plappville:

Quran 55:33 humans wont go into space without gods consent. Big false statement. Dozens of non-theists went into space without leave or permission from god.

Quran is filled with lies...

lies
Surah Al-Rahman, Verse 33:
يَا مَعْشَرَ الْجِنِّ وَالْإِنسِ إِنِ اسْتَطَعْتُمْ أَن تَنفُذُوا مِنْ أَقْطَارِ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ فَانفُذُوا لَا تَنفُذُونَ إِلَّا بِسُلْطَانٍ

O assembly of jinns and men! If you have power to pass beyond the zones of the heavens and the earth, then pass (them)! But you will never be able to pass them, except with authority (from Allah)!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

its not talking about space. do you know scientist who goes to space are suspended I.e not able to pass the boundary.
non of does going to space has ever reach the first heaven talk less of passing it.

plappville:


You cant hid from from it. The Satanic verse is part of the coran even if it has been deleted. Many people are not aware the coran used to contain a satanic verse. They deleted it as if other verses are godly. The coran itself is satanic till date.

The Surah 53 was given to Muhammad by Satan. Also vss. 19, 20. These two verses read:

Have ye thought upon al-Lat and al-Uzza
And Manat, the third, the other? (53:19,20)

Then, originally, the verses (known today as the satanic verses) followed:
These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries)
Whose intercession is to be hoped for.

Pls you can't use lies the prrof or self why can't you be sincere for ones and open ur heart to the truth
Stop lieing to receive people.

Surah An-Najm, Verse 18:
لَقَدْ رَأَىٰ مِنْ آيَاتِ رَبِّهِ الْكُبْرَىٰ

Indeed he (Muhammad SAW) did see, of the Greatest Signs, of his Lord (Allah).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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Surah An-Najm, Verse 19:
أَفَرَأَيْتُمُ اللَّاتَ وَالْعُزَّىٰ

Have you then considered Al-Lat, and Al-'Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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Surah An-Najm, Verse 20:
وَمَنَاةَ الثَّالِثَةَ الْأُخْرَىٰ

And Manat (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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Surah An-Najm, Verse 21:
أَلَكُمُ الذَّكَرُ وَلَهُ الْأُنثَىٰ

Is it for you the males and for Him the females?
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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Surah An-Najm, Verse 22:
تِلْكَ إِذًا قِسْمَةٌ ضِيزَىٰ

That indeed is a division most unfair!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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Surah An-Najm, Verse 23:
إِنْ هِيَ إِلَّا أَسْمَاءٌ سَمَّيْتُمُوهَا أَنتُمْ وَآبَاؤُكُم مَّا أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ بِهَا مِن سُلْطَانٍ إِن يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ وَمَا تَهْوَى الْأَنفُسُ وَلَقَدْ جَاءَهُم مِّن رَّبِّهِمُ الْهُدَىٰ

They are but names which you have named, you and your fathers, for which Allah has sent down no authority. They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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Surah An-Najm, Verse 24:
أَمْ لِلْإِنسَانِ مَا تَمَنَّىٰ

Or shall man have what he wishes?
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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Surah An-Najm, Verse 25:
فَلِلَّهِ الْآخِرَةُ وَالْأُولَىٰ

But to Allah belongs the last (Hereafter) and the first (the world).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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[quote author=eshbeewanna post=33389835][/quote]
May Allah increase u in knowledge of Islam
Most times I keep quite because of the fact that if u keep on explaining to them, ey will still keep deaf ears, but my fear if for innocent Muslim who failed to learn about their religion and learn religion on net (nairaland ) will think these people are rights and got confuse abuot their lies.
pls always put this in mind while replying them
Surah Al-Kahf, Verse 56:
وَمَا نُرْسِلُ الْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّا مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ وَيُجَادِلُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِالْبَاطِلِ لِيُدْحِضُوا بِهِ الْحَقَّ وَاتَّخَذُوا آيَاتِي وَمَا أُنذِرُوا هُزُوًا

And We send not the Messengers except as giver of glad tidings and warners. But those who disbelieve, dispute with false argument, in order to refute the truth thereby. And they treat My Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), and that with which they are warned, as jest and mockery!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Oh my musk brothers leave the non musims alone, no matter how you try to convince them, they will still make mockery of Islam as Alan said in the quran.



