humanshado:
@Azy1223
@Jer29v11

Please don't confuse yourselves, refer to the reply from EA quoted below that was shared by @Azy1223. Take special note to the section I put in blue colour for emphasis. As long as you have an Engineering degree, it does not matter what Engineering field you nominated for assessment as long as you can prove it to EA. Any body that read Engineering must take some foundation subjects. The foundation subjects mentioned in the EA's reply are: Mathematics, Mechanics (fluid and solid), Thermodynamics, Materials Science, Electricity & Magnetism, Engineering Drawing etc. Check your transcripts to make sure they are there and you are good to go.

Thanks for your response Humanshado. My transcript has these fundamental subjects listed and I agree with your interpretation of the mail from EA. however, to be double sure (so as not to throw money down the drain), I will wait for their response to my mail. Thanks again!

Azy1223:
memberservices@engineersaustralia.org.au

Thanks. That was the same email address I used.

chuckdee13:
In mine I didn't submit documentary evidence for one of my ITs, n it wasn't a problem. As for u needing the points from work experience I'll say u should then go for the industrial engineering since u have more than 4 years exp there. Just contact EA to be doubly sure cos I'm not so sure about it.

Thanks for your response Chuckdee13. I have sent EA an email...I'm awaiting their response.

Azy1223:
@Jer29v11. if I am in shoe i would rather go for the electrical engineering option even if I have to do english test 2 or 3 times to get the maximum points. with electrical Engr. and 60 points u get invitation to apply fast compare Industrial which is in a more competitive group going by the last FY result.

For the CDR people have been commenting here that they used their Industrial Training, and Projects for Career Episode. check online for samples to guide you. seek out a good final year student if you feel that it is such a long time and you don't have time to revise. Just my thoughts.

@Chukdee13. In my own case I already contacted them please see the mail I recieved from dem below. some part removed becasue i dont want them to ban this username again.

Thanks Azy1223. I appreciate your advice. I have sent EA an email, but I am yet to receive a response. Can you please confirm the email address you sent your enquiry to? Many thanks!

chuckdee13:
Jer29v11

I still stand to be corrected. Since u have more than 4years work exp in the tasks required of an industrial engineer (according to u) then I guess ur good to go nominating that. But unless u really need the points u will claim from work exp,I'll advise u nominate ur 1st degree to make things easier. Just like it has been said here time without number,u don't need work exp to assess with EA. U can use related ITs and projects done during ur study. All these can be used comfortably. But the choice is solely urs.

Note u can't just say u have an engineering degree and so u can nominate any engineering profession,it doesn't work that way because they usually scrutinize ur transcript and expect u should have done certain courses. This is what a certain number (I honestly don't know how many exactly) of work exp years can cover for.

Thanks for your response. If indeed this is the case, it is certainly a game changer for me then - and probably not a very good one. My reasons are (1) Writing a career episode using my BSc engineering degree alone will be tough. If I eventually manage to write the career episode based on my project and Industrail attachment (IT) experience, I do not have documentary evidence of my IT employment (I doubt the company still exists). (2) Yes, I need to claim points for my work experience, except I get the maximum points from IELTS which will then give me the exact 60 points required.

I think I would send EA an email outlining these concerns. But in the meantime, what do you suggest I do?

chuckdee13:
Azy123

First of all,I stand to be corrected,u can't get a positive assessment in an occupation u have no degree in with just work experience except that work experience is up to 5years and even so its still the sole decision of the assessing body in question.

Secondly,I don't know much about wood products engineering but if u feel it rhymes with the tasks of an agricultural engineer then u might be on the right track. To be on the safe side,send EA an email tabling this out n ask if u can nominate agricultural engineering. Though I know they'll still say that ur transcript will speak for u,so if u can compare what u did in sch to what agric engineers do n u see about 60% similarities then u might also be on the right track. Above all,do ur homework and get ur facts right before u do anything.

Chuckdee13, I have a few questions based on your comment. My BSc (electrical engineering) & MSc (Industrial environmental mgt) are not in anyway related and I have no work experience with my BSc. I have nominated an occupation (industrial engineer) which is closely related to what I do in my current employment (I have been in employment for over 4 years). Do you think I can get a positive assessment from EA if my CDR including CPD and Career Episodes are based entirely on work experience in my current role, and have nothing to do with electrical engineering?

I had thought I could go ahead with writing my CDR with my work experience ONLY. I assume as long as I have a BSc in engineering, I can base my CDR on any work experience closely related to the occupation I nominated. This is quite confusing I must say.

chuckdee13:
Jer29v11

In addition to what bellong and humanshado have said, pls go to www.anzscosearch.com and study the tasks required for the engineering profession ur nominating and make sure ur career episodes are in line with them and if assessing work experience, same thing applies. This is to avoid getting an engineering technologist outcome.

Thanks for reiterating this Chuckdee13.

humanshado:
To support what @Bellong has mentioned. It is highly advisable to assess both your educational qualification and relevant work experience for the following reasons.

