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Politics / Re: Rufai Oseni's 8 Questions About The Coastal Road Project. by interloper(m): 4:22am On May 05
I certainly agree that road must as a matter of urgency be built.

Many people opposing this project are just trying to be smart by half and are not seeing the big pics.

The benefit of such roads cannot be over emphasised considering it will be traversing 9 states in Nigeria and will also aid in opening her adjoining communities or states for economic growth.

Roads or infrastructure like this is what makes our so called 1st world to be what we know it to be.

The Lagos Calabar coastal road can be liken to the i95 out here in the states .... With a length of 1,924 miles (3,096 km), the I-95 is the longest north–south Interstate and the sixth-longest Interstate Highway overall which cuts across 16 US states.

It remains a fantastic piece of infrastructure that has aided movements of goods and services from the north and south of the US un interrupted for decades now.

FDR (Franklin D. Roosevelt) conceived the interstate highways system and Dwight Eisenhower implemented it when he enacted the 1956 Interstate Highway Act.

Opposition was rampant, cries of communities displaced, inequity etc were the orders of the day.

At its completion, it ushered in the greatest decade in American history (1956-1966)

Sounds familiar?
Politics / Re: Yorubas Are The Most Industrious,Richest & Educated Tribe in Nigeria & Africa by interloper(m): 7:57pm On Aug 07, 2017
hilroy:


I'm supposed to start writing profiles on this list but Nairaland stupid antispam bot banned me for 2 days angry
Thank God today is public holiday where I am, I will touch on some of them today and continue later during the week.


You are most likely in Dublin . . . . .that seems the only country am aware has a public holiday locked down for to day . . . . .Good job for all the info by the way, certainly inspiring and a big thumb to everyone who contributed in no small way to make it a resounding successful awareness and challenged the alternative narrative about Yorubas . . . . . . .

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 6:59pm On Jul 02, 2017
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laudate:

What do you want myndd44 to do? shocked sad

[b]Prolly to yank if off air again and again and again or perhaps ban the living cells off you "Alt Omoluabis' . . . . . . . kikiki.
I hate myself falling in love with this thread looking back in retrospect ! . . . . .my really first serious evergreen contribution on Nairaland that I honestly thought would remain devoid of all "big brother" activities but seems I miscalculated big time and believe me you eh? I detest miscalculating!

In years to come to when we look back on happenings out here, the ignoble role Nairaland is playing in providing a platform for many of today's negative political oddities/vibes would certainly be a centerpiece of our sober reflection and hopefully, it won't be too late I pray.

To be bombarded with all things biafra round the clock out here? from the nonsensical postulation down to the outright ridiculous prognosis and deep-seated tribal hatred evangelism ever ongoing here sure sucks and to think the powers that be out here are so comfy watching all this carry-on and moderating this gravy train of mostly misinformation/propaganda/tribal hatred by yanking of sane threads leaves much to be desired.

The swiftness and military precision all cerebral "Yoruba centric" threads get disposed off out here leave me more "confused than confounded". Honestly I don't mind if the powers that be have a closely guided narrative they intend to continuously push out by giving "a nod and a wink" to one group and bringing out the "whip" for another, all cool by me after all . . . . . . . "man is a political animal" but in the absence of any hidden agenda and more out of "tribal political correctness" for want of a better word than you much touted political wisdom and "sophistication" is certainly a celebration of ignorance yet again cos we all know if the tables were turned out here . . . . . we will hardly be allowed to air our opinions. . . . . . . .#dropmics[/b]

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Family / Re: Black British Girls Most Likely To Self Harm by interloper(m): 4:33am On Aug 18, 2016
Shym3xx:


What's good, bro? I haven't seen you in cyberspace for time since you went ghost on the other forum. Good to see you back.

You'd raise salient points. And I think it has to start with the family structure, especially the mums. Women raise kids and, they're their first point of call in understanding the world. This is the same argument I always make for chics who have all kinds of complaints about sexism and misogyny: if you have a problem with how black men view black women, raise your sons to be the type of black men you want to see. And if all women can adhere to this - the next generation of black men will be better than this one. Thus creating a better cycle. You can't always blame everyone but yourselves for your own failures.

That said: you need to forget about Africa - the ship has sailed. I doubt anything good will come out of that continent in the next four decades. The signs are there and the people aren't enlightened enough for anything to happen in the nearest future. And it seems it's getting worse by day. You judge the progress of a people by their consciousness. However, the consciousness across Africa is so dim right now, that it will take decades for any bright spots to appear.


