@retro: and who do you support in 3 hours, when france is out? ;-)

@christino: no thats wrong, brazil won the cup in europe, 1958 in sweden

you should go to germany to celebrate with the germans and making party instead of hating people you dont know, and may be, if you would feel the actually atmosphere in germany, you would mention that all your anti-german stereotypes are nonsense, but if you want, still further hate the germans, if you feel better than, i dont know.

ah, i dont keep my "rotten" shame to myself, but im sorry, i didnt see that youre from belgium, commonly those ignorant wwII bullshit ("those hitlers") is the vocabular of the english (particulary by the english tabloids), but this was, to be apparent, heady by myself,

those hitlers? sorry, thats so typical english, shame on you!
no eyes for changes and reality in modern germany, !?

berlin, berlin, we're going to berlin! ;-)

just look:

england - ecuador 1:0
germany - ecuador 3:0

england - sweden 2:2
germany - sweden 2:0

;-)

germany and argentina are clearly the only top favorites, may be spain , but sorry, england no chance, may be they can win the players-wife world cup but not this cup, =) and brazil, may be they would win the single player world cup, but not this one *g*

nice @christino,

but germany won the cup '54, '74 and 1990

so look ---> 54 * 74 - 1990 = 2006

;-)