Hismasterpiece:


Simple.

There is a God

He created man for fellowship

Man turned away from God and became evil and therefore became destined for hell

God Loves man and wants to save him

God makes a way for man to be saved from hell by sending His Son Jesus.

Now all men can have fellowship with God through His Son Jesus.

Let me ask you a question on your "Truth is absolute" concept.

If Lord Reed is very good to me and very terrible to you, would I be wrong to say that he is a good person and would you be right to say he is a bad person?
Who is right and who is wrong here?

NB: wrong quote initially.

Kobojunkie:
Which Bible God only heals spiritual issues?

Are you certain you and I read from the same scriptures or at least Gospels?

Should I add /s before you see that it is sarcasm?

Now read it again with that in mind.

Kobojunkie:
When you say physically blinded, you mean they poked his eyes out or something?

Yes, and we both know the bible God only heals spiritual issues. Omnipotent God, heals only spiritual affliction. Physical afflictions are too hard for him.

Op is finally gone crazy.

elated177:


What?





2 Kings 17:14 But they would not listen and were as stiff-necked as their ancestors, who did not trust in YHVH their God. 15 They rejected his decrees and the covenant he had made with their ancestors and the statutes he had warned them to keep. They followed worthless idols and themselves became worthless. They imitated the nations around them although YHVH had ordered them, “Do not do as they do.”16 They forsook all the commands of YHVH their God and made for themselves two idols cast in the shape of calves, and an Asherah pole. They bowed down to all the starry hosts, and they worshiped Baal. 17 They sacrificed their sons and daughters in the fire. They practiced divination and sought omens and sold themselves to do evil in the eyes of the Lord, arousing his anger.


What is a person who isn't a busybody doing on a thread not meant for him? Do with your body however you please. The disgusting and abominable acts of homosexuality and anal sex are not for the saints, servants and prophets of YHVH Almighty.

I am here responding to a public thread on a public forum. So a question for you...What is your business opening this thread? Who are you responding to? Who offended you?

vaxx:
His question is founded on empherical evidence, we need to tackle the foundation of empherical itself before we begin to tackle the evidence of religious beliefs, if he is so stone and not ready to scrutinized such foundation , then I count him a wannabe . He doesn't have a theory to apply . Awam fuo

So you enlighten us then...let's see. Tackle the foundation of "empirical" so we learn.

vaxx:
neither am I a garulous individual, once you are grounded with knowledge. I will count you a serious atheist, back in those years , we used to have smart athiest on nairaland, people like budatum, agent of allah etc. Not this type of wannabe .

I just told you that even in the body of science that uses empherical model as a standard of evidence which is axioms is simply assumed not testable , it is in this foundation, science was birth . It is called axioms .

You think he is a wanna be? His question is very valid and his points are very grounded. You didnt say anything worthy of note but you want to call someone a wanna be. See these people ooo. Ei asem ooo.

Workch:
can't you see how I avoided him like a plague?

For my own peace of mind..I will continue to do so.

elated177:


Ehehehehe! Ihe efu!

You want to try it with your girlfriend?
Who will be penetrating the other?

The one with the stick ofcourse...are you bleeding? Yes! Let it coarse through your veins....feel the pain. Busy body, pained sad little person.

Dtruthspeaker:


Ah, I must dey here!

Nature and Life and Natural Living, In This World!

Things Only come to existence because, Someone, created them!

No thing, can bring itself from non-existence into existence. It is Impossible, in this world.

Oya, validly counter, if you can!

Let's go there!

Except your God ofcourse...only he can come out of nothing. What a joke. Also stop misinterpreting the theory of evolution...do you even know the theory?

reigncalif1:
Pls don't argue with that guy
He isn't honest

A lesson learnt too late my brother. Extremely dishonest fellow

elated177:


Yeah! I understand. You feel strange seeing your abominable acts described aptly.

Hahahhaha, I am sure that if I was gay, I would enjoy everything I do without a care of how you or other busy bodies might feel about it. I hear anal is great...might be trying that soon with my girlfriend....I hope you writh in pain having read that. Be sad, cry more and deny your ever throbbing homosexuality.

Dtruthspeaker:


Do you think people are as unreasonable and stupid as you are?

Truth, Rules.

Which is why since 2019 till today, no one can reasonably and validly counter my Answers. So, go hang in your cave.

Nobody can "reasonably" counter your Answers? You actually think you follow a consistent train of thought? You can't even formulate a proper method of investigation, even as a joke, if you were asked to copy it from a book. You move the goal post so much you, Its amazing how you get people to debate with you. That is the true miracle. You are out of your depths "Degoalpostmover".