Surah Al-Kahf, Verse 56:
وَمَا نُرْسِلُ الْمُرْسَلِينَ إِلَّا مُبَشِّرِينَ وَمُنذِرِينَ وَيُجَادِلُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا بِالْبَاطِلِ لِيُدْحِضُوا بِهِ الْحَقَّ وَاتَّخَذُوا آيَاتِي وَمَا أُنذِرُوا هُزُوًا

And We send not the Messengers except as giver of glad tidings and warners. But those who disbelieve, dispute with false argument, in order to refute the truth thereby. And they treat My Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.), and that with which they are warned, as jest and mockery!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

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47516 : The Gospels that are extant nowadays were written after the time of ‘Eesa (peace be upon him) and have been tampered with a great deal qstn It is well known among us Muslims that Allaah revealed the Gospel (Injeel) to ‘Eesa (peace be upon him), but when I studied some things about Christianity, they told me that the Gospel was not brought by the Messiah, rather it was written by the disciples of the Messiah after the crucifixion (or after Allaah raised him up to Him, as it says in the Qur’aan). How can we reconcile between the two views?. Praise be to Allaah. There is no contradiction between the two views such that we would need to ask how they can be reconciled. Rather the reason why the questioner is confused is that he is mixing up two things that we must believe in and that are both true, praise be to Allaah. The first issue is the Gospel that was revealed from the Lord of the Worlds to the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him). Belief that Allaah revealed a Book to His Prophet ‘Eesa and that the name of this book was the Gospel (Injeel), are basic principles of faith that we must believe in. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. (They say,) ‘We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers’ — and they say, ‘We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)’” [al-Baqarah 2:285] The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to Jibreel, when he asked him about faith, as mentioned in the well- known hadeeth: “Faith means to believe in Allaah, His angels, His books, His messengers, the Last Day, and to believe in His divine will and decree, both good and bad.” (Agreed upon). Disbelieving in that or doubting it is misguidance and kufr or disbelief in Allaah. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “O you who believe! Believe in Allaah, and His Messenger (Muhammad), and the Book (the Qur’aan) which He has sent down to His Messenger, and the Scripture which He sent down to those before (him); and whosoever disbelieves in Allaah, His Angels, His Books, His Messengers, and the Last Day, then indeed he has strayed far away. 137. Verily, those who believe, then disbelieve, then believe (again), and (again) disbelieve, and go on increasing in disbelief; Allaah will not forgive them, nor guide them on the (right) way” [al-Nisa’ 4:136-137] “Verily, those who disbelieve in Allaah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allaah and His Messengers (by believing in Allaah and disbelieving in His Messengers) saying, “We believe in some but reject others,” and wish to adopt a way in between. 151. They are in truth disbelievers. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment” [al-Nisa’ 4:150-151] The second issue is the Gospel or, more precisely, the Gospels that the Christians have today. Although one of the basic principles of our faith is to believe in the Gospel that was revealed to ‘Eesa, we also believe that there is no longer any book that remained as it was revealed by Allaah, neither the Gospel nor anything else, apart from the Qur’aan. Even the Christians themselves do not believe that the books that they have before them were revealed in that form from God, nor do they claim that the Messiah wrote the Gospel or at least that it was written during his lifetime. Imam Ibn Hazm (may Allaah have mercy on him) says in al-Fasl fi’l-Milal (2/2): We do not need to try hard to prove that the Gospels and all the books of the Christians did not come from God or from the Messiah (peace be upon him), as we needed to do with regard to the Torah and the books attributed to the Prophets that the Jews have, because the Jews claim that the Torah that they have was revealed from God to Moosa, so we needed to establish proof that this claim of theirs is false. With regard to the Christians, they have taken care of the issue themselves, because they do not believe that the Gospels were revealed from God to the Messiah, or that the Messiah brought them, rather all of them from first to last, peasants and kings, Nestorians, Jacobites, Maronites and Orthodox are all agreed that there are four historical accounts written by four known men at different times. The first of them is the account written by Matthew the Levite who was a disciple of the Messiah, nine years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Hebrew in Judaea in Palestine, and it filled approximately twenty-eight pages in a medium-sized script. The next account was written by Mark, a disciple of Simon ben Yuna, who was called Peter, twenty-two years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Greek in Antioch in the land of the Byzantines. They say that the Simon mentioned is the one who wrote it, then he erased his name from the beginning of it and attributed it to his disciple Mark. It filled twenty-four pages written in a medium- sized script. This Simon was a disciple of the Messiah. The third account written was that of Luke, a physician of Antioch who was also a disciple of Simon Peter. He wrote it in Greek after Mark had written his account, and is similar in length to the Gospel of Matthew. The fourth account was written by John the son of Zebedee, another disciple of the Messiah, sixty-odd years after the Messiah has been taken up into heaven. He wrote it in Greek, and it filled twenty-four pages in a medium-sized script. End quote. Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said in al- Jawaab al-Saheeh (3:21): With regard to the Gospels that the Christians have, there are four Gospels, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. They are agreed that Luke and Mark did not see the Messiah, rather he was seen by Matthew and John. These four accounts which they call the Gospel, and they call each one of them a Gospel, were written by these men after the Messiah had been taken up into heaven. They did not say that they are the word of God or that the Messiah conveyed them from God, rather they narrated some of the words of the Messiah and some of his deeds and miracles. End quote. Moreover, these books which were written after the time of the Messiah did not remain in their original form. The original versions were lost long ago. Ibn Hazm said: With regard to the Christians, there is no dispute among them or anyone else that only one hundred and twenty men believed in the Messiah during his lifetime… and all of those who believed in him concealed themselves and were afraid during his lifetime and afterwards; they called people to his religion in secret and none of them disclosed himself or practised his religion openly, because any of them who was caught was executed. They continued in this manner, not showing themselves at all, and they had no place where they were safe for three hundred years after the Messiah was taken up into heaven. During this time, the Gospel that had been revealed from Allaah disappeared, apart from a few verses which Allaah preserved as proof against them and as a rebuke to them, as we have mentioned. Then when the Emperor Constantine became a Christian, then the Christians prevailed and started to practise their religion openly and assemble in safety. If a religion is like this, with its followers practicing it in secret and living in constant fear of the sword, it is impossible for things to be transmitted soundly via a continuous chain of narrators and its followers cannot protect it or prevent it from being distorted. End quote. Al-Fasl , 2/4-5. In addition to this huge disruption in the chain of transmission of their books, which lasted for two centuries, these books did not remain in the languages in which they were originally written, rather they were translated, more than once, by people whose level of knowledge and honesty is unknown. The contradictions in these books and their shortcomings are among the strongest evidence that they have been distorted and that they are not the Gospel (Injeel) that Allaah revealed to His slave and Messenger ‘Eesa (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah indeed spoke the truth when He said (interpretation of the meaning): “Had it been from other than Allaah, they would surely, have found therein many a contradiction” [al-Nisa’ 4:82] .

