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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 2:13pm On Jan 19, 2017
babseg:


ALL FIGHTS SHOULDN'T BE PHYSICAL

SO STOP WASTING YOUR TIME ON HARMLESS PEOPLE BECAUSE YOU THINK THEY WORSHIP JESUS. ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS

Lol. Thank u for sayin dat
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 2:12pm On Jan 19, 2017
analice107:

Sorry i had a flat ba3. I have been following you, but i can't see where you addressed the Op. pls direct me there.
Go to page 6
Religion / Re: Here Are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Medial was silent about. by ibtz: 2:09pm On Jan 19, 2017
felixomor:


Please keep quiet abeg
No white supremacist group is protestant.
Stop bathing in ignorance.

Besides "protestant" can be towards government and it can be towards a race.
Its a man coined word.
Have u seen "Protestant" in bible before?


It's not "jihad" which is boldly in quran.

Stop deceiving yourself
Na wa for u ooo. Pls google is ur friend. U said no white supremacist group is protestant. and protestant is mainly towards christian religion because dis is d definition of protestant .
(Christianity) A member of any of several Christian denominations which separated from the Roman Catholic Church based on theological or political differences during the Reformation (or sometimes later).
U r very very very blind and ignorant. Am sorry bt u r

And i even helped u too google kkk dis is d article frm
Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

Dey r white supremacist, protestant, anti semites and anticatholic who used terrorism. Goshhhh
Ignorance
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 2:01pm On Jan 19, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Can you pls shut up and get out of this thread? Why are you derailing the thread instead of answering the OP?
Lol frustrated guy. But i av said it countless tymes dat i av replied d op. Pls read my prev posts

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 1:59pm On Jan 19, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
You not only quote verses out of context, you also do not understand english.

Christ said that whatsoever you want men to do to you, do also to them. This means that if you want men to hate you, hate them. If you want men to fight you, fight them. All that means that you are the aggressor who shouldn't complain when such is measured back to you.

So, if you are wise, be peaceful with men if you want men to be peaceful with you. Love people if you want people to love you. Be kind to others if you want others to be kind to you.

The verse in no way says that you should fight others when they fight you as commanded by mohammad.

So is dere anytin wrong in God sayin u shud defend ur sef wen u r theatened with danger, for am sure he wud not com down frm heaven to protect. Be wise and protect ur sef , simple commandment dat u want to twist and demonize.

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 1:46pm On Jan 19, 2017
babseg:


2 BILLION TO HUNDRED, THATS FINE

SO THE 2 BILLION MUSLIMS PLUS YOU SHOULD GO AND FIGHT THE HUNDREDS INSTEAD YOU ARGUING WITH THE PEOPLE YOU THINK ARE WORSHIPING JESUS



Dere r soldiers, civilian jtf fighting dem already.
Den u too shud go and fight L.R.A in uganda. If u dont know d meaning of L. R. A pls google it
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 1:45pm On Jan 19, 2017
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2 BILLION TO HUNDRED, THATS FINE

SO THE 2 BILLION MUSLIMS PLUS YOU SHOULD GO AND FIGHT THE HUNDREDS INSTEAD YOU ARGUING WITH THE PEOPLE YOU THINK .

Dere r soldiers, civilian jtf fighting dem already.
Den u too shud go and fight L.R.A in uganda. If u dont know d meaning of L. R. A pls google it

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Religion / Re: Here Are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Medial was silent about. by ibtz: 1:35pm On Jan 19, 2017
felixomor:


And even if its protestant, which is wrong anyway,
And does "protestant" mean Christian?
Stop deceiving yourself abeg.

Even Jesus was not white.

Pls google d meaning of protestant befor u talk

(Christianity) A member of any of several Christian denominations which separated from the Roman Catholic Church based on theological or political differences during the Reformation (or sometimes later)

U r ignorant and u r decieving ur sef. cry
So dere cannot b denominations of protestants like white protestants, black protestants, german protestant. Damn u r seeing somtin bt yet still blind
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 1:28pm On Jan 19, 2017
babseg:


THEY ARE STILL MUSLIMS LIKE YOU

Look at dis verse dat supports wat am sayin

Quran 6:159
As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in themin the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.