Big guy am kool like dat! Being a whirlwind of relocation and adjusting to new environments that created my scarcity online all along but thank goodness be heading back to Europe in a few weeks from now and I align back to my defacto life.......... offshore work and life not so adventurous sometimes.

I did make a few cameo appearances on that forum in the last few weeks....... Tagged you I believe but every one seems to have upgraded to some hard-core aboriginal names and I really don't know who is who again but I am walking my way back as time and opportunity permits from hence....... Miss you guys dearly.

I hope some kind of Renaissance or social rebirth comes to play in the black family and communities because we are just not holding things down nicely on many fronts.

We need to start looking at ourselves straight in the eyes and tell ourselves some serious home truths, we have not faired fantastically globally in celebrating and nurturing good family units nurtured with love and care within our societies and I think we all share some blame individually and collectively.

Hurts me as a man when I hear the black woman is the least desirable of all races when it comes to interracial dating, might sound racially chauvinistic or stereotypically but for fact statistics don't lie and sadly this is true.........even the Asians and Indians are rated higher than us! Sadly

Am just using this as one of the many examples that the black girl child might internalize her self worth with, why does she have to struggle to be loved by her fellow black brothers? why does she get labeled as an angry black woman when she conveys her pain and frustration with so much passion? why does she get overlooked despite her brilliance in many human endeavors or being told she doesn't fit into the mainstream culture!

I know the system is pretty tough on us melanin folks but we just have to continue the positive conversation and portrayal of our people and hope in no time the burden of proving ourselves beyond all reasonable doubts will cease and the benefits will cascade to the younger girls/boys, hopefully they can in turn find joy and happiness from within and be better self assured to face the challenges of life without having to deal with all this cobwebs of racism, sexism and color bar.

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Family / Re: Black British Girls Most Likely To Self Harm by interloper(m): 6:35am On Aug 17, 2016
Personally I do worry about the black girl child all over the world especially those in a not so homogenous societies where race, sexism and skin color is always a reminder they are not good enough or will never be the best or just don't measure up enough !

The defacto symbol or race for all things good and "Camelot" thanks to the media and somewhat indirect global narrative has to white skinned and fair!

I have often wondered the quiet "wink and nod" that has always accorded the Lindsey Lohan's of this world without so much of a noisy condemnation of her gaffes but I sincerely doubt if she were black? if at all she will get away with all this misadventures.

In trying to seek a solution to this issue which I pretty much doubt will be a one linear be all end all thingy, I will humbly proffer more time and bonding session should be encourage by adults both male and female within the black communities with the black girl child to help articulate her strenght, intelligence and behavior.

As rightly mentioned by an earlier poster, it's certainly hard for the black men to break the myriad of Employment ceilings, a few get lucky but most don't especially in the western world and it does have a domino effect on the black men. Once economically stifled it's very hard for him to play his role as a father, uncle, son, nephew etc and be there as a man for his wife, daughter, niece etc........a very painful cycle in a very cold world we live in.

I hope to God soon rather than later, Africa countries economies will be high up in the pyramid on many fronts then we can begin to create opportunities not in the West but in Africa rather for all the black melanin skinned people who in their heart of hearts are tired bottling up this racism and discrimination over the years within!

Bottling all this up can make any fragile heart go mental especially a young heart.......we are only human afterall. So what ever good we can do within our immediate community? we should do, whatever word of encouragement we can share? pls share, whatever mentorship we can provide? let's keep it up, whatever role model we can exemplify? pls embolden yourself more and may the good Lord help to bring the best out of our race or black melanin skinned people as a whole.

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 7:29pm On Nov 27, 2015
shymm8x:


Yes, I just deactivated the new one cos that little phaggot kid, mynd, banned that one as well. He's inconsequential and if I were go to war, that would be between the owner and I. The little phaggot is some kid that won't even dare look straight into my eyes in person. I just quickly left the forum for CIF for some banter - I'm back now.

Anyway, I think I understand what these folks are trying to do. So we need to stop talking about them and continue from where we stopped. They can't kill our spirit - Yorubaland and the legacies of our Yoruba ancestors can never be derailed. Yoruba ancestors never lost any wars, apart from the duels Oyo at its infant stage had with the Nupes in Katanga (the rest were internecine wars). After that, we were victorious in all battles, all the way to present day Ghana - and that's the spirit we need going forward.