Q3: Why did the GOD of Islam allow for the "original" Bible to get corrupted or lost? A3: Before I answer this question from the Islamic perspective, we must first know that the Bible itself admits that it is a corrupted Book from the introduction above. Please visit Just who were the real authors of the Bible? and History of man's tampering with the Old Testament. Let us see what Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said regarding the validity and the reliability of the Bible: Narrated AbuNamlah al-Ansari: "When he was sitting with the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and a Jew was also with him, a funeral passed by him. He (the Jew) asked (Him): Muhammad, does this funeral speak? The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Allah has more knowledge. The Jew said: It speaks. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Whatever the people of the Book [Jews and Christians] tell you, do not verify them, nor falsify them, but say: We believe in Allah and His Apostle. If it is false, do not confirm it, and if it is right, do not falsify it. (Translation of Sunan Abu- Dawud, Knowledge (Kitab Al-Ilm), Book 25, Number 3637) " The following two Sayings of our beloved Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him were sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him: Narrated Ubaidullah: "Ibn 'Abbas said, 'Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Quran) which has been revealed to Allah's Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 461) " Narrated Abu Huraira: "The people of the Book used to read the Torah in Hebrew and then explain it in Arabic to the Muslims. Allah's Apostle said (to the Muslims). 'Do not believe the people of the Book, nor disbelieve them, but say, 'We believe in Allah and whatever is revealed to us, and whatever is revealed to you.' ' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 460) " As we clearly see in the above Sayings of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him, the source that the Jews and Christians use (i.e. the Bible or any other religious source such as their Popes', Rabbis or other religious people's verdicts) must be ignored because it is not reliable. As we've seen in the above introduction, the man-made scribes (laws) had corrupted the Bible and turned it "into a lie" (Jeremiah 8:. According to Islam, Allah Almighty (GOD Almighty) in the Bible promised those who try to tamper His Words in the Bible to face hell fire, because He knew that it was going to happen. He gave the people of the book (Jews and Christians) a chance/ test and they simply blew it!. Today, there is no one Bible!. The number of Books/Gospels in the Roman Catholics Bible for instance is different from the King James Version Bible, which is different in the number of Books/Gospels from the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible, which is different in the number of Books/Gospels from the Mormon's Bible, etc... Look at Noble Verse 5:13 from the Noble Quran: "But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them (Jews and Christians) and made their hearts hard; they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of ; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others)." Israel, when it lost Allah Almighty's grace, began to sin against truth and religion in three ways: (1) they began to misuse Scripture itself, by either taking words out of their right meaning, or applying them to things for which they were never meant; (2) in doing so, they conveniently forgot a part of the Message and purpose of Allah; and (3) they invented new deceits to support the old ones. Let us look at Noble Verse 5:41 "O Apostle! let not those grieve thee, who race each other into unbelief: (whether it be) among those who say "We believe" with their lips but whose hearts have no faith; or it be among the Jews,- men who will listen to any lie,- will listen even to others who have never so much as come to thee. They change the words from their (right) times and places: they say, 'If ye are given this, take it, but if not, beware!' If any one's trial is intended by God, thou hast no authority in the least for him against God. For such - it is not God's will to purify their hearts. For them there is disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a heavy punishment." Please visit History of man's corruption in the Bible for more details. Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran on the other hand, did promise that He will personally guard the Noble Quran from corruption. He never promised hell fire to anyone who tries to tamper His words in the Noble Quran. He will guard it Himself; "We (Allah) have, without a doubt, sent down the Message (The Quran); and We (Allah) will assuredly Guard it [from corruption]. (The Noble Quran, 15:9) ." Today we have only one Arabic Noble Quran.

