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CHAP. XIV. The earliest prophecy of the coming of Christ. THEN Adam said unto God: "O Lord, take Thou my soul, and let me not see this gloom any more; or remove me to some place where there is no darkness." 2 But God the Lord said to Adam, "Verily I say unto thee, this darkness will pass from thee, every day I have determined for thee, until the fulfilment of My covenant; when I will save thee and bring thee back again into the garden, into the abode of light thou longest for, wherein is no darkness. I will bring thee, to it--in the kingdom of heaven." p. 13 3 Again said God unto Adam, "All this misery that thou hast been made to take upon thee because of thy transgression, will not free thee from the hand of Satan, and will not save thee. 4 "But I will. When I shall come down from heaven, and shall become flesh of thy seed, and take upon Me the infirmity from which thou sufferest, then the darkness that came upon thee in this cave shall come upon Me in the grave, when I am in the flesh of thy seed. 5 "And I, who am without years, shall be subject to the reckoning of years, of times, of months, and of days, and I shall be reckoned as one of the sons of men, in order to save thee." 6 And God ceased to commune with Adam. from the Forgotten books of Eden: the First book Adam and Eve |
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kingxsamz: if am not wise, you then must be blind I don't know your faith (if u have any) but ur comment shows your daftness and ignorance this was a statement made by the op " If you are tired of begging any god for a drop of grace" If u were wise u would already conclude to where the misguided op is heading. because hw has completely denied the fact that grace is a gift and is given by a supernatural being and not something u cook up or try to control like luck |
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Afromentalist: my soul isn't troubled but not surprised when people like u think u can do without God. I have said all I can. its ur problem not mine |
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Afromentalist: o! u can't even answer the question but avoid it with your deceitful logic 1 Like |
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oh simple humans of the earth. how narrow in reasoning is the mindset of the op "Grace is a gift to do something on our behalf that we can't not do" - Monroe it is only a fool that thinks that he/she can be in control of all things Answer me this will be using a familiar example in the Bible supposing you were an Israelite in Egypt, just before the angel of death would come to kill every first born child in land. what is your science of grace to deliver yourself and your family upon a heavenly judgement passed on the land ? it was God's grace of the blood of lamb on doors that protected the Israelites from the angel of death.. how would u a mere mortal with your tiny grey matter protect yourself since you boast of a scientific grace first go and understand the meaning of grace before you preach false teachings here 4 Likes |
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freeman500: also another revelation about the passages u quoted implies that those who will kill Cain are sinners (murderers). because if they hadn't fallen. they won't kill. and we all know who fell. and it was the seeds of Cain that populated from a distant land carrying the iniquity of their father with them and committing all sorts of iniquity over there. the Second book of Adam and Eve revealed it all. |
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freeman500: God Cursed a fear and trembling in Cain, he took away his peace, so imagine yourself having no peace mind and thinking that anything whether animals/humans that came ur way would kill u. its was a curse that made Cain have a mental paranoia thinking there were others moreover read this book completely.. there were verses that revealed Satan tempting Adam and his family especially with the deceit that there were others God made but which was false. also the book revealed how Cain died. Just like Adam they all never knew what was in the strange land they were now living in having been driven out from the garden. they were assumptions in their mind that God himself had to clarify because they he created weren't all knowing but needed learning of their environment |