So no dey have no basis in the Quran and in islam
Let not the actions of a minority decide d fate of d majority

Boko haram numbers: hundreds
True Muslims : over 2 billion

So y wud u say dat boko haram stands for islam when d over 2 billion majority do not do what they do
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 1:11pm On Jan 19, 2017
babseg:


SO WHY ARE THEY QUOTING THE QURAN BEFORE KILLING undecided
They r misquoting dude. They lie, when dey quote dey will only quote part of the verse or omit and skip anoda verse that list conditions for a commandment.
They boko haram are animals and r d enemies of islam
Look at dis verse dat support what i say

Quran 6:159
As for those who divide their religion and break up into sects, thou hast no part in them in the least: their affair is with Allah: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they did.
Religion / Re: Here Are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Medial was silent about. by ibtz: 12:54pm On Jan 19, 2017
plappville:


Misleading topic. No Christian can be a terrorist according to the Scripture. But the quran instigate terrorism.

Nonsense!!!
A Factual reply to the "Boko Haram" Nonsense!

BOKO HARAM VS RELIGION OF ISLAM

1. The Boko Haram kidnapp girls and force them to change their religion.
While
Islam says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.....” (Qur’an 2:256)

2. The Boko Haram have forcefully married off girls.
While
Islam says: ".....Do not inherit women against their will....." (Qur’an 4:19)

3. The Boko Haram are aggressive towards those who do not follow their beliefs.
While
Islam says: “IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR LORD’S WILL, all of the people on Earth would have believed [in one religion]….” (Quran 10:99)

4. The Boko Haram have murdered thousands of Muslims and Christians alike in cold blood.
While
Islam says: “….If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (Quran 5:32)

5. The Boko Haram use the cover of Islam to commit their mayhem and claim they are doing ALLAH'S work or JIHAD (HOLY WAR).
While
Islam says: “…… BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; FOR GOD LOVES NOT TRANSGRESSORS.” (Qur’an 2:190)"

6. The Boko Haram believe once you are not with them you are an enemy to them.
While
Islam says: “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)......” (Quran 49:13)

7. The Boko Haram have unleashed tyranny and indecency in the land.
While
Islam says: “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny....” (Quran 16:90)

Finally, upon all their false claims it is clear to see that Boko Haram do not represent Islam in any way because, they are acting against Islam.
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 12:52pm On Jan 19, 2017
babseg:


I DONT CARE IF YOU THINK I WORSHIP JESUS THATS MY PROBLEM NOT YOURS. ITS STILL DEY PAIN YOU

INSTEAD OF YOU WASTING YOUR TIME ON PEOPLE YOU THINK THAT THEY ARE WORSHIPING JESUS, GO AND PREACH TO YOUR BROTHER IN SAMBISA FOREST FIRST.

Wetin dey pain am abeg. Lol. Oga u no get wetin u wan use defend, just go u r allowed too. I repeat again Boko haram does nt stand for islam watsoever.

A Factual reply to the "Boko Haram" Nonsense!

BOKO HARAM VS RELIGION OF ISLAM

1. The Boko Haram kidnapp girls and force them to change their religion.
While
Islam says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.....” (Qur’an 2:256)

2. The Boko Haram have forcefully married off girls.
While
Islam says: ".....Do not inherit women against their will....." (Qur’an 4:19)

3. The Boko Haram are aggressive towards those who do not follow their beliefs.
While
Islam says: “IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR LORD’S WILL, all of the people on Earth would have believed [in one religion]….” (Quran 10:99)

4. The Boko Haram have murdered thousands of Muslims and Christians alike in cold blood.
While
Islam says: “….If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (Quran 5:32)

5. The Boko Haram use the cover of Islam to commit their mayhem and claim they are doing ALLAH'S work or JIHAD (HOLY WAR).
While
Islam says: “…… BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; FOR GOD LOVES NOT TRANSGRESSORS.” (Qur’an 2:190)"

6. The Boko Haram believe once you are not with them you are an enemy to them.
While
Islam says: “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)......” (Quran 49:13)

7. The Boko Haram have unleashed tyranny and indecency in the land.
While
Islam says: “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny....” (Quran 16:90)

