of oyo empire and crisis within but the reverse is the case now.While we have resorted to be peace loving,should we continue to neglect our military virtues? |
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Has alaafin of oyo and ooni of ife clarify their supremacy tussle?can we speak with one voice from various clans to achieve this? |
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It is my impression that there are many school of thoughts in yoruba history by scholars but yoruba can never accept the falsification of her history however quack historians write up.Oduduwa was the son of lamurudu who was killed in mecca during islamic jihad.He had no choice than to live the city and wondered through egypt,gulf of aden and passed through sudan,chad,northern borno.He reached Bussa in niger and crossed the river niger until he finally get to an unhabited forest where he later called ile-ife (home of dwelling).Many followed him on the way and he had many wives and seven children who later established their own fortresses in various kingdoms such as alake of egba,alaketu of ketu,onisabe of sabe,onipopo of popo,owa obokun of ijesha,oranmiyan of oyo,orogun of ila and olowu of owu.Any other first class oba in yorubaland that is not mentioned was established by the oyo empire.Oranmiyan being the last born left ife and went to benin where he became the first oba but left in annoyance later due to some pronounced differences where he called ile ibinu(land of anger in yoruba).Thereafter,the name benin emerged after various mixing by itsekiris,urhobo and portuguese.He returned to ile-ife but decided leaving sooner to avenge his grandfather killing and revive yoruba ifa religion in mecca but he failed due to unclear ways to the destination and stopped at borgu where he meet some elders and they presented him a calabash and snake.The elders instructed him to hang the snake round his neck and followed the directions the snake points to and wherever it disappeared is the destination to carry out the revenge according to their beliefs.Oranmiyan did not hesitate to follow the instructions due to his focus on revenge mission but unfortunately,the snake disappeared at a place in woodland savannah where their is no evidence of islamic activities and finally gave up on his mission.He named the place oyo and automatically became the first alaafin of oyo,the largest empire in west africa stretching across woodland savannah of northern yorubaland towards dahomey,togo departments and enclaving them to the atlantic coast.Due to old age,he left oyo and went back to ile-ife after installing his first son ajaka as the second alaafin.In ife,the benin elders paid him a visit and pleaded for his return to become their king after the demise of his rival but he declined and told them to install his son owomika(eweka) as their next oba because he remembered he impregnated a benin woman erhimwinde on his way back to ile ife and that is how benin became yoruba ally. |
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