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THE SECOND BOOK OF Adam and Eve. CHAP. I. The grief stricken family. Cain marries Luluwa and they move away . WHEN Luluwa heard Cain's words, she wept and went to her father and mother, and told them how that Cain had killed his brother Abel. 2 Then they all cried aloud and lifted up their voices, and slapped their faces, and threw dust upon their heads, and rent asunder their garments, and went out and came to the place where Abel was killed. 3 And they found him lying on the earth, killed, and beasts around him; while they wept and cried because of this just one. From his body, by reason of its purity, went forth a smell of sweet spices. 4 And Adam carried him, his tears streaming down his face; and went to the Cave of Treasures, where he laid him, and wound him up with sweet spices and myrrh. 5 And Adam and Eve continued by the burial of him in great grief a hundred and forty days. Abel was fifteen and a half years old, and Cain seventeen years and a half. 6 As for Cain, when the mourning for his brother was ended, he took his sister Luluwa and married her, without leave from his father and mother; for they could not keep him from her, by reason of their heavy heart. 7 He then went down to the bottom of the mountain, away from the garden, near to the place where he had killed his brother. 8 And in that place were many fruit trees and forest trees. His sister bare him children, who in their turn began to multiply by degrees until they filled that place. 9 But as for Adam and Eve, they came not together after Abel's funeral, for seven years. After this, however, Eve conceived; and while she was with child, Adam said to her "Come, let us take an offering and offer it up unto God, and ask Him to give us a fair child, in whom we may find comfort, and whom we may join in marriage to Abel's sister." 10 Then they prepared an offering and brought it up to the altar, and offered it before the Lord, and began to entreat Him to accept their offering, and to give them a good offspring. 11 And God heard Adam and accepted his offering. Then, they worshipped, Adam, Eve, and their daughter, and came down to the Cave of Treasures and placed a lamp in it, to burn by night and by day, before the body of Abel. 12 Then Adam and Eve continued fasting and praying until Eve's time came that she should be delivered, when she said to Adam: "I wish to go to the cave in the rock, to bring forth in it." 13 And he said, "Go and take with thee thy daughter to wait on thee; but I will remain in this Cave of Treasures before p. 61 the body of my son Abel." 14 Then Eve hearkened to Adam, and went, she and her daughter. But Adam remained by himself in the Cave of Treasures. |
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CHAP. LXXV. The family revisits the Cave of Treasures. Birth of Abel and Aklemia. THEN Adam prepared an offering, and he and Eve offered it up for their children, and brought it to the altar they had built at first. 2 And Adam offered up the offering, and besought God to accept his offering. 3 Then God accepted Adam's offering, and sent a light from heaven that shone upon the offering. And Adam and the son drew near to the offering, but Eve and the daughter did not approach unto it. 4 Then Adam came down from upon the altar, and they were joyful; and Adam and Eve waited until the daughter was eighty days old; then Adam prepared an offering and took it to Eve and to the children; and they went to the altar, where Adam offered it up, as he was wont, asking the Lord to accept his offering. 5 And the Lord accepted the offering of Adam and Eve. Then Adam, Eve, and the children, drew near together, and came down from the mountain, rejoicing. 6 But they returned not to the cave in which they were born; but came to the Cave of Treasures, in order that the children should go round it, and be blessed with the tokens brought from the garden. 7 But after they had been blessed with these tokens, they went back to the cave in which they were born. 8 However, before Eve had offered up the offering, Adam had taken her, and had gone with her to the river of water, in which they threw themselves at first; and there they washed themselves. Adam washed his body and Eve hers also clean, after the suffering and distress that had come upon them. 9 But Adam and Eve, after washing themselves in the river of water, returned every night to the Cave of Treasures, where they prayed and were blessed; and then went back to their cave where the children were born 10 So did Adam and Eve until the children had done sucking. Then, when they were weaned, Adam made an offering for the souls of his children; other than the three times he made an offering for them, every week. 11 When the days of nursing the children were ended, Eve again conceived, and when her days were accomplished she brought forth another son and daughter; and they named the son Abel, and the daughter Aklia. 12 Then at the end of forty days, Adam made an offering for the son, and at the end of eighty days he made another offering for the daughter, and did by them, as he had done before by Cain and his sister Luluwa. 13 He brought them to the Cave of Treasures, where they received a blessing, and then returned to the cave where they were born. After the birth of these, Eve ceased from childbearing. |