98280 : Wisdom Behind Distortion of the Gospel Why did Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, allow the Gospel to be distorted when He was able to preserve it? What are the teachings that the Muslims followed before the coming of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)? Praise be to Allah. Firstly: Allah delegated the preservation of the Torah and Gospel to their scholars and monks, based on the evidence of the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “Verily, We did send down the Tawrat, therein was guidance and light, by which the prophets, who submitted themselves to Allah’s Will, judged for the Jews. And the rabbis and the priests [too judged for the Jews by the Tawrat after those prophets], for to them was entrusted the protection of Allah’s Book, and they were witnesses thereto.” [5:44]. Allah did not guarantee to preserve them as He guaranteed to preserve the Quran. There are a number of reasons for this: 1. Allah wanted the Quran to remain the eternal Book and the law that would abide until the Day of Resurrection. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)) the Book (this Quran) in truth, confirming the Scripture that came before it and Muhaymin (trustworthy in highness and a witness) over it (old Scriptures).” [5:48]. There was no need for the previous Books to be preserved, especially since the time of the Quran was close to the time of the Gospel, and there were only six hundred years between them. 2. That it was to be a test for those who had been given the Book – would they play their role in preserving the Scripture? Would they believe in what it said? Would they follow the Messenger, the Unlettered Prophet, whom they found mentioned in the Torah and Gospel? Or would they persist in their stubbornness and distort, conceal and falsify? 3. This was also a test for all the followers of Christianity until the Day of Resurrection. They can see that the Book in which they believe is not free of distortions, doubts and loss, and they can see that the Book of the Final Messenger Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) has been preserved and transmitted by so many from so many that no one can doubt its authenticity, so that calls them to believe in the clear Book, the Noble Quran. Secondly: During the Jahiliyyah (days of ignorance), before the coming of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), the people were polytheists (mushrikeen) and idol- worshippers. Most of them had no real religion or decent laws, except a few who followed the way of the Messiah (peace be upon him), such as Waraqah ibn Nawfal, and a few Haneefs who followed the religion of Ibrahim (peace be upon him). These few people shunned shirk, idols, alcohol and immorality, and prostrated to Allah alone, the Lord of the Worlds, such as Zayd ibn ‘Amr ibn Nufayl, of whom it is narrated in a saheeh (authentic) report in al-Bukhari that he said: “I will not eat of that which you slaughter on your stone altars, and I will not eat anything but that over which the name of Allah has been mentioned.” And he also used to say: “O Quraysh, by Allah, there is no one among you who is following the religion of Ibrahim (peace be upon him) except me.” He used to try to stop people burying their daughters alive, and he would say to a man who wanted to kill his daughter: Do not kill her; I will sponsor her. And he would take her and when she grew up he would say to her father: If you wish, I will give her to you, and if you wish, I will sponsor her. [al-Bukhaari]. And Allah knows best.

