SamuelAnyawu:


We are tired of this consolation quotes Brother.

Our Military should do the right thing please

If you have a brother in the military right now will you send him to Gudzamala? It's about minimizing casualties not that it can't be done.

Am sure we would here good news before this year runs out.

DubaiLandLord:
Without Air, Armour and Artillery support, the USA won't overrun Gudzmala, so far Boko haram is able to secure their supply route. But with Armour and Artillery, it will be in favour of the Americans. But infantry to infantry, the Americans will never overrun Gudzmala.

Overrunning Gudzamala is not the problem of Nigerian Army. The right question is at what cost? Will it worth it? We can always get better systems to minimize the lost on our side.

The US military still haven't defeated the Talibans almost 20 years after. I laughed when some was saying US is not fighting on their home soil. It was a very stupiid statement because the US can move more that 10 times the hardware of most nations to their doorstep without any issue.

A single us aircraft Carrier will carry almost 100 fighter aircraft to any nation in the world and they have 10 of such carriers which translate to ~1000 fighter aircraft can be deployed on aircraft carriers alone. How many countries have that on their home soil? Let's not even talk about other Naval Assets or even the US Marine or the US Airforce. They all have capability of projecting force anywhere on earth with almost 700 bases around the world.

The entire Nigerian Airforce attack aircraft are less than 100 (both good and bad, recent and old). So just just imagine that 1 aircraft carrier can bring aircraft more advanced and even in more numbers than what is available in entire Nigerian Airforce and someone would claim is because the are not on home soil. Very stupiid excuse.

LordFarquaad:
Uniport.

Na wa o

marvin906:




Then they should stick to one or two companies outside for mraps not jumping from one to another

Demand is very high in the field and just 2 companies can't meet up.

Big foot seems to have performed well and really getting huge order.

This thread is dieing o. Irrelevant argument everywhere.

mekussa:
Please oooo !!!
Has the missing alpha jet been found?
Heard the air force rubbished the story that it was found in Bama(or is it Baga?) some days ago.
If indeed it hasn't been found till now, its worrisome

Nope. They have not found it.

JOSCOFELIX:
i have already reveal to some people who dm last week. i dont need to reveal it hear.if you wish to know go and look for it. thanks. i have make my descision not to reveal procurement on this thread.

That is what am saying. Last last rice na rice.

To be sincere I don't need to look for anything. For you to know many others know as well as issues with national assembly regarding procurement.

It not completely new or secret. Getting approval is one thing and getting the funds is another and that is where nothing can be hidden.

cutievik:



Stopppppittt

If you say you no go chop na em b say you get foreign rice be that o.

JOSCOFELIX:
if what i am hearing is true then congratulation for the airforce , army, navy, and nimasa,and police.

You know we are always hungry but you always give us stoney rice to eat.

Drop what you have so we can process it before consuming it.

Last last rice na rice.

edoairways:
LordFarquaad ignore those critics. The most important thing is the fact that your lecturer acknowledge Nairaland in his or her work.

Which is also wrong

LordFarquaad:
Just so you know Nairaland is quite popular and it will be disheartening if the first air observed on visiting this platform is the stench of unrestricted tribalism..

I was simply preparing for my exams this morning and decided to peruse through my lecturer's book and to my greatest amusement towards the "godfatherism" subheading I saw him citing Nairaland.

His citation is not properly done. Just joining everything anyhow.

Please what is the name of your school?

JOSCOFELIX:
i remember mentoning more than one jet. mark my word.just a matter of time

My brother SU57 is build to be even superior to F-35. Forget western propaganda.

Only the F-22 would be superior to SU57 and maybe some secret stealth fighter in US.

JOSCOFELIX:
turkey was among the nation nigeria government point finger to about sponsoring terroism. iran launher and attack on nigeria defence system and web which make nigeria and launch a intelligent unit

Neither Turkey nor Iran can attack Nigeria except we have a neighbor that is ready to accommodate them. Besides, turkey still use F-16 as their main fighter jet and Iran too can't attack Nigeria and sustain it.

A decent fleet of 4th or 4.5 generation multirole fighter jet is more than enough to resist any of those countries.

Just let US be with their F-35 abeg.

The only means of getting to Nigeria from their countries is by sea and alot of things have to be put into consideration. Non of the have An aircraft carrier which even eliminate possible air to air combat.

4th generation fighter jets have capability of carrying anti-ship missiles. Not until we get F-35.

JOSCOFELIX:
nigeria is expose to war from some nation and do not want to be taken onwear

Nations like?

The only countries capable of attacking Nigeria are world powers and very very few countries(maybe 3 more) and F-35 is not enough to save us from them.

Force projection no be joke o.

Xbee007:
Can someone give me one good reason why Nigeria will spend billions of dollars to acquire F-35 or SU57?