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This is from the first book of Adam and Eve. chapters were copied and pasted to share with those that seek answers. you are welcomed to research & read more about the book which is amongst other books compiled in the forgotten books of Eden. Google search. CHAP. LXXIV. The birth of Cain and Luluwa. Why they received those names . AND they dwelt on the earth working, in order to continue in the well-being of their bodies; and were so until the nine months of Eve's childbearing were ended, and the time drew near when she must be delivered. 2 Then she said unto Adam, "This cave is a pure spot by reason of the signs wrought in it since we left the garden; and we shall again pray in it. It is not meet, then, that I should bring forth in it; let us rather repair to that of the sheltering rock, which Satan hurled at us, when he wished to kill us with it; but that was held up and spread as an awning over us by the command of God; and formed a cave." 3 Then Adam removed Eve to that cave; and when the time came that she should bring forth, she travailed much. So was Adam sorry, and his heart suffered for her sake; for she was nigh unto death; that the word of God to her should be fulfilled: "In suffering shalt thou bear a child, and in sorrow shalt thou bring forth thy child." 4 But when Adam saw the strait in which Eve was, he arose and prayed to God, and said, "O Lord, look upon me with the eye of Thy mercy, and bring her out of her distress." 5 And God looked at His maid-servant Eve, and delivered her, and she brought forth her first-born son, and with him a daughter. 6 Then Adam rejoiced at Eve's deliverance, and also over the children she had borne him. And Adam ministered unto Eve in the cave, until the end of eight days; when they named the son Cain, and the daughter Luluwa. 7 The meaning of Cain is "hater," because he hated his sister in their mother's womb; ere they came out of it. Therefore did Adam name him Cain. 8 But Luluwa means "beautiful," because she was more beautiful than her mother. 9 Then Adam and Eve waited until Cain and his sister were forty days old, when Adam said unto Eve, "We will make an offering and offer it up in behalf of the children." 10 And Eve said, "We will make one offering for the firstborn son; and afterwards we shall make one for the daughter." |
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go and read the book of Adam and Eve (the first & second) and get a clearer understanding. the name of the wife is mentioned there |
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go and read the book of Adam and Eve (the first & second) and get a clearer understanding. the name of the wife is mentioned there |
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go and read the book of Adam and Eve (the first &
second) and get a clearer understanding.
the name of the wife is mentioned there |
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Empiree: what you said matches with the first book of Adam and Eve |
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go and read the book of Adam and Eve (the first &
second) and get a clearer understanding.
the name of the wife is mentioned there |
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solite3: go and read the book of Adam and Eve (the first & second) and get a clearer understanding. the name of the wife is mentioned there |
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go read the book of Adam and Eve if u call it fiction or don't properly understood what they meant. stop asking then since it seems u don't want to know the truth. |
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orunto27: did u read any place that I said evil was in Heaven ? |
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I will solve poverty crisis and make wealth access available using well established plans for all regions if interested in my vendetta, quote me |
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please do endeavor to read the forgotten books of Eden; especially the first book of Adam & Eve to understand many more things that happened after Adam and Eve fell. |
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"Its only a fool that will say there is no God" such is popular saying and till now hasn't been sufficiently disproved and may I say never also have you heard "it's only a fool that will say there is nothing like evil" Question: where did evil come from ? if you don't believe God but believe there is evil are you not a fool ? if you believe God and believe not that evil exists are you not a fool" for if you believe evil exists then surely you believe in that unseen but manifest through human actions thus; where is the origin of Evil ? for the thinkers who will childishly stroll down the lane to talk of culture variations, society labelling, etc I asked you this; if you labor all day and made 20 millionaire naira and while going back home a group of men accosted you and stole your hard earned money isn't it evil ? no matter which culture locality/country it will be labelled bad/crime/unwanted all in family of Evil. After the fall of man many of us readers of the Bible usually miss one thing..man was stripped of his divine nature just like Satan. thus was he given the flesh called also the animal flesh that would thirst and be hungry. (please