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The roman catholic do believe Mary is the mother of God, i also think they might have changed that their theology |
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Frosbel is clueless. |
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Frosbel you still dont grasp the point. Benalvino is simply saying the word bible is not in the bible but it is used to describe the collection of scriptures into one book like you said! So same thing applies to trinity which is use to describe the divinity of father son and holy spirit. The Egyptians have their scriptures about their sun god and afterlife teaching and guess what they call them Biblia. So the question is if genocide can be used to explain mass murder in bible and genocide is not in the bible does it make the concept FALSE teaching? |
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"Jehovah" cannot be the name of God since neither Hebrew, Greek, Latin don't even have a letter "J" and English did not have the letter J before about 1500 AD? The name Jesus, John, Joanna, Jew all started in the Greek with the letter "I", not J. As the introduction to the New American Standard confirms, the proper way of spelling YHWH in the English language would be Yahweh, not Jehovah. Dr. George Howard, who is quoted as proof that Matthew was written in Hebrew also said the proper pronunciation of YHWH was "YaHWeH" and that this is the accepted one by the vast majority of scholars. Jehovah was popularized by a catholic monk who lived in the 12th century AD. In fact "Jehovah" was never used before this! The form "Jehovah" results from reading the consonants of the Tetragrammaton with the vowels of the surrogate word Adonai. The dissemination of this form is usually traced to Petrus Galatinus, confessor to Pope Leo X, who in 1518 a.d. transliterated the four Hebrew letters with the Latin letters jhvh together with the vowels of Adonai, producing the artificial form "Jehovah." (This confused usage may, however, have begun as early as 1100 a.d.; note KB, 369). While the hybrid form Jehovah has met much resistance, and is universally regarded as an ungrammatical aberration, it nonetheless passed from Latin into English and other European languages and has been hallowed by usage in hymns and the ASV; it is used only a few times in KJV and not at all in RSV. (Anchor Bible Dictionary, YAHWEH) Take a look at the obvious error of spelling it Jehovah as Jehovah's Witnesses demand it. We will not quibble with the three vowel guesses, but two of the four consonants are wrong! What a silly blind organization the Watchtower is. [img][/img]
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That is the work of the JWs always trying to be different. Nice post non the less |
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^^ When people close theirs eyes when they see facts so they can remain in Lies. |
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ijawkid: except Paul did not claim following him alone will give you salvation. we know there is peter and other apostles. I understand everything I quote and your Paul statement is totally different... he wants to lead people as a leader he didn't say. I don't see why any one will say put your faith in me for salvation because I put my faith in Jesus it doesn't make sense. I can say follow my lead or teaching... but the bible said its Jesus. in their teaching on only they will survive they say put your faith in us mare men... did Paul ask people to put their faith in them for salvation? |
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you cant argue with what I said. you still haven't addressed my previous post I wont talk about the un-righteous one because I never claimed so. what I said earlier is on your publication. now they take out Jesus as the mediator and put the organization in his place survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovahs universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?" where is Jesus in that statement? are you going to cater some excuse again? can you see the clear blasphemy? I don't know how you will get around this. Jesus clearly states come to me have faith in me now watchtower said you salvation depends on your faith in their organization. "But Jehovah's servants already belong to the only organization that will survive the end of this wicked system of things." Watchtower 2007 Dec 15 p.14 "But if we were to draw away from Jehovah's organization, there would be no place else to go for salvation and true joy." Watchtower 1993 Sep 15 p.22 "They must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovahs organization is essential to their salvation." Kingdom Ministry 1990 Nov p.1 all the quotes no one states Jesus is essential for salvation. all they do was insert the organization and relegate Jesus |
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ijawkid: Yes they say only them preach house to house and I quote "Do you know of anyone else who preaches about God's Kingdom from house to house throughout the world?" Does God Care? (2001) p.30 this statement can you tell me what it means? notice the word else there. Yes they teach only them will be saved and I quote "During the final period of the ancient world that perished in the Flood, Noah was a faithful preacher of righteousness. (2 Peter 2:5) In these last days of the present system of things, Jehovahs people are making known Gods righteous standards and are declaring good news about the possibility of surviving into the new world. (2 Peter 3:9-13) Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovahs universal organization." Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 "Are You Prepared for Survival?" How about when you preach the resurrection of both righteous an unrighteous that is not the koko here the koko is the destruction of non witness or only witness will survive. my quote above is a proof. I don't even what to go into child molestation because it is the worst. if you really want someone to repent why cover up for him for the benefit of the image of the watchtower. did you know how the Governing body view elders who are found to be a molester? maybe I should make another post about that and give you news coverage of the whole situation. |