Finally, upon all their false claims it is clear to see that Boko Haram do not represent Islam in any way because, they are acting against Islam.
Sports / Okocha Was My Idol : Mario Gomez by ibtz: 12:28pm On Jan 19, 2017
The striker revealed dat he loved jj okocha as a kid growing up. Here are his words:

“I didn't like watching football on TV.
It was always so boring to me," Gomez wrote onThe Players' Tribune.
“Why sit in front of the screen, when you could gooutside and play the game for real?“
'Papi, let's go outside!' I'd say, tugging on his arm. 'Let's play!'
“One evening when I was about seven or eight, hehad finally had enough. Instead of shooing me away, he sat me down right next to him.“
'I want you to see this, Mario. Just watch.“'Nooooo! It's boring.'
“My father pointed at the television, 'look! There! Right now!!
“When I looked up, there was an Eintracht Frankfurt player on the screen. He dribbled the ball around the other team's goalkeeper, then around a defender, and then around another defender — just toying with them — until he chipped it easily into the goal.“
"Woahhhhhh,'" I said. 'What did he just do?
“'See?' my father said. 'That's Jay-Jay Okocha. And there's no one else like him.
“From that moment, I dreamed of playing like Jay-Jay. He was my idol.“
"The way he moved the ball — he was like an artist. He did things with a ball I couldn't even imagine. And after seeing that dribble and that goal, I watched the highlights with my father every Sunday.
“I even started watching matches with him as well."

http://m.goal.com/x/en-ng/news/4093/nigerian-football/2017/01/18/31674732/okocha-was-my-idol-growing-up-mario-gomez
Religion / Re: Here Are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Medial was silent about. by ibtz: 12:05pm On Jan 19, 2017
A Factual reply to the "Boko Haram" Nonsense!

BOKO HARAM VS RELIGION OF ISLAM

1. The Boko Haram kidnapp girls and force them to change their religion.
While
Islam says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.....” (Qur’an 2:256)

2. The Boko Haram have forcefully married off girls.
While
Islam says: ".....Do not inherit women against their will....." (Qur’an 4:19)

3. The Boko Haram are aggressive towards those who do not follow their beliefs.
While
Islam says: “IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR LORD’S WILL, all of the people on Earth would have believed [in one religion]….” (Quran 10:99)

4. The Boko Haram have murdered thousands of Muslims and Christians alike in cold blood.
While
Islam says: “….If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (Quran 5:32)

5. The Boko Haram use the cover of Islam to commit their mayhem and claim they are doing ALLAH'S work or JIHAD (HOLY WAR).
While
Islam says: “…… BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; FOR GOD LOVES NOT TRANSGRESSORS.” (Qur’an 2:190)"

6. The Boko Haram believe once you are not with them you are an enemy to them.
While
Islam says: “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)......” (Quran 49:13)

7. The Boko Haram have unleashed tyranny and indecency in the land.
While
Islam says: “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny....” (Quran 16:90)

Finally, upon all their false claims it is clear to see that Boko Haram do not represent Islam in any way because, they are acting against Islam.

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 11:46am On Jan 19, 2017
Analice107 u cannot talk again. Respond now to d reply i gave u
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 11:40am On Jan 19, 2017
babseg:


ANOTHER OLODO IN THE HOUSE

PLEASE TELL ME ANY CHRISTIAN THAT WORSHIPS JESUS

WE ARE ONLY FOLLOWING JOHN 3 .16

AND I DONT CARE IF YOU SEE SON OF GOD IN JOHN 3.16

IT WORKING FOR US CHRISTIANS

I GUESS WHATEVER IS IN YOUR QURAN IS NOT WORKING YOU BETTER GIVE YOUR LIFE TO JESUS

INSTEAD OF YOU ATTACKING CHRISTIAN GO TO SAMBISA FOREST AND PREACH THE QURAN TO THEM



O rily. Christians dont worship jesus. !!!

Lyk wen christians pray, In d name of jesus,
Or wen dey say jesus is lord, or wen dey say jesus is God in Man form, or jesus is divine .Olodo check wat ur fellow Christians av been posting on d thread since and c for ur sef.
Christians dont worship jesus. Lol. Den wat r d worshippin. Mehn u r funny sha.

