Blues is blue not rock and I have hear Mayer's latest. It's bluesy but not really blues. No one really into blues would call it that here in the US.


Tracy Chapman and John Mayer are considered singer-songwriter indie-pop not rock. That's why I asked. I think there may be a different definition of rock in Nigeria. Saying Tracy Chapman or John Mayer are rock is like saying Celine Dion is rock,

Do you consider John Mayer and Tracy Chapman rock in Nigeria?

YEMINEM said:

>@jadestar
looking 4 rock band to team tour with in nigeria, hope u find, and if u do, hope they possess real quality and not some lagos kpangolo punks who claim to be rockers.

Yes. We will want quality. Music with some real thought put into it.

>years back, i tried to assemble like minds with great affinity for hard rock (they weren't really into heavy metal as such), it never worked out because they lost interest, they were also afraid of bad-labelling and stigma, they just couldn't form that band i'd wished 4 but i remain relentless in my search and thank ZEUS i now have a friend who's not only lyrically sound in rap, but has dis burning flare for rock music too.

Sounds like you guys could open up for N.E.R.D if they ever get back together with Spymob. Or maybe Linkin Park.

>he has proven it and more than willing. a day is coming when we shall arise like a phoenix, who says 2 can't make a band, we gon'be d deadliest rock duo in naija.


Do it! You never know how far it can go till you do it.

>have got some questions for u,

ok

>what leitmotif is ur rock music based on?

What is a leitmotif?

>what particular style have u adopted from evansescence?

Well I am influenced by Lacuna Coil and Plumb. Two bands/artists Evanescence's Amy Lee cites as big influences on her. I actually discovered Evanescnce from listening to Lacuna Coil not the other way around. Plus its easier to say Evanescence than "Goth Metal" when a lot of people don't know what Goth Metal is but everyone knows Evanescence.

I'd say i'm influenced both musically and vocally though i do not have the range of Cristina Scabba or even Amy Lee.

is there goin to be some helluva screaming and shouting in ur production?

Not at all. That's not my style. I'm melodic. If there is some shouting or growling it will be from another band member not me and it wont be the focus of the song.

>are u really deep into rock? cos i think a dedicated and bonafide rock chic should at least have a small tatoo drawn somewhere, what a waste of skin.

Due to my spiritual and family beliefs I do not feel it is best for me to get a tatoo but I have been a rock chic from way back. I have hella temporary tatoos for performances.

Music is not evil. What is in people's hearts when they write it and the effects of those who are impressionable can be good or evil and it doesn't matter if we're talking about Rap, RnB, Rock n Roll, Heavy Metal, Country, whatever.

Evil minds, create evil music regardless of genre.

Well there was bass player, Rayna Foss who was replaced by Nadja Peulen when she got married. Could be either.

This is a ridiculous question. It's like asking if Hip Hop/Rap promotes murder and criminality.

I do have yahoo.

I am jadekingston on Yahoo.

They have been around for a long time and are pretty good, singer has Naija blood and he has an incredible voice, supposed to work on a new album this summer. I just bought their autographed box set.

Here's my favorite video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpWXWoO9wWI&fmt=18

And 2nd favorite:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7KliFJQaM4&fmt=18

So do you think there are enough fans of harder rock/metal in Naija to fill a venue if a tour of say Wicked Wisdom, or Nightwish or the like came to Lagos?

I've never been to Nigeria but I promised myself if my band gets big we will go! 

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Re: Aren't No Rock, Grunge, Heavy Metal Fans In Lagos
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i'm a big rock addict. Got almost 22 gig worth of songs, Rock songs making 80%. .
RCHP is cool, I Love Zephy Song, Carlifornication and Paper Tissue, Crazy songs. .

@Poster

Kamelot - excellent!

Within Temptation. .you'll love 'em if you like Evanescence . - THIS IS TH TRUTH!

And you will like Eyes of Eden if you like Within Temptation. What do you think of Nightwish. People seem to love them or hate them. I like the new singer better than the old one but most old fans don't.

Also I am a big Lacuna Coil fan. I'm also a rock singer, and producer (see my post in the Future of Rock Music in Nigeria to hear some of my work).

What the hell?

ADEMA
AVENGED SEVENFOLD
BREAKING BENJAMIN
CROSSFADE
DEFTONES
DISTURBED
DRY CELL
EVANESCENCE
GODHEAD
KORN
LINKIN PARK
ORGY
PAPA ROACH
SLIP KNOT
STATIC - X
SYSTEM OF A DOWN
THREE DAYS GRACE


No love for Wicked Wisdom? Come on now!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8YLNFAdJp8&

Oh and if you like Evanescence you'll like Lacuna Coil even better (since thats who Evanescence copies).

This whole thing is a myth. I doubt Oprah ever heard the song. In fact I doubt she can name more than 3 current hip hop tracks much less one from Nigeria. It's really not her thing. She is more likely to listen to Enya than 50 cent.

