MamaOO:

Yes! She’s right! Stop spewing lies. I work for a health insurance company and no, self paid patients are not better off for the hospitals. I’ve said it before, the delay in payment for hospitals when they see patients with insurance is because most of these hospitals do not submit claims on time. They usually just collate the claims for like a month or two and send it in bulk.

Where I work, most of these claims are not even touched by a claims examiner. It goes through an automated system and payout is almost instant. It’s the really complicated ones that get rejected by the auto system and has to be examined by a claims examiner.

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Beautyaddy:


That's a Big Fat Lie!!

You still haven't given up on this your baseless argument.

No matter the amount of anger or frustration you spew out about the US visa process it is not going to change anything about them.

Your anger and frustration should be spewed out on the Nigerian government who has caused uncountless amout of Nigerians to seek desperately to make sure that they have their babies abroad mainly for US/Canada citizenship.


Anyways, you can continue with the nagging and fustration comments if it's the only thing that is going to keep you sane.

Miss innocent
You term it lies because i disagree with u please potray ur argument with backup evidence not nigeria govt and stop making excuse ..yoyo!!

NothingDoMe:
From all I've read so far you can help yourself by doing the following:

1. Ensure you fill your Nigerian address for ALL documents not just Birth certificate please. Hospital records et all should have your Nigerian address. This may make it difficult for hospitals to apply for Medicaid on your behalf since it is obvious that you don't reside in America and cannot be entitled to Medicaid.

2. For now, you can go for a higher priced hospital because it seems to be what they are also considering to detect Medicaid fraud. I do not like this approach because I believe it is the government's responsibility to weed out Medicaid fraud and not yours, but it is what it is.

3. It is not a do or die affair. Trump has stated that he would try to stop birth tourism. Once that happens Nigerians will face another country even if the country na remote island in the middle of nowhere, Nigerians will reach there. We need to consider fixing this nation by fixing ourselves. We can't continue like this. Seriously.

I was talking to a financial officer recently about the discount issue offer to self pay patient

“Usa operate a zero tolerance policy on fraud so if the embassy or anybody fit the hospital discount offer to international patient is a fraud then the FBI would have been invloved with criminal investigation but it not the case here ..
The discount issue is just a quick way to refuse visa applicant Which cannot be appeal and limited foreign child birth in usa which is a baseless excuse to the hospital because self paying patient are more profitable to the hospital than the insurance company

Beautyaddy:


Nobody is covering for anyone.

The fact that you do not like the response you are getting to your opinions about the US embassy doesn't make it that one is covering for the US embassy.

It has been said multiple and endless times that a visa of foreign country is not a right but a privilege.

If one is denied a visa to another foreign country then one should move on and apply to another country. It's not that hard and it shouldn't be that hard.

You shifted from my main point..DISCOUNT LIES BY USA EMBASSY TO DENIAL VISA )))

Beautyaddy:


How do you know that?

Nigerians are not the ones going to birth in the US and have been caught abusing the opportunity.

The recent refuse base on discount excuse is deliberate and unjust ....please stop covering up for the embassy .two wrongs do not make a rigth!!

[quote author=Beautyaddy post=74454000]

How do you know that?

Nigerians are not the ones going to birth in the US and have been caught abusing the opportunity.[/quote

The recent refuse base on discount excuse is deliberate and unjust ....please stop covering up for the embassy .two wrongs do not make a rigth!!

justwise:
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No hidden agenda, they are just fed up with some Nigerians and their dubious/lies just the way you are encouraging the poster now.

Justwise , usa embassy cannot be wrong that ur one sided agurement but ..i disagree ..please you answer the question of discount lies by the embassy to denail renewer to innocent applicant and why the sterotype ??

I stand by my statement their is hidden agenda to reduce the number of nigerians given birth in usa

MamaOO:

You are part of the people causing issues for innocent people who genuinely wanna get their visas and mind their genuine business. How would you advise her to stay in the US for 6 months after she declared she was gonna stay for two weeks? Isn’t that dubious?
FYI: whatever you say at the POE is documented. Staying for 6months is the same as lying and I doubt if the VOs will look kindly at her during renewal.
What do I know sef?

Miss innocent=)

The current trend of discount trick by usa embassy in nigeria to refuse visa na new things ..comment?

OmoBendel24:


Not a valid reason to substantiate a 50/50 chance thing. Na today? Her chances of entering back in with her well prepared “burden of proof” is almost a 100% while renewal chances will be almost 10% if not even non-existent!

The current trend of discount trick by usa embassy in nigeria to refuse visa na new things ..comment?