Dtruthspeaker:


That is how evidence indeed works. What you guys do not know is that there are many different types and classes of evidence which appear in different ways.

That is what we lawyers know and how we are able to prove the Truth of a matter or disprove a Lie.

Nigeria which way...hmmmm

Dtruthspeaker:


And I believe that a certain theist may reply that obviously, presuming that you were not lying, God, in your language is called "Unicorn", therefore, you already prove and have acknowledged His Existence!

So there is nothing to prove.

Exactly as seeing the Camry and someone says Mr. Toyoda is the god of Toyota and a jos man says, "No, it's 'duck yansh’

So it clearly means you too have seen what we see and therefore YOU HAVE SEEN THE PROOF ONLY THAT YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT NAME TO DESCRIBE THE EVIDENCE YOU HAVE SEEN exactly as "back" and "rear" mean the same thing.

Therefore, you are no longer an opponent but one of our witnesses.

And people take this guy serious? Simply amazing....no body can be this high.

Ken4Christ:


The greatest evidence is in you and that is your conscience. You are just suppressing just to maintain your preconceived opinions.

People must go to hell. In fact, over 95% of the world population will land in hell. Many are called, but few are chosen. If you want to continue on the wide road that leads to destruction, it's your choice.

Okay let me indulge you...I agree that it is indeed God's doing. But which one?

What shows it is not ogun? Or my personal god, dondiri? Can you prove that it is Yahweh/ Jesus?

Nuttella:
I love praying in tongues, I don't just pray in tongues, while praying in tongues, I sing in tongues, oh how I love to worship my father in heaven. I can pray in normal English or Igbo language for 5mins and be short of words because of my human limitations but when praying in tongues, I can pray for 5 hours tirelessly because the holyspirit has taken over and no more human limitations, I speak mysteries, I see visions when praying in tongues too. Every born again Christian should pray in tongues.

As funny as this post is, This is the reality. When people claim to pray like 5 hours non stop, it is because they are suffering from neologism. Constant repeatition of words for 5 hours should be the easiest thing to do. Anyone can do it easy. It is when you have to actually build up your conversation skills, that is where you are found wanting after 5 minutes. Because what else can you tell your God after telling him everything on a subject (thanks, forgiveness, protect our loved ones etc)? Indulge in word salad? Maybe.

elated177:
El Elohe Yahshrael!


Yap!

He is the lord of flies. Have you ever seen how flies gather over excreta? Why will anyone even desire to put his penis into the anus? Chai. More disgusting is a human being, I mean a human being, putting using his tongue to clean the anus. Ewo o! Chei.


El Elohe Yahshrael! Hallelu YAH!

Again? This is getting depressing.

Dtruthspeaker:


See, the way you are speaking as if you people intended to stay virgins until you find your female.

From the first day you heard about sex and saw it and felt it, you already planned on eating it, even when you already know you should not.

Most especially as God had already put a very obvious blockade called "Pregnancy", which made you all fear and run away at first

so you are not in a position to question God and His purposes for it, at all.

Secondly, aside the blockade of Pregnancy He even went far to makes sure that your desire to sex is not met.

Which is, in the day you want it, there would be no woman to fulfill it. And in the day there is woman, you really did not want it. And in the day that boy + woman meet, interruptions/lack of venue or any thing spoils it.

So, boys/men have gotten the Help from God they needed, but because they did not want to see God's Help and desired that they must have it at all Costs, not even caring that death too is one of the several foreseeable cost, you people joyfully and stupidly plunged in.

Be that as it may, some of us did see the Hand of God Move and Followed Him and learnt why it is need full and very very good to Obey All He Says till today, we rejoice in the salvation of The Lord, and are blessed according to how it was Written eg "great wives, prospering in all things, easy birth of children exactly as the Israelite women in Egypt during the birth of Moses, all round joy and happiness, peace and love etc.

I indeed have everything as it is Written in Psalm 128.

But as I always say (kimco here again), you all have a right to choose either good or evil. I do not compell any one to follow God.

Each person shall get, what he chose!

Thank you for displaying everything you are for all to see. I dont know why I try. You are a dishonest fellow. Too bad.

Piptocoin:


I have provided an answer to this question in my last reply to LordReed.

You did no such thing.

elated177:


What is your problem? What names are you talking about? Isn't any male who has sexual relationship with another male a faggòt?

Keyboard warrior? Give me your Facebook address and I will call you a faggòt there. Or better still, come and identify yourself as a homosexual and see if I will not call you a faggòt to your face.

Inu kwa!