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TRUCKMAN: @ itsfcats I have already talked about cases like to talk about being persecuted for things like the page you ask me to check it helps them win hearts and mind. I would have love them to put the amount of JW who are committing suicide every year as a result of their policies. The Palestinians use human shield to attack when they receive response they will cry that Israel is killing children but their main agenda is win hearts and mind. they Got the excessive tax I know the French government na thief but they did not talk about the child abuse case they lost in which the have to pay millions to the victim. that is my point. like I said earlier they can rejoice but in that case there was no sympathy for the people who lost their lives. if you read my origin post attentively you will understand what I mean. maybe the title of the thread may be hard but that is what it is. |
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howlongthislife: how am I lying go and join police as witness and see what will happen? just because you did not mention police doesn't not mean am saying lies. your stands on police government and military is what I just presented. the police doesn't go to war doesn't mean JW accept them. Please go look at your magazine on that issue. did Christ ever use nairaland? so we should not do that. Men who said playing chess is prohibited and they will can remove someone who plays a game like that. did Jesus ever ban anyone not to paint a church or fix a light bulb in a church? if that is my profession why will those men stop me? hence that is dictating!! stop calling me liar about the police issue that is a fact they cant even vote not to talk about joining police. Can you give me an example of any JW who went and join the police? if the JW will let me marry someone who is not a JW then I will know they let someone have a free will. they are not the only Group who do that dis-fellowship thing and I don't think that is right also. Shunning of love ones, brothers and sisters and even cause marriage to break apart same JW who says only of adultery bases should marriage be split are ok if a man or woman divorce because of one is dis-fellowshipped. am not a kid and am not talking out of ignorance. revelation says he will come with his army in Armageddon battle you people always teach about Armageddon you should know that. you can say nonsense all you want. Fact or koko is when someone steal your thing or kidnap you the first number or place you go to is police. it is not imagination ni. its fact ni!! Without law no one will survive even as there was law in heaven satan and other angels disobey it. So that is another fact. you never provided any reasonable argument all you do is call me liar and non sense without any argument why my words are non sense and the only thing you can do is run like you did in the end because you cant counter what is facts. |
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howlongthislife: @topic. you did not answer any of my question. and Yes she didn't survive the crash she wasn't at the scene she is not a survivor. She should thank God I didn't say she shouldn't. my case is no sympathy for those who lost their lives and yes the facebook opinion is a result of the news and her testimony for them to call their brother apostate cause he should sympathy is enough proof. like I said a better article for the year book would have be I was inside the bus and Jahovah saved my life based on the bus accident in US that 2 JW died. they should have put that one and let the survivors inside the bus speaks and not a girl that wasn't a survivor. she was not in the plane not close to the scene how can she be a survivor? People who didn't go to work the day world trade center was hit are they considered survivors? Refusal to participate in military service, even in alternative civilian service, is a Watchtower Society "tradition of men" (Mk 7:8 NWT), not a Biblical teaching. Apart from the many times in the Old Testament where the Israelites were not only commanded to fight military wars, they were told by Jehovah that he was fighting through them (e.g. Dt 1:30; Josh 10:14,42; 23:3,10; 1Sam 15:18, etc); in the New Testament when Roman soldiers asked John the Baptist "What shall we also do?" he did not say, "do not participate in military service" but rather told them, "Do not harass anybody or accuse anybody falsely, but be satisfied with YOUR provisions" (Lk 3:14 NWT). And then there was "Cornelius, an army officer ... a devout man and one fearing God together with all his household ... and made supplication to God continually" (Acts 10:1-3 NWT); who was visited by an angel who said to him, "Your prayers and gifts of mercy have ascended as a remembrance before God" (Acts 10:4 NWT). Later the Apostle Peter met Cornelius and described him as a "man that fears him [God] and works righteousness" (Acts 10:34-35 NWT). Not a word from either the angel or Peter that Cornelius should refuse to participate in military service! are you saying john the Baptist gave them wrong advice? why peter describe a military man as God fearing man? yes satan wants to destroy he has huge influence in the world today... but that doesn't mean if I am a Governor or president I am owned by him. same things government do normal civilians do too. in fact they do it before they become governor. or are you saying the devil is using police and military to protect Gods people? why him no just command the government to slaughter all Christians immediately over centuries upon centuries? |