read the first book of Adam and Eve) thus many of us behave like animals even to the point comparing ourselves/DNAs with other animals but if so then why can't we stop labeling our various actions good and evil like we don't have in the animal kingdom. this is because we aren't animals but humans. don't points to higher intelligence because even plants have a residue of intelligence and why is it only humans that have higher intelligence than other living things ? the flesh we wear is brutish and evil is a knowledge; Evil simply means contrary to what exists. thus if by sociology we learn everything from our environment and from the actions of others where was evil learnt from ? Evil is unseen and is buried in human hearts; from our thoughts, words and actions, in which I vehemently doubt was produced by our DNA. I recall a verse in the Bible; "Wickedness in high places" if we say there is no God but believe in a nature unseen that influences the way we think of others, what we say to others even behind their backs and the horrors we do against others without restraint then our case is worse for its like we rather allow bar Jesus to be set free than to believe in Christ Jesus Evil is a knowledge and knowledge is transferred but who transferred it ? because nature didn't teach us that Evil is a nature and not nurture so how does evil exists ? don't compare entirely the human nature with the animal kingdom because they don't know adultery, they don't know back biting, malice, torture, dishonor,etc they steal from each other, they fight, they topple each other from power, they have sex like crazy, they care for each other, etc all these are natural in their eyes we lost what was natural in our eyes which was the nature of holiness & righteousness and knew another nature which was called Good & Evil. the animals don't know that nature but only we humans; that's why they can't label their acts good and evil (even being confused to whats right & wrong nowadays) but we humans do even though we wear the animal flesh that hungers, thirst and has survival instincts unlike the divine body nature we lost after the fall so for the unbelievers against the existence of God why believe in Evil ? |
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mine own is that I can never cross over to Muslim faith that is promising its believers their end will be fucking many Virgin women in their Paradise why they killed people. and their women weren't promised much but only subjects to sexual intercourse. their prophet as well was depraved of having sex and I heard he died not for the world but on top of a woman. these are the key truths they proudly follow and call Christians infidels. but in Christianity its totally the opposite the end reward isn't fucking women, men and women will become like angels with no need for intimacy. because its spiritual only in the physical is there a need for intimacy (Muslims think about that) and lastly our master we follow died on the cross for our sinful ways compare and contrast 1 Like |
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LOGOBELT: why ? your worst mistake is turning back now for the world |
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Janet96: the simple answer which is a question is... in the act of masturbation is the person lusting after another person in his heart as a kind of stimuli to reach cum ? if you answer correctly then you will know if its sin or not according to Christ teaching about lusting in the heart even with your eyes 1 Like |
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mrZENographer: am not forcing you to believe it u can hold on to ur narrow mindset and while at it help answer wanting questions in Genesis.. see how ignorant you are and research. tell me how Genesis was written ? secondly why did the Roman catholic remove some books from the Bible if it was a standard as u claim have you heard of other books discovered and being translated currently ? you are ignorant of all this but u open that ur mouth to shout lies am not against the Bible in any way and this first book of Adam and Eve gave more insights and compliments Genesis that has two accounts of creation what u don't know or understand don't be in a hurry to criticise like a Pharisee because they too would use that same verse against Christ so stop ur ignorance and be wise in asking the write question, no one is all knowing except God. so stop ur ignorance |
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mrZENographer: please ur evidence that its false u ignorant fellow. if the book is lies pls take the forum and answer all questions related to Genesis. ur reasoning is whack I suspect u aren't open minded and you don't want people to be further enlightened. if its lies provide evidence and if u can't pls explain some raised questions in Genesis and if u can't shut up. quoting and twisting verse doesn't make u right and I wrong |