And a black man is indeed a niggurrrrr. Im glad u are on the same page as the slave masters...degratory words are okay if the correctly id the group.

Also you will call me gay on fb? Lol uou are not helping your case. Also you wont call me gay to my face. You are just being a keyboard warrior

Piptocoin:


the dead are nothing but shells...empty of occupants. the real you is not a physical body with blood vessels. this is just a tent that is fated to be abandoned at some time in the future. we only get to experience this after death but many medical doctors are now of the opinion that consciousness continues beyond death having being witnesses to patients who have had near-death-experiences. some of this patients, while the operation was ongoing, could narrate accurately what transpired during the operation and said they saw their "bodies" lying there...to many it felt like they were looking at another person but they couldn't deny the fact that their consciousness and the physical form are but one person....

what I am trying to say is that empirical evidence is severely limited in determining what is real or true.

Can you provide empirical or metaphysical evidence for this claim? And your methodology for how you came by such conclusion.

MrBrownJay1:


go tell that to your bastard gay father...

Would you look at this...too bad

elated177:



How so?

Maybe you should go out and start calling people who disagree with you on a topic names and see how they react. Don't be a keynoard warrior my friend. Be nice. It won't kill you.

Dtruthspeaker:


I clearly said Christ-likes die sweetly and pleasantly as different from you people. But you are stuck on physical pain, whereas the topic is about death. So you are O.Y.O

You are full of sh1.T, seriously...Dying is a physical thing, and if you don't know this much, you are not worth it. Christ-like my foot...and who is determining these christ-like behaviours? You? Laughable. Also the topic is about DYING, not DEATH. I knew you were not following.

Dtruthspeaker:


Common sense should have told you that demanding for evidence is not a rebuttal. Maybe, you have not finished school, so learn this.

I was being sarcastic, or maybe I should have put the words in quotes so you get me ...you provided no valid argument....that was my point.

Dtruthspeaker:


This is what you should have asked, if you were interested in finding out.

Method: Find a Christ-like (Not church goer but a Like- Christ). Watch them thoroughly. Make yourself present when they are dying and if you can see them immediately after they die. AND WATCH THEM ALL THE WAY. (NOTE YOUR OBSERVATIONS)

Now, go to your ordinary everyday folk, pick any one and repeat the process on them. (NOTE YOUR OBSERVATIONS).

Now go to a wicked person, repeat the process (NOTE YOUR OBSERVATIONS)

YOU CAN REPEAT THE PROCESS ON THESE 3 GROUPS AGAIN AND AGAIN FOR PROPER VERIFICATION OF EMPLOYMENT DATA USING OTHER PERSONS, THANK GOD, 5GE THE FORMER TARGETS ARE DEAD SO, YOU WOULD HAVE FRESH TARGETS TO REPEAT THE PROCESS.

After, you have truly done this, you can come back and give TRUTH FULL REPORTS of your findings.

And then you can challenge me.

So, you have can happily run away now as you now have a valid mission which you can use to prove me Wrong!

You really are full of sh.1.T .....so What... when I have followed this silly "method" and the "christ-like" person doesn't die smoothly....(:rolls eyes: seriously why am I even engaging you sef) you will tell me he or she was not christ-like. Okay let me waste my time and ask you....How do you falsify this experiment? How will I be able to tell that indeed It is the spirirtual fortification of Christ that is indeed allowing your "christ-like" subjects die happily without their bodies giving the normal reaction to pain? What happens if the wicked person also smiles through his death? Will that falsify your experiment? Is this repeatable accross multiple subjects with similar results? What specifications do you require to term someone "christ-like"? Even if I had the world and time....I won't waste my time because this is just amazingly stoooooopid. Seriously...this is just sad. I had time for a long debate but this is not honest

NB: You actually believe that dying is a spiritual thing (without proof, surprise surprise) and you are here trying to school me on silly things like "rebuttal". Arrogant and deflective. You are not an honest person....let's end it here. This is not going anywhere.

elated177:


Faafaaafaaafaaaaggot! You exhibit all the vileness associated with faggòts.

MrBrownJay1, abstain from the abominable act of faggotry. It is against nature.

Childish. And I am being nice.

elated177:



So you can't see the proof all around you?

Point them out to me my lord. I am so blind to these things.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is the essence of rapture. You stand on one side, I stand on the other.

As I said, you are free to follow the wide and popular and I have respected your choice. I choose the not so popular Way.

So there is no need for further argument.

Here he goes again. Round and round making no sense

Dtruthspeaker:



You are just repeating your what you said before which I have answered and you have no rebuttal as your repetition has proven, so no case.