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Religion / Re: Here Are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Medial was silent about. by ibtz: 11:27am On Jan 19, 2017
felixomor:


Sharrap....
What is the relationship between "white supremacy" and "protestant"?

U dont have a dictionary, use Google
Dey r white protestants. Hw cant u c d relationship
Dey r a protestant organization that use violence and have history of attacking catholics and jews.

Its in d ops writeup. Rd itttttttt

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 11:22am On Jan 19, 2017
analice107:

Is the Op about Jesus' divinity or about Allah helping Christianity to spread? stop jumping like a toad.
This is d upteenth tym am writin dis yet no one has responded rd below





I believe i av ansad d op question since in my prev posts, pls read my prev posts and if u cant, let me save u d hardwork. I av compiled all my prev posts into one nw below:

God is not responsible for d spread of falsehood, errors and wrongdoings that man perpetuates, satan is responsible for all that.
Jesus told his disciplses to worship one God (thy Lord thy God). I believe jesus neva told his disciples dat "worship me"

Dere are many verses in d bible dat says worship only one God

Matthew 19:16-17
Mark 12:32-34
John 17:3
Mark 12:28-30

Jesus neva said to worship him but thy lord thy God in heaven.
Now lets look at jesus christ as d son of god
What is d definition of son?

'A male child, a boy or man in relation to his parents; one's male offspring".
"A male person who has such a close relationship with an older or otherwise more authoritative person that he can be regarded as a son of the other person."
"A male person considered to have been significantly shaped by some external influence."


There are also many verses in d bible dat call ppl son of God: KJV
Read 1 Chronicles 22:10
Luke 3:38
Romans 8:14
Job 38:7

Frm dis bible verses above we can call various ppl as d son of God
Frm dis we can conclude dat christians falsely believe christ as a biological son of God instead of as a man influenced and guided by God

Lets even luk at dis, God dat destroyed nations for ppl worshipping anytin other than him will now turn around
and present his son for ppl to worship, is dat not accusing God of Double standards, not to even to mention fathering his own biological son from one of his creations isn't dat accusing God of incest.Glory be to God. There is no other God except Allah

Now u say d term "son of God " is a jewish custom, so it means son of God is not divine but the term son of man is divine?
Look at it "Son of Man", really?

So no God is not responsible for it.
If by ur logic God is also responsible for d spread of idol worship which persists till today. Then i ask u Is God Responsible for d spread of Idol worship.
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 11:18am On Jan 19, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
Satan tempts even God. That's why he's called the accuser. He was always opposing God's view while in heaven until he got banished from heaven.

That is highly preposterous, satan tempt God!!! This is blasphemy of d highest order. Satan!!!!!
God!!!!! Woww.

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 11:12am On Jan 19, 2017
A Factual reply to the "Boko Haram" Nonsense!

BOKO HARAM VS RELIGION OF ISLAM

1. The Boko Haram kidnapp girls and force them to change their religion.
While
Islam says: “Let there be no compulsion in religion.....” (Qur’an 2:256)

2. The Boko Haram have forcefully married off girls.
While
Islam says: ".....Do not inherit women against their will....." (Qur’an 4:19)

3. The Boko Haram are aggressive towards those who do not follow their beliefs.
While
Islam says: “IF IT HAD BEEN YOUR LORD’S WILL, all of the people on Earth would have believed [in one religion]….” (Quran 10:99)

4. The Boko Haram have murdered thousands of Muslims and Christians alike in cold blood.
While
Islam says: “….If any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people...” (Quran 5:32)

5. The Boko Haram use the cover of Islam to commit their mayhem and claim they are doing ALLAH'S work or JIHAD (HOLY WAR).
While
Islam says: “…… BUT DO NOT TRANSGRESS LIMITS; FOR GOD LOVES NOT TRANSGRESSORS.” (Qur’an 2:190)"

6. The Boko Haram believe once you are not with them you are an enemy to them.
While
Islam says: “O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other)......” (Quran 49:13)

7. The Boko Haram have unleashed tyranny and indecency in the land.
While
Islam says: “God commands justice and doing good and giving to relatives. And He forbids indecency and doing wrong and tyranny....” (Quran 16:90)

Finally, upon all their false claims it is clear to see that Boko Haram do not represent Islam in any way because, they are acting against Islam.