1) If you plan to practice as an Engineer you have to belong to EA and your assessment will serve as the starting point for stage 1.
2) It validates your foreign degree that gives comfort to employers in Australia.
3) Assessing your relevant work experience makes it easier for Australian Immigration to process your application and hence makes it faster. 99.99% of the time, Australian Immigration accepts EA's number of years for work experience. This saves you the trouble of unnecessary work validation process during visa processing.

When I initially applied to EA for assessment, I applied under Washington Accord for my MSc from UK. EA told me that my MSc was not enough to be considered under Washington Accord since my BEng was not from the UK. I had to assess my BEng through CDR and use the MSc as continuing professional development. Therefore I had to re-apply under CDR + Relevant Work Experience Assessment. That going back and forth wasted some precious time and I feel I should share it with you to avoid it. I also advise you to use fast track option if you can afford the addtional AUD275. It is worth it - trust me.

Please note that when submitting your application to EA, you have to nominate an occupation that you will be assessed on since it is CDR. As long as you have a degree in Engineering, it usually does'nt matter what field of Engineering you nominated provided that you can prove to EA that you have relevant work experience in that field. In writing my CDR, I used my MSc thesis and the other two from the work I did in the profession I nominated. Use professional Engineer as @Bellong mentioned.

Good luck!

Thank you so much Humanshado...you have really taken out time to explain the steps. I truly appreciate your help.

As adviced, I will use the Fast Track method. Honestly, it wasn't even an option till I read your comments.

To write my CDR, I will use my MSc dissertation as one example and the other two will be based on projects I have worked on that relate to the profession I nominated.

Thanks again!

bellong:


Professional Engineer...

Great! Thanks a lot Bellong

bellong:
Jer29v11,

1. Yes

2. Apply for the industrial engineer occupation since you said it is what you have been doing. Leave the classification for EA to do.

Thanks For clarifying this Bellong. On your response to point (2), how then will unknown what summary statement I should download and fill out? Apologies if it seems I am going round in circles.

bellong:
^^^^ Assess your qualifications and work experience.

Thanks for the prompt response Bellong...much appreciated! Just to be sure- you mean I should go for the CDR+Relevant skilled employment assessment $1030($AUD), right?

Lastly, I am aware that I must download and complete an appropriate summary statement. How would I know whether I should be applying for an assessment as a Professional Engr., Engineering Technologist or Engineering Associate?

Thanks in anticipation of your response.

humanshado:
Assessment of educational qualification with Engineers Australia is mandatory.

Assessment of relevant work experience is optional.

I will need further clarity on how to attain maximum points. I have a BSc in Engineering from Nigeria (with no work experience) and an MSc in Environmental Mgt from the UK (with 5 years work experience in Process Safety/oil & gas). Please note that I will be applying for an Independent Points Tested Visa (189). As a preference, I want to nominate ANZSCO 233511 (Industrial Engineer) from the Skilled Occupation List because I have accrued substantial work experience in this field.

So, to get maximum points, do you advice I also get an assessment (via EA) for my relevant work experience? Or what is my best option?

humanshado:
Assessment of educational qualification with Engineers Australia is mandatory.

Assessment of relevant work experience is optional.

Thanks for your response.

hi, can anyone please help with my enquiry? Does the Engineering Assessment (EA) evaluate qualification and work experience, or just one of the two? I have read through the thread but still can't get my head around it. Thanks.

walexlo78:
Hi, you can explore EOR i.e a request for remark if your result is still within the timeframe.

Thanks Walexlo78. My result is no longer within the remark time frame.

Preparatory materials I used for the IELTS exam were all web-based. They include (1) IELTS Buddy (2) Liz IELTS (3) The British Council online materials.
All the best!

Good morning All. I intend retaking my IELTS exam because my last score (8.5/8.5/8.5/6.5) dropped my CRS score by approximately 60 marks my question is;
(1) Since my WES evaluation is ready, can I create my EE profile with my current IELTS score and then update my profile once I retake my IELTS?

Thank you so much Adiahabasi. I really truly appreciate this.

Thanks Ekpekus. I had suspected te provisional nomination will be the next route to get a higher CRS. Can you she's more light on this? How do I go about it? Apologies if I am taking the thread back, but it's because I am new to the process. Cheers.

Thanks to everyone who took out time to reply to my enquiry. Much appreciated. I got my IELTS results about 8 weeks ago, so I have now missed the 6 weeks stipulates time to request a remark. I will have to retake the test again in the coming month, sadly. Are there any suggestions to how I can further boost my CRS score? I read about the possibilities of getting provisional nomination. Can anyone please share any information on that. Thanks.

Hello all, I'm new to this thread and I must admit I have found a lot of the info very useful. Thank you.

I am also new to the Canada Immigration Process and I have quite a number of questions. I am waiting for my WES evaluation and in the meantime, I calculated my CRS score using an online tool. To my surprise it came back with a total of 393. I strongly believe I haven't input all the details required and probably missed a chunk of my points. Can anyone help with a rough estimate of my CRS score? Below is a summary of my details;

IELTS Results; S-8.5, R-8.5, L-8.5, W-6.5. Total Band Score = 8
Highest Degree qualification - MSc.
5 years work experience in Engineering/oil & gas
No family or relatives in Canada
Single
Age 34
No Canadian job offer (yet)

Please let me know if you require any other information to help with my inquiry. Thanks