Snakes and jakes have always been part of black history and, they're the reason why the black race is messed up today. The enemies within. During slavery they had the house kneegrows who messed things up. When the time for colonisation came - the black colonial soldiers with fez hats were the ones who helped the white man in conquering Africa and enforcing colonisation. Then they moved from there to helping the white man in committing genocide and all kinds of atrocities against their brothers and sisters. And today we've coons, Uncle Toms, and Aunt Tomasinas - the jiggaboos and coconuts doing the same thing. Also, when you look at how disunited Yoruba folks are today - you'll see the enemies within in action.

So we can't give in to them - let's continue against all odds.

AGAINST ALL ODDS - Tupac, can you hear me? grin grin

Are you still down, aareonakakanfo? - I'm going to get the thread back rolling by replying the posts from yesterday. Then we can move forward from there.


Way to go bro!!!
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 6:36pm On Nov 27, 2015
IFELEKE:

Evil thrive when good people keep quiet and look the other way...
If you and others of like mind leave then ''they'' triumph.
Okun O!

Lets all just take a breather . . . . . .if we wanna stay off the thread for a few days to chillax catch back our mojo! all well and good but leaving guys is not an option here, you guys have fought tribals wars and repeatedly won and your records in those regards are legendary. . . . .

I certainly understand all your angers and resentments regarding Seun's latest misadventure but at the same time lets not give those nay sayers ammunition to say they literally indirectly killed the "The Yoruba people's thread" . . . it's okay to be upset but not okay to leave the fight/thread just now, it might interest you to know this thread has undeniably brought many core ghost guest out of the woods and given them lots of reason to bare their mind on many burning national and regional matters, ideally they wouldn't have bothered in the hey days of tribal wars.

And again this thread is acting as a reference point to our yoruba brothers and sisters all over the world desiring to see what a real time online conversation/information/discuss about our strength, struggles, joys and victories of all things Yoruba, if you ask me? information out here and sentiments shared herein far out weights anything you read in text book and above all we are leaving good resources and digital footprints online for all to see especially for our 21st century yoruba in the diaspora in particular.

So lets exercise restraint and this too will certainly pass . . . .

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 5:43pm On Nov 27, 2015
modath2:



No regret begging, I like this thread, don't want it to die cos i felt the cajoling (after baring my mind will do what hard stance would not, i even mailed the mods. cheesy)but have a feeling things are never going to be the same again, feelings & emotions have been bruised...

When the off NL resource is created , Let me know... Minus this thread , i don't have business here, E war isn't my thing...

Cc, interloper, CabbieAC, Mayoroflagos, Shymm3x, zimoni, belmont,9jacrip, iyaiode et al.... #ghostmode activated..

I’ll rather we just be mindful of this kill joy folks, they come in different shapes and colours, some come as site owner garment, some as moderators, some as fifth columnist and of cos our arch rivals the Romanis for want of better word to use pls, but that term as coined and what it means is so so so funny.

Lets just continue to join hands and continue this Yoruba Renaissance which unknowingly has since commenced, to think we have done 334 pages since October 22 speaks volume of how much love we have for our region then Nigeria, all this has since being achieved devoid of mudslingings and in fighting certainly brings to life the spiritual/traditional/cultural concept of being a true Omoluabi, which truly we are.

So like i will admonish here again, lets continue to snob and jealously protect the sanctity of our thread and this is our own way of cleaning up Nairaland servers and populate same with sane opinion/discuss and above all act as a template for idea generation on all things Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics . . . . . . .beats my imaginations why that heading ain’t beautiful enough eh . . . . .smh

So please lets just hang in there and we will as usual continue to show to the world how things should and is being be done properly especially in Nigerian Online Political Cyberspace Discuss. . . .truth be told we are not wired to be silent so we might as well show em whats stuffs we are made up of and continue to march forward regardless of what darts they throw at us, folks will be banned from time to time to bully us into submission, wolves will creep in to derail thread and a lot of behind the scene orchestration will be mounted to curtail us from marching forward but we should be able to rise above all traps/hiccups and still keep the show on the road still . . . . .

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 4:22am On Nov 24, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:



Haba! ko le to yen.Speaking of Kabiyesi,he's really going through tough times.