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Religion / Re: Here Are 8 Christian Terrorist Organizations That Medial was silent about. by ibtz: 11:04am On Jan 19, 2017
felixomor:


If u read the thread, how come a white supremacist group is listed there as a Christian group?

Was Jesus white?
Damn u r so ignorant, he didnt say jesus is white, the op said d white supremacist group is a protestant organization. Its even u dat did nt rd it well

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 10:23am On Jan 19, 2017
See u ppl sef doin as if u follow d teachins of christ

And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew:6:5

Do u follow dat verse above,

Or dis one,
Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Matthew:6:2

Now read dis post on easter by femi aribisala a christian
https://www.nairaland.com/3013047/why-christians-should-not-celebrate

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 10:15am On Jan 19, 2017
true2god:
The translation is 'deceive' and not 'plot'. By the way, why did allahh deceive the people to make them believe Jesus was crucified? What does allahh have to gain doing this?
Pls oo, wich transalation r u reading oo.
I am reading Yusuf Ali oo. Or ar u arab nii?

Do u know arabic at all?
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 10:13am On Jan 19, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
You didn't read the verse at all. When the early Christians were getting killed, was it not called persecution?

See what the below verse says about when we are persecuted.

Mathew 5:44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Christ says we should pray for them, not persecute them too like Mohammad commanded Muslims.
If jesus said pray for thy enemies, he also said dis:

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
Matthew:7:12

So mehn if ur lyf is in danger, protect ur sef.
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 9:42am On Jan 19, 2017
"God is not a man, that he should lie, nor a son of man, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?  (From the NIV Bible, Numbers 23:19)"

So afta destroyin nations for worshipping anytin oda dan him, he now changed his mind and said ok now worship my son jesus.

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 8:57am On Jan 19, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
You didn't read the verse at all. When the early Christians were getting killed, was it not called persecution?

See what the below verse says about when we are persecuted.

Mathew 5:44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Christ says we should pray for them, not persecute them too like Mohammad commanded Muslims.

And i don't even think jesus disciples wu were only twelve wud av been able to defend demselves against multitudes of jews against dem. Dey were small in no. Its similar to Muhammad, in d first 10 yrs of his mission, he was in mecca facing persecution, pagans killing his followers, left, rite and centre, he was insulted, stoned. But no, he persisted for ten gud years before Allah commanded him to move with his followers to medina. But d arab pagans went to dem in medina to kill dem again. But Allah commanded, fight against those wu fight u but if they cease, dey muslims shud cease also. So now u see afta facin 10 gud yrs of merciless killing and maiming, d pagans still pursued dem even afta wen d muslims left. D pagans had a mission to destroy every single muslim.
Read dis verse again

Quran 60:8 Allah does not forbid yu to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against yu on account of religion nor drove yu out of ur homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
Quran 60:9 It is only as regards to those who fought against yu on religion, and have driven u out of ur homes, and helped to drive u out, that Allah forbids u to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the zalimun (wrong doers)


Imagine a force of 10,000 men against 1,000. Wu is d aggressor, wu is being oppressed.
Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 8:31am On Jan 19, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
You didn't read the verse at all. When the early Christians were getting killed, was it not called persecution?

See what the below verse says about when we are persecuted.

Mathew 5:44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Christ says we should pray for them, not persecute them too like Mohammad commanded Muslims.
So u r sayin if a man brings a gun to ur hse and tries to kill u but u also av a gun, u will pray for him or u will defend ur sef

Quran 60:8 Allah does not forbid yu to deal justly and kindly with those who fought not against yu on account of religion nor drove yu out of ur homes. Verily, Allah loves those who deal with equity.
Quran 60:9 It is only as regards to those who fought against yu on religion, and have driven u out of ur homes, and helped to drive u out, that Allah forbids u to befriend them. And whosoever will befriend them, then such are the zalimun (wrong doers)

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 8:09am On Jan 19, 2017
true2god:
But they (the Jews) were deceptive , and Allah was deceptive, for Allah is the best of deceivers (Wamakaroo
wamakara Allahu waAllahu khayru al-makireena )! Koran 3:54

"And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them ; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain". koran 4:157

These two verses show that allah was a deceptive being. Why can't allahh be straightforward? Why can't allahh prevent an incidence instead of allowing it, and at the same time confusing and deceiving people in the course of the alleged incident?