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howlongthislife: talking about military and war. this is what I am talking about. now you came and add police to the term. please note that people are not dictated by wordly men. JW have rules, they cant join police if you join they will remove you. you are not allowed to enter another church if you do they will remove you. you are not even allowed to paint a church if you do they will remove you. other church teach the word of God hoping it will change you. they are not forcing you on how to leave your life someone cannot be force to change else he will be pretentious of which you know many JW who come to preach are weed smokers and fornicators. some one I know that sleeps with girls anyhow in uniben goes for preaching. do you know Jesus have army? why Does he have army? is there a ruler in heaven? why does heaven have a ruler? if God BABA GOD is ruling and angels in heaven still break the law! how will it be on earth if there is no ruler? no police to enforce the law? same law that protects you. do you think JW will exist if law doesn't exist right before Jesus was born? does a nation have a right to protect it self? Can you tell me why they go to the police when they have problem? |
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ugbo: Ijawkid and itsfact. I want to make a bold claim. Both of you have had something to do with JW. The terms being employed and they way they are used, are JW speak. itsfacts you were a former JW. I give you a thousand pluses for this you contribution because I am trying to let him know they are indirectly sending a message and also point out the evidence as per the facebook comments. and I was never a JW. I just try to make them understand that in as much as they have something to say about other religion they too have their own fair share of cons. |
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ijawkid: itsfact....it is your own opinion if you feel witnesses use there live experiences totrick people into being JW's...that is your opinion.....but what you should avoid is saying it is a fact....the year book experiences like i told you is mainly for fellow witnesses to upbuild them and not a tool for decieving people outside the organization...if relatives of the victim say that it was Jehovahs hand that indeed saved the victim in question how does that now amount to a trick by the JW's..infact experiences like this brings glory to GOD....and if we consider the facts it is true that his attending meetings was what saved him..wether we like it or not its just the truth...this experience is not even a means to tell people that when u attend meetings then all your problems are gone and that you would never get involved in tragedy...NO....it only butresses d fact that we should not forsake d gathering of ourselves and that in infinitessimal ways it can be a protectionFINISH...trying to build a mountain out of this little experience is what bothers me...it is not like the experience was stage managed or that or it didnt even happen at all neither was the story concocted...... but I point out the lies of only them don't participate in war or politically neutral and also only them do door to door preaching. then quickly you change how frequently other did not participate or preach door to door!! which makes it clear the competition that you are presenting. there are better news like there was bus accident two of our members lost their lives but thank jahovah others were saved... what i say is what I saw in the article. people do things indirectly and one thing might have different factual meaning so am not just trying to say they promote but it is what it is. it is my opinion yes but something gave me that opinion and anyone who looks into the matter will understand it. I have seen JW attack churches for advertising programs on TV. to my grasp JW don't advertise things on tv. they try to be different. they try not to call their selves Christians they try not to call their KingDom hall church they always try to be different and they always generalize when a person do something in a church. funny thing is after the roman catholic church about gay and child abuse in church they are next. and what makes matters worst is that they hide such acts from the congregation and dis-fellowship victims who go to the police. those kind of scenario never makes it to their magazine but the one other churches like catholic church do makes it to their magazine. I am saying this because I see double standard all the time. I have watched you attack many religious group so you should be able to see your being in the same fry pan. and this is not because of you or JW. I am not going to side any where I just speak things as I see it. if it is winners chapel I speak RCCG I speak. this is one case I found disturbing that is why you see it here. in the facebook comment you see how no sympathy for the people who lost love ones or their lives was shown. all the JW commenting was annoying the one who tries to correct them they call him apostate!!! aside that you people find delight in the teaching of how God will destroy every non JW and in Armageddon and I think that is the reason they don't show it. they don't care if someone is kind or wicked or a murderer. all they know is he is not a JW so no sympathy should be shown. |
