It's one thing to believe in what u believe but it's entirely another thing to abuse or castigate others. It either shows an act of desperation or Jealousy or both. You hardly see a Catholic priest criticize another denomination yet must pastors in other denomination will be comfortable enough to preach against Catholicism for the whole sermon.
If only some of us knew how long and the difficulties the Catholic Church had before it came to a conclusion that the Blessed mother must b revered, your arguments would have been different.
In as much as I don't agree with u, I completely respect your opinion. someone even said Catholic is Antichrist, I don't knw his reason but with such ability to knw the denomination that is Antichrist, He can as well b able to look u in the face and tell u if u are going to heaven or not.
When Catholics say that all that happ

SalC:
Who is a believer? I don't mean by lip service but a true believer and what prevents a believer who is sanctified from being a saint?

Get the definitions right Salc. A believer is anyone that is sanctified in Christ Jesus while a Saint someone that lived a life of exceptional Holiness.
So, common knowledge should tell u that not all believers are saints. the next question is:
How do u know if someone lived a life of exceptional Holiness?
That IMO is only left for God to judge. The Catholic Church however examine the life of some Christians who lived exceptional lives or did extraordinary things through the power of the Lord and canonize them as Saints. Some of these saints have some or most part of their body incorrupt after several months or years of there death Which is a clear sign that there's something extraordinary about it.
so dear, that u are sanctified in Christ Jesus doesn't automatically make u a saint.

The argument on whether Blessed Mary has other children or not will neva cease, Even the 4th century theologians had different opinions on that.
However, One thing is pristine clear, SHE MUST BE REVERED as it's stated that "all generations shall call her blessed" and the fact our Lord Jesus did a miracle even when it wasn't time shows how important her intercession can be.
From "Revelation 8:4 And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand" we understand that the prayers of the saints reaches d Almighty God, How about the prayer the Blessed Mother "full of grace"? Immaculate conception has happened once in this life, why was she the choice?
Whether she later had more children will not take away her honour.
A practical example has always been given that "Sometimes it's easier to beg the mother of someone you've offended to help u talk to her son than go to the person directly"
We pray to God through Jesus Christ but we can also call on the Blessed mother to intercede between us and her son Jesus Christ. What happened in Fatima, 1917 was no fluke.
It's my opinion anyway...

SalC:
And who told you who is a believer, am surprised you don't know every believer is a saint. Read 1 cor 1:1-2

SalC:
And who told you who is a believer, am surprised you don't know every believer is a saint. Read 1 cor 1:1-2

please, let's not misinterpret things. KJV says in
1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, CALLED TO BE SAINTS, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
The word, "to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints" doesn't mean that every believer is a saint. A better interpretation is that all saints are believers but surely all believers are not saints.

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