onetrack:


Who created your god? Did he create himself?

Thanks, may Allaah guide you, if you understand the fact that your creation and the creation of everything in the heavens and the earth must be by someone. It cant be by nothing and you didn't create uourself nor all this things. Then it must be by someone a SUPERNATURAL BEING WHO IS THE GOD ALLAH
THE WHO CREATED ALL THINGS BUT NOT CREATED

HE SAYS

surah iklas
Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,
Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."


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Chapter (24) sūrat l-nūr (The Light)
Sahih International : Allah has created
every [living] creature from water. And of
them are those that move on their bellies,
and of them are those that walk on two
legs, and of them are those that walk on
four. Allah creates what He wills. Indeed,
Allah is over all things competent.

"Allah created
all things, and
he is the agent,
upon which, all
things depend."
— [ Al-Qur'an
39:62]


Praise be to Allaah.
This question which the non Muslims have
asked you is inherently false and self-
contradictory. If we were to say – for the
sake of argument – that someone created
Allaah, then they would ask you, Who
created the creator of the Creator? Then,
who created the creator of the creator of the
creator?! And so on, ad infinitum. This is
irrational and impossible.
All of creation goes back to the Creator Who
created all things. No one created Him; He
created everything other than Himself. This
is what makes sense and is logical. This
Creator is Allaah, may He be glorified and
exalted.

David0:
The God I serve is not allah. How come Jesus performed such miracles but Mohammed never did, but dey r both prophets according to ur Quran.
Jesus is the son of God.
He's d only way, truth n life.
If u wanna make heaven, then stop whatever ur doing n follow Him.

Every prophet of God brought miracles . they only performed this miracle when their people denied them and ask them to bring evidence that they are from Allaah.
As Muslim, we know and believes in many miracles of Jesus not known to you Christians. Do you know that when Jesus was in cradle he spoke to defend his mother? and that he made bird living bird from clay?

We believe that Allaah supported him with
miracles that proved he was speaking the
truth.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“(Remember) when Allaah will say (on the
Day of Resurrection). ‘O ‘Eesa (Jesus), son
of Maryam (Mary)! Remember My Favour to
you and to your mother when I supported
you with Rooh‑ul‑Qudus [Jibreel (Gabriel)] so
that you spoke to the people in the cradle
and in maturity; and when I taught you
writing, Al‑Hikmah (the power of
understanding), the Tawraat (Torah) and the
Injeel (Gospel); and when you made out of
the clay, a figure like that of a bird, by My
Permission, and you breathed into it, and it
became a bird by My Permission, and you
healed those born blind, and the lepers by
My Permission, and when you brought forth
the dead by My Permission; and when I
restrained the Children of Israel from you
(when they resolved to kill you) as you came
unto them with clear proofs, and the
disbelievers among them said: This is
nothing but evident magic’”

So Jesus performed miracles as also the prophets before him. miracle is not something new in matters with the prophet.

Muhammad also cane with his when his people denied him.
I will only inform of some of it and I will implore you to make mor finding.


just go to Wikipedia and see yourself. even historian record his miracles .. splitting of the moon.etc

And the greatest of all the miracles is Quran.
None of the miracles of all other prophet still present till date. But the miracle of the QUR'AN ( word s of God) STILL PRESENT TILL THE END TIME.