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mrZENographer: please ur evidence that its false u ignorant fellow. if the book is lies pls take the forum and answer all questions related to Genesis. ur reasoning is whack I suspect u aren't open minded and you don't want people to be further enlightened. if its lies provide evidence and if u can't pls explain some raised questions in Genesis and if u can't shut up |
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mrZENographer: pls your evidence & stop being foolish am open minded and if u have evidence its lies then I will take it down. but if u don't shut up I don't know ur mission; quoting a verse proves nothing but u merely twisting it and quoting out of context. |
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CHAP. XXXV. God's reply. THEN God looked again upon Adam and his weeping and groaning, and the Word of God came to him, and said unto him:-- 2 "O Adam, when thou wast in My garden, thou knewest neither eating nor drinking; neither faintness nor suffering; neither leanness of flesh, nor change; neither did sleep depart from thine eyes. But since thou transgressedst, and camest into this strange land, all these trials are come upon thee." To be continued tomorrow |
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CHAP. XXXIV. Adam recalls the creation of Eve. He eloquently appeals for food and drink . AND on the morning of the forty-third day, they came out of the cave, sorrowful and weeping. Their bodies were lean, and they were parched from hunger and thirst, from fasting and praying, and from their heavy sorrow on account of their transgression. 2 And when they had come out of the cave they went up the mountain to the west of the garden. 3 There they stood and prayed and besought God to grant them forgiveness of their sins. 4 And after their prayers Adam began to entreat 'God, saying, "O my Lord my God, and my Creator, thou didst command the four elements to be gathered together, and they were gathered together by Thine order. 5 "Then Thou spreadest Thy p. 24 hand and didst create me out of one element, that of dust of the earth; and Thou didst bring me into the garden at the third hour, on a Friday, and didst inform me of it in the cave. 6 "Then, at first, I knew neither night nor day, for I had a bright nature; neither did the light in which I lived ever leave me to know night or day. 7 "Then, again, O Lord, in that third hour in which Thou didst create me, Thou broughtest to me all beasts, and lions, and ostriches, and fowls of the air, and all things that move in the earth, which Thou hadst created at the first hour before me of the Friday. 8 "And Thy will was that I should name them all, one by one, with a suitable name. But Thou gavest me understanding and knowledge, and a pure heart and a right mind from Thee, that I should name them after Thine own mind regarding the naming of them. 9 "O God, Thou madest them obedient to me, and didst order that not one of them break from my sway, according to Thy commandment, and to the dominion which Thou hast given me over them. But now they are all estranged from me. 10 "Then it was in that third hour of Friday, in which Thou didst create me, and didst command me concerning the tree, to which I was neither to draw near, nor to eat thereof; for Thou saidst to me in the garden, 'When thou eatest of it, of death thou shalt die.' 11 "And if Thou hadst punished me as Thou saidst, with death, I should have died that very moment. 12 "Moreover, when Thou commandedst me regarding the tree, I was neither to approach nor to cat thereof, Eve was not with me; Thou hadst not Yet created her, neither hadst Thou yet taken her out of my side; nor had she yet heard this order from Thee. 13 "Then, at the end of the third hour of that Friday, O Lord, Thou didst cause a slumber and a sleep to come over me, and I slept, and was overwhelmed in sleep. 14 "Then Thou didst draw a rib out of my side, and created it after my own similitude and image. Then I awoke; and when I saw her and knew who she was, I said, 'This is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; henceforth she shall be called woman.' 15 "It was of Thy good will, O God, that Thou broughtest a slumber and a sleep over me, and that Thou didst forthwith bring Eve out of my side, until she was out, so that I did not see how she was made; neither could I witness, O my Lord, how awful and great are Thy goodness and glory. 16 "And of Thy goodwill, O Lord, Thou madest us both with bodies of a bright nature, and Thou madest us two, one; and Thou gavest us Thy grace, and didst fill us with praises of the Holy Spirit; that we should be neither hungry nor thirsty, nor know what sorrow is, nor yet faintness of heart; neither suffering, fasting, nor weariness. 17 "But now, O God, since we transgressed Thy commandment and broke Thy law, Thou hast brought us out into a strange land, and has caused suffering, and faintness, hunger and thirst to come upon us. 1S "Now, therefore, O God, we pray Thee, give us something to eat from the garden, to satisfy our hunger with it; and something wherewith to quench our thirst. 