WELCOME TO NIGERIA:The country where everything is just for the moment.When the time comes,you'll be dumped and forgotten




[size=14pt]"I am the poorest paid actor" Dejumo Lewis cries out[/size]

Veteran Nigerian movie star, Dejumo Lewis, popularly known for his role as Kabiyesi in the classic NTA TV series ‘The Village Headmaster’ has opened up on how poor he is.
In an interview with Punch, the 72 year old actor cried out that he has never been financially stable despite his legendary status.
“I must admit that I have not been rich. I am the poorest paid actor even though people call me a legend or an icon. My pensions were not paid at a time even though it is stipend. You would be shocked how much I receive as pension. ‘I had to struggle to pay my rent and my staff. I must admit that right now, I am indebted to the management of the hotel that I am staying. I also owe two of my staff more than three months salary. They have been so loyal and committed to me” said the thespian.
“I must tell you that I have been living on charity and that is why I have not been able to publish my book or run my publishing company. It has been very rough and tough but because of my focus on what I am doing which would be of great benefit to Nigeria, I have been coping until things become better. I must admit that I am broke” lamented the TV star.

Dejumo Lewis’ story is one of many movie veterans in the Nigerian film sector who are not financially well-off.


Do you think the Government should be the one helping out these legends or their Nollywood colleagues?

Neither of the two if I really wanna play the Devils advocate and here's my reasons.

If the Nigerian state worked half as much as she should many social problems that hammers folks down will actually not be a problem per se.

Like if the hospital worked fine to a certain degree, am sure many sicknesses will be tackled at the onset and not at the advance stage and as such this actors would not be soliciting for funds in the first instance publicly.

The Nigerian acting sphere is not well runned and a true/discerning person or actor should know when to leg it even best when the ovation his highest and law of diminishing returns yet to set in. They can leverage on whatever fame or money or connection they have earned and diversify as in run run run from 100% acting as source of income.

In the real sense of things actors or actresses were not readily paid good money especially circa Dejumo Lewis era unlike what is obtainable now, even now its still not El Dorado for many.

But again would it be fair to morally ask the present crop of actors to shoulder the welfare of their older members? When it's not like a well organise country where the young working class are taxed more to look after the older retired folks in the country.

Mind you the Nollywood industry is more like a capitalist venture, bar a few folks who are in it for the love of acting, but a large percentage are in for the fame, money and to use as a spring board for another profession.

So really how do u rally this guy's to crowd fund everytime a member is down on his luck. What criteria would be put in place to disburse this funds? Tribalism as ever will come up for sure, the ibos guys will definitely not be excited to be seen contributing to tidy up a Yoruba actor or actresses and Yorubas too will not b too enthusiatic doing same.

For me there is no magic wand except folks don't stay too long on this career, they should branch out at the earliest opportunity or combine acting with another source of income n live within their means.

To think government will interven at every twist and turn If they have members down on his luck is wishful thinking. Same to expect present Nollywood actors to readily assist will b a miracle else every man should look after his career v well cos am sure they will say they are not an insurance organization promising to be there for every sick member.

Occasional crowd funding fine but government/Nollywood actors as constituued presently will not buy into this when most are living fake life themselves.
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 3:30am On Nov 24, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:
Interloper I'm still expecting your reply to the question I asked yesterday

Check your mentions

Please bear with me I will definitely reply you asap....... My hands pretty tied down today why am trying to at least mark register by chipping in some coments now....
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 2:54am On Nov 24, 2015
superstar1:


It is really not a great news because it will end up being a tool for mind conditioning and further programming of the minds of the blacks, in a form of pseudo-colonialisation.


The pros are that it will keep propagating the language, promoting our rich culture and heritage our forefathers handed down to us. It will alos give us an international pedestal to tell our story in our own way.

If I may throw in my opinion on this, the second part of your writup sums most of all the inherent benefits that will accrue to the Yorubas if this idea becomes a reality
which really is all there is to this idea by BBC ......positives positives positives!!!

To as much as attempt the former! That will be a waste of their time, everybody's time for that matter and waste of their resources too cos it's just not gonna fly.

Might work if it was radio biafra and Kanu, the infamous Radio Director were at the helms of affairs to capture all their warmongering imaginations that will be fine! but for us? No way Hosay!

The fact that a Global Yoruba audience can be reached via this platform a big plus! Our Yoruba speaking brothers and sisters in west Africa, the carribeans and South America will also provide content I would assume.

Also bare in mind language is always a veritable tool to keep refreshing any one culture or people thereby aiding in many ways to foster unity amongst the many many Yoruba speaking folks which we have all over the world.