Just one good reason.

The only good reason is that we are confused because the money is not just there.

Toju200:
yeah around 2019 ministry of defence was interested in Acquiring The mig for NAF although the type wasn't stated...

And I'm not even imagining NAF buying The F35....

On the issue of subs the navy is considering subs but not Acquiring anytime soon...at all

Subs might come after a frigate but everything is too coded but I think a frigate is already confirmed.

The navy have been talk about subs for over six years now. Am sure something might happen soon.

JOSCOFELIX:
oga you too shut up. This was the main reason i refused to share intel with thread because some mumu individual will always say rubbish. When i said something confirm before rubbishing your self

Please don't blame the guy much for what he wrote. Those aircraft you mentioned sound crazy and a lot of politics involved. Besides it doesn't make sense jumping from 3rd generation fighter jets to 5th generation fighter jet.

Nigerian should be looking around jf-17, J10, mig 35, SU30 and at most Rafael.

Su57 is not yet operational and F-35 is only sold to countries very close to US (politically).

Raaven:


nigerian air force use napalm ? incendiary weapons ? thermobaric bombs ?

seeing their typical position, they were burned alive

Even nemesis2you mentioned thermobaric bombs but I wasn't sure if we have them but since you've mentioned it too then I guess we have something like that.

Raaven:
oldies .. algerian mig 21 fleet . used now days as decoration at the entrance of air bases or rusting under the sun

same with Nigeria. One was used in Abuja airforce base along airport road.

DaddyGoo:



Correction taken my Oga.

But my point still stands.

According to your own numbers, 20% attrition has been due to reckless pilots?

And another 20% due to other factors (birdstrike etc).

20% pilot error in a fleet is ABNORMAL.

Others have them in service agreed, but the Nigerian fleet is tiny mehn.

I'm open to correction on this number but I see that Naija's fleet is the 2nd smallest globally, except for the Namibians with 6 planes.

Na our battle or size mates be that?

Lest we forget, 9 planes means only 3 are available at any time.

3 in the air on tasking, 3 in hangar on maintenance and 3 sitting on tarmac quick alert.

In abnormal times like these I can only cut cap for NAF HQ & NAF Engineering for their ability to generate sufficient sorties to cover up this glaring deficit.

Hmmmmmm, it is well.

My brother, there is nothing you can do about the numbers/size. The only reasonable thing for the air force to do is to get JF-17 or any other mordern multirole fighter jets to complement them.

F-7 are third generation jets and the major reason they were bought in 2006 was because Nigerian Air force was used to mig 21 (2nd generation jet) before they were all grounded. The airforce was completely down to the extent that there were no proper fighter jets to fly. It was just to fill gaps.

DaddyGoo:
Just heard a very negative report on Kiss FM radio that some soldiers of Operation Lafiya Dole are protesting their posting to a certain part of the AOR (actual area unstated).

Reasons for protest are said to be:

Inadequate payment of allowances.

Poor/defective weapons and equipment.

A lack of adequate vehicles ( I suspect they are referring to armor there).

They should join NLC.

Nemesis2you:




Anyways FAE 250 / 500 / 1000 kg bombs can do a lot of area damage

Maybe those were used

FAE - fuel air explosive

I am not sure if we have anything like this?

Nemesis2you:


Thats possible

But all this talk of nuke chai

We stole it from India and threw it from C130

You can see we haven't heard from BOKO HARAM since then.

Nemesis2you:
A nuke was launched

And nobody told me about it

How dare u

Lol

RAAD cruise missile (hopefully).

DaddyGoo:


2005-2008 is when the fleet of 18 (12 F7, 6 FT7) was delivered.

Since then, that fleet has lost more that 30% of its original strength to crashes.

IIRC all, or almost all the trainers are gone as described.

I don't think it can be called new again o!

15 F-7 were bought 12 single seat and 3 dual seat.

We have 9 in Service and atleast 3 were were lost due to recklessness of pilot. Several other countries still have them in service .

Whyem15:
The company Leonardo has confirmed that Nigeria hasn't signed any deal with them but looking with interest to the M-346. Nigeria just went window shopping but at least they understand there is need to replace the Alpha jets and F7-NIs. A deal might be signed soon but not necessarily with Leonardo and the quantity might be frustrating.

Good news then.
For the sake of cost I will prefer the Yak-130 or L-15. The will practically fulfil the same purpose and they are all identical.

M-346 is far more expensive not because it will do something special but because of the cost of labour, tax and other Euro wahala. Same reason Iphone prefers manufacturing their phones in china.

F-7 won't get replaced anytime soon. Besides M346 is good replacement for Alpha jets but doesn't serve the same role as F-7. Besides F-7 are still new in our inventory.