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ijawkid: the problem dude is!!! you wont accept the fact presented. Why are you talking about consistency? they have never supported war my dude or politics!!!!! in fact you should provide proof of them going to war. the thing is you are surprised to know what you know about only you guys not going to war is not true now you speak about consistency and dude no need for that they have never been to supported war before so end this particular argument. Well from what you said it is competition, if people go to preach like I said earlier rebottle was a month or week or 2 weeks it doesn't matter they go to preach. it is you who was saying if they preach frequently like you guys and again no one is competing with JW and when you use that statement or publish it in your magazines it goes to show how the use such the to promote their organization and incase you don't know the magazine comes to my door sometimes which brings out comparison like that or brag. Only we don't support war every other religion support war a clueless person will fall for that trick if he doesn't know many other religion don't support it either and therefore that is promotion. if they can say we don't go to war and this is why it is different when they try to force the whole religion into participation or supporting war it is a different case. look it is simple read the yearbook I ask you to show me page of other JW that died going to assembly in Nigeria US and other African countries like my original post stated you didn't. They talk about Jahovahs hand in saving those family I would thank BabaGod they were not at home they are not the only ones who survived and they were not in the plane and survived they were just not at home! yet the statement. "If we had been at home,’ said Chinyere, ‘we would surely have died. After the disaster, we were left with only our meeting clothes, but we have our lives. The circuit overseer immediately set up a relief committee, and the brothers took good care of us. We are very grateful.’ Collins said: ‘My relatives who had been opposed to my being a Witness have changed their minds. One of them told me: ‘Your Jehovah answers prayers. Hold on to your God because he helps you.’ Another person said: ‘Whatever you have been doing to serve God, continue to do it whole-souled.’ We have truly seen Jehovah’s hand in our case. I am very happy.’” – 2013 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, page 30" Witnesses reading the above will no doubt point to the article’s title, “The Brothers Took Good Care of Us,” and claim that any sentiments expressed in the experience allude to the gratitude of the family for the way their brothers supported them in the aftermath of the incident. However, when you read the above paragraphs at the end of the article, you notice that the “relief committee” set up for the family by the local Circuit Overseer is just a side note in the real purpose of the article, which is to drill home the importance of doing “whatever you have been doing to serve God” – meetings included. these are quotes from the original post which points out the message they are trying to pass. you can say comparing is not boasting fact is you guys boast with it even if it is not true you always try to apply such thing as attributes only you people have. |
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So your reason was no one cares? and who told you atheist don't pretend? this is the stupidest reason I have seen for someone to drop his faith. no real reason what so ever. it is better for me to live like God exist than to live like he doesn't only to realize later... Seriously they care the thing is many of them are brought up that way. in fact they don't even like school compared to Africans. the vanity they enjoy makes them no to go to church. things like fornication, beer and weed/drugs. I don't discriminate and my point is the reason to become atheist is just so cheap in your case |
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ijawkid: now you put strict on it ni? what part of they don't get involved do you not grasp? why use English words like strict trying to differentiate your JW? then you bring competition again to the matter? they preach in all the lands they are found don't if they do it once a week or 2 weeks or once a month they go out for preaching that is the koko. not everywhere there are some places you wont find JW some well know countries big countries or by simplifying they don't have Kingdom Hall in those place. your idea of competition just show the fact of boasting and how you people use it to promote your self however it is not only we preach don't go to war anymore it is now who is strict in not going to war like us or who go to preach frequently like us. |
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So you added to the news by saying they beheaded the man? where is your source for that? any citation? |
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ijawkid: I presented answers to your claim and you are still asking if the remain neutral to politics and war worldwide. dont say it is momentary or you are shocked to see that many religious groups dont go to war? catholic is universal roman catholic is different. because you read catholic peace moment means they you know about them? why are you looking for loop holes? if i present the information you will start looking for loop holes again. anyway i mention Mormons. church of christ assembly of God etc. they all preach door to door and other preach in some form or the other like standing in market place etc. world wide many churches are reaching people even church like redeemed so you guys should not use that to brag and promote also |