Furthermore it will also provide an international platform for our budding artist, poets, radio presenters, musicians, language experts and many other allied cultural industry sectors/players to showcase themselves to a Global audience.

This will indirectly help to awaken our own Yoruba Renaissance and providing employment for our people both locally/internationally. Afterall we (Yorubas) will be the ones providing the radio contents from news, music, current affairs etc

I too excitedly and bodily cosign this idea like wetin dey shele!

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 1:38am On Nov 24, 2015
Katsumoto:
Is it necessary for a Yoruba son to be governor in a state where Yorubas are a minority? Otherwise they risk being accused of what they accuse others of doing. If Faleke is wanted by a majority, then all well and good but sneaking in through a technicality will create problems for him and the Yoruba.

I really don't get why Nigerian people always want someone from their ethnic group to be governor/president.

The truth of the matter is our society or democracy has not evolved to folks over looking ethnic colouration of candidates and to not acknowledge that in itself is playing to the gallery.

To juxtapose the clamour of Yorubas in Kogi State to the Ibos wanting presidency at all cost might just be stretching it too much and not being fair on them.

Once we agree they aren't migrant in Kogi State as they are actually domiciled too on their ancestral home then a good point for starters .......... For the sake of fair play, fair representation and the common good of that state.

The governorship and other sensitive posts in States like that should be rotated but with a (CAVEAT) that the best from her constituents parts be brought to bear at all times and they'll be just okay.

I would want to believe something akin to rotating this post is evident in our federal government, if GEJ did not renegade on his word after completing Yaradua tenure am sure the Ibos would have had a better moral ground to take up the mantle after a northerner had completed Yaradua's cycle.

But a case of penny wise pound foolish is what they displayed for all to see........ Now that miscalculation as sent them down the perking order and this latest clamour for biafra of late?! Another blow to their chances.
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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 4:42am On Nov 23, 2015
Aareonakakanfo:


Is it the same Dejumo Lewis who played the Kabiyesi role in Village headmaster?

Yes Boss . . .had Councillor Balogun whilst penning that portion of the write up but most have erroneously penned Oloja to the RIP portion . . . .Apologies y'all
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 4:39am On Nov 23, 2015
birdman:


memories! this gave me chills. I wonder if Corona still exists today. As for dropping the ball, I seem to remember about the time SAP really started to kick in, a lot of these things just died off, slowly at first. There was no internet back then(many phones were still rotary even), so for the Nigerian on the street, we just knew quality of everything was degrading but there was no one who could put a definite finger on it.

NB: POINT OF CORRECTION DEJUMO LEWIS (KABIYESI, OLOJA OF OJA) STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE AND STILL ACTING
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 4:36am On Nov 23, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Nice writeup!


NB: POINT OF CORRECTION DEJUMO LEWIS (KABIYESI, OLOJA OF OJA) STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE AND STILL ACTING
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 2:51am On Nov 23, 2015
about 10pm Nigerian time
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 12:49am On Nov 23, 2015
superstar1:


There was a time a thread was ran on da rocha. I will look for it.


I will be most interested if you can dig out the said thread about Da Rocha's . . . I will certainly would want to refresh my memory about them all and Da Silver too.

My siblings and I went to ADRA0 International School back then, I still have fond memories of Ms. Abimbola Da Rocha Omololu, Ms Ajisafe and Ms. Smith . . . .they certainly helped in molding us in those formative years back in VI, bet they are all late now cos at that time they were nearly senior citizens and for me? i will mark them down as arguable the best educationist/teachers of that era and also the crews at Corona School.

I recall a school day when the Bar beach overflowed her banks, ADRAO back school premises is/was facing the Atlantic Ocean and it so happened the ocean over flowed her banks. The fear/distress we all went thru was better imagined than experienced . . . .the whole school grounds and lower classrooms blocks was covered with ocean water and also down to the main road/adjoining streets . . . . .that incident killed my swimming appetite till today . . . . I really thought the whole school was going to go under and we were all gonna drown but thank goodness! the Lord spared us all.

FAN Milk Nigeria came calling not too long afterwards with hot jammed doughnuts/milk, we were all given hugs and reassured it was never going to happen again meanwhile the whole of Ahmadu Bello Way and beyond was experiencing serious traffic gridlock due to panicky parents rushing down to pick there kids. Apparently word on the streets of Lagos was that, the school had gone under and was swept into the Atlantic Ocean by strong currents and taken the we the school kids along <grin.png>.