19 "For, behold, many days, O God, we have tasted nothing and drunk nothing, and our flesh is dried up, and our p. 25 strength is wasted, and sleep is gone from our eyes from faintness and weeping. 20 "Then, O God, we dare not gather aught of the fruit of trees, from fear of Thee. For when we transgressed at first Thou didst spare us, and didst not make us die. 21 "But now, we thought in our hearts, if we eat of the fruit of trees, without God's order, He will destroy us this time, and will wipe us off from the face of the earth. 22 "And if we drink of this water, without God's order, He will make an end of us, and root us up at once. 23 "Now, therefore, O God, that I am come to this place with Eve, we beg Thou wilt give us of the fruit of the garden, that we may be satisfied with it. 24 "For we desire the fruit that is on the earth, and all else that we lack in it." Next: Chapter XXXV |
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CHAP. XXXIII. Satan falsely promises the "bright light!' BUT Satan, the hater of all good, sought them in the cave, but found them not, although he searched diligently for them. 2 But he found them standing in the water praying and thought within himself, "Adam and Eve are thus standing in that water beseeching God to forgive them their transgression, p. 23 and to restore them to their former estate, and to take them from under my hand. 3 "But I will deceive them so that they shall come out of the water, and not fulfil their vow." 4 Then the hater of all good, went not to Adam, but be went to Eve, and took the form of an angel of God, praising and rejoicing, and said to her-- 5 "Peace be unto thee! Be glad and rejoice! God is favourable unto you, and He sent me to Adam. I have brought him the glad tidings of salvation, and of his being filled with bright light as he was at first. 6 "And Adam, in his joy for his restoration, has sent me to thee, that thou come to me, in order that I crown thee with light like him. 7 "And he said to me, 'Speak unto Eve; if she does not come with thee, tell her of the sign when we were on the top of the mountain; how God sent His angels who took us and brought us to the Cave of Treasures; and laid the gold on the southern side; incense, on the eastern side; and myrrh on the western side.' Now come to him." 8 When Eve heard these words from him, she rejoiced greatly. And thinking that Satan's appearance was real, she came out of the sea. 9 He went before, and she followed him until they came to Adam. Then Satan hid himself from her, and she saw him no more. 10 She then came and stood before Adam, who was standing by the water and rejoicing in God's forgiveness. 11 And as she called to him, he turned round, found her there and wept when he saw her, and smote upon his breast; and from the bitterness of his grief, he sank into the water. 12 But God looked upon him and upon his misery, and upon his being about to breathe his last. And the Word of God came from heaven, raised him out of the water, and said unto him, "Go up the high bank to Eve." And when he came up to Eve he said unto her, "Who said to thee 'come hither'?" 13 Then she told him the discourse of the angel who had appeared unto her and had given her a sign. 14 But Adam grieved, and gave her to know it was Satan. He then took her and they both returned to the cave. 15 These things happened to them the second time they went down to the water, seven days after their coming out of the garden. 16 They fasted in the water thirty-five days; altogether forty-two days since they had left the garden. Next: Chapter XXXIV |
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CHAP. XXXII. Adam and Eve go into the water to pray. AND Adam and Eve remained in the Cave of Treasures until the seventh day; they neither ate of the fruit of the earth, nor drank water. 2 And when it dawned on the eighth day, Adam said to Eve, "O Eve, we prayed God to give us somewhat from the garden, and He sent His angels who brought us what we had desired. 3 "But now, arise, let us go to the sea of water we saw at first, and let us stand in it, praying that God will again be favourable to us and take us back to the garden; or give us something; or that He will give us comfort in some other land than this in which we are." 4 Then Adam and Eve came out of the cave, went and stood on the border of the sea in which they had before thrown themselves, and Adam said to Eve:-- 5 "Come, go down into this place, and come not out of it until the end of thirty days, when I shall come to thee. And pray to God with fervent heart and a sweet voice, to forgive us. 6 "And I will go to another place, and go down into it, and do like thee." 7 Then Eve went down into the water, as Adam had commanded her. Adam also went down into the water; and they stood praying; and besought the Lord to forgive them their offence, and to restore them to their former state. 8 And they stood thus praying, unto the end of the five-and-thirty days. Next: Chapter XXXIII |
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