TRY READING IT WITH A SINCERE HEARTH THEN YOU WILL THE MIRACLE OF YOUR LORD SPEAKING TO YOU

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

No. He was not a Muslim. He worshipped in the sanctuary and preached there too using Jewish scrolls. Jewish historian Josephus showed in his works about the life and times of Christ and showed he was a Jew all along. 'Christian' is a word that was coined by non Christians to refer to christ's followers and Islam came about 600 years after the death of Christ

Thank you, may Allaah guide you. The main misconception is that All this prophet came with the same thing they were neither call Jews during the time of moses nor were they called Christians during the time of jesus . it was after them that people start calling them names. if this people were neither called Christians born Jew , then the question should be what then were they then preaching.

They call to worship of God only (ISLAM)
“But the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘O
Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord
and your Lord.’ Verily, whosoever sets up
partners (in worship) with Allaah, then
Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and
the Fire will be his abode. And for the
Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)
there are no helpers”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]

All the messengers from Noah to Muhammad all are calling to the WORSHIP OF ONLY ONE GOD.

THERE US NO DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM BUT THEIR METHODS IS WHAT DIFFERS
as Jesus also says " he will tell the father to send another comforter that will talk about him and guide you to all truth.

We believe that ‘Eesa (peace be upon him)
was one of the slaves of Allaah, and one of
His noble Messengers. Allaah sent him to the
Children of Israel to call them to believe in
Allaah alone and worship Him alone.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]

It was after this people that people start changing their messages.

onetrack:


And If I don't criticise Islam then I get accused of attacking only Christians. I can't win either way. However I affirm that I am atheist, and you can look through my posts for proof. Jesus was not a prophet nor the son of god. Period.

AN ATHEIST? PLS MY BROTHER I HAVE A SINCERE ADVICE FOR YOU

THINK UPON THE FOLLOWING VERSES

Surah At-tur, Verse 35:36: 43
أَمْ خُلِقُوا مِنْ غَيْرِ شَيْءٍ أَمْ هُمُ الْخَالِقُونَ

Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators?

Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay,
they have no firm belief.

Or have they a god other than Allah. Exalted is
Allah far above the things they associate with Him!

Medicis:
When will Muslims realise that their gnostic eesa is not THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.

why trying to play ignorance here
Issa is not an Arabic name, some people call him esus , Yoruba people call him Jesu while to the English its called Jesus. all still referring to the same individual.

leave religious book, read historical books. the story is still the Same. Whether the name is different is not the point but the MESSAGE IS THE CONCERN.

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

Well I feel Jesus was a Jew (by religion) and not a Christian or muslim.

He was neither a Jews or christian he was MUSLIM.( someone who worshipped God alone )

He came to preach the oneness of God

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]
“But the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘O
Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord
and your Lord.’ Verily, whosoever sets up
partners (in worship) with Allaah, then
Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and
the Fire will be his abode. And for the
Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)
there are no helpers”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]


He neither was a CHRISTIAN NOR JEW

onetrack:


Which would seem to validate the Christians' claim that Jesus had a 'heavenly father', and not a biological one.

NO
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before
Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created
him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ —
and he was”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]

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5~~ We believe that he will disavow himself on the Day of Resurrection of the claims that he was a god. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And (remember) when Allaah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): 'O ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allaah?’ He will say: ‘Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner‑self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly, You, only You, are the All‑Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen). Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allaah) did command me to say: Worship Allaah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them; and You are a Witness to all things’” [al-Maa'idah 5:116-117] “ ‘Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allaah) did command me to say: Worship Allaah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them; and You are a Witness to all things’” [al-Maa'idah 5:116-117] This is what the Muslims believe about the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him). Al-Bukhaari (3435) and Muslim (28) narrated from ‘Ubaadah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever bears witness that there is no god but Allaah alone, with no partner or associate, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger, and that ‘Eesa is His slave and Messenger, a word which Allaah bestowed upon Maryam and a spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is real, and Hell is real, Allaah will admit him through whichever of the eight gates of Paradise he wishes.”
PLS THINK OH MANKIND We ask Allaah to make us steadfast in faith and to cause us to die as believers. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad.

onetrack:
I'm an atheist so I don't really have anything to prove, but, according to the Quran itself, God sent the angel Gabriel (Djibril) to blow into Mary's vagina in order to get her pregnant with Jesus. So my question is this: who is the biological father of Jesus if even the Quran admits that he has no earthly father?