It might interest you to know ADRAO International School was/is (till today) still sandwiched between NTA and the Nigeria Minting Corporation (donkey years have being out there), those were really exciting times in Nigeria (NTA boarded us to the right and the Mint was to the right) Being neighbours with this organisation had is own perks then, we had unfettred access to all the stars on the set of Village Headmasters when they came in for filming, Uncle Dejumo Lewis (Oloja of Oja) was a big hit among we the kids, we could mime his signature laughter all day long hehehehehehe . . . . . and he always had a smile and kind words for us all.

I also remember Uncle Funsho Adeolu (Eleyinmi), Justice Esiri, Sisi Clara, Amebo and co, they were v courteous, professional, fatherly/motherly and approachable any time. . . . .those were indeed a beautiful time in Nigeria if you ask me! . . . . . I still don't know how we dropped the ball.Anyway how could I forget the cast of Adio's Family, Second Chance and the rest of them . . . . .everybody most come to NTA then, the hydre headed broadcasting station of that period so even if you were doing Cock Crow At Dawn in Jos, at some stage you would had to come to the HQ in Lagos.

Then onto our lovely neighbour to the right, the Mint! it was not unusual picking up partially burnt Nigerian currencies on the school ground, the old currencies were literally burnt on site and once the chimney emits her content into the sky, thanks to strong ocean winds u can be sure to come across burnt currencies within the school presmises, the fun in this was as kids, we endeavoured to look for more partially burnt currencies during recess and try gumming them together like a puzzle map and perhaps get to spend it afterwords (yes we wish) . . . . naive kids we were as no one I recall was able to achieve this feat like you would expect . . . . sighs

Then you have Federal Palace Hotel down the road, it was an architectural master piece at that time and any excuse to pop in there was a real delight. I also recall the Ali Must Go student riot . . . .first time I saw and understood what riot was, it was one "L" of a bloody day in Lagos and again when Fela's mum was killed by "unknown soldier” omg!, Lagos was not child friendly on those days . . . .

Despite the many challenges Nigeria had then, we were certainly on the path of economic prosperity even at that stage but some thing went so wrong along the way and we lost it big time, I hope to God we can find our way back as a nation sooner than latter . . . . . .

Lagos Island was indeed the place to be and all her rich history will forever linger on in my memory . . . . .the Brazilian returnees really did influence many stuffs on the Island and Da Rocha family will go down in history as one of the great driver of education/ wealth of that era too.

P.S . . . ADRAO International School actually started right under the Jibowu Bridge on the Ikorodu road, they had to relocate to the Island when the bridge was being constructed, and each time i drive past Jibowu years afterwards . . . .a lot of changes has certainly taken place in good o’l Eko Akete . . . .

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 7:13pm On Nov 22, 2015
Shymm3x:


Interesting observation.

But I don't think it will ever be as profound as Nigeria's. And even that can be negated under a well defined provincial structure, with true fiscal federalism. We can use the Canadian, German, or Chinese model - those three models are fantastic.

The most important thing is the common language, culture, tradition, heritage, and people. The aftermath of Kiriji wars gave us a unique language and one identity under the Yoruba umbrell[/b]a - similar to the ethnic English who were all splinter Germanic groups but never had a common language and identity till the English language and identity were formulated/created. That's the common goal we need - something Nigeria will always lack.

I totally share you sentiment especially on the bolded portion of you write up . . . . I want to believe the average 21st century yoruba man/woman under a regional system of government would not be stuck up on say am Ijebu or Ijesha or am Awori and all those fault lines that kinda marred our last regional voyage
. . . . the present day Yoruba man\woman i believe has gone past such, having experienced serious inward integration even within the region via religious tolerance, education, work or intermarriages and above all friendship within the different subsets of our ethnic configuration.

A good modern day example would be the present APC gladiators, by and large they have being able to maintain a very private/public cordial relationship/brotherhood bar those recalcitrant duo in Ondo/Ekiti but even at that, no one is going to town screaming the Aworis or Epes are lording it over the rest of the clan.

Mind you thru out history, countries that speak one united language tend to do superbly well cos of their shared heritage, culture and what have you. The present day Nigeria as constituted reminds me of when the children of men were building the Tower of Babel, as long as they spoke one language they were gonna go on and build the first ta Burj Khalifa (tallest building) but as soon as they were afflicted with the plague of multi language . . . . . things went haywire.