Islam is a bad apple planted and harvested by the Arabs for global consumption.

Y? Y did u sickly translate Quran 3:54 .
Yusuf Ali
Wa ma karuu wamakarallahu wa allahu khayru l- makeeren.

The correct translation is. And they plotted (to kill Isa A. S) and Allah plotted too, and Allah is the Best of those who plot.

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 7:43am On Jan 19, 2017
alBHAGDADI:
You don't understand the temptation Satan used that's why you think the verse he quoted was for Yahshua alone.

Those temptations are the exact same way Satan has and had been using to tempt mankind from the beginning.

First, he told Yahshua to turn stone into bread. He knew Yahshua was hungry at that time after fasting for 40 days and 40 nights. He simply used Yahshua's need to tempt him. That's the same way he uses our needs to tempt us to do evil e.g you embezzling company funds just cos you seriously need a car.

Secondly, he told Yahshua to jump from a high mountain and even quoted the scripture stating that God will send his angels to protect him and prevent him from hurting his feet. Yahshua answered him by saying "thou shall not tempt the lord your God". It is equivalent to you climbing a skyscraper with the aim to jump simply because the scriptures say God will send angels to protect you. That is you tempting God, cos God will only send his angels to protect you if you mistakenly fall, not when you deliberately fall. So, that verse that Satan quoted was talking about God saving us from falling in every aspect of life unknowingly, not when we deliberately fall just to test if He will save us. That was why Yahshua didn't take the challenge cos he knew it will equate to him testing YAHWEH. If Satan should use this 2nd temptation to tempt you, he will quote a Bible scripture to deceive you. Now, that doesn't mean that the scripture was solely designed for you alone. If I quote "goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life", does that mean that the verse was for me alone?

The third temptation is still something Satan is using today. People e.g musicians sell their soul just to have riches and fame or empires. Satan showed Yahshua the kingdoms of this world in all their riches and greatness. He then told him that he will give it all to him if he will now down and worship him. Isn't that what musicians, celebrities and politicians do today, bow down and worship Satan in form of Illuminati just for power and fame?

Can you now see that those temptations were faced by Yahshua for us all to see and know how to overcome them.
Yu said
"Those temptations are d exact same way dat satan has been using to tempt mankind". This is evidence dat Satan only tempts humans, not God. If jesus is God, he wud av all Godlike attributes. U cant say jesus is God and he has only some part of God attributes. This analogy is similar to d greek gods zeus, hades and d rest. Can satan tempt God or a part of God? He wudnt even dare!!!

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Religion / Re: Did Allah Help The Spread Of Christianity? by ibtz: 7:06am On Jan 19, 2017
ilynem:

Hmmmm. You haven't even answered my question. We aren't arguing if Jesus was the son of God or not. We are arguing if Allah helped start Christianity or not. Now let me address your son of God statement so you can answer my question. Said it before, the term "son of God" was not a divine term. These days we use it as one but it wasn't a divine term according to Jewish customs. But "son of man" was the divine term. Now I will advice you to read Daniel chapter 7: 13 and 14 and compare it with mark 14 : 62 and 63. Daniel explains who the "son if man" is and Jesus clearly calls himself the son of man. So now we have addressed that, can you answer my question?



I believe i av ansad d op question since in my prev posts, pls read my prev posts and if u cant, let me save u d hardwork. I av compiled all my prev posts into one nw below:

God is not responsible for d spread of falsehood, errors and wrongdoings that man perpetuates, satan is responsible for all that.
Jesus told his disciplses to worship one God (thy Lord thy God). I believe jesus neva told his disciples dat "worship me"

Dere are many verses in d bible dat says worship only one God

Matthew 19:16-17
Mark 12:32-34
John 17:3
Mark 12:28-30

Jesus neva said to worship him but thy lord thy God in heaven.
Now lets look at jesus christ as d son of god
What is d definition of son?