I personally think this was something Muhammad created in order to get Christians to accept him as a prophet, but without admitting that Jesus was the son of God.

Jesus doesn't have a father. It some people who said Joseph was his earthly father. IT IS A MIRACLE FROM GOD TO SHOW TO MANKIND THAT THIS MAN IS FROM GOD.
We believe that ‘Eesa was born from the
Virgin Maryam with no father, and that is not
impossible for Allaah Who, when He wills a
thing, says “Be!” and it is.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before
Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created
him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ —
and he was”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]
“(Remember) when the angels said: ‘O
Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allaah gives you the
glad tidings of a Word [‘Be!’ — and he was!
i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)]
from Him, his name will be the Messiah
‘Eesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary),
held in honour in this world and in the
Hereafter, and will be one of those who are
near to Allaah.”
He will speak to the people, in the cradle
and in manhood, and he will be one of the
righteous.’
She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son
when no man has touched me.’ He said: ‘So
(it will be) for Allaah creates what He wills.
When He has decreed something, He says to
it only: “Be!” and it is’”

ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Is there any credible historical document other than the holy Quran which talked about the relationship between Jesus and Islam especially written by a neutral (non Muslim or Christian) author?

The post actually is to clarify the misconceptions many people have that " Jesus came with a religion and Muhammad came with a different one"
its to tell people the relationship and status of Jesus to we Muslims.
But to ur question No history will denied the fact that Jesus lived during his time and also muhammad, and this two men were delivering some messages during their own time ( I.e A call to worship ONE GOD) that causes controversies among people of their time.
So if history get the fact both Jesus and Muhammad lived and both came with a MESSAGE. Then you are to make finding on what really there message was. And why Islam believes in both and some religion are making differences.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
4: We believe that he will come back down at
the end of time, and will disprove the claim
of his enemies the Jews that they killed him,
and will disprove the claim of the Christians
that he is God or the son of God, and he will
not accept anything from them but Islam. [/color]

Al-Bukhaari (2222) and Muslim (155)
narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be
pleased with him) said:
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“By the One in Whose hand
is my soul, soon the son of Maryam will
descend among you [according to another
report: the Hour will not begin until the son
of Maryam descends among you] as a just
judge. He will break the cross, kill the pigs
and abolish the jizyah, and money will
become abundant until no one will accept
it.”

“Soon” means it will inevitably happen
quickly.
“will descend among you” means among this
ummah.
“A just judge” means that he will come down
and rule according to this sharee’ah (divine
law), and that this sharee’ah will remain and
not be abrogated, rather ‘Eesa will be one of
the rulers of this ummah.
“He will break the cross and kill the pigs”
means he will declare as false the religion of
the Christians by breaking the cross in a real
sense and proving false the Christians’
claims and veneration of the cross.
“and he will abolish the jizyah”:
al-Nawawi said:

The correct view concerning this is that he
will not accept it, and he will not accept
anything from the kaafirs disbelievers but
Islam. If any of them offer the jizyah that will
not make him stop fighting them. Rather he
will not accept anything but Islam or death.
This is the view of Imam Abu Sulaymaan al-
Khattaabi and other scholars (may Allaah
have mercy on them).
End quote.

“Money will become abundant” – the reason
for this abundance will be the descent of
blessings and the spread of goodness
because of justice and the absence of
oppression or wrongdoing. At that time the
earth will bring forth its treasures, and
desire to keep money will decrease because
they will know that that Hour is at hand.
Then he will die and the Muslims will offer
the funeral prayer for him and bury him.
Ahmad (9349) narrated from Abu Hurayrah
that the Prophet (peace and blessings of
Allaah be upon him) said: “I am the closest
of people to ‘Eesa ibn Maryam because there
was no Prophet between him and me…” Then
he mentioned his descent at the end of time.
Then he said: “And he will remain for as long
as Allaah wills he should remain, then he will
die and the Muslims will offer the funeral
prayer for him and bury him.” Classed as
saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-
Saheehah (2182).