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So what prayers? was she praying that Jahovah should save her from the plane? How come it is the man that is saying her Jahovah answers prayer? what made him say that? did she pray for him? Moravians (one of the very first Protestant religions dating back to the 1500's) Brethern (Dunkards) groups, including Church of the Brethren Anabaptist groups, including Mennonites (16th century group numbering 1.5 million) Hutterites Schwenkfelders Bruderhof Communities Amish (numbering approximately 200,000) Society of Friends (Quakers) Doukhobors - 17th century breakaway from Russian Orthodox Molokans - 17th century breakaway from Russian Orthodox Some Pentecostal groups such as the Pentecostal Charismatic Peace Fellowship Seven Day Adventists Community of Christ Christadelphians Worldwide Church of God Pax Christi - A Catholic peace movement Fellowship of Reconciliation - A group formed in 1914 to unite pacifists regardless of denomination. All major religious denominations have affiliated associations including Anglican Pacifist Fellowship Methodist Peace Fellowship Baptist Peace Fellowship Orthodox Peace Fellowship Lutheran Peace Fellowship Presbyterian Peace Fellowship all this groups dont participate in war. below are statements from your society The Watchtower is quick to point the finger at other religions for their involvement in war, labelling their followers as "children of the Devil slaughtering their spiritual brothers" (Awake! 1985 Dec 22 p.10). Witnesses are proclaimed as unique, the only loving religion on earth and the only one abstaining from particpation in warfare. "In our century, which religion has obeyed this law of love? Surely not the religions of Christendom, for they have slaughtered one another by the tens of millions in two world wars and other conflicts. Jehovah's servants are unique in obeying the rule spoken by Peter and other apostles to a high court: "We must obey God as ruler rather than men." (Acts 5:29)" Watchtower 1990 Feb 1 p.22 i am only pointing out that people are persecuted too soon they will say only them are being persecuted like the say only them go door to door to preach. it is not which has carried out greatest preaching campaign are you not getting your fact from only one source? when you stay looking into other source or maybe remove the watchtower branded glasses and tin foil hat you are using you will see. |
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this looks no less than promotion to me and example of the advert is this statement! “My relatives who had been opposed to my being a Witness have changed their minds. One of them told me: ‘Your Jehovah answers prayers" "Hold on to your God because he helps you.’ Another person said: ‘Whatever you have been doing to serve God, continue to do it whole-souled.’ We have truly seen Jehovah’s hand in our case. I am very happy.” Please be informed if they stand neutral or dont engage i have no issues. but the propaganda that they make concerning that is what am about. Why make a statement like only JW dont go to war!!!!! we all know its not true and utter lie. statements like that are only use to promote and paint others with their propaganda. could you kindly direct me to the pages you are talking about? so we could clear your stance. let us see how they present that tragic events your are talking about. the persecution and more. Christians die in the northern part of our country what about places like iraq that you cant find JW operating? Christians die there also. only us go door to door to preach is another lie. Mormons do it. other Christians do it. you need to understand why am saying JW use things like this to promote the organization. like many church organize fake testimonies is what just happened concerning the way she speaks about her neighbor who oppose her being a witness. |
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ijawkid: you know you guys always use "we are being persecuted" to promote the organization. especially the one in WW2 how the claim that only them was the religion who did not fight or was neutral. if a Jahovah's witness lost his life cause of someone else like maybe like how other Christians are dying world wide they will quickly put it in the book or use it to promote. What i am saying they should have put the people who died in car accident because of assembly world wide. not the Dana air crash. And could you kindly guide me to other pages in the yearbook that speaks of tragedy? I will be grateful if you let me know more about this matter and compare how they present the info (ads). and example of the advert is this statement! “My relatives who had been opposed to my being a Witness have changed their minds. One of them told me: ‘Your Jehovah answers prayers" "Hold on to your God because he helps you.’ Another person said: ‘Whatever you have been doing to serve God, continue to do it whole-souled.’ We have truly seen Jehovah’s hand in our case. I am very happy.” |