Stargate254:
Remember that story from the same magazine that said Kenya would be getting 100 APCs of a certain type from a certain company from Turkey for $110m to which the company came out and denied having made the deal. It later turn out that it was another Turkish company doing the deal for $73m for 118 Hizir APCs.
So the news was actually credible, africaintelligence magazine just got the details all wrong but the basic truth was somewhere in there i.e. they hadn't just made the whole thing up from nowhere. So I would say being a company that mostly posts exclusive stories that no other media outlet has by the time they are publishing which is no easy task. You have to give them the benefit of doubt and wait and see if there was some truth to the story or not.

Thanks jare. Everything is adding up bit by bit. JF-17 thunder were more expensive because it uses a lot of western tech instead of cheaper ones from chinese. The CJ4 citation ordered might have something to do with everything. M346- tucano- jf-17- CJ4 citation.

Lurker4Long:
The idiotic nonsense on here.

1) F7 is an upgraded Mig-21, which can carry 250kg-500kg dumb bombs.
2) RAAD 1 is the Pakistani designation for the DENEL MUPSOW, currently qualified for the Mirage and JF17.
3) RAAD 2 is the extended range version, recently integrated on the Mirage and JF17, a single test firing, and not yet in production.

But what use are facts when chest-puffing means bending reality to whatever fantasies I wake up with?

1) is the F7 same as Mig21? Are they from the same country of origin? Can F7 carry missiles? Or you think it's just to carry dumb bombs?

Why not call the L-15, YAK-130 or M345?

2) RAAD 1 Is not same as your south african mupsow that is still in development. Till date it's still not in service with SAAF. How will pakistan copy something that never really exist? Every south african missile parts are bought and assembled. Nothing stops other countries from buying same parts for their own projects. Sudan also produce a lot of missiles. RAAD 1 have more than double the range of muspow. Stop all this self praise. Everything good and worth celebrating was copied from South Africa.

3) why is RAAD II not from South Africa?

Rubbish

JOSCOFELIX:
mumu basted who can a boast of knowledge in narialand but in really life na full olodo he be. let me tell you, you are a full madman. if my intel on this thread is paining you them go and hug a transformer or committed suicide

baba this one too much o. Please calm down.

tutudesz:

Are you saying they can't assemble the wings in less than 24 hours Or must there be an official hand over before been used for a military operations
Because I see no reason for this argument, if you can't answer this question

I just tire. As if we need to reassemble the whole jet again.

Joscofelix is really trying when it come to update even though he has little background knowledge of military equipment. His info are legit and his contribution will always be welcomed.

SuperSixSeven:


You seem to be more concerned about Investigative reporting than our failed procurement strategy, poor battlefield tactics and constant lies from the DHQ to the public. This are the real problems we are facing.

With people like you we are never going to win this war.

I only responded to the sahara reporters story and I don't see any need commenting on what almost everyone have talked about. Am sure we all have great expectations.

It's difficult for me to say anything about battle field tactics on my bed in Abuja. Military will never give you details of that as the only thing they owe you is result. The COAS just spent about a month or even less and Air force also expecting some toys to play with. That says alot about what to expect soon and for sure I like them taking the fight to ISWAP territory. It's the only way for the war to end sooner than expected.

lastly, why should I bother about lies from DHQ if am not bothered about lies from ISWAP/BOKO HARAM? it's part of the war but unfortunately for the military they don't have control over the media houses like many advance countries. Even US government dey lie not to talk of Nigerian Army/DHQ.

JOSCOFELIX:
good evening forum. i have not being able to come online because i was looking for information about the military procurement. and i will said saharanews are big liar. in 2018 Nigeria government took more than 1 trillion USD from the eca, from 564- 600 million usd where use for the procurement of jet, spare part including 2 two extra engine on each jet , building of hanger are many other thing , the Nigeria army collect the sum of 360 million usd. under my investigation i heard Nigeria receives 5 delivery in April, June, September, November and December. under that my investigation nigeria army received 15mbt in the first and second delivery 18 sfti tank, koera armored vehicles, land mine defector vehicles, construction 38 ezgum mrap from dicon, over 58 phantom vehicles were ordered from saudi arab which 32 where delivered, air defense system, the 58 and above bigfrog mrap, close 30 or more south africa mrap, but transfer to the niger airfoce, patrol boat for the nigeria army 82 division airborne and amphibious, and many secret procurement. from my investigation i learnt the nigeria military have agree that the vt 4 tank should be the standardize tank for the army, we are expecting 28 vt4 tank fro china under the ECA from 2018 -2020, .and the rest money were spend on the navy immigration and police. please this my investigation 95 out of 100 are credible

The correct amount is $1 billion not $1 trillion.

Sahara reporters and premium times are anti Government. They do this even if facts are on ground they capitalize on the fact that nigerians are lazy about finding out the truth.

It's unfortunate we have to live with this evil men.