In as much as there are different dialects or derivatives of the Yoruba language am nearly sure if we go the regional way, we will be just fine. Fair enough we will experience some teething probs initially but our shared culture, exposure, language and brotherhood will work for us, after all said we are all in it to make our society/region a much better and prosperous one.
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 4:59pm On Nov 22, 2015
OnReflection:


Yes, I read about that particular fissure. You may recall that I did say, the Nupes are a rather ambitious lot.
It is one thing to dispute a historical account that locates Oshodi-Tapa as a slave but quite another to ascribe to imperial leanings, in the absence of veritable proof.

Thankfully though, despite what is widely seen as an attempt to whitewash the past, they have made no attempt to declare Lagos "no man's land".

Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 4:51pm On Nov 22, 2015
OnReflection:


Yes, I read about that particular fissure. You may recall that I did say, the Nupes are a rather ambitious lot.
It is one thing to dispute a historical account that locates Oshodi-Tapa as a slave but quite another to ascribe to imperial leanings, in the absence of veritable proof.

Thankfully though, despite what is widely seen as an attempt to whitewash the past, they have made no attempt to declare Lagos "no man's land".


Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 4:40pm On Nov 22, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Who was the author?

For the love of God i cannot recall author's name! sad i missed out in my dad bequeathing me is library grin. . . . but the book was touted as the best authentic narration of the History of Lagos and many true Lagos indigene with strong family links used that book as a de facto mouth piece of what lagos was . . . .highly researched and eloquently written piece with pictures and all the worth nots . . . . . . .

I hope to make further enquiries with my siblings sef in that regard . . . .that book gats to be somewhere someplace, did search online a few times if i could just lay hands on her but the ones i came across by other authors? i wasn't feeling it much . . . . .the depth wasn't just there
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 9:33am On Nov 22, 2015
MayorofLagos:


I didnt live in his time but if i did i would have joined in his resistance army to fight Beecroft assault and invasion. He was feared and even though he repeatedly violated the accord of ceasefire and attacked Lagos many times from exile the ego and bragging rights of the British Navy was deeply dented on account.of their losses in battleships and sailors, as well as decorated officers when they bombarded Lagos in 1851.
There were accounts also of portuguese traders who had sailed from Lagos with human cargoes to Brazil and suffered loss and ended up indebted to Kosoko. They were so scared of returning without his full money that they got injunction from the courts for protection against his anger. John Beecroft, who had served as the Queen's Consul in foreign lands and used to being received with respect and parade, was taken aback at the reception he received from Oba of Lagos.

There is lots in his history. Yoruba kings of that time had white slaves...they did not see white man as a superior race. I dont know that this Oba kept white slaves or not but as bad as the Ijebus were and completely protective of their waters and access rights i would not be surprised the Awujale kept some white slaves. British navy had more resistance and headache with the Ijebus than they did with anyone else. I know Egbas threw criminals in prison, white or black, they could care less.

If those were the leaders we have today, minus slavery, wed be in good hands.

Many thanks again for taking me down memory lane .....we had a book bk home then in the 80's with authentic timelines and stories about Lagos and her Monarchy ...........if am not mistaken the book was called "The History of Lagos circa 1870 to circa 1980".

For the love of God i just don't know what became of that book unfortunately cos i would really love to lay hands on her again..... .......
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 8:48am On Nov 22, 2015
MayorofLagos:


Kabiyesi, you sure say i no know you??

First of all, Lagos Island is very small and it doesnt matter how over populated it is, the ancestral homes will still be there. They might rebuild but it is there. I dont think there is any family in Island....indigenes....that I dont know their compound or Iga. From Ebute Alagbafo to Ebute Elefun, from Lafiaji to Campos, from Olowogbowo back to Ebute Alagbafo....thats the entire perimeter!

Mention any hood anywhere inbetween and Ive covered it and know the families.

This is why Ibo should fear me because when my Mayorship is vestitured Ibo will be in trouble. I will deport them completely out of Nigeria...to Congo!

Can you pls gimme the narrative for Oba Kosoko of Lagos from your own perspective although his reign was short lived . . . . .he so happens to me my great great grand father but one of his several sons ( my great grand father) left the island to settle somewhere under present day Alimosho local government (will tell which village another time lol)but he ended up being an Awori man full time and by extension i am one as well . . . . he never returned to the island till he passed on . . . . . . . .