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I think you didn't read my post then... what they think of people sorrow are in the facebook post. you should read what i post and not make blind arguments. and the question also goes why dont they put the bus tragedy in the US that 2 members died in the year book? when tragedy like this happen and they boast how God save his people cause they were preaching and others who died they show no sorrow instead use the tragedy to promote why it is good to be a witness or always do field service is shocking... unless you remove your tin foil hat you will not see the answers to your question in the original post. like one of the facebook comment states that our meeting are surely protective!!! tell me how is that not promoting the jahovahs witness with the tragedy of other people? |
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TRUCKMAN: @ poster, you just asked question without answering the question. how come they didn't use their own tragic event to promote the work of God? that's the question you should ask. when people are crying you guys are rejoicing that Jahovah protects his people meaning the ones that died are not his people so he let them perish... you can rejoice by saying thank God they were not at home not the people posting on facebook how Jahovah protect his people. and yes i think they promote it using other peoples sorrow. when that batmat cinema shoot out happened they did same thing. how no JW was killed bla bla bla... if you read what i said fully you will notice how the ones who lost their lives in uganda n nigeria didnt make it to the yearbook. talking about inquiries... I already did it. |
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Usually when tragedy strikes, it brings out the very best in people. We remember our common bond of humanity and how easily the precious gift of life can be snatched away from us, and we show sympathy for those who have suffered loss – remembering that we could just as easily have experienced similar calamity. [center]A report in the 2013 Yearbook implies that a Witness family who survived a plane crash that killed more than 150 people experienced “Jehovah’s hand”[/center] However, if you are a high-control religious group that wants its followers to believe they have God’s backing, you might not always show the greatest humanity or sensitivity when disaster strikes. In particular, the Watch Tower Society seems to excel in caring only about the welfare of Jehovah’s Witnesses, repeatedly insinuating that such ones enjoy special protection from Jehovah – especially if they put kingdom interests first. A classic example of such self-interest and lack of empathy can be found in the latest 2013 Yearbook, now available for download from http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=PDF&output=html&pub=yb13&langwritten=E&option=TRGCHlZRQVNYVrXF&txtCMSLang=E Pages 29 and 30 relate an experience from one Witness family whose home was destroyed when a plane crashed into their building in Lagos, Nigeria – killing all 153 passengers and an unknown number on the ground. The following CNN news report reveals the chaos following the accident, and the difficulty in retrieving the bodies from the wreckage… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXh-9aG8sxM&feature=player_embedded It is clear that the timing and location of this tragic crash were entirely coincidental, caused by either mechanical failure or human error. Local residents interviewed in the above report could count themselves extremely fortunate not to have been in the plane’s trajectory when it slammed into the packed Lagos suburb. Most people who heard of the accident all over the world will have felt overwhelming sympathy for those unfortunate to have lost their lives in this unforeseen catastrophe – not to mention their families and loved ones. While individual survivors living nearby who are religious may feel inclined to thank God that they survived the incident, it is wholly inappropriate for an organization like the Watch Tower Society to attempt to capitalize on the tragedy by implying that one Witness family’s survival was due to divine protection because they had loyally attended their Sunday meeting. While this is not spelled out in the 2013 Yearbook article, it is unmistakably implied. The final two paragraphs in the article read as follows… [center]“‘If we had been at home,’ said Chinyere, ‘we would surely have died. After the disaster, we were left with only our meeting clothes, but we have our lives. The circuit overseer immediately set up a relief committee, and the brothers took good care of us. We are very grateful.’ Collins said: ‘My relatives who had been opposed to my being a Witness have changed their minds. One of them told me: ‘Your Jehovah answers prayers. Hold on to your God because he helps you.’ Another person said: ‘Whatever you have been doing to serve God, continue to do it whole-souled.’ We have truly seen Jehovah’s hand in our case. I am very happy.’” – 2013 Yearbook of Jehovah’s Witnesses, page 30.[/center] Witnesses reading the above will no doubt point to the article’s title, “The Brothers Took Good Care of Us,” and claim that any sentiments expressed in the experience allude to the gratitude of the family for the way their brothers supported them in the aftermath of the incident. However, when you read the above paragraphs at the end of the article, you notice that the “relief committee” set up for the family by the local Circuit Overseer is just a sidenote in the real purpose of the article, which is to drill home the importance of doing “whatever you have been doing to serve God” – meetings included. [center]Facebook reaction reveals the true intent[/center] If proof were needed of the true message behind this article, namely that attending meetings will protect you from catastrophic events, this is abundantly supplied by the reaction of ordinary Witnesses in comments made online. When one Facebook group called “Theocratic Ministry School” posted a copy of the experience, the post received over 500 