Ahmad (9349) narrated from Abu Hurayrah
that the Prophet (peace and blessings of
Allaah be upon him) said: “I am the closest
of people to ‘Eesa ibn Maryam because there
was no Prophet between him and me…” Then
he mentioned his descent at the end of time.
Then he said: “And he will remain for as long
as Allaah wills he should remain, then he will
die and the Muslims will offer the funeral
prayer for him and bury him.” Classed as
saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-
Saheehah (2182).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We believe that he did not die and his
enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather
Allaah saved him from them and raised him
up to heaven alive.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And because of their (Jews) disbelief and
uttering against Maryam (Mary) a grave false
charge (that she has committed illegal sexual
intercourse);
And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We
killed Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam
(Mary), the Messenger of Allaah,’ — but they
killed him not, nor crucified him, but it
appeared so to them the resemblance of
‘Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man
(and they killed that man)], and those who
differ therein are full of doubts. They have
no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing
but conjecture. For surely; they killed him
not [i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam
(Mary)]:
But Allaah raised him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] up
(with his body and soul) unto Himself (and
he is in the heavens). And Allaah is Ever
All‑Powerful, All‑Wise”
[al-Nisa’ 4:156-158]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We believe that he told his followers of the
coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace
and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]

This is for any one who is sincere , who really want the guidance from God.
NOTE: IT DOESNT CALL FOR ARGUMENT

Praise be to Allaah.

Our beliefs concerning the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn
Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be
upon him) are those indicated by the Book of
Allaah and the Sunnah of our Messenger
Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah
be upon him).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We believe that ‘Eesa (peace be upon him)
was one of the slaves of Allaah, and one of
His noble Messengers. Allaah sent him to the
Children of Israel to call them to believe in
Allaah alone and worship Him alone.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]

“But the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘O
Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord
and your Lord.’ Verily, whosoever sets up
partners (in worship) with Allaah, then
Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and
the Fire will be his abode. And for the
Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)
there are no helpers”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]

~~~~~~ ~ ~~~~~
‘Eesa was not a god or the son of God as
the Christians claim.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Surely, they have disbelieved who say:
‘Allaah is the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)], son of
Maryam (Mary).’”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]
“And the Jews say: ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the son
of Allaah, and the Christians say: Messiah is
the son of Allaah. That is their saying with
their mouths, resembling the saying of those
who disbelieved aforetime. Allaah’s Curse be
on them, how they are deluded away from
the truth!”
[al-Tawbah 9:30]

The first words that ‘Eesa spoke when Allaah
caused him to speak when he was in the
cradle were (interpretation of the meaning):
“He [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘Verily, I am a slave
of Allaah, He has given me the Scripture and
made me a Prophet’”
[Maryam 19:30]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We believe that Allaah supported him with
miracles that proved he was speaking the
truth.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(Remember) when Allaah will say (on the
Day of Resurrection). ‘O ‘Eesa (Jesus), son
of Maryam (Mary)! Remember My Favour to
you and to your mother when I supported
you with Rooh‑ul‑Qudus [Jibreel (Gabriel)] so
that you spoke to the people in the cradle
and in maturity; and when I taught you
writing, Al‑Hikmah (the power of
understanding), the Tawraat (Torah) and the
Injeel (Gospel); and when you made out of
the clay, a figure like that of a bird, by My
Permission, and you breathed into it, and it
became a bird by My Permission, and you
healed those born blind, and the lepers by
My Permission, and when you brought forth
the dead by My Permission; and when I
restrained the Children of Israel from you
(when they resolved to kill you) as you came
unto them with clear proofs, and the
disbelievers among them said: This is
nothing but evident magic’”
[al-Maa'idah 5:110]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We believe that ‘Eesa was born from the
Virgin Maryam with no father, and that is not
impossible for Allaah Who, when He wills a
thing, says “Be!” and it is.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before
Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created
him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ —
and he was”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]

“(Remember) when the angels said: ‘O
Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allaah gives you the
glad tidings of a Word [‘Be!’ — and he was!
i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)]
from Him, his name will be the Messiah
‘Eesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary),
held in honour in this world and in the
Hereafter, and will be one of those who are
near to Allaah.”
He will speak to the people, in the cradle
and in manhood, and he will be one of the
righteous.’
She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son
when no man has touched me.’ He said: ‘So
(it will be) for Allaah creates what He wills.
When He has decreed something, He says to
it only: “Be!” and it is’”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:45-47]
to be continued......[b]

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abu mu'aadh is my kunya , a student of Oau. Am happy to join my muslim brrthren on this page