Thats why when they chant lagos is no man's land i celebrate their ignorance because of the rapid development Lagos endured having lost that "rural aura" but funny enough, this same crowd are quick to chant they are from London or New York or Houston forgetting that all this places evolved to become a full fledge cosmopolitan city over a very long period of time today but never consider same as no man's land . . .

Despite the many economic contribution the Irish have showered into Boston, Massachusetts you never hear em chanting no man's land ditto even the indians or the west indies/Caribbean's in London or even the Latinos in florida . . . . .me i tire for some people sense of reasoning though
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 7:35am On Nov 22, 2015
IlekeHD:


Please don't fall for his biscuit and epka behavior. There's nothing pan/pot Africa about it.

Honestly it's not a compliment but rather a polite way of saying the guy is multifaceted, of questionable roots and that a big question mark is ever hanging on his person like the sword of Damocles . . . .

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 7:27am On Nov 22, 2015
aljharem:


Emi omo abo.ki. LOL Omo yoruba tokan tokan ni mi

Ki lo de ti o fi pe mi ni abo.ki

Omo Eko gidi ni mi

With all due respect Sir have never being able to figure you out all this while, if i were to give or have an opinion on your good self . . . i still cannot figure out where u are from although not a perequisite though but your roots is ever so vague, a times you are so yoruba and other times you are so hausa and a times so naija delta and God knows many other roots you identify yourself with. . . . .classic by the way

But i certainly give you your full respect having a pan nigeria identity and an innate ability to be any tribe or person out here to be honest is so so so legendary/fascinating but my consolation is you are a Nigerian which is just coolies by me . . . one love bro.
grin

Hopefully we see more of you yorubaness out here with time . . . . . i doubt many folks that know u more will agree to this gesture of mine . . . .
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 7:18am On Nov 22, 2015
IlekeHD:


Plz go and waste someone else's time. ab.ok.i

OMG . . .am dead grin you certainly take no prisoner at all sister . . . . .

You see why i had to come off ghost mode . . . .u all never stop to crack me up and i just had to get in on these groovy train . . .hahaha
Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 6:28am On Nov 22, 2015
CabbieAC:



Someone once told me about the emboldened as well

To them it's a battle.!dd!iots

I remember like 14 of them at the same time against megrin cheesy.

They were just switching monikers like fools

Anyways I did my job as usual.That's necessary grin cheesy

Awon eranko

Lemme share some fun with you guys if you really wanna see these guys in all their glory . . . . have a few laptops i use out here and mobile phones (s) . . . .i log into nairaland especially when these tribal wars begins, you will see em all reporting or logging into threads like soldier ants trying to derail and fight dirty obviously the whatsapp message is out for the troop to rally forth, that is when u just see some folks jumping into thread abusing all the way without even knowing what is happening as long as it's a tribal thread/war . . . . na party time to fight dirty anyhow and the clarion call most be obeyed.

You see a moniker that come online spends like 5 minutes and abuse everything dead and alive with so much venom and 5 minutes late his out of the thread wtf!!!. . . . .he has done his own quoter be that or possibly busy and as such cannot stay too long at that particular time . . . . and u just observe all manner of pattern every other time.

You can literally see em jumping from page to page like mobs/marauders ready to fight and wade off imperialist yoruba (for want of a better word to use hahaha) and u cannot but laugh at all this back and forth characters jumping from tread to tread, logging in and logging out in frenzy . . . . . honestly life as a ghost member of nairaland is fun on his own, ima be sitting down and watching it all like chilling right in front of a game console and u can see all the digital foot prints they leave from thread to thread like a pack of wolves . . . . .hahaha

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Politics / Re: Yoruba Commonwealth and Politics by interloper(m): 5:48am On Nov 22, 2015
Pay these intruders no attention pls . . . . .all they can do is type a few thrash in the hope we will reply and loose focus but trust me, in my many many many years of being a ghost guest on nairaland have under studied them like phd thesis. . . . . . . . . lol

Give him a ounce of attention his just gonna call his fellow travellers to come run riot on the thread, we should not encourage or nurture or give them that much needed attention they so much crave for like a junkie . . . . . . . .left to me i see them not or hear them not, am like so so so zoned off to all their idiosyncrasies! grin

You can be rest assured they have a whatsapp group where they strategies and mobilise themselves to come run riot like mobs on our treads every so often hahaha and the normal weekend meeting where they are re orientated to continue go out and wage drama to non easterners online and offline . . . . .very funny guys, ever so readable and notoriously emotional and with all her attendant tantrums/whining and victim mentality always played at full throttle . . . .

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