I think the point is to worry less about be "authenticaly Nigerian" and worry more about just being a good solid rock act.

The world of music is bigger than Nigeria so why worry about getting signed in Nigeria. Here I sit halfway across the world in Seattle. I have produced more than one artist via the internet sending music back and forth. With rock why limit yourself? Example, Lacuna Coil is Italian, yet they are recording their album in Los Angeles. Likewise Jimi Hendrix was American and recorded in London. Its not about trying to reinvent everything that exists elsewhere in Nigeria but making use of what exists already in Nigeria and elsewhere to produce the best single or album and putting on a good show.

Most acts now make way more money on touring and merchandise than on album sales. You just need one or two chart hits.

If Gamine is good and if she works with the right producer there are labels in Europe and the US that would sign her act in a heartbeat and she will grace the pages of Kerrang and all the rock magazines because she is different.Kind of like how they all were into Japanese heavy metal when it first came out. Music industry is always looking for the new angle. Just being from Nigeria doing hard rock is a new angle.


And big in the US and Europe = Big in Nigeria especially since she would be Nigerian.

People are always going to compare you to someone else. That doesn't mean you're not original.

Its just what people do in order to describe an artist.

I've been told I sound like Shania Twain, and the girl from Flyleaf but I don't sound like either really nor do I try to. If you get told you sound like more than one person then you're original for if you were not then you'd keep being compared to the same person.

Also, being original is not something you try to be, you just are. It's Zen. It's not something you should think or worry about. Gamine would be original just by being a platinum selling rock vocalist from Nigeria 

Copying others takes thought. Originality takes intuition.

I've heard a lot of "original" stuff that sounds like crap because people were trying too hard not to sound like someone else.  That's just as bad as copying.

Yes, be yourself, but all artists have influences. Some show theirs in their work more than others.

Just a quick note, I noticed some responses in this thread talking about the relative popularity of Rock in Nigeria and what sells etc,

I have not been to Nigeria but I can tell you this: Rock is global.

Also, no one who does anything worth anything in music sits down and says, "right, R&B is popular, I'm going to sing R&B." It doesn't work like that. msic is a feeling and an expression. When I met Will Smith's wife, Jada Pinkett Smith briefly for like a minute, I asked her for advice and she told me two things: "Sing from your heart and write what you feel."

In other words if you feel like rock then you sing rock, you don't go watching charts, you sing from your heart and what YOU are feeling. Trust me, the audience is there for this, regardless of where someone comes from. Rock is global, the same Evanescence tune that's popular in America is popular in Europe, Brazil, Thailand or Nigeria.

I trust what Jada says cause she and her band toured with Ozzy Osborne's Ozzfest.

Take a look:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1g6viZ3DEw

And an interview with her and the band:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTrHns7QBMI

Also check out this interview with OTEP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNTp5Vnmdx0&feature=related

They're tight with Will Smith and Jada. In fact Will Smith was on stage with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCa3CCx2iKc&feature=related


Jada could have sung whatever she wanted but she wanted to do rock. Forget small minded people who can only see what is in front of their face. They are not visionaries. Forget people who point to radio charts and tell you that's what you should do. They're just as bad. Real music is made for hearts not for charts and there is a HUGE audience for that which is real.


Oh and rock music IS and always has been a black thing since way back.

Little Richard and Chuck Berry laid the foundations for rock, Jimi Hendrix (who was from my town of Seattle) laid the foundation for Metal and Grunge, the Bad Brains laid the foundation for every American Punk rock band to come out since 1980 and are cited by 311, Green Day and No Doubt as a big influence on them and Prince, Slash from Guns n Roses, Tina Turner, Kina, Res, Tony Macalpine and Lenny Kravitz all have represented well in the 80s and 90s. Not forgetting Living Colour who really broke down the barriers in the 1980s. And don't even get me started on all the Rock/Rap stuff going back to Run DMC, and now with Mos Def's metal band Blackjack Johnson, and The Roots rock stuff.Not to mention Rock and Roll came from Blues which was made by ex-slaves. Heck if you want to go back far enough the guitar itself is an African invention. Ro

What cracks me up is when the same black people who might look at you funny if you say you do rock, listen to Eminem or Justin Timberlake or Christine Aguilera,

For more on all this get this book - The Black Experience in Rock n Roll

http://www.amazon.com/Rip-Up-Black-Experience-Rock/dp/140396243X

And as for women in metal, look no further than this blog, something tells me you'll like this:
http://www.therockblog.de

Music is music. It doesn't have a color, only texture. We have an African-American president over here now. It's time to rock, the world is ready.

Contact me on AOL Instant Messenger, ladyjiggyj is my screen name.

Hey Gamine, check out my reply to your post about the future of rock music in Nigeria and get in touch:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-30581.96.html#msg3500352