likes. Here are some of the responses from Witnesses… Potebele Solomon We should not forsake our christian;s meeting for any reasons. Ibeh Ndubuisi Godson Our meeting are surely protective Jennifer Chuka This show dat Jehovah deliver his people in a different ways. Fayese Olaitan Abayo Jehovah will keep delivering his ppl Justina Bisade Phillips Jehovah’s name is realy ‘a strong tower’ protecting his people. Keisha Dj-Bubblelic Ious-Stith This is truly a lesson in obedience. This family clearly understood Jehovah’s instructions about not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together. This clearly served as a protection in more ways than just one! Huldah Efenudu Jehovah really saves,cares…. Russell Ogbonna Stan firm (in the truth) and see the salvation of Jehovah Makinde Taiwo Jehovah’s hand is never 2 short 2 help and rescue HIS PPLE. Glory Festus It is very gud 2 obey Jehovah and nt 2 mis metings 4 any reasons Eunice Olanrewaju Jehovah really cares about us and he loves us. may we never miss christian meetings cos nothing can be compare to it. Cheryl Lebo Chidoba jehovah provides escape for the loyal….his servants will see what a mighty crag is he#singin# song 131 Adaeze Cessa Omoba Jehovah has always been our refuge and he will keep delivering his people The above comments, which show complete ignorance and lack of empathy for the 150+ non-Witnesses who lost their lives in this tragedy, demonstrate that the true purpose behind the article was achieved. The Society wanted to convey the message that “Jehovah’s hand” protects those who obediently attend meetings, and this is precisely how it was understood by most Witnesses reading it. In fact, if you are able to view the Facebook page, I would recommend that you take a moment to do so. A few conscientious and sensitive Witnesses actually tried in vain to quell the ignorance of their fellow worshippers by reminding them that “time and unforeseen occurrence befall us all.” (Eccl. 9:11) One poster called Janai Hall was accused of being an apostate simply for trying to be one such voice of reason. Overall, the brainwashed victims of Watchtower propaganda seemingly prevailed against the few who dared to contemplate the incident in context. Where was Jehovah’s hand in Miami? Another conscientious poster, Zach Broxton, reminded the Facebook group of a recent tragic accident in Miami on December 1st 2012, in which a bus carrying 32 Jehovah’s Witnesses to an assembly crashed into an overpass, killing two Witnesses and leaving four others severely injured. The JW.org report on the incident is available on http://www.jw.org/en/news/headlines/#mid702012039. you can search cnn for the news of the crash. The obvious question would be, “where was Jehovah’s hand when this tragedy happened?” Again, you have Witnesses obediently following the Slave’s instructions to “not forsake” gathering together, but through a freak event they end up paying for their loyalty with their lives. Both the Miami bus crash and the Nigeria plane crash were tragic accidents that could not have been foreseen. Both resulted in the loss of precious human life – one on a much larger scale than the other. In one of those incidents a Witness family survived by attending a meeting – in the other two Witnesses died and four were injured for showing the same loyalty. It is therefore beyond any reasonable doubt that Jehovah does not grant special protection to Jehovah’s Witnesses who obey the Watch Tower Society by congregating at meetings and assemblies, and yet this is what is unmistakably implied in the 2013 Yearbook article, as evidenced by the reaction of Witnesses on Facebook. [center]A terrible witness[/center] I shudder to think what relatives of the plane’s 153 crew members and passengers (or indeed those on the ground who died when it collided) would make of the Yearbook article after reading it. Imagine yourself reading the article through their eyes, and seeing one Witness family claim to have experienced “Jehovah’s hand” in the incident because they were spared a horrible death. Likely, you would not want to speak to a Jehovah’s Witness again for the rest of your life, and nobody would blame you for feeling that way. Yes, the Yearbook article is a shocking example of propaganda on the part of the Society. It is a shameless attempt to promote the benefits of being a Witness by exploiting a deadly catastrophe that claimed the lives of many dozens of innocent people. I am only grateful that at least a small number of Witnesses were able to fight the indoctrination, and had the courage and soundness of mind to try to reason with their deluded fellow worshippers who appear to be well and truly under the grip of the Watchtower’s propaganda machine. Interestingly,the Fb posters forget that only a few months ago in the same country in Nigeria, over 20 JWs, including children lost their lives tragically in a road accident while on their way to a district convention onthe back of truck. ..a few years ago 6 JWs and their non JW driver lost their lives in a road accident in Uganda on their way from the branch office dedication,they included four missionaries,a bethelite, and a branch committee member’s wife. .these sad events weren’t even mentioned in the yearbook…I wondered how the affected families thought when reading the yearbook report on the branch dedication with no mention of their loved ones who had devoted their lives to the full time ministry This only shows just how the WBTS is insensitive and only cares about promoting their selfish agenda. . All persons affected by such tragedies, whether JWs or not, are human beings with real feelings. |
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