OmoBendel24:


I can tell you authoritatively that a lot of hosts don’t have the faintest of idea of the workings of this birthing and even visa matters please! Don’t follow this advice they are giving you. What exactly are your strong fears? I see none yet....

Most important is paying your bills but this whole aspect is turn against nigerians even when they pay their bills..can anybody tell me why??
Because l can tell you from experience she may not be allow in feburay it a 50/50 chance!

Although there are no specific regulations prohibiting pregnant foreign nationals from entering the U.S., entry is allowed or denied at the discretion of the admitting U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Officer. If the CBP Officer determines that you are likely to become a ward of the government (meaning that the government must provide medical care because you do not have medical coverage), you can be denied entry.

When determining if you will be allowed to enter the U.S., CBP Officers take into consideration the date your child is due for delivery and the length of time you intend to stay in the U.S. In addition, they want evidence that you have sufficient medical insurance to cover any medical necessities while you are in the U.S. and that you intend to return home.

If it is determined that you do not have sufficient medical insurance to cover any unexpected or expected medical care while in the U.S., you can be denied entry. Additionally, if you are pregnant and entering the U.S. at a border port of entry via vehicle, be aware the radiation detection portals deployed at the ports do not emit any radiation, and do not present a hazard to you and your unborn child.

OmoBendel24:


I understand oh! But, shebi you go renew this visa for her when time come, abi?

It’s actually in her best interest to do her holiday, come back home and return to the US for birthing if she’s able please, don’t encourage her along this path at this time, it won’t go well las las!

And can you gurantee renewal even if she stay one week and come back in febuary and the discount refuser trick is played on her!

ninab:


So u disagree on been truthful ?
This is unbelievable !
Well she knows wats best for her

I will answer you this way,staying back to have her baby is not against the law. She was stamped in for 6 month despsite saying 2 weeks , she can stay for 6 month based on the visa duration..based on her current situation and pay your bills ...it called b1/b2 visa she was not stamping in for 2 weeks and believe me going back to nigeria and coming back by feburary she may be denial entry ..facts
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ninab:



You told them you where there for 2 weeks stay 2 weeks and leave
When I had my baby in 2015 April I went November 2014 no one asked me again why I left and came back
I left the us in August renewed my visa
November and am in the United state again presently again 8days
If I decide to come in again next year for birthing wud declare and come in
Let’s stop causing problems for ourselves how can u even sit in the us for 6 months it only shows u don’t have a job and that would even raise eye brows
Please leave after 2 weeks and return March as u earlier planned except u are not been truthful

I disagree with u based on recent altitude of the usa embassy in nigeria toward child birth applicant for visa renewer..go and check the reason for recently refuser then you will know their is a hidden agenda to the whole birth things especially towards nigerians applicant!

abiscomama:
Please I need your advice guys.i did a Dropbox In February and got my visa in March 2018.prior to this time,I had my son in El Paso February 2016.my family decided to go on a trip this December but hubby couldn’t come along.need I also mention I’m pregnant.POE was Houston while destination was Dallas.i came in with my 2 kids age 2(3 in few weeks) and 5.i got to the officer and he asked to see my son who is the citizen,also saw him staring at my tummy but he didn’t say anything as I’m really not showing.
Officer:how long did u stay the last time you came
Me:4 months for birthing purpose and vacation
Officer:did u take any aid
Me:no I didn’t as I paid all my bills
Officer:can I see the receipts
Me:here it is “pulling it out of my bag”
He flips through and asked why I was in the states
Me:just a vacation for 2 weeks
Officer:your 4 right fingers pls and stamped us in till June 2019
My worry now is the change of intent isn’t working again and if I return to Nigeria there’s a 50% chance I might be allowed in.i have the intention of returning back to the states by March to have my baby.im really confused as some persons are saying you are in already,stay and have baby and cope for the 6 months you have been stamped in for.6 months is a long time for me really considering my kids school.some are saying why waste money to go back to Nigeria and return again by March cos the officer will ask why u r back again when u just left in January and we all know you can’t declare for birthing purpose.im a confused being right now really

Stay back and have your baby, you have a b1/b2 visa and you are allowed to stay for 6 month and why the stress ,even you stay for 2 days and pay your bills..nobody can guranteee your usa visa renewal after childbirth..that the fact for now and you can see based on many Dubicious and unprofessional reasons of discount for refuser by the usa embassy in nigeria recently ..i wish you safe delivery

Please which organisation cAn l use for my ECA I Have a certificate Three years in school of nursing
And 18 month in school of midwifery as Register nursing but not a university degree because many people here have a university degree which is different from my own certificate but l work as a licenced nurse and midwery with 9 years working experiencs
Please i need advice before starting this process..thank you