I am repeating because you have not answered anything. Here we are speaking of physical pain and your answer is spiritual soothing and empowerment. I can prove physical pain. I can proof that the physical body will react to the fact that it is about to be harmed even if you consciously make your self belief that you are ready for any pain. You cannot provide any evidence to yours. If you can, I'm waiting.

Dtruthspeaker:



If they were not grounded, you would have supplied a rebuttal. But you do not have any! Therefore case closed.

My rebuttal is....provide proof. Provide your spiritual proof.

Dtruthspeaker:



As if you want to.

We all can see that you are shocked that there is difference.

The difference I have already stated that you can go and check out for yourself to see if what I said is True.

But rather you choose to be on repeat mode, now claiming "you cannot do anything" whereas, it is obvious you do not want to, as is your right, which I have respected, so the argument is ended already.

I have asked you for proof and you say I should go and check for myself? Okay. Outline your methodology, your hypothesis and make sure that it is repeatable for more than a single person. I will play your game. I have time

Dtruthspeaker:


you obviously do not know that argument is the presentation of evidence. And I have given you even physically verifiable evidence and yet, you have not moved. There is nothing more that any reasonable person as I can do.

Physical verifiable evidence being what? That you saw someone die with a smile on their face? That is your physical evidence? Seriously? Does that "evidence" include the spiritual fortification?

Dtruthspeaker:



I mostly communicate without quoting the Bible, but this is one of the cases "of the Bible said it, and it is True"!

So Bible must be in it, else a person will be guilty of stealing and claiming another person's work without giving due honour to the Maker.

No you don't, You always quote the bible somehow or atleast paraphrase it, even when it uncalled for. This is not my first time with you. It is always a recurring theme with you. Its good for a strict biblical conversation, but terrible for anything else. Please stop.

Dtruthspeaker:


Obviously, the Bible is salt to your earth worm; and sun to vampires.

No it is not a lick on my boot. Its simply not a good source for biology. Spiritual concepts have no need in biology. That is why I urge you to use a better source than the bible and "bro trust me"

Dtruthspeaker:


I have just presented the product of my reasoning process, and you have entered into "limp Repeat Mode". Clearly, my reasoning has damaged your reasoning processing unit. (RPU)

The arrogance is not surprising to me. I have seen you do it a million times. You still have to provide evidence grounded in reality. Spiritual evidence and "I know somebody who knows somebody..." Is not going to cut it for me. If that worries you, well...welcome to the scientific method, where physical evidence is required for physical claims.

Dtruthspeaker:


So, as you can see, it is you who can not accept good and better reasoning because you accustomed to following the crowd and popular.

Once more, physical evidence require physical proof. Your spiritual "evidence" does not cut it here. So respond when you have some physical proof. I have your time.

Dtruthspeaker:


That is what I told happens ONLY TO PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE GOD.

I told you that I HAVE SEEN WITH MY EYES, people were truly God Lovers and how they died.

AND THAT THEY DIED SMILING WITH JOY!

AND EVEN THEIR DEAD BODIES FROZE WITH THE SMILE AND JOY ON THEIR FACES.

I HAVE ALSO SEEN HOW WICKED PEOPLE DIE AND HOW THEY DIED WITH A FROWN AND STRUGGLE. THEIR FACES FROZEN EXACTLY LIKE THAT.

So now I walk in the way that I saw my God Loving people walked, I do now see why they were not bothered by death.

Which is why I am happy to report I do not fear it.

But as I have said, you have a right to follow the more popular and common way of Crashing, i choose to follow the unpopular and almost unseen Way of Life and living forever as the Bible hath said

"for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW THERE BE THAT FIND IT" Matthew 7:13-14

How do I continue to argue with people like this. Smiling through pain and suffering is a new concept to you? You think the of dying is only for those who don't believe in your religious doctrine? Your statements are not grounded, your points are not grounded. I cannot do anything with this post, Mr. Man.

Can you not provide better arguments? Quoting the bible here won't do you a lot of good because the point we are making does not require bible quotations. Can you not communicate without quoting the bible like a human? Can you not reason for yourself? Formulate principles, even if inspired by God, without quoting the bible. You are only parroting the book. If I needed you to read the bible to me I wouldnt be here.

elated177:



Look around you.

So you have no proof?

Jmichael1:


u shud hv replaced doubting thomus in the bible bcus u doubt every tin....

And that is a bad thing? What sort of world are we living in that being skeptical for lack of evidence is something to frown upon?

Eriokanmi:
Attend any church event or a revival and see God move through His power. Stop judging on NL. You're only making jest of yourself by doing so. God is real, so is His power. I'm a living witness

The irony in this post is through the roof