'A male child, a boy or man in relation to his parents; one's male offspring".
"A male person who has such a close relationship with an older or otherwise more authoritative person that he can be regarded as a son of the other person."
"A male person considered to have been significantly shaped by some external influence."


There are also many verses in d bible dat call ppl son of God: KJV
Read 1 Chronicles 22:10
Luke 3:38
Romans 8:14
Job 38:7

Frm dis bible verses above we can call various ppl as d son of God
Frm dis we can conclude dat christians falsely believe christ as a biological son of God instead of as a man influenced and guided by God

Lets even luk at dis, God dat destroyed nations for ppl worshipping anytin other than him will now turn around
and present his son for ppl to worship, is dat not accusing God of Double standards, not to even to mention fathering his own biological son from one of his creations isn't dat accusing God of incest.Glory be to God. There is no other God except Allah

Now u say d term "son of God " is a jewish custom, so it means son of God is not divine but the term son of man is divine?
Look at it "Son of Man", really?

So no God is not responsible for it.
If by ur logic God is also responsible for d spread of idol worship which persists till today. Then i ask u Is God Responsible for d spread of Idol worship.
Religion / Re: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by ibtz: 10:56pm On Jan 18, 2017
analice107:


You need a lesson in Islam?

The Qur'an says: "Fight and slay the pagans [Christians] wherever ye find them and seize them, confine them, and lie in wait for them in every place of ambush" (Surah 9:5)

2:190-193 Fight in the cause of God, those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out: For tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; But fight them not at the sacred Mosque unless they first fight you there; But if they fight you, Slay them.

Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, Let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression."


2:216-217 Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not. They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say:

"Fighting therein is a grave (offense); but graver is it in the sight of God to prevent access to the path of God, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members. Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter.

Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be Companions of the Fire and will abide therein.


2:244-245 Then fight in the cause of God, and know that God heareth and knoweth all things. Who is he that will loan to God a beautiful loan, which God will double unto his credit and multiply many times? It is God that giveth (you) want or plenty, and to Him shall be your return.

4:74-77 Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for the Hereafter, to him who fighteth in the cause of God, whether he is slain or gets victory, soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).

And why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)? Men, women, and children whose cry is: "Our Lord! rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from Thee one who will protect; and raise for us from Thee one who will help!"

Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith fight in the cause of evil: so fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan.

Hast thou not turned thy vision to those who were told to hold back their hands (form fight) but establish regular prayers and spend in regular charity? When (at length) the order for fighting was issued to them, behold! a section of them feared men as, or even more than, they should have feared God: they say: "Our Lord! why hast Thou ordered us to fight? Wouldst Thou not grant us respite to our (natural) term, near (enough)?" Say: "Short is the enjoyment of this world: the Hereafter is the best for those who do right: never will ye be dealt with unjustly in the very least!


4:95-96 Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home).

Unto all (in Faith) Hath God promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward: Ranks specially bestowed by Him, and Forgiveness and Mercy. For God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily God guideth not a people unjust.

5:72-73: They do blaspheme who say: "God is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship God, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other.

This is your koran commanding you to kill Christians and Jews.

Wow did u take ur tym to read dis b4 u posted. It is mentioning God oo. And d pagans u r referring to is d arab pagans that existed in d tym of Muhammad who killed and maimed every muslim dey came across in Mecca. The prophet migrated to medina and still dey gathered to kill him. It clearly states in d verses u posted above attack only if u r attacked first. D Quran never mentioned christians as pagans but instead called dem directly or called dem people of the book (past scriptures). It says Fight against justice and opression. U just copy pasted without even reading all d verses .
There were christians and Jews livin with him in medina and dere was neva any problem. Did u know dat?
Religion / Re: What If God Exists? (best Post You'll Ever Come Across) by ibtz: 10:39pm On Jan 18, 2017
analice107:

Hahahahahahahahaha. O yeah? So which Deity are you going to present to the atheists?



U r just so silly mehn lol. I said D God of Abraham is d God of Muhammad. God in heaven, the creator of all things, master of the universe. Oh ok i have forgotten dat u ppl worship jesus. Sori ooo. Lol. I dont worship jesus if dats wat u av been grumbling abt for. Jesus didn't Create u, worship the only One God dat created u.
Salam aleikum

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