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morpheus24: There are so many numerous African Americans and even Caribbean's who embrace their African Heritage. Please do not think we ALL despise our roots. That is simply not true. You still are refusing to understand that WE were TAUGHT to HATE Africa by the slave master. This level of Brainwashing will take time to dissipate, possibly GENERATIONS. This is why Bob Marley said "EMANCIPATE YOURSELVES FROM MENTAL SLAVERY." North American Blacks went through more cruel slavery than in most other places and the evidence is still clearly in their psyche. Your dislike of AA is not productive or helpful to the greater good of BLACK/AFRICAN People. |
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morpheus24: I already did. I do not feel AUTOSOMAL DNA test tells me much. I already know I am MOSTLY of Sub Saharan African extraction without the help of DNA Testing. What would impress me is if they could give me a breakdown of the percentages of the African tribes I come from rather than telling me I am 89% Sub Saharan African. What a waste of Money. And if I am of 11% European extraction how will that help me in the world today? Will it mean I get preferential treatment from whites? |
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morpheus24: I have done quite a bit of research on DNA testing. The DNA fest only tells a person a where a tiny percentage of their DNA comes from. So for instance if your Great-great-great-great Grandfather was Yoruba the Y CHROMOSOME would pass on from father to son unchanged for GENERATIONS. The DNA test would be able to tell you this. However it would not tell you where your Grandmothers on your Fathers side came from. As it is only targeting the Y CHROMSOME that MEN Pass on to their sons. Also if a white Slave owner back down the line on your fathers side raped an African woman and had a son and that son had sons with only black women and their sons had more sons with only black women. The DNA TEST would still show a EUROPEAN Y CHROMOSOME AS it remains unchanged for generations. Therefore such a person may look 100% black and not be able to trace their Paternal African Origin or tribe. |
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sambos994: As skinny as a skeleton LOL!!!! |
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morpheus24: ^^^ @Morpheus You have not understood what has been said here. "Black" is something you will be called by whites weather you would like it or not. Whites do not care about your cultural differences with African Americans or Caribbean. In the white mans eyes you are the same as them. If you reject blacks from the diaspora you bring division. When "BLACKS or Africans are divided against each other the slave master rejoices. This is how slavery began by enmity between Africans. DIVIDE AND CONQUER!!! Do you honestly think slavery would have happened if Africans were united?? The Europeans did not go deep into Africa, they stayed on the coasts because they were afraid of the environment in Africa. Their bodies could not withstand that environment. Neither did they have all the medicines that they have today. So what did they do?? I will tell you. They paid Africans to capture their enemies and bring them to the coasts to be jam packed into ships. Obviously we are not learning from this because here you are STILL being hostile to the descendants of kidnapped Africans as if we had a part in it. YOU SHOULD BE ACCEPTING TO THEM. They ARE YOUR PEOPLE, LIKE IT OR NOT!!! 1 Like |
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Every so often though I have come across people who are Somali but they do not have the typical Semitic type features or look pretty much like people from other parts of Africa. This tells me they ARE RELATED to other Africans/Blacks.Maybe there is admixture in there but some Somalis have very afro hair too. 1 Like |
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Or does it not work on white people? |
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morpheus24: Well the sad fact is Afro-Caribbean's and African Americans did not ask to be stolen or sold into slavery. Neither did we ask to be forced to speak English neither did we asked to be forced to accept another name that did not belong to us. It is not simply a case of wanting to have it "BOTH WAYS" as you put it. The situation stands as it is weather we like it or not. The term "BLACK" is used because we do not know the exact tribes that we originated from and to be honest by now we are descended from a MIXURE of various African tribes and peoples. So of all of these African tribes that we come from who's culture do we choose. The Yoruba? The Igbo? The Ibibio? The Asante? The Akan? The Ewe? When slaves were brought from tribes that are usually in conflict with each other to a strange land ruled by white masters, suddenly they put aside their tribal differences and work together to survive the cruelties of slavery. Tribal customs and religions are no longer as important as they realise that the slave master does not care who is Igbo or Asante. In his eyes they are two uncivilised Negros who speak ugly primitive languages, that he will NOT tolerate or allow in case you were planning a rebellion. So please try to understand what the African Americans and Caribbean's have been through before you say such things. 1 Like |
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So in other words dasparrow. You do not consider the descendants of Africa as NOT quite African? |
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The reasoning behind my idea is that by the repatriating of the African diaspora it would hopefully contribute to the rebuilding and development of Africa. As we all know what the Motherland has been through historically and this is one of the reasons why Africa has troubles today. I am tired of hearing how poor and troubled Africa is. Maybe the descendants of Africa can do Africa proud. |
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I am aware some already do. I was more thinking on a large scale. As Marcus Garvey had intended. |
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Why does it bother you if Nigeria is in the Arab league? Nigerians are not Arabs to any Degree. Also you should see this: "A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq ... do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the (Zanj, the SOMALI, and other blacks who resemble them.) The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two."[3] Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD |
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Well many Somali people spend a lot of time trying to prove they are not black. What they need to realise is that Arabs consider Somalis as BLACK. Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin." Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256 Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief." Sahih Bukhari 1:11:662 Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said to Abu-Dhar, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if he is an Ethiopian with a head like a raisin." Sahih Bukhari 1:11:664 |
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Should they be granted Citizenship in African countries? And will they be accepted by the people? Even though they don't speak any African languages? 1 Like 1 Share |
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I ask this question because in the Caribbean and the USA a lot of black people are not aware of their exact ancestral origins. Where did most slaves come from in Africa? |
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